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Fire and the Staff: Lutheran Theology in Practice

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- Continues the tradition establshed by J. H. C. Fritz and C. F. W. Walther of fine works on practical ministry
- Shows pastors how to carry out ministry on the basis of confessionally Lutheran theological principles
- Stories and personal experience lend immediacy to the discussion
- Unique in its presentation and content

480 pages, Paperback

First published February 1, 2005

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Klemet I. Preus

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Profile Image for Luke.
471 reviews16 followers
September 17, 2014
Strong rebuke of American evangelicalism, revivalism and the Church Growth Movement. Doctrine follows practice, he strongly asserts, and it has a negative affect on the assurance of our faith. I agreed with a lot of what he said, and other parts I'll have to think about.
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19 reviews5 followers
September 10, 2012
Klemet Preus��� book, ���The Fire and the Staff,��� is about the basic idea that doctrine and practice have a reciprocal relationship. Obviously doctrine drives the church���s practice, but Preus argues that a change in practice can actually bleed back into doctrine and influence one���s theology.

More specifically Preus seems to narrow in towards the practices of Modern Evangelicalism that are displayed most visibly by many mega-churches in America. He discusses the historical background of these practices in order to show that many of these practices are not rooted in the divine scriptures, but rooted in methodologies that have sprung forth from certain time periods and contexts. Thus he makes the appeal that when a conservative confessional Lutheran church body incorporates a Modern Evangelicalism���s practice it is essentially and inadvertently introducing new theology into the parish and its statement of faith. In simplistic terms, Modern Evangelicalism has practices that are not derived from scripture, some that are essentially anti-sacramental and anti-monergistic. Therefore, when a confessional Lutheran church embraces one of these practices, not for theological reasons but for pragmatic reasons, it is then allowing the practice to bleed false truths back into the church���s theology. Preus argues rightly that practice and methodologies are not neutral. Practice contains theological presuppositions. If practices are changed, the doctrine will be changed. If doctrine is changed, practice will be changed.

The main thesis of Preus��� book is certainly true. Doctrine not only provides knowledge to one���s epistemological framework, but practice is also a source of knowledge for one���s epistemological framework as well. They are connected and it is vital for the church to understand this. Simply saying that form is neutral, while embracing different methodologies for pragmatic reasons, will certainly jeopardize the Lutheran church���s theology. This may also create an environment for an epistemological crisis or cognitive dissonance to occur for parishioners. Thus Preus��� book is one that every pastor should soberly consider.
Profile Image for Jim B.
880 reviews43 followers
August 26, 2014
I wanted to really love this book. The author writes in a fresh way and uses contemporary and personal illustrations. I have no doubt that there are Lutheran pastors and young people who love this book, which is about how what a church does (its "practice") has an affect on what you teach (its "doctrine")

For me, it got to be work to pick up this book. It's hard for me to put my finger on it. Matthew Harrison writes in a similar way, yet I never get tired of his joyful voice. This book seemed to be a fresh polemic for Lutheranism, and while I'm a Lutheran and agree with his viewpoint, I'm not into reading a polemic for my own viewpoint. I've kept the book for its vivid illustrations.
Profile Image for Barbara Ruuska.
104 reviews
April 5, 2025
This book isn't for everyone. As a confessional Lutheran, this book is the book that I should have read 15 years ago. I'm going to write a segment on each chapter. I'll still only be scratching the surface of the precious doctrine taught. At times, I laughed and I cried while reading this book.

I've been lost in "Lutheran" churches that have fallen away (ELCA) and churches that really don't want to be Lutheran (AALC). If you aren't sure where you are theologically, this book gives an excellent understanding of Lutheran theology in practice.

These are the notes that I've highlighted from the book. These are Rev. Preus' words.
Chapter 1 - Doctrine
"Ask yourself, whom would you rather have as your preacher? Would you like a pastor who believes that nothing he says about God could be 100 percent correct? Or would you like a pastor who believes that he speaks the truth of God?" (Page 45).
The marks of successful ministry are the Gospel (the Word), Baptism and Holy Communion. Doctrine belongs solely to God.

Chapter 2 - Justification
" . . . our righteousness before God consists in this, that God forgives us our sins by sheer grace, without any works, merit, or worthiness of our own, in the the past, at present, or in the future, that he gives us and reckons us to the righteousness of Christ's obedience and that, because of this righteousness, we are accepted by God into grace and regarded as righteous." (Page 59)

This is not something we "feel" in our heart. Our heart is a dark, evil place and our righteousness/justification comes from outside of us, from Jesus. "God imputes to us the righteousness of the obedience and death of Christ."

"Objective - something is analyzed and evaluated apart from its effect on you.
Subjective - something is analyzed and evaluated only as it affects you." (Page 64)
Whether in the liturgy or hymns, the objective truths of the Gospel is the most important aspect of worship. Not how it makes you feel.

