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Wake #2
Vstříc Temnotě
Některé noční můry nekončí… Zvlášť když se nechtěně dostáváte do snů druhých…Jmenuju se Janie. Je mi teprve sedmnáct, ale skutečnost pro mě začíná být horší než sny.Na Fieldridgeské střední škole se dějí znepokojivé věci. Přesto nikdo nechce promluvit a ani vyšetřování nikam nevede. Co je však ještě horší, začínám odhalovat pravdu o sobě a o mých schopnostech - a ta je pochmurná. Vážně, krutě pochmurná…
256 pages, Paperback
First published February 10, 2009
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Lisa McMann
59 books6,981 followersLisa McMann lives and writes in the Phoenix area. Her newest middle grade fantasy series is called The Forgotten Five. Book one, Map of Flames, was an instant NYT bestseller. It's about five supernatural kids, raised in a deserted hideout, who enter civilization for the first time to search for a hidden stash left behind by their missing, criminal parents.
Book two, The Invisible Spy, is on sale now! Book three, Rebel Undercover, is coming summer 2023, and book 4 will be out in spring of 2024.
Also out now: CLARICE THE BRAVE. It's a story of hope against all odds, about sibling mice who get separated in a mutiny and vow to find one another again.
Lisa's other books include the NYT bestselling THE UNWANTEDS and UNWANTEDS QUESTS series, the GOING WILD trilogy, the YA paranormal WAKE trilogy, the VISIONS trilogy, CRYER'S CROSS, DEAD TO YOU, and INFINITY RING: The Trap Door.
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Book two, The Invisible Spy, is on sale now! Book three, Rebel Undercover, is coming summer 2023, and book 4 will be out in spring of 2024.
Also out now: CLARICE THE BRAVE. It's a story of hope against all odds, about sibling mice who get separated in a mutiny and vow to find one another again.
Lisa's other books include the NYT bestselling THE UNWANTEDS and UNWANTEDS QUESTS series, the GOING WILD trilogy, the YA paranormal WAKE trilogy, the VISIONS trilogy, CRYER'S CROSS, DEAD TO YOU, and INFINITY RING: The Trap Door.
See what's new and where Lisa will be at her
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You can find more info at Lisa'a website, lisamcmann.com, interact with her on Facebook or Twitter, or ask questions on her Instagram.
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June 28, 2011
How sad and moving is this book? I loved it so much more than its predecessor and the worst thing about is that I am refusing to read the conclusion to the trilogy: Gone. I feel that the stage I am at seems to need some kind of conclusion and I desperately want to read more but, on the other hand, I refuse to ruin a story that has so far held me captivated by its depth of emotion and well-built mysteries with an ending that is mediocre.
And I have read enough reviews by trusted goodreads friends to know this ending will not be the one I wanted. But it's more than that, sometimes it takes a very brave author to create an ending that will upset the readers... I could just about handle a change in where it seems the story is headed, but what I can't and won't accept is a poorly written and dragging end (which I've read is all that can be expected here).
I don't want to put you off starting this series; in fact, the reason I'm not reading on is because of how much I liked Wake and Fade. This book was particularly good. Janie and Cabe's relationship is so sweet and touching that you can't help but be caught up in their romance regardless of whether or not you're usually a fan of romances. There's something about the story of two outsiders who find comfort in one another that gets me every time (it did the same in Numbers) and I found myself blinking back tears during parts of the novel.
It's also about far more than just the difficulties of finding love when you have a weird, supernatural ability. Fade has a very dark and sometimes scary mystery story going on as well. Janie is sent to investigate the case of a sexual predator amongst the teaching staff at her high school. It leads to some very frightening and creepy scenes with drugs and attempted rapes... plus, the whole scene towards the end of the party had me completely on edge and made my skin crawl.
This book is truly fantastic and I would recommend it to everyone. I'd also like to point out that I nearly gave up on the series in Wake because the 3rd person present tense reads like stage directions and it was driving me crazy, but trust me and stick with it - it's more than worth it in the end.
And I have read enough reviews by trusted goodreads friends to know this ending will not be the one I wanted. But it's more than that, sometimes it takes a very brave author to create an ending that will upset the readers... I could just about handle a change in where it seems the story is headed, but what I can't and won't accept is a poorly written and dragging end (which I've read is all that can be expected here).
I don't want to put you off starting this series; in fact, the reason I'm not reading on is because of how much I liked Wake and Fade. This book was particularly good. Janie and Cabe's relationship is so sweet and touching that you can't help but be caught up in their romance regardless of whether or not you're usually a fan of romances. There's something about the story of two outsiders who find comfort in one another that gets me every time (it did the same in Numbers) and I found myself blinking back tears during parts of the novel.
It's also about far more than just the difficulties of finding love when you have a weird, supernatural ability. Fade has a very dark and sometimes scary mystery story going on as well. Janie is sent to investigate the case of a sexual predator amongst the teaching staff at her high school. It leads to some very frightening and creepy scenes with drugs and attempted rapes... plus, the whole scene towards the end of the party had me completely on edge and made my skin crawl.
This book is truly fantastic and I would recommend it to everyone. I'd also like to point out that I nearly gave up on the series in Wake because the 3rd person present tense reads like stage directions and it was driving me crazy, but trust me and stick with it - it's more than worth it in the end.
June 26, 2017
Janie is still learning to control/change/deal with the dreams she enters but it got deeper in this second installment. She doesnt only go into their dreams but we get to know the people outside of their dreams.
Janie is less of a scared little girl and more brave and outgoing. Not only did her abilities develop but her personality too.
I dont like it, well i do but i dont because its rude when she is in a dream and we dont know its a dream we think this is really happening, why the heck is this happening then she says it must be a dream and im like well damn dont give me a heart attack.
It could have been a duology because it ended so perfectly. So im nervous and excited for the final book.
Janie is less of a scared little girl and more brave and outgoing. Not only did her abilities develop but her personality too.
I dont like it, well i do but i dont because its rude when she is in a dream and we dont know its a dream we think this is really happening, why the heck is this happening then she says it must be a dream and im like well damn dont give me a heart attack.
It could have been a duology because it ended so perfectly. So im nervous and excited for the final book.
February 15, 2010
Second reading of "Fade" confirmed that this second book is the best in the series. Not only does it develop marvelously the relationship between Janie and Cabel (which was a central theme of "Wake"), but it also brings in an excellent mystery story line. The case Cabe and Janie work on in this book is dark and disturbing and the final party scene is remarkable in its intensity and realness.
