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Dive Deeper: Journeys with Moby-Dick
Herman Melville's epic tale of obsession has all the ingredients of a first rate drama--fascinating characters in solitude and society, battles between good and evil, a thrilling chase to the death--and yet its allusions, digressions, and sheer scope can prove daunting to even the most intrepid reader. George Cotkin's Dive Deeper provides both a guide to the novel and a record of its dazzling cultural train. It supplies easy-to-follow plot points for each of the novel's 135 sections before taking up a salient phrase, image, or idea in each for further exploration. Through these forays, Cotkin traces the astonishing reach of the novel, sighting the White Whale in mainstream and obscure subcultures alike, from impressionist painting circles to political terrorist cells. In a lively and engaging style, Dive Deeper immerses us into the depths of Melville's influence on the literature, film, and art of our modern world. Cotkin's playful wit and critical precision stretch from Camus to Led Zeppelin, from Emerson to Bob Dylan, and bring to life the terrors and wonders of what is arguably America's greatest novel.
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October 22, 2024
Moby-Dick In Breadth
When I learned of this new study of Melville's "Moby-Dick", "Dive Deeper: Journeys with Moby-Dick", by George Cotkin, I ordered it immediately. I was in the middle of rereading the novel. With its 135 short chapters each devoted to the corresponding chapter of "Moby-Dick" I thought the book would be useful as a running commentary. I became deeply involved in my rereading of the novel, however, and completed the lengthy book before Cotkin's study arrived in the mail. As it turned out, there was no loss because I had been somewhat mistaken in what I thought was the character of Cotkin's work.
Cotkin, Professor of History at California Polytechnic State University, has written extensively about American culture, including books about William James, American existentialism, and current American moral dilemmas. In "Dive Deeper" he writes simply and with contagious enthusiasm about Melville. In spite of the arrangement of his book to correspond to chapters of Melville, however, his book is far from a direct chapter-by-chapter analysis of the text. Instead, Cotkin's study is broad-ranging, digressive, and suggestive, much like the book it celebrates. It is better read on its own, as I did, rather than as an ongoing commentary to accompany a reading of "Moby-Dick".
The book parallels the arrangement of Melville's novel. It begins with a Prologue, follows with 135 named chapters, and ends with an Epilogue. The format of each chapter varies. In most cases, Cotkin begins with a paragraph with only the barest summary on what occurs in the corresponding chapter of the novel. Cotkin then uses each chapter as a springboard for a discussion of an aspect of "Moby-Dick" that in many instances is only loosely related to the text at hand. In the process, Cotkin offers a fascinating look at how "Moby-Dick" has been appropriated in American culture over the years. He frequently offers his own excellent insights into the novel.
Take for example chapter 48, titled "The First Lowering". In "Moby-Dick" this chapter tells of the first time in the Pequod's journey that the boats were lowered to the water to hunt a whale that had been spotted from the deck.
Cotkin doesn't say much more than this about the content of chapter 48. He uses the term "first lowering" creatively to refer to the first publication of "Moby-Dick" in 1851 in both Britain and the United States. His discussion in the chapter offers an overview of the early reception of the book in the reviews it received, positive, negative, and mixed on both shores of the Atlantic. It is a good parallel and worthwhile even if it is not novelistic criticism.
Some of Cotkin's chapters explore historical figures in Melville's book, which is in line with a traditional commentary. In chapter 124, "The Needle" Cotkin suggests, the fiery Commander Charles Wilkes, commander of the U.S. Exploring Expedition to Antarctica, as a possible model for Captain Ahab. For the most part, Cotkin discusses a procession of American critics, novelists, artists, musicians, actors, and others who have engaged with "Moby-Dick" and enriched understanding of the text or used it as a basis for their own original work. Several chapters discuss film versions of the novel, including director John Huston's famous 1956 movie. There are discussions of the lives and thoughts of Melville scholars including Richard Weaver, Lewis Mumford, Lawrence Thompson, and Charles Olson. I am familiar with some of this material and learned a great deal from Cotkin's treatment. I was glad to be reminded of Olson.
