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Indian Summer
Verano Indio
Verano indio es el primer trabajo conjunto de Milo Manara con el maestro Hugo Pratt, creador de Corto Maltés. Una genial historia dominada por las pasiones y el enfrentamiento racial ambientada en la América puritana del siglo XVII.
El dibujo estilizado del mejor Milo Manara y la genial pluma de Hugo Pratt se unen en esta trágica historia de la América colonial.
160 pages, Hardcover
First published January 1, 1983
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Milo Manara
601 books352 followersMaurilio Manara – known professionally as Milo Manara – is an Italian comic book writer and artist, best known for his erotic approach to the medium.
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February 9, 2016
I had to mull over how to rate this carefully, and, boy, is this one hard book to rate!
On one hand, there's the story itself, scripted by Hugo Pratt. It's a gritty tale of conflict between English settlers in 1600s North America and Indian natives that starts when a white girl from the town is cornered by two Native young men whilst taking a walk and is raped, which calls bloody vengeance on the culprits. But although that's the opening plotline, it's not the central one. Instead, the focus is on the Lewis family, a single mother and her four children, and their vicissitudes that result from one of the Lewis boys taking the victim to their farm, which in turn becomes a battlefield for the English soldiers and the Indians.
The Lewises are an interesting family, and very messed up, too. The mother is a Hester Prynne type of "fallen woman," who carries her own "scarlet letter" in the form of a mark on her face, and lives in an isolated farm and is shunned by Puritan society from the town as she's never revealed the identity of the father of her four children. But unlike Hawthorne's heroine, she's a really tragic woman and whose true story, revealed near the end, is a gut-wrenching one and can be really hard to read. Her eldest son, Elijah, is the most likable of them all and the noblest, not to mention the only one that is right in the head. The two next, Abner and Phillis, elicit very conflicting feelings, especially the latter, because on one hand you can understand why they're so shocking in their ways, but on the other hand you might dislike them for that same reason. Their story is very dark, and it doesn't pull no punches, yet at the same time you feel like the author didn't waste ink in trying to romanticise one side and demonise the other, for both sides are at fault in this conflagration. But whilst no camp is clear-cut good or bad, the same cannot be said of the characters, for they're not all gray; there's black and white too.
So far, so good. And now we come to the art, and that's where I find issues to take note of. In reality, my issues could be summed up in two words: Milo Manara.
Had it not been for Pratt, I'd not have picked this up, because Manara I know well and have an endless list of observations to his work from all my prior reads. No, it's not that it's adult level of eroticism; there's plenty of artists who always are drawing only erotic or sensual art, like Luis Royo, and I love them. No, it's not that he is explicit, more so than other erotic art illustrators. It's that Manara panders to the most perverted side of men with his provocative and often problematic handling of dubious consent and non-consensual intercourse. When Manara is illustrating, it's all male gaze, male gaze everywhere, and nothing but male gaze. For that, he often inserts sudden and out-of-nowhere nudes, women all of a sudden lift their skirts and show everything, or appear suddenly nude from one panel to the next in inviting poses even when the story doesn't call for it, and so on. And it's so grating! It sours the storytelling up. He already courted a big controversy when he drew a cover for Spider-Woman in which he drew the superheroine in an overtly provocative pose (and it wasn't even the first time he did that, just the one that got more press coverage). And he doesn't stop at unnecessary nudity and shock, which in itself would be bothersome but depending on the reader it can be ignored for the sake of the story. It's that he crosses the line into depicting what's totally unacceptable from whichever angle you look at it: That's frankly disgusting, and it cannot be excused with any argument about time period mores as it has nothing to do with such. There's plenty of adult themes here, violence, etc., and it'd have called for a more responsible handling than Manara was able to bring forth. Other than that, the art is visually appealing and with a pleasing palette of colours; I suspect it's his talent what allows the artist to get away with a lot of what he does.
This isn't a book I'd recommend if you don't think you can take all this in. If you think you can have a try at this, or are used to grimdark storytelling, then consider yourself forewarned about what you may expect from this.
On one hand, there's the story itself, scripted by Hugo Pratt. It's a gritty tale of conflict between English settlers in 1600s North America and Indian natives that starts when a white girl from the town is cornered by two Native young men whilst taking a walk and is raped, which calls bloody vengeance on the culprits. But although that's the opening plotline, it's not the central one. Instead, the focus is on the Lewis family, a single mother and her four children, and their vicissitudes that result from one of the Lewis boys taking the victim to their farm, which in turn becomes a battlefield for the English soldiers and the Indians.
The Lewises are an interesting family, and very messed up, too. The mother is a Hester Prynne type of "fallen woman," who carries her own "scarlet letter" in the form of a mark on her face, and lives in an isolated farm and is shunned by Puritan society from the town as she's never revealed the identity of the father of her four children. But unlike Hawthorne's heroine, she's a really tragic woman and whose true story, revealed near the end, is a gut-wrenching one and can be really hard to read. Her eldest son, Elijah, is the most likable of them all and the noblest, not to mention the only one that is right in the head. The two next, Abner and Phillis, elicit very conflicting feelings, especially the latter, because on one hand you can understand why they're so shocking in their ways, but on the other hand you might dislike them for that same reason. Their story is very dark, and it doesn't pull no punches, yet at the same time you feel like the author didn't waste ink in trying to romanticise one side and demonise the other, for both sides are at fault in this conflagration. But whilst no camp is clear-cut good or bad, the same cannot be said of the characters, for they're not all gray; there's black and white too.