Now, having read "Gone," the final book in the trilogy, I strongly recommend to stop reading the series after "Fade." "Gone" just doesn't deliver a highly climatic conclusion to Jamie and Cabel's story we all expect to get after finishing "Fade."
Now, having read "Gone," the final book in the trilogy, I strongly recommend to stop reading the series after "Fade." "Gone" just doesn't deliver a highly climatic conclusion to Jamie and Cabel's story we all expect to get after finishing "Fade."
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February 7, 2009I love this series. I have been waiting to read Fade since I sped through the last few pages of Wake, and I was not disappointed. Everything that I attracted me to the first novel is still there, simplicity of McMann’s writing, quick pace and realistic dialogue.
Fade divulges more about Janie’s ability which was fascinating and unimaginable at the same time. The unique relationship between Janie and Cabel is also taken to a new level.
I usually don’t comment on the content within a novel, but I know there were a few comments on my review of Wake that said they had a problem with the language. So yes, there are cuss words in this book, and if that is going to bother you, keep in mind this novel is about catching a sexual predator.
Fade divulges more about Janie’s ability which was fascinating and unimaginable at the same time. The unique relationship between Janie and Cabel is also taken to a new level.
I usually don’t comment on the content within a novel, but I know there were a few comments on my review of Wake that said they had a problem with the language. So yes, there are cuss words in this book, and if that is going to bother you, keep in mind this novel is about catching a sexual predator.
September 2, 2018
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Като цяло започнаха да се случват по-интересни неща в поредицата. Джейни все още няма контрол върху силите си и научава лошите странични ефекти от дарбата си. Да видим, какво ще стане в последната част :)
Като цяло започнаха да се случват по-интересни неща в поредицата. Джейни все още няма контрол върху силите си и научава лошите странични ефекти от дарбата си. Да видим, какво ще стане в последната част :)
April 4, 2011
I'm reviewing this one after reading the whole trilogy. There won't be any spoilers but that fact shapes the way I see this book, making me like it more.
This trilogy is short, very short. I'm sure that the word count of the three books added together barely exceeds that of most average length novels. So it's easier for me to think of this trilogy as just one book with three parts. Fade reads like all second parts do in this kind of books—you already have the events and players set up in part one, now it's time to get down to business.
The case they're working on is far more interesting and involved that the one in Wake. Also, the strain it puts on Janie and Cabel's relationship seems less contrived than in Wake—there's actual danger this time—and seeing them work through those issues without much of the usual angst—there is some but this is YA after all—or stooping to the use of clichés such as the overused loveless love triangle was refreshing.
One of the things that I liked most about the story was the way Janie handled herself regarding the case. The author uses her to analyze the ways and tricks of sexual predators with a remarkable clarity without making the common mistake of overdoing it by making the character preachy or prude or just stupidly naïve.
Oh, one last thing. I don't exactly know why but I enjoyed the timetable format much more this time around. I'm sure that, in part, it's because I got used to it but I think it has more to do with a sense of urgency throughout the whole book that just wasn't there for me in Wake.
The ending would work equally well for closing the whole story instead of just this book. Reading Gone after this is not only unnecessary but also a bit anticlimactic. I'd still tell you to go for it, just be warned that it's more a long epilogue than a book on its own right.
This trilogy is short, very short. I'm sure that the word count of the three books added together barely exceeds that of most average length novels. So it's easier for me to think of this trilogy as just one book with three parts. Fade reads like all second parts do in this kind of books—you already have the events and players set up in part one, now it's time to get down to business.
The case they're working on is far more interesting and involved that the one in Wake. Also, the strain it puts on Janie and Cabel's relationship seems less contrived than in Wake—there's actual danger this time—and seeing them work through those issues without much of the usual angst—there is some but this is YA after all—or stooping to the use of clichés such as the overused loveless love triangle was refreshing.
One of the things that I liked most about the story was the way Janie handled herself regarding the case. The author uses her to analyze the ways and tricks of sexual predators with a remarkable clarity without making the common mistake of overdoing it by making the character preachy or prude or just stupidly naïve.
Oh, one last thing. I don't exactly know why but I enjoyed the timetable format much more this time around. I'm sure that, in part, it's because I got used to it but I think it has more to do with a sense of urgency throughout the whole book that just wasn't there for me in Wake.
The ending would work equally well for closing the whole story instead of just this book. Reading Gone after this is not only unnecessary but also a bit anticlimactic. I'd still tell you to go for it, just be warned that it's more a long epilogue than a book on its own right.
March 20, 2012
A lot of my criticisms of the book Wake, remain for its sequel. You can read my Wake review here. This is more of a 3.5 than a 4 star.
Beware Spoilers!
The Writing Style
Again, the narrative is in a choppy, odd, staccato prose that the reader will either enjoy or despise. I personally think it works for this series of books, but there were a few times I arched an eyebrow. Odd random facts are delivered, such as what brand someone is wearing, for no obvious reason. Since the writing-style doesn't lend itself to being overly descriptive, a few moments like this were a little jarring.
The Plot
Like the previous book, the plot is really simplistic and nothing real original. It's fairly easy to see where things are going with the investigation our two heroes are involved in and the execution wasn't too mind-blowing. The scene at the party (don't want to give too much away) was really well done and I was on pins and needles. I've been slipped a date rape drug before (thank God my future husband and best friend were with me and saved me) and the descriptions of what Janie suffers were spot on.
The part of the story I enjoyed the most was Janie discovering more about her powers and the ill-effects of her ability to enter other people's dreams. Janie's life is not a very happy one. Her mother has obviously abandoned her for the bottle, leaving her to her own devices, and Janie has high-aspirations for herself. What she discovers is truly terrifying because it could alter her life and world forever.
The Characters
The relationship between Janie and Caleb was very realistic, if not annoying at times. They are very broken people and only teenagers. They both make huge mistakes, but it felt very real.
Janie definitely matures in this book while Caleb suffers a setback. That unevenness between them is the cause of a lot of their troubles, but they are a couple I can believe in and root for.
Overall
A solid continuation of the first story, yet it was not as intense as the first. A lot of the discoveries in the story take place at the very end leaving a lot of time where not a lot really happens. Yet, I'm still on board for the third and final book in the trilogy.
