Publishers note - This is book 2 of the Severed Press edition of the White Flag of the Dead Series. If you have the original self published White Flag please wait until book 3. TAKING IT BOOK TWO OF THE WHITE FLAG OF THE DEAD ZOMBIE SERIES Around every corner, they are waiting. In every dark alley, they are lurking. Behind every door, they are hiding. For each survivor of the Upheaval, every day brings the same grim the dead are coming. For every community that managed to survive, for every band that came together, questions nag their minds. Are they alone? Are they the last ones left? Does humanity die with them? As the dead roam the abandoned highways and walk among the ruins of the living, one group will make a stand to halt the tide and take it back.
Well I am very concerned about the grim future many authors paint of humanity should it be largely decimated by a zombie plague. Apparently the human survivors will not only be fighting the undead, but we will also be struggling to survive in a world overrun by power hungry sick and depraved sexual predators. It also feels like only Americans in the US will survive because these books imply that they all have at least 10 guns in their houses ready for these kinds of society ending events. I have no idea if this is true or not. All I can say is that I have a glue gun. I'm zombie fodder, people. Zombie fodder.
On to book 3 in this series as it has improved a little *whispers* but mostly I'm trying to get to double figures in my zombie-a-thon.
Losses and reunions with friends and loved ones abound
In Taking it Back (White Flag of the Dead, #2), Zombies continue to be numerous, and as unrelenting in their single-minded quest for "fresh meat."
Depraved derelict humans are running rampant, and evil is in overdrive for the infinite numbers of psychopaths left to plague the world. . . having no worries about accountability and punishment for their vile behavior. . . . they finally get to live life on their terms. Disturbing to think about and hear described. Yet, sadly, this should not be unexpected in an apocalyptic world.
The main protagonist, John, made a statement, (giving me pause for thought) wondering if there are really that many (of us) in the human race (such as those he has seen and experienced since the outbreak began) who are actually only that bare, thin thread away from turning into vicious predators, and if, indeed, there are that many of us, whose only concern is for personal self-gratification no matter the cost to others, then the zombies are far from the biggest concern and fear humans should have. Excellent storyline from author, Joseph Talluto. Impressed with how much excellent character development there has been, and this is only the end of the second book.
Narrator, Graham Halstead, is superlative! Wonderful female voices, which are as well done as the males, and that is no easy feat. Thanks.
Seriously, how much would it cost to hire a poor starving undergraduate English major to edit these books? The errors are so obvious - it is maddening!! And again with the repetitive words/phrasing...I beg of you - buy a thesaurus, brave the daunting world of polysyllabic communication! As an author, words are your building blocks; thus, a varied assortment/plentiful supply should always be at hand. Too abstract? Well, in terms you can relate to, it's like stocking up on the many different types of ammo needed for your possibly world-saving/probably illegal assemblage of weaponry.
That being said, even the best editing is unlikely to save this installment from lost-cause status. The cartoonish (and apparently still superhuman) protagonist John "Rambo" Talon and his supporting cast of one dimensional characters leave the reader emotionally disengaged - there isn't one character compelling enough to actually care about. At times, I found myself cheering on the zombies, begging them for salvation from another cringe-worthy cliche word/thought/action from John Talon. Speaking of cringe-worthy, here's an interesting side item for the ladies - apparently women have their choice of 3 exciting roles in the post-zombie apocalypse world: 1) babysitter for Jake, 2) adoring, obedient girlfriend of John/John's crew (must never participate in action sequences, should specialize in hand-wringing and fretful sobbing for her manly-man), or 3) rape victim of various roving evil gangs who has either been tortured/murdered or remains locked in a cage as their sex slave. Now I'm not exactly hypersensitive or a raging feminist, but are you f***ing kidding me? Anyone who has successfully worked through their psychosexual baggage, please stand up...not so fast, Joseph Talluto.
This could have been an interesting story; there were a few creative ideas, so I'm giving the book an overly-generous 2 (more like 1.5) stars. Unfortunately, lack of character development coupled with increasingly dull zombie skirmishes do little in the way of realizing any of the book's potential. The plot is downright ridiculous at times, and the decisions made by John are inconsistent and unbelievable. Need examples (or post-reading commiseration)? See below for just a few (with obvious spoiler alert).
This is more of a 2.5 but I'll leave it at a 3. The story flows a bit more easily in this book but the character of John grated heavily on my nerves. He's even more Rambo than the first book, if you can believe it.
My 3 issues with this novel were 1) Grammar - there seemed to be fewer punctuation and misspelling problems but the lack paragraph indentation was annoying. Also, the author uses the phrase "idly wondered" twice in two pages and again about 20 pages later. Not a super big deal but it shouldn't happen in a well-edited book.
2) Sexism {SPOILER} - Sarah has been relegated to being the worried girlfriend while John roams about zombie bashing and rescuing survivors. Near the end of the novel, John and his pal, Charlie, TELL their girlfriends they're getting married. They don't ask. That was the end of my tolerance for this character and for the series in general.
3) Politics - {SPOILER} John discovers that the US govt planned the zombie protection areas not to save civilians but to experiment on them. PUH-LEASE. Big government is the bad guy here and it's utterly ridiculous.