So far, so good. And now we come to the art, and that's where I find issues to take note of. In reality, my issues could be summed up in two words: Milo Manara.
Had it not been for Pratt, I'd not have picked this up, because Manara I know well and have an endless list of observations to his work from all my prior reads. No, it's not that it's adult level of eroticism; there's plenty of artists who always are drawing only erotic or sensual art, like Luis Royo, and I love them. No, it's not that he is explicit, more so than other erotic art illustrators. It's that Manara panders to the most perverted side of men with his provocative and often problematic handling of dubious consent and non-consensual intercourse. When Manara is illustrating, it's all male gaze, male gaze everywhere, and nothing but male gaze. For that, he often inserts sudden and out-of-nowhere nudes, women all of a sudden lift their skirts and show everything, or appear suddenly nude from one panel to the next in inviting poses even when the story doesn't call for it, and so on. And it's so grating! It sours the storytelling up. He already courted a big controversy when he drew a cover for Spider-Woman in which he drew the superheroine in an overtly provocative pose (and it wasn't even the first time he did that, just the one that got more press coverage). And he doesn't stop at unnecessary nudity and shock, which in itself would be bothersome but depending on the reader it can be ignored for the sake of the story. It's that he crosses the line into depicting what's totally unacceptable from whichever angle you look at it: That's frankly disgusting, and it cannot be excused with any argument about time period mores as it has nothing to do with such. There's plenty of adult themes here, violence, etc., and it'd have called for a more responsible handling than Manara was able to bring forth. Other than that, the art is visually appealing and with a pleasing palette of colours; I suspect it's his talent what allows the artist to get away with a lot of what he does.
This isn't a book I'd recommend if you don't think you can take all this in. If you think you can have a try at this, or are used to grimdark storytelling, then consider yourself forewarned about what you may expect from this.
April 6, 2025
PT De volta às leituras desenhadas por Manara, desta vez com argumento de Hugo Pratt, o lendário criador de Corto Maltese.
Um acontecimento logo no início da história serve de rastilho para um grande conflito entre colonizadores americanos e nativos americanos (índios).
Uma trama que prende do princípio ao fim, ilustrada com a sensualidade a que Manara já nos habituou, e escrita com a mestria narrativa de Pratt, que nos mergulha completamente na história.
Uma leitura obrigatória para os fãs de ambos os autores.
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EN Back to Manara’s illustrated stories, this time with a script by Hugo Pratt, the legendary creator of Corto Maltese.
An event early in the story sets off a major conflict between American colonizers and Native Americans (Indians).
A plot that grips you from beginning to end, illustrated with the sensuality we've come to expect from Manara, and written with Pratt’s narrative mastery that fully immerses us in the story.
A must-read for fans of both authors.
Um acontecimento logo no início da história serve de rastilho para um grande conflito entre colonizadores americanos e nativos americanos (índios).
Uma trama que prende do princípio ao fim, ilustrada com a sensualidade a que Manara já nos habituou, e escrita com a mestria narrativa de Pratt, que nos mergulha completamente na história.
Uma leitura obrigatória para os fãs de ambos os autores.
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EN Back to Manara’s illustrated stories, this time with a script by Hugo Pratt, the legendary creator of Corto Maltese.
An event early in the story sets off a major conflict between American colonizers and Native Americans (Indians).
A plot that grips you from beginning to end, illustrated with the sensuality we've come to expect from Manara, and written with Pratt’s narrative mastery that fully immerses us in the story.
A must-read for fans of both authors.
June 29, 2025
Takiego obleśnego komiksu to chyba w życiu nie czytałam. 1,5⭐ za Eliasza
April 26, 2023
Manara's art has never looked better. I love all the panels with long grass and forested areas. He of course draws figures very well, but tends to have all his characters look the same especially women. Tall, slender, very attractive.
Hugo Pratt is telling the story. It starts off strong with a rape, some killings, a conflict between natives and a family of mostly white people. All during the American Frontier. But it sort of fizzles out and Pratt just finds a lot of excuses for Manara to draw naked women. There is a cool battle scene between the natives and the local European settlement.
The art and color is great. But there's a few scenes that are happening at night that you can only tell are at night because the moon is visible, people have torches, and characters say it's night time - other than that the color is as bright as day time!
Hugo Pratt is telling the story. It starts off strong with a rape, some killings, a conflict between natives and a family of mostly white people. All during the American Frontier. But it sort of fizzles out and Pratt just finds a lot of excuses for Manara to draw naked women. There is a cool battle scene between the natives and the local European settlement.
The art and color is great. But there's a few scenes that are happening at night that you can only tell are at night because the moon is visible, people have torches, and characters say it's night time - other than that the color is as bright as day time!