Beware Spoilers!
The Writing Style
Again, the narrative is in a choppy, odd, staccato prose that the reader will either enjoy or despise. I personally think it works for this series of books, but there were a few times I arched an eyebrow. Odd random facts are delivered, such as what brand someone is wearing, for no obvious reason. Since the writing-style doesn't lend itself to being overly descriptive, a few moments like this were a little jarring.
The Plot
Like the previous book, the plot is really simplistic and nothing real original. It's fairly easy to see where things are going with the investigation our two heroes are involved in and the execution wasn't too mind-blowing. The scene at the party (don't want to give too much away) was really well done and I was on pins and needles. I've been slipped a date rape drug before (thank God my future husband and best friend were with me and saved me) and the descriptions of what Janie suffers were spot on.
The part of the story I enjoyed the most was Janie discovering more about her powers and the ill-effects of her ability to enter other people's dreams. Janie's life is not a very happy one. Her mother has obviously abandoned her for the bottle, leaving her to her own devices, and Janie has high-aspirations for herself. What she discovers is truly terrifying because it could alter her life and world forever.
The Characters
The relationship between Janie and Caleb was very realistic, if not annoying at times. They are very broken people and only teenagers. They both make huge mistakes, but it felt very real.
Janie definitely matures in this book while Caleb suffers a setback. That unevenness between them is the cause of a lot of their troubles, but they are a couple I can believe in and root for.
Overall
A solid continuation of the first story, yet it was not as intense as the first. A lot of the discoveries in the story take place at the very end leaving a lot of time where not a lot really happens. Yet, I'm still on board for the third and final book in the trilogy.
May 10, 2018
Just like Wake, ( the first book in the trilogy ) Fade did not disappoint! I loved the route Janie and Cable’s relationship took. I love Janie as a character and I feel like Cable is a great supporting character as well. They kind of just “vibe” and it shows through Lisa McMann’s writing! I’m anxious to see how “Gone” wraps up this trilogy! What will ultimately be the consequences and what price will Janie have to pay for something she can’t even control? I’m scared, I’m anxious, but I’m excited!
I gave it 3 stars because at times the story took a slower pace and at other times it feels like I was crammed with information so thick it was hard to dissolve it all.
Lisa McMann is a great author, but I feel her pacing can sometimes be a bit off. Maybe start the race off at a decent pace rather than a sprint, because by the end, the story does slows down a little bit.
Over all it was a unique read. I love the concept of it. The writing style is hard to get used to at first, but once you’re accustomed to it, you begin to actually enjoy the way it’s written.
3 out of 5 stars from me 😊
I gave it 3 stars because at times the story took a slower pace and at other times it feels like I was crammed with information so thick it was hard to dissolve it all.
Lisa McMann is a great author, but I feel her pacing can sometimes be a bit off. Maybe start the race off at a decent pace rather than a sprint, because by the end, the story does slows down a little bit.
Over all it was a unique read. I love the concept of it. The writing style is hard to get used to at first, but once you’re accustomed to it, you begin to actually enjoy the way it’s written.
3 out of 5 stars from me 😊
April 7, 2009
"Fade" continues the story begun in "Wake" and if you try reading this one first, you're likely to be a little confused.
In "Wake," we met Janie, a girl with the ability to be a dream-catcher. This means she can enter other people's dreams. "Wake" was about Janie coming to terms with her new power. "Fade" is concerned with Janie learning the responsible use of her power and the consequences of being a dream-catcher. It sets up things for a third and final installment of the series that, quite frankly, can't come soon enough for my liking.
Also in "Fade" we find Janie working undercover to find a sexual predator at her high school. Janie's work, and the toll is takes on her new-found relationship with fellow undercover informant Caleb, drive much of the narrative of the story.
As with "Wake," McCann writes in short sentences that help power the story forward. The novel has a dreamlike quality to it that helps draw in the reader and really allows us to experience from Janie's persepctive. While the story is told in the third-person, the narrative focus never shifts from Janie. That helps the reader identity with the joys, fears and frustration Janie feels as the novel unfolds.
In "Wake," we met Janie, a girl with the ability to be a dream-catcher. This means she can enter other people's dreams. "Wake" was about Janie coming to terms with her new power. "Fade" is concerned with Janie learning the responsible use of her power and the consequences of being a dream-catcher. It sets up things for a third and final installment of the series that, quite frankly, can't come soon enough for my liking.
Also in "Fade" we find Janie working undercover to find a sexual predator at her high school. Janie's work, and the toll is takes on her new-found relationship with fellow undercover informant Caleb, drive much of the narrative of the story.
As with "Wake," McCann writes in short sentences that help power the story forward. The novel has a dreamlike quality to it that helps draw in the reader and really allows us to experience from Janie's persepctive. While the story is told in the third-person, the narrative focus never shifts from Janie. That helps the reader identity with the joys, fears and frustration Janie feels as the novel unfolds.
November 17, 2012
Reviewed by Randstostipher "tallnlankyrn" Nguyen for TeensReadToo.com
As one case closes another one opens. Janie Hannagan returns, this time using her abilities of being swept into a person's dreams to solve a sex scandal at her school.
Several calls have been made on Fieldridge High School's anonymous phone line. Although inaudible at times, the messages result in the assumption that certain faculty members and students at Fieldridge have been fooling around. So Captain and her agents use their closest resources to try and crack the case, meaning Janie and Cabel will have to figure out what is going on. Objection at first by Cabel, but Janie gives the final decision and both are on the case.
While the investigation continues, Janie is given the chance to finally see what lies ahead for her. Hardly given any information about her ability, Captain gives Janie a box full of papers written by Martha Stubin that not only contains her secrets and past, but the positive and negative effects of helping others with their dreams. Although she may have a clue with what these effects are, Janie isn't so sure she is ready to confirm what she already knows.
With the intensity of the case and her outcome, Cabel isn't so sure he can handle the danger that Janie puts herself in, and their relationship begins to weaken. Will they be able to get through this case peacefully or will it tear them apart?
As a highly anticipated sequel to WAKE, FADE certainly lives up to expectations. Along with Janie, readers will be able to delve deeper into the enormity of Janie's ability and the strain that it causes not only on her but also on Cabel.
The simplicity of the writing and the creativity of the plot will leave an imprint of the reader, causing it to never FADE from their mind.