Passive/Active Faith
We do nothing to get to heaven. "We are saved by faith alone, but faith is never alone. Good works always follow true saving faith. Faith is always accompanied by love and hope." (Page 75)
We are to follow God's Law through the three uses: curb, mirror and guide.

Chapter 3 - Word and Spirit
So many people mistakenly think that the Holy Spirit comes from somewhere inside of them. "The Holy Spirit is active wherever the Word of forgiveness in Christ is spoken. The Holy Spirit can be found only and always through the Word of Christ." (Page 79)

"There can be no wordless Spirit and there can be no Spiritless Word." (Page 82)

This entire chapter rightly explains how the Spirit works in (and only in) the Word.

Chapter 4 - Doctrine and Practice
This chapter is a good basic understanding of doctrine and practice. Explanation of Ordinaries (the same from week to week) and Propers (seasonal) parts of the Divine service. The service in all it's parts is catholic (the entire church). "When pastors or churches misuse, abuse, or don't use these catholic blessings, they are depriving themselves and their children of the undivided heritage that is ours by the grace and guidance of God." (Page 129)

Chapter 5 - Worship in the Lutheran Church
In this chapter we learn about the worship service and who is acting and who is talking and then who is acted upon and spoken to during the service. (Page 137)
Music is a key part of the divine worship and learning and memorizing solid Lutheran hymns can help you learn theology (Lutheran doctrine and practice) and share your Christian faith with others. "Salvation Unto Us Has Come" with all 14 stanzas became a central theme in this chapter and later in the book.

Chapter 6 - Good Works
Good works means we need to do something and act according to our vocation (station) in life. God doesn't need our good works but they help other people whether we want to do them or not and they are valued by Jesus Christ. (Page 187 and 211)

Chapter 7 - Word and Spirit Separated
People who say that they can find the Spirit outside of the Word are like bees "swarming" and making lots of noise but never really listening. (Page 213)
Here we get a good understanding that the only true way to receive the Spirit is through the Word.

Chapter 8 - The Excitement of American Christianity
Here we read about village and camp churches. The village church is steeped deep in the boundaries of doctrine and practice. The camp church is an emotionally charged venue with spontaneity and intense religious experiences. (Pages 249-250)
In defense of Closed Communion. The Nicene Creed, letters of transfer, church fellowship, and the pastor examining those who wish to commune. These are the practices that define Closed Communion. It is extremely unpopular, but we should not partake in communion if we only seem to agree on some points of doctrine but not all. (Page 266)
We all seem to want to be included at the Table (or Communion Rail) when we may not even understand or agree with what a church preaches, teaches or confesses.

Chapter 9 - The Dynamism of American Christianity
This chapter discusses what is or what it means to be a dynamic church. It is the Gospel that is dynamic and not the preacher or the people in the pews. What are the roles of men and women in the church. "Practice reflects doctrine. If we want to teach our doctrine, then we must be concerned about our practice." (Page 301)

Chapter 10 - American Worship Ideas
Dwight Moody - In the 1800's he developed some innovative ways to market/sell the church. Billy Graham carried Moody's innovation of the "altar call" into the 20th century. Go to church not to make yourself feel good, but to receive the forgiveness of sins. (Page 341)

Chapter 11 - Confessing the Faith
Here we have some guidelines for sharing our faith and a right understanding of worship. I've had my own experience with "[w]hen a congregation adopts practices that are completely different from those of other churches or when it rejects the stated doctrine of [their own church association], then that congregation is not acting like the royal priesthood. Rather, it is a group of renegade priests who seem to believe that they can do as they please." (Page 363)
"God never asks us to witness. He asks us to confess." (Page 391)
"Confess by pointing to Christ, by speaking back what you have learned, and with the church." (Page 389)
With the Bible and the Small Catechism we have the tools to help us learn how to confess the true doctrine of Christ.

Chapter 12 - Change in the church
"Five fundamental principles of change in the church are apparent in Luther's Wittenberg Sermons.
1. Change must be required by the Gospel.
2. The Word, not force, should effect change.
3. If it isn't broken, don't fix it.
4. Don't let yourself get pushed around.
5. Always yield to the weak." (Page 401)

"Change was required because the saving work of Christ was denied in the private sacrifices of the Mass. Change is always required when Christ is denied." (Page 403)

Remember that change is never easy and the bullies are the weakest ones in the congregation.

My husband and I recently joined an LC-MS congregation that does exactly this:
The Church is the congregation of saints, in which the Gospel is rightly taught and the Sacraments are rightly administered.

Amen!
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Profile Image for Sarah.
1,169 reviews4 followers
August 1, 2020
This book focuses on doctrine and practical theology in the Lutheran church.
Why should Lutheran churches stick to traditional liturgy? Why be cautious using praise songs for worship? What problems can arise when churches adopt the principles of the church growth movement?

Preus begins with a look at biblical doctrines and how those influenced (and still do) influence the practices of the church. Doctrine and worship are always intertwined, and when one is changed, the other will change too.