August 10, 2016
IDEK, gorgeous art except apparently Manara deliberately draws one identical 'cock goes where?' face for ALL of the female characters and the male gaze is so overwhelming that I kinda wanted to go and take a shower after every few panels. Decent story though.
December 20, 2018
Καλό κόμικ και προφανώς πολύ σκληρό όπως αναμενόταν. Πιο πολύ Μανάρα παρά Πρατ κατ'εμε. Πολύ πιο πολύ. Στο σενάριο σαφώς μιας και το σκίτσο είναι εξ'ολοκλήρου. Να πω την αμαρτία μου όμως; Πιο πολύ ευχαριστήθηκα τα μικρά κειμενάκια στο τέλος της ιστορίας γραμμένα αποκλειστικά από τον Πρατ παρά όλο το υπόλοιπο, και αυτό γιατί ενώ γουστάρω τον Μανάρα αρκετά ώστε να ευχαριστηθώ το στιλ του, όταν οι λέξεις έχουν αέρα Πρατ και το σχέδιο όχι, μου φαντάζει ημιτελές. Σαφώς όχι κακό, αλλά με Πρατ-ικό σκίτσο θα απογειωνόταν. :) Τώρα έχει μπει απλά στον αεροδιάδρομο, οι επιβάτες έχουν βάλει τις ζώνες τους και οι αεροσυνοδοί δείχνουν τα σωσίβια και τις εξόδους κινδύνου. :) Αλλά δεν απογειώνεται. :)
Τώρα για την Ελληνική έκδοση που είχα και τόσο κάψα να βρω, τι να σχολιάσω ακριβώς; Τα είδωλα στην εκτύπωση στο τελευταίο 1/3 του κόμικ; Την μετάφραση που ακούγεται λες και την έκανε κανένας δωδεκάχρονος με τις πρώτες κάψες να βαράνε την πόρτα και αυτός να ντρέπεται γι'αυτές; Ρε αγγλικές εκδόσεις ξανά και ξανά, το μόνο που καταφέρνουν αυτές οι απόπειρες των 90's είναι να καταστρέφουν την αίγλη και να κλέβουν λίγο (έως πολύ) από την ευχαρίστηση που προσφέρει το original υλικό. Οκ, για τον αντίστοιχο Αλέξανδρο του 1990 η δυνατότητα να το διαβάσει στα Ελληνικά θα ήταν επαρκής για την προσπέραση ακόμα και των πιο χτυπητών και ερασιτεχνικών λαθών. Για του 2018 όμως, κερδίζουν απλά ένα μειδίαμα που ξεπερνά το μόνιμο "ε και πάλι καλά να λέγαμε που βγήκε έστω και έτσι..".
Τώρα για την Ελληνική έκδοση που είχα και τόσο κάψα να βρω, τι να σχολιάσω ακριβώς; Τα είδωλα στην εκτύπωση στο τελευταίο 1/3 του κόμικ; Την μετάφραση που ακούγεται λες και την έκανε κανένας δωδεκάχρονος με τις πρώτες κάψες να βαράνε την πόρτα και αυτός να ντρέπεται γι'αυτές; Ρε αγγλικές εκδόσεις ξανά και ξανά, το μόνο που καταφέρνουν αυτές οι απόπειρες των 90's είναι να καταστρέφουν την αίγλη και να κλέβουν λίγο (έως πολύ) από την ευχαρίστηση που προσφέρει το original υλικό. Οκ, για τον αντίστοιχο Αλέξανδρο του 1990 η δυνατότητα να το διαβάσει στα Ελληνικά θα ήταν επαρκής για την προσπέραση ακόμα και των πιο χτυπητών και ερασιτεχνικών λαθών. Για του 2018 όμως, κερδίζουν απλά ένα μειδίαμα που ξεπερνά το μόνιμο "ε και πάλι καλά να λέγαμε που βγήκε έστω και έτσι..".
June 19, 2013
My second historical stand-alone comic from Hugo Pratt (a hefty one at 150+ pages), drawn by Milo Manara. They play to each other's strengths, as Pratt is a thorough researcher and a great plotter for dark tales but a more modest draughtsman, and Manara is a very good artist when he is held in check and not going overboard with nudity and with being provocative. I liked the colour palette in particular in this issue, a lot of yellow and orange and ochre and desaturated greens and blues.
And I should mention from the start that this story is also adult oriented material, like my previous El Gaucho experience, dealing with rape, incest, murder, witch hunting, war.
I'll let the images talk, and limit my synopsis at mentioning it is a tale set in New England in the seventenn century, in a Puritan settlement next to an Indian village. Some connections could be made to The Last of the Mohicans, but the focus is more on the lack of communication between the natives and the settlers and on the hypocrisy of the moralists who hate women ( references to Salem events)
And I should mention from the start that this story is also adult oriented material, like my previous El Gaucho experience, dealing with rape, incest, murder, witch hunting, war.
I'll let the images talk, and limit my synopsis at mentioning it is a tale set in New England in the seventenn century, in a Puritan settlement next to an Indian village. Some connections could be made to The Last of the Mohicans, but the focus is more on the lack of communication between the natives and the settlers and on the hypocrisy of the moralists who hate women ( references to Salem events)
May 18, 2022
It's Puritans vs Native Americans in this story of incest, violence, and dark secrets.