As one case closes another one opens. Janie Hannagan returns, this time using her abilities of being swept into a person's dreams to solve a sex scandal at her school.
Several calls have been made on Fieldridge High School's anonymous phone line. Although inaudible at times, the messages result in the assumption that certain faculty members and students at Fieldridge have been fooling around. So Captain and her agents use their closest resources to try and crack the case, meaning Janie and Cabel will have to figure out what is going on. Objection at first by Cabel, but Janie gives the final decision and both are on the case.
While the investigation continues, Janie is given the chance to finally see what lies ahead for her. Hardly given any information about her ability, Captain gives Janie a box full of papers written by Martha Stubin that not only contains her secrets and past, but the positive and negative effects of helping others with their dreams. Although she may have a clue with what these effects are, Janie isn't so sure she is ready to confirm what she already knows.
With the intensity of the case and her outcome, Cabel isn't so sure he can handle the danger that Janie puts herself in, and their relationship begins to weaken. Will they be able to get through this case peacefully or will it tear them apart?
As a highly anticipated sequel to WAKE, FADE certainly lives up to expectations. Along with Janie, readers will be able to delve deeper into the enormity of Janie's ability and the strain that it causes not only on her but also on Cabel.
The simplicity of the writing and the creativity of the plot will leave an imprint of the reader, causing it to never FADE from their mind.
February 2, 2018
*re-read
February 27, 2015
Like with the first book of this series, I read Fade in a matter of hours. Fade is the second book in Lisa McMann's Wake Trilogy and just as good as the first one.
In Fade, Janie learns more about her dream catching abilities. She works with the cops, undercover, with her boyfriend Cabel. In the last book, they work together to bust a drug dealer, but in this novel, Captain wants their help in busting a sexual predator in their school. Using Janie as bait. Let's just say that Cabel does not approve of Janie's decision to act as the bait. In the end, they discover that her Chem 2, Psychology, and PE teachers are all sexual predators and Captain has them arrested. However, in the glory of the bust, Cabe and Janie go through a rough patch. In the end, though, they work it out and decide to go through their problems as they come.
Again, I loved Cabel's character. I understood his apprehension about Janie's situation, not only because it was a dangerous one, but because of all the loss he has faced in his life. He was, at times, overprotective of her, but that was, again, understandable. I didn't appreciate him practically bolting after they busted the teachers, but I was glad when he finally talked to her about what was doing with him. Despite that, though, I couldn't get over how much of a cutie he was and how much I loved him still.
Janie was an even more interesting character in this book. She has developed since her time in Wake. I was interested in learning more about her powers and was glad when she finally read that green notebook. It seemed like she was constantly yelling at Cabe in this book, though, and I didn't really appreciate that. When they worked out their stuff, though, at the end, I was glad she stood up to him and demanded to know why he was pushing her away.
I hated when Janie had the GHB in here. That was the worst part for me because of everything that happened with the teachers when she was under the influence of the date-rape drug.
One thing that was particularly satisfying: Janie and Cabel finally had sex. I was glad they finally did The Deed because, both in Wake and Fade, there was allll kinds of pent up sexual tension that needed to be taken care of and let out.
Again, I lovelovelove this book and eagerly await the time when I get my hands on Gone, the third book in the trilogy, even though I'll be very sad to see the trilogy end.
In Fade, Janie learns more about her dream catching abilities. She works with the cops, undercover, with her boyfriend Cabel. In the last book, they work together to bust a drug dealer, but in this novel, Captain wants their help in busting a sexual predator in their school. Using Janie as bait. Let's just say that Cabel does not approve of Janie's decision to act as the bait. In the end, they discover that her Chem 2, Psychology, and PE teachers are all sexual predators and Captain has them arrested. However, in the glory of the bust, Cabe and Janie go through a rough patch. In the end, though, they work it out and decide to go through their problems as they come.
Again, I loved Cabel's character. I understood his apprehension about Janie's situation, not only because it was a dangerous one, but because of all the loss he has faced in his life. He was, at times, overprotective of her, but that was, again, understandable. I didn't appreciate him practically bolting after they busted the teachers, but I was glad when he finally talked to her about what was doing with him. Despite that, though, I couldn't get over how much of a cutie he was and how much I loved him still.
Janie was an even more interesting character in this book. She has developed since her time in Wake. I was interested in learning more about her powers and was glad when she finally read that green notebook. It seemed like she was constantly yelling at Cabe in this book, though, and I didn't really appreciate that. When they worked out their stuff, though, at the end, I was glad she stood up to him and demanded to know why he was pushing her away.
I hated when Janie had the GHB in here. That was the worst part for me because of everything that happened with the teachers when she was under the influence of the date-rape drug.
One thing that was particularly satisfying: Janie and Cabel finally had sex. I was glad they finally did The Deed because, both in Wake and Fade, there was allll kinds of pent up sexual tension that needed to be taken care of and let out.
Again, I lovelovelove this book and eagerly await the time when I get my hands on Gone, the third book in the trilogy, even though I'll be very sad to see the trilogy end.
This entire review has been hidden because of spoilers.
May 17, 2012
Okay, so I liked this one a tad more than I liked Wake. But only because it actually had some semblance of a plot and the writing was a bit tighter.
If only the plot wasn’t so fucking ridiculous and outlandish. I get that this is a paranormal book, so some disbelief is required, but it is just so far removed from reality.
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And there was no suspense. McMann really needs to learn how to employ a red-herring every now and again. It got to the point where I thought the actual bad guy was the red-herring just because it was so boringly and straight-forwardly him.
And Janie and Cabel need to take a chill pill. My God, you would think with all their responsibilities they would be a little less moody. Well, at least there isn’t a love triangle.
I am not exactly looking forward to the final one.
If only the plot wasn’t so fucking ridiculous and outlandish. I get that this is a paranormal book, so some disbelief is required, but it is just so far removed from reality.
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And there was no suspense. McMann really needs to learn how to employ a red-herring every now and again. It got to the point where I thought the actual bad guy was the red-herring just because it was so boringly and straight-forwardly him.
And Janie and Cabel need to take a chill pill. My God, you would think with all their responsibilities they would be a little less moody. Well, at least there isn’t a love triangle.
I am not exactly looking forward to the final one.
May 2, 2010
I thoroughly loved this book.
In Fade we see the action and suspense pick up a little more as Cabel and Jennie track down a sexual predator.