Cotkin discusses the way in which literary figures used Melville's text, with reference, for example to Albert Camus, Jack Kerouac, and, in an extended analysis, the American poet Hart Crane. Cotkin explores artistic reaction to Melville in the form of celebrated illustrations for various editions of "Moby-Dick" and a series of paintings by Frank Stella. He explores how the novel has inspired music, from opera and cantata, to Bob Dylan and rap. And Cotkin discusses recent novels which explore the world of Melville and his great book. Among other things, the book offers two references to boxing matches which had been analogized to the conflict between Ahab and the whale: Rocky Marciano-Archie Moore (1955) and the proposed match between Jack Dempsey/Primo Carnera from the 1930's.
Interspersed with his soundings of other writers and artists, Cotkin's offers his own observations on the text: "Melville created a world of symbols in Moby-Dick, and into this world we voyage. No less than Ahab, we attempt to harpoon meaning, to attach ourselves to this great bulk of a volume, its white pages teeming with signifiers of something." To take another example, Cotkin writes the following about Father Mapple's sermon in the ninth chapter of "Moby-Dick".
"Mapple's sermon, then, represents a vision of God as loving and forgiving. It may also be framed as absurd in content and in presentation, issuing forth from a ship's bow and flavored with the salty language of sailors in a church that sweats with bloody deaths. Melville might listen to this sermon and consider it a grand illusion, a sop to those living in a world that is apparently meaningless and obviously horrific."
I was excited by my recent rereading of "Moby-Dick" and thought I had understood more of the book than in my earlier readings. The novel is inexhaustible. Cotkin's book helped continue my excitement and made me want to think more about the book its multiple levels of meaning, and the art and novels that it has inspired. Cotkin covers much material in a short volume. The book thus has more breadth than depth. Even so, it shows the depth of Melville's thought. Melville's book is one of the few works of literature with power to transform readers. Cotkin's book encourages readers to explore Melville and to explore his injunction to his readers to "Dive Deeper".
Robin Friedman
When I learned of this new study of Melville's "Moby-Dick", "Dive Deeper: Journeys with Moby-Dick", by George Cotkin, I ordered it immediately. I was in the middle of rereading the novel. With its 135 short chapters each devoted to the corresponding chapter of "Moby-Dick" I thought the book would be useful as a running commentary. I became deeply involved in my rereading of the novel, however, and completed the lengthy book before Cotkin's study arrived in the mail. As it turned out, there was no loss because I had been somewhat mistaken in what I thought was the character of Cotkin's work.
Cotkin, Professor of History at California Polytechnic State University, has written extensively about American culture, including books about William James, American existentialism, and current American moral dilemmas. In "Dive Deeper" he writes simply and with contagious enthusiasm about Melville. In spite of the arrangement of his book to correspond to chapters of Melville, however, his book is far from a direct chapter-by-chapter analysis of the text. Instead, Cotkin's study is broad-ranging, digressive, and suggestive, much like the book it celebrates. It is better read on its own, as I did, rather than as an ongoing commentary to accompany a reading of "Moby-Dick".
The book parallels the arrangement of Melville's novel. It begins with a Prologue, follows with 135 named chapters, and ends with an Epilogue. The format of each chapter varies. In most cases, Cotkin begins with a paragraph with only the barest summary on what occurs in the corresponding chapter of the novel. Cotkin then uses each chapter as a springboard for a discussion of an aspect of "Moby-Dick" that in many instances is only loosely related to the text at hand. In the process, Cotkin offers a fascinating look at how "Moby-Dick" has been appropriated in American culture over the years. He frequently offers his own excellent insights into the novel.
Take for example chapter 48, titled "The First Lowering". In "Moby-Dick" this chapter tells of the first time in the Pequod's journey that the boats were lowered to the water to hunt a whale that had been spotted from the deck.
Cotkin doesn't say much more than this about the content of chapter 48. He uses the term "first lowering" creatively to refer to the first publication of "Moby-Dick" in 1851 in both Britain and the United States. His discussion in the chapter offers an overview of the early reception of the book in the reviews it received, positive, negative, and mixed on both shores of the Atlantic. It is a good parallel and worthwhile even if it is not novelistic criticism.