Along with an interesting story, this was a quick and easy read because of minimalistic dialog and gorgeous art.
Along with an interesting story, this was a quick and easy read because of minimalistic dialog and gorgeous art.
December 29, 2019
The Pratt story is done well with sympathetic natives and showing the brutality of war, but Manara's depictions of this story's rapes are disturbing in a male gaze and "the woman enjoys it" way. Hard to recommend picking this up.
June 25, 2019
This was bad. Crazy characters running around, doing crazy things and saying stupid words. Somewhere under this all is hidden interesting story about colonization, predjudices and fight between white men and indians. But when you don't know original - Scarlet Letter, you won't get much from it. All of it is lost in bad storytelling and erotic fanservice
December 20, 2023
I show and talk about this Italian masterpiece right here :
https://youtu.be/hyuh-DBdClw
November 30, 2016
Disclaimer: This is an adult-themed comic book. It contains (maybe unnecessary) female nudity. You've been warned.
This one served as an introduction for me to both Pratt and Manara. And I'm sure Pratt's fans, as much as Manara's, would have much to say about how inappropriate an introduction this volume would be to each artist's body of work, but truth is, Gaiman brought me here (See his introduction to his 'Endless Nights' Sandman-verse related volume) and I was already prejudiced that I would read a fantastic piece of art. Although I can already hear the criticism against Manara's strips being filled with unnecessary, male-gaze eye-candy nudity and misogyny (and I'll admit some nudity felt indeed out of place at times), we need to consider this work in its proper context.
"Indian Summer" (or "Everything started with an Indian Summer" as the actual translation of the Italian title goes) is a 33-year-old comic book, its story set in America, where the English settlers have recently arrived, and revolves around a matriarchical family, put together by Abigail Lewis, an abused and beaten woman cast out of the Protestant colony of New Canaan (and marked with a scarlet letter), who raises her children among the White colonists (and the Puritan morals they brought along from Old Europe) and America's native Indians. When one of her sons murders two Indians after they have raped New Canaan's Pilgrim Black's niece, the revenge of the tribe is a fierce wave that spawns revelations about the Puritan settlers' hypocrisy, the Lewis's and Black's families (incestuous and traumatic) past and leads to a tragic catharsis.
Manara's strips, if one can get past the nudity, which I found suitable for this context, with their wonderful depictions of nature, and the long, deep, intense and meaningful silences, make a great pairing with Pratt's story. Punctuated by the sexual acts (always with a critical subtext), Manara's illustrations create a masterful rhythm in telling the story, from the introduction, to the episodes, their revelations and the denouement, which is concluded by an excellent post-cllimactic/post-coital epilogue that elevates this historical graphic novel to an epic of the American Odyssey.
Powerful, moving, thought-provoking. Highly recommended.
This one served as an introduction for me to both Pratt and Manara. And I'm sure Pratt's fans, as much as Manara's, would have much to say about how inappropriate an introduction this volume would be to each artist's body of work, but truth is, Gaiman brought me here (See his introduction to his 'Endless Nights' Sandman-verse related volume) and I was already prejudiced that I would read a fantastic piece of art. Although I can already hear the criticism against Manara's strips being filled with unnecessary, male-gaze eye-candy nudity and misogyny (and I'll admit some nudity felt indeed out of place at times), we need to consider this work in its proper context.
"Indian Summer" (or "Everything started with an Indian Summer" as the actual translation of the Italian title goes) is a 33-year-old comic book, its story set in America, where the English settlers have recently arrived, and revolves around a matriarchical family, put together by Abigail Lewis, an abused and beaten woman cast out of the Protestant colony of New Canaan (and marked with a scarlet letter), who raises her children among the White colonists (and the Puritan morals they brought along from Old Europe) and America's native Indians. When one of her sons murders two Indians after they have raped New Canaan's Pilgrim Black's niece, the revenge of the tribe is a fierce wave that spawns revelations about the Puritan settlers' hypocrisy, the Lewis's and Black's families (incestuous and traumatic) past and leads to a tragic catharsis.
Manara's strips, if one can get past the nudity, which I found suitable for this context, with their wonderful depictions of nature, and the long, deep, intense and meaningful silences, make a great pairing with Pratt's story. Punctuated by the sexual acts (always with a critical subtext), Manara's illustrations create a masterful rhythm in telling the story, from the introduction, to the episodes, their revelations and the denouement, which is concluded by an excellent post-cllimactic/post-coital epilogue that elevates this historical graphic novel to an epic of the American Odyssey.
Powerful, moving, thought-provoking. Highly recommended.
December 19, 2016
Western storicamente documentato, sceneggiato da Hugo Pratt e disegnato da Milo Manara. Un dream team che realizza un lavoro notevole: tavole ricche molto belle e dettagliate, una storia di frontiera che sul finale "finge" di essere un episodio reale che avrebbe ispirato Hawthorne per il suo celeberrimo "La lettera scarlatta", in uno dei giochi di specchi e rimandi tanto cari a Pratt.