The relationship between these two misfits is one of the sweetest I've ever read.
I don't think I'll be able to bring myself to read Gone considering how many are so completely unsatisfied with it, but as it is, Wake and Fade are brilliant.
In Fade we see the action and suspense pick up a little more as Cabel and Jennie track down a sexual predator.
The relationship between these two misfits is one of the sweetest I've ever read.
I don't think I'll be able to bring myself to read Gone considering how many are so completely unsatisfied with it, but as it is, Wake and Fade are brilliant.
April 29, 2020
TW: sexual assault
I feel like the first rule of any type of media is that unless sexual assault or rape is integral to the story, don’t do it.
The first book of the trilogy, Wake was by no means good but I was enthralled by how hilariously bad it was. Fade picks up where it leaves off after we find out that 17 year old Janie is now a dream catching narc. The 1st books case centred on illegal alcohol distribution and based on the language, I’m assuming was aimed at a younger teen audience. Fade’s case is about a teacher pedo ring date raping students.
I’m not saying you can’t write about that, some of my highest rated books deal with sexual assault. If it’s in your story and you choose to portray it, it needs to be the focus.
Fade uses date rape to show of how over protective Cabe is and chooses to show Janie getting assaulted so we can watch her be a badass and fight her way out of it despite being drugged. “We need more girls like you” we’re told pages after hearing about the other girls who didn’t fight their way through powerful drugs the night before. After being made aware that Janie was given free self defence classes to prepare her for the date rape speculated party she was inviting other teenager girls too.
Fade is quick to make sure you know Janie was not raped, only sexually assaulted and she’s relieved because she worries that Cabe would stop loving her if she had been. Instead of dealing with how heart breaking that mentality is, Cabel decides to start ignoring Janie until the last literal 10 pages of the book. When they inevitably make up Cabe reveals that the ordeal made him realize that Janie COULD be raped and that would inevitably change her and he wouldn’t be able to deal with that and instead of being like “wait but you wouldn’t seriously have broken up with me for real if I had mental trauma from that, right? Also it was a massive dick move to ignore me for weeks after I was sexually assulted” Janie instantly says she loves him.
To cap off somehow redeeming Cabel, Janie opens up about discovering that she’ll likely go blind in 5ish years and lose mother function in her hands in 15. It is totally valid to be worried about how something like that will change your life. It is not valid to use the potential of disability to try and make Cabel seem like a hero for saying he’d still love her even if she was blind because 99.999999% of human beings would obviously make the same choice unless the only thing they loved about the other person was how hot that person thought they looked and how frequently they checked them out. Which honestly could be the case here, so I guess I get why Janie was worried.
I feel like the first rule of any type of media is that unless sexual assault or rape is integral to the story, don’t do it.
The first book of the trilogy, Wake was by no means good but I was enthralled by how hilariously bad it was. Fade picks up where it leaves off after we find out that 17 year old Janie is now a dream catching narc. The 1st books case centred on illegal alcohol distribution and based on the language, I’m assuming was aimed at a younger teen audience. Fade’s case is about a teacher pedo ring date raping students.
I’m not saying you can’t write about that, some of my highest rated books deal with sexual assault. If it’s in your story and you choose to portray it, it needs to be the focus.
Fade uses date rape to show of how over protective Cabe is and chooses to show Janie getting assaulted so we can watch her be a badass and fight her way out of it despite being drugged. “We need more girls like you” we’re told pages after hearing about the other girls who didn’t fight their way through powerful drugs the night before. After being made aware that Janie was given free self defence classes to prepare her for the date rape speculated party she was inviting other teenager girls too.
Fade is quick to make sure you know Janie was not raped, only sexually assaulted and she’s relieved because she worries that Cabe would stop loving her if she had been. Instead of dealing with how heart breaking that mentality is, Cabel decides to start ignoring Janie until the last literal 10 pages of the book. When they inevitably make up Cabe reveals that the ordeal made him realize that Janie COULD be raped and that would inevitably change her and he wouldn’t be able to deal with that and instead of being like “wait but you wouldn’t seriously have broken up with me for real if I had mental trauma from that, right? Also it was a massive dick move to ignore me for weeks after I was sexually assulted” Janie instantly says she loves him.
To cap off somehow redeeming Cabel, Janie opens up about discovering that she’ll likely go blind in 5ish years and lose mother function in her hands in 15. It is totally valid to be worried about how something like that will change your life. It is not valid to use the potential of disability to try and make Cabel seem like a hero for saying he’d still love her even if she was blind because 99.999999% of human beings would obviously make the same choice unless the only thing they loved about the other person was how hot that person thought they looked and how frequently they checked them out. Which honestly could be the case here, so I guess I get why Janie was worried.
September 12, 2023
4/5
Date Reviewed: 2 September 2017
This Review was first posted on It’s All Anthony. For more reviews, check out the blog here.
It is funny how it took me just about a year to pick up the series again and finish it. If you do not remember, my first ever review was Wake in this very series. Since it has been a long time, I had to go back to the original book, flip through it and try to remember what happened. I remembered the writing style the most, but I did not remember what exactly happened. Luckily enough, the second book was kind enough to let me know what happened again and I was back on track.
In Fade, Janie has to figure out who is behind the disturbing claims that is happening at her school. Janie starts to notice things between people at the school and when she stumbles upon a dream, everything links together and a lead has formed.
If you do not remember the writing style, let me remind you. In my last review, I called it almost “script-like.” After a couple of chapters, you get used to the writing as the writing is quickly paced and go through many chapters in a fair amount of time. Also, the books are short, so it makes a quick read anyways.
I was hoping to get more action and information on the dreams that Janie experiences and I am glad that it delivered. McMann was able to incorporate dreams in the story and investigation much better and for once, the dreams had a sense of purpose. As the story progressed, Janie is also given a stack of information about her abilities what can become of her. This finally gave some depth to the overall story and something to look forward to.
This book was a nice, progressive story after the first book and has been so much better. I’m glad that this book exceeded my expectations and I only hope that the last book in the series will be a grand finale at the rate this is going.
Date Reviewed: 2 September 2017
This Review was first posted on It’s All Anthony. For more reviews, check out the blog here.
It is funny how it took me just about a year to pick up the series again and finish it. If you do not remember, my first ever review was Wake in this very series. Since it has been a long time, I had to go back to the original book, flip through it and try to remember what happened. I remembered the writing style the most, but I did not remember what exactly happened. Luckily enough, the second book was kind enough to let me know what happened again and I was back on track.