Some of Cotkin's chapters explore historical figures in Melville's book, which is in line with a traditional commentary. In chapter 124, "The Needle" Cotkin suggests, the fiery Commander Charles Wilkes, commander of the U.S. Exploring Expedition to Antarctica, as a possible model for Captain Ahab. For the most part, Cotkin discusses a procession of American critics, novelists, artists, musicians, actors, and others who have engaged with "Moby-Dick" and enriched understanding of the text or used it as a basis for their own original work. Several chapters discuss film versions of the novel, including director John Huston's famous 1956 movie. There are discussions of the lives and thoughts of Melville scholars including Richard Weaver, Lewis Mumford, Lawrence Thompson, and Charles Olson. I am familiar with some of this material and learned a great deal from Cotkin's treatment. I was glad to be reminded of Olson.
Cotkin discusses the way in which literary figures used Melville's text, with reference, for example to Albert Camus, Jack Kerouac, and, in an extended analysis, the American poet Hart Crane. Cotkin explores artistic reaction to Melville in the form of celebrated illustrations for various editions of "Moby-Dick" and a series of paintings by Frank Stella. He explores how the novel has inspired music, from opera and cantata, to Bob Dylan and rap. And Cotkin discusses recent novels which explore the world of Melville and his great book. Among other things, the book offers two references to boxing matches which had been analogized to the conflict between Ahab and the whale: Rocky Marciano-Archie Moore (1955) and the proposed match between Jack Dempsey/Primo Carnera from the 1930's.
Interspersed with his soundings of other writers and artists, Cotkin's offers his own observations on the text: "Melville created a world of symbols in Moby-Dick, and into this world we voyage. No less than Ahab, we attempt to harpoon meaning, to attach ourselves to this great bulk of a volume, its white pages teeming with signifiers of something." To take another example, Cotkin writes the following about Father Mapple's sermon in the ninth chapter of "Moby-Dick".
"Mapple's sermon, then, represents a vision of God as loving and forgiving. It may also be framed as absurd in content and in presentation, issuing forth from a ship's bow and flavored with the salty language of sailors in a church that sweats with bloody deaths. Melville might listen to this sermon and consider it a grand illusion, a sop to those living in a world that is apparently meaningless and obviously horrific."
I was excited by my recent rereading of "Moby-Dick" and thought I had understood more of the book than in my earlier readings. The novel is inexhaustible. Cotkin's book helped continue my excitement and made me want to think more about the book its multiple levels of meaning, and the art and novels that it has inspired. Cotkin covers much material in a short volume. The book thus has more breadth than depth. Even so, it shows the depth of Melville's thought. Melville's book is one of the few works of literature with power to transform readers. Cotkin's book encourages readers to explore Melville and to explore his injunction to his readers to "Dive Deeper".
Robin Friedman
October 20, 2014
Like its subject, this is a chowder of a book. Fortunately, I am very fond of chowder. Cooking hit on the brilliant idea of writing a chapter for each chapter in "Moby-Dick," sometimes explaining the chapter, but more often using it as a launching pad for a discussion of the book's reception, its offspring, Melville's life, Nantucket, whales, or anything else that will fit into the pot.
Often I did not agree with Cotkin's perspective, but I did enjoy his book, and I had great fun arguing with him. If you want to read Cotkin's, please read
"Moby-Dick" first.
Often I did not agree with Cotkin's perspective, but I did enjoy his book, and I had great fun arguing with him. If you want to read Cotkin's, please read
"Moby-Dick" first.
October 18, 2018
Each chapter in Cotkins' fun and accessible criticism addresses Moby-Dick through style, theme, or biographical and historical context. Though some points are brilliantly made, the connection with contemporary readers is off-putting and heavy-handed.
3.5 stars. I applaud the effort.
3.5 stars. I applaud the effort.
February 7, 2013
I don't think I need to add anything to the publisher's description (below.) This is a marvelous book. The topics are random and varied, tied loosely to each chapter of Moby-Dick, and provide insights into Melville's world and the themes within the novel as well as its influence on music, art, film, and literature since 1851.
Description: Herman Melville's epic tale of obsession has all the ingredients of a first rate drama--fascinating characters in solitude and society, battles between good and evil, a thrilling chase to the death--and yet its allusions, digressions, and sheer scope can prove daunting to even the most intrepid reader. George Cotkin's Dive Deeper provides both a guide to the novel and a record of its dazzling cultural train. It supplies easy-to-follow plot points for each of the novel's 135 sections before taking up a salient phrase, image, or idea in each for further exploration. Through these forays, Cotkin traces the astonishing reach of the novel, sighting the White Whale in mainstream and obscure subcultures alike, from impressionist painting circles to political terrorist cells. In a lively and engaging style, Dive Deeper immerses us into the depths of Melville's influence on the literature, film, and art of our modern world. Cotkin's playful wit and critical precision stretch from Camus to Led Zeppelin, from Emerson to Bob Dylan, and bring to life the terrors and wonders of what is arguably America's greatest novel.
