The Secret Lives of Saints paints a troubling portrait of an extreme religious sect. These zealous believers impose severe and often violent restrictions on women, deprive children of education and opt instead to school them in the tenets of their faith, defy the law and move freely and secretly over international borders. They punish dissent with violence and even death. No, this sect is not the Taliban, but North America's fundamentalist Mormons.Daphne Bramham explores the history and ideas of this surprisingly resilient and insular society, asking the questions that surround its continued existence and telling the stories of the men and women whose lives are so entwined with it—both the leaders and the victims.
Daphne Bramham has been a columnist at the Vancouver Sun since 2000 and has won numerous awards for her writing, including a National Newspaper Award. She was named Commentator of the Year by the Jack Webster Foundation in 2005 and was honoured by the non-profit group Beyond Borders for a series of columns on the polygamous community of Bountiful, B.C.
A fascinating and disturbing look at how a polygamous sect was allowed to establish a strong foothold in British Columbia and how powerless we seem to be in trying to combat it. What I learned the most from this book is how much of a blind eye that governments will turn when it comes to dealing with a local group claiming religious freedom and protection under our Charter of Rights of Freedom and yet, can perpetuate horrific abuse against women and children alike. As the author points out, why can we speak up on behalf of citizens in Afghanistan against the Taliban but we remain silent for our citizens against the fundamentalist Mormons?
This book took me forever to finish, partly due to life in general, and partly due to the fact that it was So. Dry. The book reads like an academic paper, and in parts, a legal transcript. The information and interviews were extensively well-researched, and if someone was looking for a primer that covers all of North American polygamist history, this book would be great. For someone who is looking for a riveting and interesting read about polygamous culture, this is one to pass on, as there are numerous other books that do a much better job in being readable than this one. Overall, Daphne Bramham's work is a fantastic reference book, but it is difficult to get through all 470+ pages (though the last fifty pages or so are citations/notes/acknowledgments). 4 stars for research, 1.5 stars for enjoyability.
I was very disappointed in this book. I've read alot about the FLDS and was hoping to learn more about the Canadian branch but found this book very convoluted, repetitive, and outdated. I need to investigate what has happened since its writing, although I fear not much has changed. I really didn't learn anything new and felt frustrated trying to keep the various people and groups straight. There are definitely better books out there, if you're interested in learning about this cult.
“Saints” in the title refers to the religion, “Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints” (LDS), or more specifically, fundamentalist LDS (FLDS) – that is, the polygamous branch of the LDS/Mormons. This book includes info from various, mostly former, FLDS – that is, it includes some memoir-type info with regard to some people (again, mostly those who have left), but the second part talks about the law, courts, trials, and even that some governments look the other way (British Columbia in Canada seems the worst for that).
This book does focus more on the Canadian FLDS (and leader/prophet Winston Blackmore) than any other I’ve read, so that was interesting to me. I’m in Calgary, Alberta, and though I knew about Bountiful, BC (actually called Lister, which I didn’t know), I did not know that there is a small population of FLDS in Alberta, as well, mostly in/around Cardston. The FLDS is so intertwined, though, that it started with a history, and there is also much about the communities in Utah and Arizona, and of course, about Warren Jeffs.
I have read quite a bit about the FLDS so many names are already familiar to me in that I’ve read some of those memoirs. I know that a few of the Canadian FLDS had a trial wrap up in BC last year, so I’m going to look that up to refresh my memory on what happened there. This book was published in 2008, so things have happened since then (like the trial in BC). I found the second part of the book – the legal stuff – much more interesting than I expected, and found myself even more interested than in the first half of the book; I guess much of that was exasperation and frustration at all the laws they are breaking... and in some cases, flaunting (in addition to polygamy, there is, of course, all kinds of abuse, plus bilking the government (i.e. taxpayers) out of as much money as possible – they need all that extra income to feed their 15+ wives and 70+ children (ok, that might just be Blackmore with that many, but you get the picture)).
Needed a pallet cleanser and this was perfect. It reads more like an academic, so at times was a little tough to get through, but I’m so glad I got to read this. If you know me, you know I’m fascinated by group mentalities, especially within religious sects and cults. Documentaries like “Keep Sweet, Pray, and Obey” and “Murder among Mormons” got me super interested in Mormons and FLDS, and this book delves into the lesser known Canadian aspects of everything. Right off the bat I LOVED Daphne Bramham’s voice in her writing, she says what everyone thinks but is too scared to say. Her sources were fantastic, speaking to a lot of current and ex members of the group. It is so unsettling to know that a lot of this stuff is still going on
The bottom line of this book is that rich, powerful, white men can get away with anything they want because other rich, powerful men will let them do it and it takes the entire community to force governments to enforce the laws that they pass. This book is just that a call for community to step forward and deal with men who under the guise of religion force young girls to marry men and have babies while in their teens. Unfortunately if these things are not dealt with they grow until they undermine the lives and the faith citizens have of the law and we are so much poorer for it.