In Fade, Janie has to figure out who is behind the disturbing claims that is happening at her school. Janie starts to notice things between people at the school and when she stumbles upon a dream, everything links together and a lead has formed.
If you do not remember the writing style, let me remind you. In my last review, I called it almost “script-like.” After a couple of chapters, you get used to the writing as the writing is quickly paced and go through many chapters in a fair amount of time. Also, the books are short, so it makes a quick read anyways.
I was hoping to get more action and information on the dreams that Janie experiences and I am glad that it delivered. McMann was able to incorporate dreams in the story and investigation much better and for once, the dreams had a sense of purpose. As the story progressed, Janie is also given a stack of information about her abilities what can become of her. This finally gave some depth to the overall story and something to look forward to.
This book was a nice, progressive story after the first book and has been so much better. I’m glad that this book exceeded my expectations and I only hope that the last book in the series will be a grand finale at the rate this is going.
October 23, 2008
You should read WAKE before you pick up FADE. You’ll understand the story much better.
My review may be a little vague, but I don’t want to give away any SPOILERS for WAKE.
Janie still has a difficult life. Her mother still drinks and hides in her bedroom to the extent that she doesn’t have any interest in what Janie does. Janie is the adult in house - making sure there are groceries in the house and taking care of the other day to day household chores.
The one bright spot in her life is Cabel. She depends on him to support her through the terrible side effects of the dreams - other peoples’ dreams that she is sucked into. On the bright side, Janie is learning how to control her dream experiences with unexpected help from Mrs. Stubin.
Janie has had Winter Break to relax, but now that school is starting again she’ll have to get involved more deeply than she ever has before. Her relationship with Cabel becomes strained, she finds herself in dangerous situations, and her body begins to suffer the effects of her dream catching. FADE is a suspenseful ride. Lisa McMann keeps you guessing from beginning to end and learning more about the process of dream catching adds a lot to the story.
The third book in the series is titled GONE and it is sure to be a winner based on WAKE and FADE. GONE will be released February of 2009.
My review may be a little vague, but I don’t want to give away any SPOILERS for WAKE.
Janie still has a difficult life. Her mother still drinks and hides in her bedroom to the extent that she doesn’t have any interest in what Janie does. Janie is the adult in house - making sure there are groceries in the house and taking care of the other day to day household chores.
The one bright spot in her life is Cabel. She depends on him to support her through the terrible side effects of the dreams - other peoples’ dreams that she is sucked into. On the bright side, Janie is learning how to control her dream experiences with unexpected help from Mrs. Stubin.
Janie has had Winter Break to relax, but now that school is starting again she’ll have to get involved more deeply than she ever has before. Her relationship with Cabel becomes strained, she finds herself in dangerous situations, and her body begins to suffer the effects of her dream catching. FADE is a suspenseful ride. Lisa McMann keeps you guessing from beginning to end and learning more about the process of dream catching adds a lot to the story.
The third book in the series is titled GONE and it is sure to be a winner based on WAKE and FADE. GONE will be released February of 2009.
February 22, 2009
This sequel to McMann's young adult novel "Wake" improves on the former with more focused prose and more attention given to the budding romance between "dream catcher" Janie and her narc-in-hiding boyfriend, Cabel. If there's a third wheel to this relationship, it's the couple's employer, Police Captain Fran Komisky, who serves on occasion as surrogate parental figure and relationship counselor, providing all the well intentioned tough-love you can stand.
The plot itself is fairly uncomplicated but, as with many police novels, only half the enjoyment comes from solving a crime; most readers stick with a series to follow the progress (or decline) of the central characters, and again this is where McMann's novel excels. It has an interesting premise, with sympathetic (if typically dysfunctional) central characters, and the stories are set cleverly amid the emotional turbulence and self-discovery of adolescence.
If there's anything to wish for with this new series, it would be to expand the net of experiences and characters. The life and crimes of Fieldridge High are entertaining, but McMann has created a cast that could easily swim in larger seas, and, while they're out there, go up against some better sharks.
The plot itself is fairly uncomplicated but, as with many police novels, only half the enjoyment comes from solving a crime; most readers stick with a series to follow the progress (or decline) of the central characters, and again this is where McMann's novel excels. It has an interesting premise, with sympathetic (if typically dysfunctional) central characters, and the stories are set cleverly amid the emotional turbulence and self-discovery of adolescence.
If there's anything to wish for with this new series, it would be to expand the net of experiences and characters. The life and crimes of Fieldridge High are entertaining, but McMann has created a cast that could easily swim in larger seas, and, while they're out there, go up against some better sharks.
March 17, 2012
Great and fast read!
October 16, 2022
En realidad 3,5⭐️ estoy disfrutando mucho esta trilogía. Lectura sencilla y ligera que me ha durado dos tardes literalmente.
October 21, 2017
This is getting progressively worse. I think I will pass on volume 3.
May 10, 2020
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Listen, there's something about this series that somehow engages me and frustrates me. It's smart, fast, filled with intrigue and driven by its central mystery. But, it also feels underdeveloped in all definitions of the word. Wake had this spark to it that felt as though it could be developed to take so many turns, but it felt like it just... didn't.
And while Fade is the superior novel in the series (so far, at least) it still is lacking certain developed plotlines and world-building. The little to no context about Janie's power leaves so much to be desired and no amount of engaging mysteries or snark dialogue can change that. This is what is preventing me from rating Fade as a five star book.
Despite everything, Fade is a solid mystery that will tug at your heart strings just as easily as it will fill you with unease. Twined with more supernatural elements Fade feels not unlike a classic Veronica Mars episode. With a solid mystery at its core, our little dream-hopper has more than just school and romance on her plate--she's out to hunt a potential predator... or two.
What I liked about Fade was simple: it was easy to slip into. Once I started, I knew I had to see it all unravel in real time. As Janie dove deeper and deeper into her school's potentially murky past, we see new levels of growth and strength begin to form when compared to Wake. Part of me wanted to wrap her up in a blanket, yell, 'she's just a kid!' and take her out of every tricky and dangerous scenario she found herself in throughout Fade--the other part of me really admired the tenacity and wit she was able to possess throughout.
Fade, too, set the groundwork for heartbreak in various ways that made the angst feel slightly different from its predecessor. Ultimately, the central mystery at hand is what made Fade so engrossing to me.