Description: Herman Melville's epic tale of obsession has all the ingredients of a first rate drama--fascinating characters in solitude and society, battles between good and evil, a thrilling chase to the death--and yet its allusions, digressions, and sheer scope can prove daunting to even the most intrepid reader. George Cotkin's Dive Deeper provides both a guide to the novel and a record of its dazzling cultural train. It supplies easy-to-follow plot points for each of the novel's 135 sections before taking up a salient phrase, image, or idea in each for further exploration. Through these forays, Cotkin traces the astonishing reach of the novel, sighting the White Whale in mainstream and obscure subcultures alike, from impressionist painting circles to political terrorist cells. In a lively and engaging style, Dive Deeper immerses us into the depths of Melville's influence on the literature, film, and art of our modern world. Cotkin's playful wit and critical precision stretch from Camus to Led Zeppelin, from Emerson to Bob Dylan, and bring to life the terrors and wonders of what is arguably America's greatest novel.
November 25, 2015
I've been gearing up these last few weeks to re-read Moby-Dick again and this treat of a book was just the thing. Perfect for anyone who likes to nerd out on Melville/Moby-Dick. Each chapter is inspired in some way by a chapter in Melville's magnum opus -- using the original as a sort of springboard to explore the Melville's life, the themes of his most celebrated novel, its critics, appreciators, imitators and interpreters, as well as the many adaptations and odd offshoots that it has spawned in the last 150+ years (Starbucks Coffee, for instance). I thoroughly enjoyed the more serious critical survey woven through the book but I especially appreciated the many introductions to interesting projects inspired by Melville's novels: paintings, sculptures, stage productions, abridgments (including a version that includes only the items deleted from the most famous abridgment), a translation into emojis, prequels, sequels, and companion novels re-telling the story from the point of view of Ahab, Ahab's wife, Ahab's son, even Moby Dick himself. I found myself writing down the names of any number of other books, writers, artists, etc. I wouldn't say that the book lives up to its title -- rather than Dive Deeper it might be called Dive Wider or Dive Broader, for that was my impression of the book: it didn't deepen my knowledge or appreciation for Moby-Dick, but it has broadened it.
May 25, 2019
Letter from Melville to Evert Duyckink, 3 March 1849:
...I was very agreeably disappointed in Mr Emerson. I had heard of him as full of transcendentalisms, myths & oracular gibberish; I had only glanced at a book of his once in Putnam's store -- that was all I knew of him, till I heard him lecture. -- To my surprise, I found him quite intelligible, tho' to say truth, they told me that that night he was unusually plain. --- Now, there is a something about every man elevated above mediocrity, which is, for the most part, instinctively perceptible. This I see in Mr Emerson. And, frankly, for the sake of argument, let us call him a fool; -- then had I rather be a fool than a wise man. -- I love all men who dive. Any fish can swim near the surface, but it takes a great whale to go down stairs five miles or more; & if he dont attain the bottom, why, all the lead in Galena can't fashion the plummet that will. I'm not talking of Mr Emerson now -- but of the whole corps of thought-divers, that have been diving & coming up again with blood-shot eyes since the world began.
...I was very agreeably disappointed in Mr Emerson. I had heard of him as full of transcendentalisms, myths & oracular gibberish; I had only glanced at a book of his once in Putnam's store -- that was all I knew of him, till I heard him lecture. -- To my surprise, I found him quite intelligible, tho' to say truth, they told me that that night he was unusually plain. --- Now, there is a something about every man elevated above mediocrity, which is, for the most part, instinctively perceptible. This I see in Mr Emerson. And, frankly, for the sake of argument, let us call him a fool; -- then had I rather be a fool than a wise man. -- I love all men who dive. Any fish can swim near the surface, but it takes a great whale to go down stairs five miles or more; & if he dont attain the bottom, why, all the lead in Galena can't fashion the plummet that will. I'm not talking of Mr Emerson now -- but of the whole corps of thought-divers, that have been diving & coming up again with blood-shot eyes since the world began.