This is a long book, but worth the read if you are looking at an in-depth look of doctrine and practice in the Lutheran church.
Profile Image for Albert Meier.
200 reviews3 followers
January 27, 2019
Theology and Practice are related. What you believe informs how you worship and live. How you worship and live forms what you believe. Preus makes the case for an unapologetic use of historical Lutheran practice as a style that flows from the gospel and a style that proclaims and confesses the gospel. He avoids legalism or setting down rules, but is winsome as he demonstrates how such practices serve God's people and proclaim the saving truth to unbelievers in a superior way to methods and styles adopted from American Evangelicalism.
Profile Image for Laurie Sand.
415 reviews2 followers
April 16, 2018
My issue with this book is Preus's insistence that the truths of the Bible are self-evident. I simply cannot take his fixation on "pure doctrine" seriously when his basic argument is "The Bible is true because it says it's true, and anybody who talks about the Bible is automatically telling the truth." This is, to put it mildly, idiotic. Has this guy honestly never heard the term "circular argument"??
Profile Image for Richard Bicknase.
216 reviews8 followers
July 26, 2024
I'd give this 4.5 stars if that were an option.
The topic and core argument of the book is excellent and much needed. I have experienced first-hand the problems with a shift in mindset toward a more subjective thinking and practice that de-emphasizes doctrine, teaching, and the Sacraments.
I would take half a star off because of some of the illustrations used, but this doesn't take away from the fact it is a worthwhile and valuable read.
387 reviews
October 24, 2024
I read about half this book in a book club years ago, but I never finished it. This year, my church book club read it, and I did finish it. For the most part, this is a great book. We could quibble over a few examples he gives, especially in the last chapter, but let's not. Great book. Worth the read.
36 reviews
June 19, 2017
an excellent book on why we are Lutheran and should hold fast to what our forefathers taught. because it keeps us focused ever on Jesus
Profile Image for Matthew Richard.
18 reviews26 followers
September 10, 2012
Klemet Preus’ book, “The Fire and the Staff,” is about the basic idea that doctrine and practice have a reciprocal relationship. Obviously doctrine drives the church’s practice, but Preus argues that a change in practice can actually bleed back into doctrine and influence one’s theology.

More specifically Preus seems to narrow in towards the practices of Modern Evangelicalism that are displayed most visibly by many mega-churches in America. He discusses the historical background of these practices in order to show that many of these practices are not rooted in the divine scriptures, but rooted in methodologies that have sprung forth from certain time periods and contexts. Thus he makes the appeal that when a conservative confessional Lutheran church body incorporates a Modern Evangelicalism’s practice it is essentially and inadvertently introducing new theology into the parish and its statement of faith. In simplistic terms, Modern Evangelicalism has practices that are not derived from scripture, some that are essentially anti-sacramental and anti-monergistic. Therefore, when a confessional Lutheran church embraces one of these practices, not for theological reasons but for pragmatic reasons, it is then allowing the practice to bleed false truths back into the church’s theology. Preus argues rightly that practice and methodologies are not neutral. Practice contains theological presuppositions. If practices are changed, the doctrine will be changed. If doctrine is changed, practice will be changed.

The main thesis of Preus’ book is certainly true. Doctrine not only provides knowledge to one’s epistemological framework, but practice is also a source of knowledge for one’s epistemological framework as well. They are connected and it is vital for the church to understand this. Simply saying that form is neutral, while embracing different methodologies for pragmatic reasons, will certainly jeopardize the Lutheran church’s theology. This may also create an environment for an epistemological crisis or cognitive dissonance to occur for parishioners. Thus Preus’ book is one that every pastor should soberly consider.
Profile Image for Ben Weis.
148 reviews
January 25, 2018
Second read-through and much needed. What a fantastic reminder of why Lutherans believe what we believe and do what we do. In an age of blurring distinctions and subjectivity, we need to stand on our distinctive and historic beliefs and practices. The objective nature of the Gospel and the means by which God “bespeaks us righteous” tie directly into the historic liturgy and practices of the church.
9 reviews
December 20, 2007
Very good book explaining the importance of the relationship between Doctrine and practice. Klemet Preus provides an interesting read showing how the American Evangelical and Church Growth movements are leaking into the Lutheran Church and breaking the bond between Doctrine and practice.
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99 reviews
February 14, 2016
I found The Fire and the Staff, to be an enjoyable read. It ignited a desire in me to continue to study the Confession of the Church and it's doctrine. It has helped me understand where the Church Growth Movement came from and it has strengthen my stand on the practice of Church and it liturgy.
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495 reviews47 followers
November 4, 2010
Great great readon on Lutheran theology. Easy to understand and fun to read. I love his stories. He gets the point across without being boring.
237 reviews13 followers
September 7, 2014
Excellent book on Lutheran theology and the errors of the Church Growth Movement from a Lutheran perspective.
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