Listen, there's something about this series that somehow engages me and frustrates me. It's smart, fast, filled with intrigue and driven by its central mystery. But, it also feels underdeveloped in all definitions of the word. Wake had this spark to it that felt as though it could be developed to take so many turns, but it felt like it just... didn't.
And while Fade is the superior novel in the series (so far, at least) it still is lacking certain developed plotlines and world-building. The little to no context about Janie's power leaves so much to be desired and no amount of engaging mysteries or snark dialogue can change that. This is what is preventing me from rating Fade as a five star book.
Despite everything, Fade is a solid mystery that will tug at your heart strings just as easily as it will fill you with unease. Twined with more supernatural elements Fade feels not unlike a classic Veronica Mars episode. With a solid mystery at its core, our little dream-hopper has more than just school and romance on her plate--she's out to hunt a potential predator... or two.
What I liked about Fade was simple: it was easy to slip into. Once I started, I knew I had to see it all unravel in real time. As Janie dove deeper and deeper into her school's potentially murky past, we see new levels of growth and strength begin to form when compared to Wake. Part of me wanted to wrap her up in a blanket, yell, 'she's just a kid!' and take her out of every tricky and dangerous scenario she found herself in throughout Fade--the other part of me really admired the tenacity and wit she was able to possess throughout.
Fade, too, set the groundwork for heartbreak in various ways that made the angst feel slightly different from its predecessor. Ultimately, the central mystery at hand is what made Fade so engrossing to me.
March 30, 2011
The Good:
*I loved the little unfinished sentences. That really made the book for me.
*Cable is just a doll and if it were up to me he'd be played by Reid Ewing http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2938641/
*I liked the storyline of this book
*The green notebook explained everything I wanted to know
*And I'm actually pretty curious about the next book
The Bad:
There was lip gloss
*There were geek glasses
*Too much cussing
*Belly condom wrappers
*I had trouble paying attention at parts
*It was like Nancy Drew but with bean bag sex
The Wiggity Wack:
I keep being reminded of Nightmare on Elm Street.
Think about it....
Freddy Kruegar was a sexual predator with a knife fingered glove, who got burned in the boiler room, had a ton of bumpy ugly scars all over him, and went into dreams.
Dark Fallen and I have a theory. The next book is soo going to have to take place in a sleep clinic because that's what the third movie is about. I'm very curious to see if we are right.
*I loved the little unfinished sentences. That really made the book for me.
*Cable is just a doll and if it were up to me he'd be played by Reid Ewing http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2938641/
*I liked the storyline of this book
*The green notebook explained everything I wanted to know
*And I'm actually pretty curious about the next book
The Bad:
There was lip gloss
*There were geek glasses
*Too much cussing
*Belly condom wrappers
*I had trouble paying attention at parts
*It was like Nancy Drew but with bean bag sex
The Wiggity Wack:
I keep being reminded of Nightmare on Elm Street.
Think about it....
Freddy Kruegar was a sexual predator with a knife fingered glove, who got burned in the boiler room, had a ton of bumpy ugly scars all over him, and went into dreams.
Dark Fallen and I have a theory. The next book is soo going to have to take place in a sleep clinic because that's what the third movie is about. I'm very curious to see if we are right.
January 28, 2012
This was my review of Wake (to which Fade is a sequel):
"In some ways, this book reads like it was written by a very, very smart teenager on the older/more mature side, i.e. 17-18, has been in love, and experienced other kinds of deep vulnerability as well--basically like the book's heroine, perhaps in a few years or in a self-reflexive place.
It also reads like good fanfic, in the following ways:
a) written in close third-person present tense, which aligns quite well with the plot/story world's focus on dreams (in the sleeping rather than aspirational sense)
b) although it has a mystery/paranormal/romance plot, the prose lingers on character development and emotional and/or sensory experience.
The same goes for this book as well, which goes into even deeper and darker corners and crannies in the "main" plotline while also developing the beautiful--but never easy--relationship between the two leads, both of whom have been deeply hurt (but believe themselves "damaged," not necessarily the same thing).
"In some ways, this book reads like it was written by a very, very smart teenager on the older/more mature side, i.e. 17-18, has been in love, and experienced other kinds of deep vulnerability as well--basically like the book's heroine, perhaps in a few years or in a self-reflexive place.
It also reads like good fanfic, in the following ways:
a) written in close third-person present tense, which aligns quite well with the plot/story world's focus on dreams (in the sleeping rather than aspirational sense)
b) although it has a mystery/paranormal/romance plot, the prose lingers on character development and emotional and/or sensory experience.
The same goes for this book as well, which goes into even deeper and darker corners and crannies in the "main" plotline while also developing the beautiful--but never easy--relationship between the two leads, both of whom have been deeply hurt (but believe themselves "damaged," not necessarily the same thing).
August 19, 2011
Tam kıvamında bir kitaptı, yine değişik bir kurgu normal yaşantının zorluklarıyla harmanlanmış, bu da kitabı değerli yapan :))) Özellikle ilk kitaba göre rüya yakalayıcılığıyla ilgili daha fazla şey öğreniyoruz ve ne yalan söyleyeyim Janie'nin bundan sonra ne yapacağını çok merak ediyorum. Yazık kıza :/ Neyse umarım 3.kitabı çabuk okuruz :))
February 18, 2022
Janie tiene la habilidad (o el poder) de introducirse en los sueños de la gente, es una cazadora de sueños. En este segundo libro descubrimos más acerca del don-maldición de Janie y lo que le depara el futuro si sigue con su profesión de cazadora.
June 23, 2024
Esta segunda parte me ha quedado muy floja. Siento que iba leyendo y no pasaba nada; la historia no avanza hasta la página 100 donde empieza la acción. Es fácil de leer, con capítulos cortos marcados por los días y las horas que van transcurriendo. A veces falta un poco de conexión entre las escenas, pero es una historia fresca y ágil. A mí me ha faltado algo más intenso en la trama, hay algunos cabos sueltos en esta nueva misión, la relación entre Janie y Cabel es bonita y la verdad es que no me vi venir el giro del final. Esto sí que me sorprendió y ahora tengo ganas de saber como va a terminar.