Personalmente però ho un problema con Milo Manara: i suoi disegni sono tanto belli quanto poco evocativi e coinvolgenti, le espressioni dei personaggi sono spesso sgradevolmente fuori contesto, così come lo è l'erotismo forzato per cui le ragazze sono obbligate a esporre la patata al vento ogni 4 pagine - anche in un racconto western. L'unica sequenza che funziona davvero è l'amplesso nella vasca da bagno: lì si vede che Manara gioca in casa. Il resto era meglio se fosse stato lasciato a Pratt.
Personalmente però ho un problema con Milo Manara: i suoi disegni sono tanto belli quanto poco evocativi e coinvolgenti, le espressioni dei personaggi sono spesso sgradevolmente fuori contesto, così come lo è l'erotismo forzato per cui le ragazze sono obbligate a esporre la patata al vento ogni 4 pagine - anche in un racconto western. L'unica sequenza che funziona davvero è l'amplesso nella vasca da bagno: lì si vede che Manara gioca in casa. Il resto era meglio se fosse stato lasciato a Pratt.
July 29, 2025
Priznajem da ovo baš fino kreće i da je jako pitko. Bukvalno proleti čovek kroz 150-ak stranica i ne oseti. Crtež, boje i ceo ambijent su na momente prelepi i očaravajući. Gotovo da možete osetiti peckanje sunčevih zgraka po koži, udahnuti jesen, čuti penušanje talasa, buku galebova... Skoro pa raj. I to je ono lepo u stripu.
S jedne strane imamo još uvek koliko-toliko slobodne, s prirodom povezane, razdragane, iskrene, spontane Indijance, s druge dvoličnost puritanske crkve, njenih predstavnika i sledbenika, a negde u sredini žigosanu ženu i njene potomke. Nije ovde teško izabrati stranu, ako ćemo je uopšte i birati. Takođe, nije teško ni poverovati u svu prikazanu ljudsku prljavštinu, jer se sigurno i dalje odigrava u nekim mračnim sobama i umovima ovog sveta, a svedoci smo da tek povremeno ispliva na videlo.
Likovi su mi nekako ostali plitki i nedovršeni. Abner me možda i ponajviše nervirao - video suknju, odmah poleteo za njom, napravio pičvajz, pa se iz istog sklonio i ostavio druge da ginu. No, onda se setih na kog debila me to podsetilo i zašto sam isto odreagovala. Na Parisa! Ilijadu sam morala da čitam u gimnaziji i mnogo mi je teško pala (priznajem da se gotovo ničega ne sećam, verovatno jer se moralo čitati kad mu vreme nije). Lakše mi je bilo pogledati film, kome sam zbog stradanja Hektorovog prilepila naziv - Žao mi čoveka. Znam, odlutah.
Da me neki ne shvate pogrešno, nije meni ovde problem erotika, niti su mi problem pohotni pogledi/umovi i naga znojava tela, mene nervira kako se to koristi ovde - vrlo usiljeno, neprirodno, nepotrebno i vrlo glupo. Posebno mi je iritantno kako se silovanje prikazuje kao uživanje(?!). I to plavuši nisu dovoljna dva k***, nego je odmah, posle silovanja, skočila i na stričev treći kao da se ništa nije desilo. WTF?! Onda ona sestra Filis, poj*** sve živo i mrtvo, ali eto nije samo svog najstarijeg polubrata, jer ljubav. Šeta tako šumom i proplancima zadignute haljine i gole guzice (kao svako tipično žensko?), jer joj valjda prija da joj vetar duva među nogama kad nema nikog pri ruci, šta li!? Onaj mali koji onaniše pri svakom pojavljivanju kao da je malouman... Čemu ovo, jbte?! Jasno mi je da je trebalo kontrirati puritancima u stripu, ali mora li kontra da bude incest i nimfomanija? Zar nije bilo ničeg kvalitetnijeg za ponuditi? Da sam htela erotiku imala bih iskrenijih izbora.
Zaključak - pročitati Ilijadu ponovo, ali k'o čovek.
S jedne strane imamo još uvek koliko-toliko slobodne, s prirodom povezane, razdragane, iskrene, spontane Indijance, s druge dvoličnost puritanske crkve, njenih predstavnika i sledbenika, a negde u sredini žigosanu ženu i njene potomke. Nije ovde teško izabrati stranu, ako ćemo je uopšte i birati. Takođe, nije teško ni poverovati u svu prikazanu ljudsku prljavštinu, jer se sigurno i dalje odigrava u nekim mračnim sobama i umovima ovog sveta, a svedoci smo da tek povremeno ispliva na videlo.
Likovi su mi nekako ostali plitki i nedovršeni. Abner me možda i ponajviše nervirao - video suknju, odmah poleteo za njom, napravio pičvajz, pa se iz istog sklonio i ostavio druge da ginu. No, onda se setih na kog debila me to podsetilo i zašto sam isto odreagovala. Na Parisa! Ilijadu sam morala da čitam u gimnaziji i mnogo mi je teško pala (priznajem da se gotovo ničega ne sećam, verovatno jer se moralo čitati kad mu vreme nije). Lakše mi je bilo pogledati film, kome sam zbog stradanja Hektorovog prilepila naziv - Žao mi čoveka. Znam, odlutah.