April 10, 2013
Kind've all over the place, but so is Moby Dick.
February 3, 2019
If you're already a hardcore Moby-Dick fanboy scholar, this book might not have much to offer. Cotkin invites layperson readers to 'dive deeper' into Moby's world, as the title suggests, but if you're already studying Melville professionally, you're just about as deep as you can get.
If you're a person like me who doesn't study Melville, but loved reading Moby-Dick so much that it gave you a book-hangover and you needed to read something Moby-related immediately afterwards (hair of the dog/whale that bit you, so to speak), this book will hit the spot. I certainly enjoyed learning about other interesting adaptations and interpretations of Moby-Dick (Middle Passage by Charles Johnson is on my TBR because of Cotkin's glowing recommendation in this book).
However, for best results, I recommend this book to people who are reading Moby-Dick in its entirety for the first time and feel a bit daunted. Each chapter in this book corresponds with a chapter in Melville's novel, so you can read a chapter of Moby, and then read the matching chapter in Dive Deeper for a better understanding and appreciation of one of the weirdest and most wonderful books ever written.
If you're a person like me who doesn't study Melville, but loved reading Moby-Dick so much that it gave you a book-hangover and you needed to read something Moby-related immediately afterwards (hair of the dog/whale that bit you, so to speak), this book will hit the spot. I certainly enjoyed learning about other interesting adaptations and interpretations of Moby-Dick (Middle Passage by Charles Johnson is on my TBR because of Cotkin's glowing recommendation in this book).
However, for best results, I recommend this book to people who are reading Moby-Dick in its entirety for the first time and feel a bit daunted. Each chapter in this book corresponds with a chapter in Melville's novel, so you can read a chapter of Moby, and then read the matching chapter in Dive Deeper for a better understanding and appreciation of one of the weirdest and most wonderful books ever written.
January 13, 2024
Literary criticism of 'Moby Dick' with the interesting idea of using each chapter of MB as inspiration to write a semi-related essay. I thought this would be much more wide-ranging than it actually is; the vast, vast majority of essays are summaries of the linked chapter, parts of Melville's biography, biographies of various Melville scholars, or descriptions of paintings, movies, comic books, and other retellings of MB. Honestly, you'd probably be better off just rereading MB, because there's not all that much new that Cotkin brings to the table.
June 8, 2022
Interesting at times, but fairly uneven. Some of the chapters were really, really off-topic.
April 17, 2013
( 3.5/5.0 )
George Cotkin's Dive Deeper: Journeys with Moby Dick is a modern companion to Melville's epic novel. It is not intended to be a comprehensive study guide, but it does provide a decent window to the various meditations threaded throughout Moby Dick. Rather than limit the significance of Melville's allegories to mid-nineteenth century referents, Cotkin argues their universality by drawing comparison with various forms of public media and figures. As Dive Deeper’s Table of Contents is identical to that of Moby Dick, it lends itself as a direct chapter-by-chapter guide. Unfortunately, while the format is designed as an homage to Melville’s work, it too frequently gives away Moby Dick’s conclusion, thereby deflating suspense for anyone reading the guide concurrently with the novel: kindle loc. 767 (p. 43), kindle loc. 1268 (p. 70), kindle loc. 1545 (p. 84), kindle loc. 1708 (p. 92), kindle loc. 1747 (p. 93-94), kindle loc. 1827 (p. 97), kindle loc. 2123 (p. 114), kindle loc. 2688 (p. 145), kindle loc. 2784 (p. 152), kindle loc. 2785 (p. 152), kindle loc. 2928 (p. 159), kindle loc. 3068 (p. 166), kindle loc. 3069 (p. 166), kindle loc. 3111 (p. 169), kindle loc. 3396 (p. 184), kindle loc. 3544 (p. 192), kindle loc. 3615 (p. 196), kindle loc. 4086 (p. 224), kindle loc. 4156 (p. 227), kindle loc. 4195 (p. 229), kindle loc. 4271 (p. 234), kindle loc. 4378 (p. 240), kindle loc. 4455 (p. 243).