August 13, 2022
jest ciekawiej, sceny na imprezie mna troche wstrzasnely, jakby ktos chcial przeczytac to daje duze tw o scenach zakrawajacych o zbiorowy gwalt.
cala wielka sprawa kryminalna byla dosc przewidywalna, ale w tej czesci jest przynajmniej jakis srodek i cos do czego dazy cala fabula
cala wielka sprawa kryminalna byla dosc przewidywalna, ale w tej czesci jest przynajmniej jakis srodek i cos do czego dazy cala fabula
May 14, 2024
4 stars
I read this one in one night too lol. I really liked it!
**this book talks about r*pe. If you or someone you know has gone through this you can call 1-800-656-4673 and they will help you**
I read this one in one night too lol. I really liked it!
**this book talks about r*pe. If you or someone you know has gone through this you can call 1-800-656-4673 and they will help you**
June 20, 2009
I read Wake about a month ago and finished Fade not long after, but I've been waiting to post my review. Unlike every other book blogger, I didn't love these books and I wanted to make sure I could express why.
Wake has an interesting premise, but it seems like all the dreams Janie falls into are sex dreams or nightmares that are memories. I thought this was an easy way out. It seemed too easy how the dreams were related to real life-where was the dream interpretation? The hiding spot for a drug bust is revealed in a dream?? That all seemed a little too easy. I know if Janie fell into one of my dreams, it wouldn't make any sense-so why do all these dreams seem to have some sort of answer to a puzzle?
I also wasn't a fan of the writing style. It was choppy, which yes, I understand is a way of expressing to the reader Janie's life, how it's stop and start and how tired the dream jumping makes Janie. Plus, I didn't like how I was told constantly "Janie sprints through the snowy yards..", "Janie is curious." "Janie wishes.." "Janie's vision returns slowly." It just seemed overdone and personally, I found it annoying.
As far as the dream-jumping/catching thing, nothing was really explained in Wake which really frustrated me. I felt it took a long time (after 100 pages in a 224 page book!) to really get the story going. Wake felt like I was watching a pilot of a TV show-the characters are still shaky, the acting isn't that great yet, the chemistry is still being learned-it was good, but its main job was to set up what could be great.
Now on to Fade. I liked this one better. It was longer, the story had more time to develop, and more was explained. Again, I found the mystery too easy and kind of silly and the whole side job thing that Janie and Cabel have going is just really corny to me. I like the relationship between Janie and Cabel and thought it was much better than the first one. Janie was such a strong character but then halfway through she was a whimpering girl who couldn't live without Cabel-it seemed somewhat out of character for her. At least in Fade she stays strong throughout, even if their relationship has a lot of communication problems. There were many times I wanted to yell at them for being so stupid and just talk to each other!
With all that said, don't think I didn't like these books. I did, I just didn't love them. The story was enough to keep me interested and keep reading-I was interested enough to finish both in one sitting each. I'm interested to see what happens next and I'm intrigued by Janie's dream catching, I just wish the mystery/crime solving aspect wasn't so easy. I think Lisa McMann is a talented writer, I'm just not a big fan of the style she's using in these books. Maybe I'm just not the right target audience since I'm not a teenager anymore. I would recommend these books and I think they'd be great for reluctant readers. I'll be reading the next one, but they're not going on my list of all time favorites.
(One last thing-my side tangent. I don't know why but I find it really obnoxious when characters who don't really know each other all that well or have hardly talked suddenly have a nickname for each other. Janie hardly had talked to Cabel and then suddenly on a school trip she calls him Cabe. This grates on my nerves-maybe because my name is too short to have a nickname so I'm jealous of these book characters? I don't know. Unrelated, but I also hated it in Breaking Dawn, when suddenly Rosalie, who had never really been a friend to Bella, was now Rose. UGH!)
Wake has an interesting premise, but it seems like all the dreams Janie falls into are sex dreams or nightmares that are memories. I thought this was an easy way out. It seemed too easy how the dreams were related to real life-where was the dream interpretation? The hiding spot for a drug bust is revealed in a dream?? That all seemed a little too easy. I know if Janie fell into one of my dreams, it wouldn't make any sense-so why do all these dreams seem to have some sort of answer to a puzzle?
I also wasn't a fan of the writing style. It was choppy, which yes, I understand is a way of expressing to the reader Janie's life, how it's stop and start and how tired the dream jumping makes Janie. Plus, I didn't like how I was told constantly "Janie sprints through the snowy yards..", "Janie is curious." "Janie wishes.." "Janie's vision returns slowly." It just seemed overdone and personally, I found it annoying.
As far as the dream-jumping/catching thing, nothing was really explained in Wake which really frustrated me. I felt it took a long time (after 100 pages in a 224 page book!) to really get the story going. Wake felt like I was watching a pilot of a TV show-the characters are still shaky, the acting isn't that great yet, the chemistry is still being learned-it was good, but its main job was to set up what could be great.
Now on to Fade. I liked this one better. It was longer, the story had more time to develop, and more was explained. Again, I found the mystery too easy and kind of silly and the whole side job thing that Janie and Cabel have going is just really corny to me. I like the relationship between Janie and Cabel and thought it was much better than the first one. Janie was such a strong character but then halfway through she was a whimpering girl who couldn't live without Cabel-it seemed somewhat out of character for her. At least in Fade she stays strong throughout, even if their relationship has a lot of communication problems. There were many times I wanted to yell at them for being so stupid and just talk to each other!
With all that said, don't think I didn't like these books. I did, I just didn't love them. The story was enough to keep me interested and keep reading-I was interested enough to finish both in one sitting each. I'm interested to see what happens next and I'm intrigued by Janie's dream catching, I just wish the mystery/crime solving aspect wasn't so easy. I think Lisa McMann is a talented writer, I'm just not a big fan of the style she's using in these books. Maybe I'm just not the right target audience since I'm not a teenager anymore. I would recommend these books and I think they'd be great for reluctant readers. I'll be reading the next one, but they're not going on my list of all time favorites.
(One last thing-my side tangent. I don't know why but I find it really obnoxious when characters who don't really know each other all that well or have hardly talked suddenly have a nickname for each other. Janie hardly had talked to Cabel and then suddenly on a school trip she calls him Cabe. This grates on my nerves-maybe because my name is too short to have a nickname so I'm jealous of these book characters? I don't know. Unrelated, but I also hated it in Breaking Dawn, when suddenly Rosalie, who had never really been a friend to Bella, was now Rose. UGH!)
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