Da me neki ne shvate pogrešno, nije meni ovde problem erotika, niti su mi problem pohotni pogledi/umovi i naga znojava tela, mene nervira kako se to koristi ovde - vrlo usiljeno, neprirodno, nepotrebno i vrlo glupo. Posebno mi je iritantno kako se silovanje prikazuje kao uživanje(?!). I to plavuši nisu dovoljna dva k***, nego je odmah, posle silovanja, skočila i na stričev treći kao da se ništa nije desilo. WTF?! Onda ona sestra Filis, poj*** sve živo i mrtvo, ali eto nije samo svog najstarijeg polubrata, jer ljubav. Šeta tako šumom i proplancima zadignute haljine i gole guzice (kao svako tipično žensko?), jer joj valjda prija da joj vetar duva među nogama kad nema nikog pri ruci, šta li!? Onaj mali koji onaniše pri svakom pojavljivanju kao da je malouman... Čemu ovo, jbte?! Jasno mi je da je trebalo kontrirati puritancima u stripu, ali mora li kontra da bude incest i nimfomanija? Zar nije bilo ničeg kvalitetnijeg za ponuditi? Da sam htela erotiku imala bih iskrenijih izbora.
Zaključak - pročitati Ilijadu ponovo, ali k'o čovek.
April 20, 2017
Manara & Pratt, un gran libro de dos maestros del cómic.
August 17, 2019
Muy buena ambientación aunque es algo liante con personajes. Gran dibujo de Manara y una buena historia de la época colonial de Estados Unidos
October 10, 2022
Saradnja dva genijalaca.
Kao kad slušaš neku dobru baladu.
Kao kad slušaš neku dobru baladu.
July 14, 2017
Forse perche'
come tutti gli
animali giovani quando
comincia l'estate indiana,
poco prima delle notti
fredde dell'inverno, si
ha bisogno di giocare
con le femmine.
(50)
come tutti gli
animali giovani quando
comincia l'estate indiana,
poco prima delle notti
fredde dell'inverno, si
ha bisogno di giocare
con le femmine.
(50)
February 5, 2008
This book is beautifully illustrated by Italian cartoonist Hugo Pratt. I think the story and dialouge gets a bit lost in the translation, but is easily made up for in the amazingly clear visual storytelling. It's very hard to find Pratts work here in the states , but i'm on the hunt for more.
January 25, 2014
Beautifully rendered account of settlers and savages inflicting violence and rape upon one another.
April 2, 2015
I did not know that Angouleme gave an award to pornography
March 26, 2024
Hugo Pratt ya da Manara ile çok derin bir ilişkim yok açıkçası. Manara'nın Gullivera kitabını, evvelinde bulvar gazetesinde yayınlanan erotik hikayelerin resimli haline benzettiğimden bahsetmiştim. Dönemi için erotik ama günümüz için komik olan bir anlatı dili. Üstelik kült bi iş olan Gülliver'in Gezileri kitabını komik/erotik bi şekilde parodileştirmek ve bunu iyi kotarmak gerçekten bir yetenek işiydi. Etkilenmiştim. Flaneur'den çıkan Caravaggio'da ona keza benim için fazlasıyla etkileyici bir işti. Ve yine Manara tarafından üretilmişti.
Bu kitapla İt çizgi romanının üreticisi Oytun Yılmaz'ın tavsiyesi üzerine tanıştım. Üstüne yaratıcı tarafında da Hugo Pratt'ı da görünce okumak için acele ettim. Ama açık söylemek gerekirse kitabı bitirdiğimde aklım epeyce karıştı. Hikaye epeyce sert bir açılışla başlıyor. İki yerli erkek bir köylü kadına tecavüz ediyor ve bu olaya şahit olan köylü diğer erkek iki yerliyi öldürüp birinin kafa derisini yüzerek tecavüze uğrayan kadına veriyor.
Bi saniye!? Noluyor lan? Bu nasıl açılış? Şok edici bir giriş diye buna diyebilirim. Ama…
İzleyiciyi (çizgi roman okunur mu izlenir mi?) koltuğuna mıhlayan bir anlatı olabilecekken çok basit detaylar kesif bir mide bulantısı yaratıyor kitpta. Manara'nın çizgisinde her şey çok pornografik. Fakat bu pornografi tabirini seks ya da erotizm açısından söylemiyorum elbette. Zeynep Sayın'ın da bahsettiği gibi imgenin pornografisinden, şiddetin arzulanmasından bahsediyorum. Çünkü bahsettiğim açılışı izlediğinizde, yukarıda yazdıklarımı okurken yaşadığınız dehşetin zerresini hissedemiyorsunuz. Aşırı derecede estetik tecavüze uğrayan (yazarken bile karnıma ağrı girdi) bir kadın, aşırı tiyatral biçimde ölen yerliler, onları büyük bir soğuk kanlılıkla öldüren yakışıklı (ve elbette seksi) köylü adam. Her şey çok stilize. Manara'nın çizerken, düşünürken keyif aldığını, daha da kötüsü keyif aldığı, arzuladığı bir şeyi çizdiğini hissedebiliyorsunuz çünkü çizimler size haz verme üstüne kurulu. Özellikle aynı kadının kitabının ilerleyen bölümlerinde tekrar aynı şeye uğraması ve bu kez failine "öncekilerden daha iyi" olduğunu söylemesi fazlaca mide bulandırıcıydı.