However, the story is compelling and as in the first novel, the action is worth reading. This could be a decent series if an editor were able to fix the grammatical mistakes and encourage the author to let go of his right wing conspiracy theories and let John be an actual human being instead of Mr. Can-Do-No-Wrong.
After the telling not asking marriage thing, though, I'll be skipping the next installment.
This entire review has been hidden because of spoilers.
Got to give this 3.5 stars. Dialogue and pacing has improved from the first book. No spoilers so can’t say my concern of what is in the next book but I will be reading it
As I said in my review of the first book in this series White Flag of The Dead I have great respect from someone self-publishing, but as with that one, if not more so, this was crying out for an editor. Better yet, an actual plot.
There are quite a few things that happen in this book, and things do move along, but by the time you've finished, there is no sense that the plot of the series has actually moved along. Sure the lead characters, their women and children are all in a new place, but that's about it.
In the meantime, what you get is something like an old time Western only with zombies with our never wrong hero, visiting various communities, and/or finding survivors who need to be rescued - always in the nick of time - before he wonders off to do the same thing again, for somebody else.
Time and time again, he comes across a situation that is black and white, giving him the chance to chose between right and wrong - and he's NEVER wrong - with the result being that a lot of zombies and / or several humans will die.
Due to this, characters appear, then disappear all the time with no time to become people to be related too and that's doubly so for the female characters, even those who would otherwise be in the lead roles. All they tend to do is look after the hero's toddler son, and worry about the hero returning, which of course he always does, before almost immediately leaving again for another pointless journey. Fact is we probably know more about the guns being used than the women.
That said the set pieces when they happen are done well. The big zombie battles are exciting, although the encounters with other humans, both good and bad, less so.
I am still going to continue with the series as it is said to get better. Here's hoping.
I have read book 1 & 2 and thought they were entertaining as there was never a dull moment. The pace was fast and there was nonstop action. However, I can’t get past the fact that the main character John use to be a desk jockey in his prior life and is now a bad ass killing machine who knows how to do EVERYTHING. Furthermore, what kind of dad leaves his baby for 2 days – 2 months to go exploring and clear out zombies? Last but not least, John made a series of questionable / ridiculous decisions.
Book 2 ended on a positive note and I might end there. I'm not sure if I want to continue the series. Anyone have any thoughts on book 3?
I really like zombie books that take place in the beginning of the disaster, the frantic race to avoid getting bitten or sick or trapped, the heart racing terror when they find out that it's actually happening etc.
I love that adrenaline rush I get from it (I am after all, an adrenaline junkie in just about all ways) so much so that I look past a lot of stinky, stinky bullshit.
However, this is the second book in this series and the sexist shit only gets worse, with Sarah, who was introduced as badass, now dutifully waiting her man's return while taking care of children and cleaning and organising....
I think this is the last book I'll read of this author.
John's group have made contact with survivors at Coal City but they needs some help so John decides to lead a group on a river trip to link up with them. On the way is a military run camp where survivors were being sent for safety and they want to check out what happened there, the check the other small towns near Coal City for survivors. What they find on this trip is going to put them in danger at every turn.
I don't want to go into too much detail about the plot of the book but there is certainly some tension and a lot of zombie fighting, which means that the pace rarely slows down. I do like that there is a high focus on the actual zombies. His relationships with Sarah and Jake do take a back seat to that which is good. The introduction of exploring the camps is new and I don't think we've seen the last of that plot thread.
In this book John is a bit more annoying. He's very much starting to get used to leaving the women to look after the kids while the men do the hunting. Sarah was one of the best with a gun but now she seems to be just waving him off and playing stepmom. We hardly see her involved in any of the action which is a shame. Also noticing that the women are the ones making mistakes that lead to their capture or death by zombie. Hope that is not an emerging pattern as the series goes on. John is also determined to go on a few solo trips of his own, one of which makes no blood sense and is more like a suicide run.
John is also the only one now who seems to have any ideas and plans, the only one with solutions to problems or who has the ability to plan. He's the only one who sees danger and saves the day while everyone else just falls in with whatever he says. Anyone who questions him is made to feel foolish or is treated as something he 'doesn't have time for'. There may be a council but John has emergency veto-and that's of little use when he's never around to be called on by the community. He's too busy on his humanity saving adventures.
SPOILERS FOR TWO PARAGRAPHS I swear I don't know what's wrong with John. He insists on planning and leading every mission, running everything, planning everything for everyone, doing all the thinking, saying it's what he does but now suddenly he's deciding he's not really wanting to be leader of an expanding community and wants to go his own way. He's now deciding that he wants to move somewhere quieter, start over again and leave these groups behind as they don't need him and he doesn't want the responsibility. Uh John, nobody was forcing you to do everything-you could've delegated you know!
His dream has happened...he's set up mass areas of zombie free land for hundreds, thousands of survivors to live, rescued lots of people, his people are setting up running water etc, got a perfect safe environment for his young son to live in and now he wants to move away to a state park with zombies and wild animals. Why risk that, especially when he's just rescued his brother from the place he plans to move his new family to? Now he has to scavenge supplies and start the work all over again. Seems crazy to me.