George Cotkin's Dive Deeper: Journeys with Moby Dick is a modern companion to Melville's epic novel. It is not intended to be a comprehensive study guide, but it does provide a decent window to the various meditations threaded throughout Moby Dick. Rather than limit the significance of Melville's allegories to mid-nineteenth century referents, Cotkin argues their universality by drawing comparison with various forms of public media and figures. As Dive Deeper’s Table of Contents is identical to that of Moby Dick, it lends itself as a direct chapter-by-chapter guide. Unfortunately, while the format is designed as an homage to Melville’s work, it too frequently gives away Moby Dick’s conclusion, thereby deflating suspense for anyone reading the guide concurrently with the novel: kindle loc. 767 (p. 43), kindle loc. 1268 (p. 70), kindle loc. 1545 (p. 84), kindle loc. 1708 (p. 92), kindle loc. 1747 (p. 93-94), kindle loc. 1827 (p. 97), kindle loc. 2123 (p. 114), kindle loc. 2688 (p. 145), kindle loc. 2784 (p. 152), kindle loc. 2785 (p. 152), kindle loc. 2928 (p. 159), kindle loc. 3068 (p. 166), kindle loc. 3069 (p. 166), kindle loc. 3111 (p. 169), kindle loc. 3396 (p. 184), kindle loc. 3544 (p. 192), kindle loc. 3615 (p. 196), kindle loc. 4086 (p. 224), kindle loc. 4156 (p. 227), kindle loc. 4195 (p. 229), kindle loc. 4271 (p. 234), kindle loc. 4378 (p. 240), kindle loc. 4455 (p. 243).
January 22, 2016
This book dives "wider" than "deeper." Each chapter, averaging less than two pages in length, is a vignette ostensibly addressed to a corresponding chapter in Moby-Dick (138 in total, including the three unnumbered chapters). The majority of chapters describe critical and literary responses to the novel: the paintings of Jackson Pollock, the film adaptations starring John Barrymore or Gregory Peck, a summary of Blood Meridian, the music of Bob Dylan, the founding of Starbuck's coffee, or an essay by W.H. Auden. Other chapters describe the potential influences upon Melville: King Lear, the wreck of the whaleship Essex, or Lieutenant Charles Wilkes.
Although it aims to reproduce the tangential rhythm of Moby-Dick, it reads more like an extension of the novel's "Extracts"--a superficial buzz of opinions, ultimately unsatisfactory in grasping its topic. Some of it borders on the obvious (one chapter notes that Ahab's name is variously trafficked between political opponents). Nevertheless, there are plenty of morsels to discover here, even for learned Moby-Dick fans.
Although it aims to reproduce the tangential rhythm of Moby-Dick, it reads more like an extension of the novel's "Extracts"--a superficial buzz of opinions, ultimately unsatisfactory in grasping its topic. Some of it borders on the obvious (one chapter notes that Ahab's name is variously trafficked between political opponents). Nevertheless, there are plenty of morsels to discover here, even for learned Moby-Dick fans.
March 2, 2013
i at first was going to give this book four stars but went to five realizing that it did everything it meant to. for each chapter in the novel cotkin riffs some kind of response. rarely it is an explanation which usually contains an expanded view he has of the whole novel. often he gives background history of the novels reception.
it was a very enjoyable read and hopefully i go back to it. the big hook for me was his existential readings and i loved his summing up of the existential view. " By our actions we impose meaning upon an indifferent world."
ishmael became for me my favourite character in moby dick and i even see him as the real protagonist. i cannot make a strong case for this without giving it more thought than i can now afford but it was with great pleasure that i came to cotkins final chapter where he compared ishmaels response to his journey to bob dylans artistic response to our world. " Both of them, each in his own manner, are self-created, fictions of authenticity, bearers of meandering meaning."
it was a very enjoyable read and hopefully i go back to it. the big hook for me was his existential readings and i loved his summing up of the existential view. " By our actions we impose meaning upon an indifferent world."
ishmael became for me my favourite character in moby dick and i even see him as the real protagonist. i cannot make a strong case for this without giving it more thought than i can now afford but it was with great pleasure that i came to cotkins final chapter where he compared ishmaels response to his journey to bob dylans artistic response to our world. " Both of them, each in his own manner, are self-created, fictions of authenticity, bearers of meandering meaning."
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January 8, 2016I didn't finish this book, but I might pick it up again when I someday read Moby Dick for a third time. Not super gripping, but rather interesting observations.
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