Açıkçası Hugo Pratt'ın kaleminden eser yok kitapta. Adı kapakta yazmasa anlamazsınız varlığını. Tecavüz, katliam, ensest ve savaşın pornografik bi anlatısı, ayrıca Manara'nın alakalı alakasız her yerde kıçını başını memesini açan kadınları sadece.
Hepsi bu.
Bu kitapla İt çizgi romanının üreticisi Oytun Yılmaz'ın tavsiyesi üzerine tanıştım. Üstüne yaratıcı tarafında da Hugo Pratt'ı da görünce okumak için acele ettim. Ama açık söylemek gerekirse kitabı bitirdiğimde aklım epeyce karıştı. Hikaye epeyce sert bir açılışla başlıyor. İki yerli erkek bir köylü kadına tecavüz ediyor ve bu olaya şahit olan köylü diğer erkek iki yerliyi öldürüp birinin kafa derisini yüzerek tecavüze uğrayan kadına veriyor.
Bi saniye!? Noluyor lan? Bu nasıl açılış? Şok edici bir giriş diye buna diyebilirim. Ama…
İzleyiciyi (çizgi roman okunur mu izlenir mi?) koltuğuna mıhlayan bir anlatı olabilecekken çok basit detaylar kesif bir mide bulantısı yaratıyor kitpta. Manara'nın çizgisinde her şey çok pornografik. Fakat bu pornografi tabirini seks ya da erotizm açısından söylemiyorum elbette. Zeynep Sayın'ın da bahsettiği gibi imgenin pornografisinden, şiddetin arzulanmasından bahsediyorum. Çünkü bahsettiğim açılışı izlediğinizde, yukarıda yazdıklarımı okurken yaşadığınız dehşetin zerresini hissedemiyorsunuz. Aşırı derecede estetik tecavüze uğrayan (yazarken bile karnıma ağrı girdi) bir kadın, aşırı tiyatral biçimde ölen yerliler, onları büyük bir soğuk kanlılıkla öldüren yakışıklı (ve elbette seksi) köylü adam. Her şey çok stilize. Manara'nın çizerken, düşünürken keyif aldığını, daha da kötüsü keyif aldığı, arzuladığı bir şeyi çizdiğini hissedebiliyorsunuz çünkü çizimler size haz verme üstüne kurulu. Özellikle aynı kadının kitabının ilerleyen bölümlerinde tekrar aynı şeye uğraması ve bu kez failine "öncekilerden daha iyi" olduğunu söylemesi fazlaca mide bulandırıcıydı.
Açıkçası Hugo Pratt'ın kaleminden eser yok kitapta. Adı kapakta yazmasa anlamazsınız varlığını. Tecavüz, katliam, ensest ve savaşın pornografik bi anlatısı, ayrıca Manara'nın alakalı alakasız her yerde kıçını başını memesini açan kadınları sadece.
Hepsi bu.
December 1, 2024
(PT) No século 17, uma família que vive na Nova Inglaterra lida com os índios, especialmente dois, que violaram uma jovem mulher, sobrinha de um pastor puritano. A morte dos dois índios poderá levar a um ataque a Nova Canãa, mas a guerra pode ser evitada graças à amizade entre um dos índios e um dos colonos.
Este foi uma das colaborações entre dois dos maiores desenhadores italianos: Hugo Pratt e Milo Manara. Publicado em 1986, ganhou todos os prémios importantes de banda desenhada, incluindo Angouleme, nos anos seguintes. A história é baseada n "A Letra Escarlate", de Nathaniel Hawthorne, e o desenho e a história é bem feita, mostrando as coisas de maneira clara, em termos de desenho. As cores são fantásticas - as cores do outono, muitos amarelos pálidos e castanhos - e o envolvimento nos agarra na história até ao fim. Pode ter muito de erótico, pois Manara é o mestre, mas sem querer ser "spoiler", a história tem um final bem diferente.
Esse, combinado com "El Gaucho", são dois dos mais fabulosos "fumetti" feitos na segunda metade do século XX. Mas creio que não se esperava menos de duas personagens como Manara e Pratt.
Este foi uma das colaborações entre dois dos maiores desenhadores italianos: Hugo Pratt e Milo Manara. Publicado em 1986, ganhou todos os prémios importantes de banda desenhada, incluindo Angouleme, nos anos seguintes. A história é baseada n "A Letra Escarlate", de Nathaniel Hawthorne, e o desenho e a história é bem feita, mostrando as coisas de maneira clara, em termos de desenho. As cores são fantásticas - as cores do outono, muitos amarelos pálidos e castanhos - e o envolvimento nos agarra na história até ao fim. Pode ter muito de erótico, pois Manara é o mestre, mas sem querer ser "spoiler", a história tem um final bem diferente.