Taking it Back, is the 2nd book in Joseph Talluto’s White Flag of the Dead series. The White Flag of the Dead series is like The Walking Dead, if The Walking Dead didn’t abide by the rules of human capabilities. Talluto does mention some problems, like fatigue and strength, but at times when it seems like all is lost, the main characters are miraculously able to fight off hundreds of enemies, or do other things that realistically wouldn’t be possible. The recurrent trope with most zombie books, shows, games, etc. (especially those that are in a series), is that after a while, the threat of zombies slowly becomes less apparent, while the threat of other people rises. While Talluto reinforces the idea that one of the most dangerous threats that you face in the zombie apocalypse is other humans, he doesn’t completely follow that trope. John, Sarah, Charlie, and the rest of the group encounter several dangerous people throughout the novel, but the threat of the undead is still constantly appearing, and proving to be an ever changing problem that can’t be solved simply. While Talluto doesn’t follow that trope, this series doesn’t really do anything different or special to break itself away from any other generic zombie story. Anything that’s interesting can be seen in previous zombie entertainment. The characters aren’t dynamic or relatable, and most of the new characters that are introduced are flat. Also, there really isn’t a plot to follow. Talluto just throws in a new problem to drive the plot along at random times. The main issue throughout the entire novel is the grammar & spelling. An editor would have been very helpful with this novel. While this book does have a lot of issues & problems, there are some parts that are entertaining. Most have been done before, but they were still enjoyable. Overall it was a mediocre read, but there are parts of it that were very good.
Joseph Talluto does another admirable job in Taking It Back, the second book in his White Flag of the Dead series.
The story of John Talon and his drive to better the world after a zombie apocalypse continues.
The character development slows down a bit, but the action maintains its intensity. The whole series is much more optimistic than a lot of Z novels out there. But, if you don't want ladies waiting in the wings to be saved by their strong, brave, and parochial men, then this series might not be the one for you. I couldn't tell if it was a component of John Talon's character, or if it was an expression of Talluto's views. Either way, it was a little off-putting at times.
It wasn't enough to put me off my feed, but it was noticeable enough that I felt the need to mention it.
A good yarn if you like this type of material. Fast-paced full of action and gore. The only thing I did not like is the main character John acts like he has so much indignation concerning the way the world and people are acting in it and gets very angry but does nothing. I am reading this book for the second time and I still wonder why the reviews are not as high as they should be. Maybe it’s because the MC walks softly but carries a little stick. Don’t believe me read what happens to one of his charges in the first book. I am re-reading the series now to give it the reviews I think it deserves, since reviews are very important to the authors. The book and series is worth reading but you wanna punch the MC in the face because of some of his decisions.
Very well written and a good continuation of the first book. Talluto gets to the nitty gritty of the survival of the zombie apocalypse. From the dangers of using a gun (sound brings more zombies) to a series of add hock weapons to use this series really talks about how to recreate a society and fight back against the zombie hordes. The main character, John, is likeable and even thought he has an awful job to do you root for him to come out on top. John won't accept a life of scrapping by reacting to the zombie threat. He wants a world where his son will thrive. He wants to take back his town, and his town is the USA. The survivors he rescues are told how it is: Find your use in this community and work hard to be a part of it. There is teaser for the next book, and now I have to read it too!
This White Flag of the Dead series is really not waiting around... and that's a good thing. It really frustrates me when stories drag their feet, but luckily there's no chance of that happening here.
If you liked the first of these books, then you'll like this one. It's written very much in the same vein as the book that preceded it, and it moves the story on nicely.
The pros and cons are much the same as the book before as well... to be honest, I might as well just say that if you enjoyed the last book then read this. It's not a carbon copy, but it is enough like the other book in tone and progression that you won't be disappointed.
I gotta say, I love zombie stuff. I'm a bit obsessed. That's probably the biggest reason why I enjoyed this book so much. He's very descriptive with all the final information, which isn't interesting to me, and the characters and their extreme segregation into man/woman roles caused a bit of eye rolling, but I still enjoyed the plot lines and general flow of the book. I'm definitely taking notes for the day the world ends!
This is a great book, needed a tad more editing, but a good book, likeable characters and many you love or hate right off the bat based on how well he wrote their parts.
WARNING>>>> Book 1 and 2 are wonderful and book three and onward SUCK worse than any apocalyptic book i have read in a long time. I don't know what happened to the writer but its like he completely changed the characters, made the women idiots made the leading man into a moron and changed the entire story line. DON'T make the mistake I did and buy the whole set only the first two are worth reading!!
Tall, handsome, charismatic, macho, fatherly, sharpshooting, and wisecracking, John Talon is the James Bond of Zombieland and the White Flag of the Dead series is the ultimate post-apocalyptic male power fantasy.
Three and a half stars ⭐️ because I can’t decide between three or four…😁 This is a guilty pleasure even with the flaws in the writing and plot. Audiobook Overall. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ Performance ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ Story ⭐️⭐️⭐️
I can't get enough! The characters are well-written, the story pulls you in. It's not predictable at all. I can't wait to read the next book in the series.