This was a pretty in depth look at the disgusting FLDS cult - going way back to the start. I thought the subtitle was misleading seeing as there’s way less written about child brides and the lost boys compared to Blackmore and Jeffs which was a disappointment. There was, in my opinion, too many people introduced for too short of times to keep everyone straight.
this was an interesting find an entertaining read in the beginning! However I feel like the books could have been wrapped up earlier and tended to drag on and on.. fascinating content but maybe needed an executive summary?
This was eye opening. I had no idea that fundamentalist Mormon groups were living in Canada and our governments are doing nothing about the abuse and rape of women and children. In fact the BC government funds their schools which teach white supremacy.
As the great-great-great-grandchild of people who immigrated to this continent to practise their Morman faith, I'm very glad not to have been raised in one of this radical sects of human traffickers.
I liked this book because I like reading anything about polygamy. It was interesting to see the perspective of polygamy in Canada and the development of the Bountiful community.
This book was recommended to me after I had read a book portraying the journey of a child-bride from her childhood to escaping and charging Warren Jeffs.
As with each book dealing with the FLDS that I've read I learned even more with this book. It focuses primarily on Bountiful and what has gone on there but ties together the connection with the FLDS south of the border. The book shares the history of the FLDS from the early days of keeping quiet about how they wanted to live their faith (polygamously) from the mainstream LDS through to choosing one-man rule. The book explores the complex nature of not only the sect but the relationship the sect has with nearby Creston - how the economic ties make it difficult for people in Creston to publicly disapprove of what they see going on. Also, how through essentially indentured labour, the FLDS businesses can undercut any other competition during a bidding process.
Bramham is a journalist, working for the Vancouver Star. This book developed out of her investigative articles about the FLDS community called Bountiful, located in British Columbia. As Utah, Arizona and Texas continue to pursue the issue of exploitative treatment of women and girls within the FLDS belief system, Bountiful and its residents will be in U.S. newspapers more frequently. Young women have been moved back and forth from Canada to Texas over the recent past. Bramham obviously has bias on the treatment of women in this polygamous society.
Love love love anything to do with Mormonism and the FLDS, but as usual with this sort of "expose", I found the writing a bit dry and journalistic. Worth reading though, and I learned that a consultant we have worked with in the AIDS Service Field was an advisor to the ministry of children and family development (perhaps previously called "child welfare"?) and one of the key original players in trying to get Blackmore charged for exploiting and abusing women and children ... Dyan Dunsmoor-Farley - a very inspiring and capable consultant (not to mention expensive ...) ;)
- interesting read - fascinating subject - somewhat overly detailed, I thought - I was not aware of the statistics: between 1,200 and 2,500 polygamous Mormon relationships in Canada (primarily in B.C.), completely in violation of Canada's Criminal Code, but systematically tolerated by the courts, the police, and politicians in general - girls forceably married off at age 14 or 15 (sometimes to men in their 50's, 60's, or even 70's)
This doesn't touch too much on Warren Jeffs, but more on their cult in Canada. It gives a brief history of Mormonism, and how polygamy was revitalized. It tells how older men where "married" to child brides, and of the lost boys who were booted out of the FDLS. If you're interested in learning more about Sister Wives , then pick this book up!!
The author somehow manages to make this topic, which I usually find fascinating, totally boring and slow moving. Her writing feels disjointed, jumping all over the place and chapters end abruptly. A shame, I was hoping for better.
This was interesting, although I found some of her arguments disingenuous. It was also confusing at a number of points, mostly because there are only 4 or 5 last names in the entire book, and the first names get shared around a lot, too.
Sensationalized. Relies too heavily on apostate narratives rather than triangulating sources. Makes the mistake of focussing on polygamy as the source of the oppression in FLDS communities rather than extreme patriarchy.
Being from Creston, I am very familiar with the FLDS. This book gave the history or the FLDS in Canada. It was a very heavy read but was well worth it.
fasctinating really, however not the most well-written book out there. excellent to follow carolyn jessop's biography, more history and detail to what her life must have been like.