Esse, combinado com "El Gaucho", são dois dos mais fabulosos "fumetti" feitos na segunda metade do século XX. Mas creio que não se esperava menos de duas personagens como Manara e Pratt.
April 24, 2023
The story itself isn't too bad, but it's far from being actually good. At its best this is a gripping story about a family homestead caught in a battle between British forces and Native Americans after one of the family members kills two Natives for their part in the rape of a local Puritan girl. I was worried that the storytelling would be insensitive to both women and Natives, but fortunately it's only partially insensitive to women and treats Natives with a reasonable amount of nuance. But the characters are all incredibly one note, and even indistinguishable from one another due to the rather flat narrative style.
I like Manara's artwork despite the heavy lean on the male gaze. It can be fun for certain stories, but when realistic sexual assault is being depicted I do think Manara is the last possible artist I would trust with this kind of subject matter. The scenic portions and dense battle scenes are gorgeous, but the overt male gaze ends up detracting way too much from the rest.
I like Manara's artwork despite the heavy lean on the male gaze. It can be fun for certain stories, but when realistic sexual assault is being depicted I do think Manara is the last possible artist I would trust with this kind of subject matter. The scenic portions and dense battle scenes are gorgeous, but the overt male gaze ends up detracting way too much from the rest.
May 25, 2022
I feel like me and Milo Manara (or Hugo Pratt in this case?) are on completely different wave lengths. Like... dude, this is supposed to be erotic comic, right? It's supposed to be sexy, arousing, maybe funny, possibly a bit taboo. Well, this is all taboo, heaps of violence and the only sex scenes we get are sexual abuse. Let me just go through it, the all story starts with a rape, then we get the backstory of the mother which is all about sexual abuse (there might be one genuine relationship, but we get no pictures for that), than we got the whole uncle-nice manipulation-abuse-sex scene which just made me want to vomit. I think that's it? This is all laced with a generous portion of racist stereotypes and racism in general and... why did I give this two stars?! I guess I felt generous, but I can't say why now.
March 14, 2020
If you have to read a collaboration between Pratt and Manara, make it this one - it is substantially better than "Gaucho". The problem is - "Indian summer" is not a particularly good read, either, as its characters are unlikable and portions of it are obviously rushed. The first act is great - the writing, the art, all of it is sublime, five star material for about 30 pages or so. Then it gets to the meat of the story and one soon realizes that something is quite wrong in terms of how characters react to each other. It is Spanish telenovela writing, honestly. The only thing that saves the comic at this point is an exquisitely rendered battle. By the third act, however, everything goes to hell and things start to develop without any rhyme or reason. There are two developments that are extremely nonsensical. When the story wraps up, the reader should be happy to continue to much better stuff.
December 29, 2021
I find myself wondering how weirdly horny this would have turned out, had Pratt chosen to collaborate with someone besides Milo Manara.
Regardless, it's pretty chauvinistic all-around. A narrative predicated upon rape and featuring plenty of incest, with a bit of inherent racism as garnish. I'm always fascinated by European takes on American subjects, and I'm a fan of Pratt and Manara, but this isn't the best work of either. Manara's drawing is obviously beautiful, but it is also jarringly out of sync with the narrative most of the time. This might have been a case where he would have better served the material if he'd lightened up on the "Manara"-ness.
Regardless, it's pretty chauvinistic all-around. A narrative predicated upon rape and featuring plenty of incest, with a bit of inherent racism as garnish. I'm always fascinated by European takes on American subjects, and I'm a fan of Pratt and Manara, but this isn't the best work of either. Manara's drawing is obviously beautiful, but it is also jarringly out of sync with the narrative most of the time. This might have been a case where he would have better served the material if he'd lightened up on the "Manara"-ness.
March 10, 2022
Artwork: ehhh how can I rate it? It’s both 5/5 and 0/5 at the same time. In short: Milo Manara. The drawings are gorgeous, the movement of depicted people, the details, the scenery, everything is pure beauty. And then comes the porn fixations of Manara. It was simply disturbingly ridiculous to see a woman lifting her skirt for absolutely no reason, or a boob popping out in the middle of the bloody fight. Ehh
Story: 3/5 good(ish) attempt at taking a look at relations between colonisers and natives. Loaded with cliches and thought shortcuts, but still manageable. The native Americans were not that stereotyped so I guess it’s good.
Story: 3/5 good(ish) attempt at taking a look at relations between colonisers and natives. Loaded with cliches and thought shortcuts, but still manageable. The native Americans were not that stereotyped so I guess it’s good.
March 4, 2020
Manara fa il suo solito lavoro, con i consueti pregi e difetti. L'ambientazione esotica e il riferimento letterario sono lì a giustificare il resto, ma non significano molto. Nonostante le ambizioni non è fra fra i lavori di Manara uno dei più riusciti, l'avrei di gran lunga preferito disegnato da Hugo Pratt.
November 15, 2020
Uiteindelijk toch deze bescheiden stripklassieker gelezen. Wow... zo slecht... ongeloofwaardig verhaal, slechte dialogen en Manaras tekenstijl die eigenlijk enkel bij erotiek past (alle vrouwen zijn cliché sexy stoeipoezen). Weg ermee!
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