I recently read the Buddy Waters English fan translation of Jorge Joestar and, well, it's hard to put into words how I feel about this book. It was well known within the Jojo fandom that the Jorge Joestar novel was pretty out there so I had an idea of what I was getting into when I started reading. That said, I wasn't quite expecting this book to be quite so full on with its strangeness - it embraces the idea of being a Bizarre Adventure with every fiber of its being and always seems to be trying to one-up itself with new crazy scenarios and plot points. Initially I found this quite entertaining and looked forward to whatever new absurd angle was going to be introduced next but eventually the appeal of it began to wear thin, especially as the book was surprisingly long and many scenarios had disappointingly short and/or hand-waved resolutions.
I have seen this book jokingly described elsewhere as a Jojo's Bizarre Adventure fanfiction but the comparison is an apt one. I would certainly not recommend reading this story without having read the Jojo's Bizarre Adventure manga from part 1 (Phantom Blood) through to the end of part 7 (Steel Ball Run) as this novel references characters, events and powers from across the manga and expects you to know them. If you read it having only watched the anime or before reading all of the manga, expect to be very confused and to have a lot of the series plot points spoiled for you!
Ultimately I enjoyed this book but also found it a little frustrating - for me, it ran a fine line between so-bad-it's-good and straight up bad. That said, I would recommend it to any Jojo fan with time on their hands because it's still entertaining and if you're anything like me, you'll have some fun reactions to the plot as it progresses.
This feels like a shitpost, like ever think oh i live this funny valentine villain from part 7, heres his son funnier valentine and his son the funniest valentine, also 36 Kars on mars.
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How are you even supposed to review a book like this. I’ve never seen something so brazenly walk the line between brilliance and complete unintelligible nonsense.
This was An Experience, I guess. I knew going in that Jorge Joestar wasn't a masterpiece, that it was messy and such, but I couldn't possibly have known how it really is without reading it. It was worse than everything I could've expected. This is an unstructured mess from beginning to end. It is fanfiction in the worst ways conceivable - characters are thrown around and played with in ways thay feel self-indulgent while also being completely stupid. The writing isn't very good either, I just kept getting lost in whatever a sentence was trying to say and there's only so much that I can blame on translators (and iirc, it was translated by ppl who've also been doing a decent job with Part 8, i know manga and novels are different but still). The only thing worth salvaging in this trainwreck, honestly, is the experience. Not many novels have tested how stupid they could get while still keeping me kind of on board. Because this is still a very fun read and I guess True JoJo Fans or whatever those weebs call themselves these days would definitely enjoy it. Just not in a way you enjoy a good novel.
This is the ultimate fan fiction. It contains everything Jojo fans like, adds what makes Maijo great, and somehow improves every existing aspect of the original series just by existing. Thank you so much Maijo.
"The 768 page long Jojo Novel and the most surreal and crazy of them all"
My thoughts on "ジョージ・ジョースター" (English title: Jorge Joestar)
Written by 舞城王太郎 (Maijo Otarou) Art by 飛呂彦荒木 and 舞城王太郎 (Hirohiko Araki and Maijo Otarou)
The story: The book retells the stories of two Jorge Joestar's from different times and different universes. One writes his name like "Jorge Joestar" and is the son of Jonathan Joestar. And the other writes his name like "Joji Joestar" and is a detective in 2012 Morioh.
The story, Jorge's side:
After the death of Jonathan Joestar, Jorge and his family end up in Spain. The rest of the story focuses on filling the gaps in the story of Jorge that is told in part 2 of Jojo. He fights zombies, goes to war, marries, and does some crazy things.
The story, Joji's side:
Joji is a detective that ends up going to morioh to solve a murder mystery to which he already knows the culprit. Kira Yoshikage. The story ends up turning into a universe-hopping time-traveling adventure with characters from all 7 parts of Jojo
How difficult was it to read in Japanese?:
Even though it is 768-page long, most of the language it uses isn't very difficult, in comparison to NisiOisiN's books this one wasn't very difficult to read, even though I would say I just understood about 85% of it.
If you want to read this book in Japanese:
As I have been doing recently, I made a PDF vocabulary list containing the most difficult and strange words I found while reading this book with kanji meanings and readings: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1icAU...
Enjoyment: It stars very slow just a normal English boy growing up in Spain. A young detective investigating a murder mystery. And somehow they end up fighting together with help of the most powerful being against the villains of all 7 parts of Jojo.
Would I recommend it?: Yes, if you have read until part 7 of Jojo. If you haven't I wouldn't recommend it, it is a spoiler fest that just would end up confusing you as to why the hell almost all the characters behave differently than in the manga.
My favorite aspect of this book: I loved the stands and how crazy and over the top they were. Imagine a stand whose only ability is to summon flying dolphins or another that just summons an NYPD policeman. Or the craziest of them all Made In Heaven Ultimate Requiem.
The verdict: I didn't want to spoil a lot of why this novel is so amazingly crazy and surreal because it would take me a lot of text to do so. But believe me when I say that it feels like reading a very good fanfic someone wrote while high on something. 9.5/10
This review will not just contain spoilers from the book, but also the JoJo's Bizarre Adventure manga all the way from Part 1 through 7 . (but this warning is USELESS because " bizzare " is an understatement for describing this book)
What the heck did I just read ???? This piece of literature is the proof of how far can the human mind go , how wild the imaginations can get , and how it by some sort of miracle, the most bizarre and random set of events, end up making sense . The author Otaro Maijo probably spent his entire life reading the work of Araki Sensei and got a better understanding of the JoJo's lore than Araki himself. The book has us following Two Jorge Joestars from two different worlds and we switch between these worlds with every chapter following their individual story. Soon these two worlds end up colliding and our JoJo's travel between dimensions. What starts out as a detective story with a hint of vampires, slowly and beautifully introduces the concept of Hamon and stands . New powers are introduced like "wound" : also a fighting spirit like stands that is build from Trauma . The other universe, starts out in Part 4 alternate Morioh, which is probably the funniest chapter in the book because of the silly differences between this universe and the manga/anime one . Characters from Part 1 through 7 show up in the later chapters and even the light novel original characters . Remember Funny Valentine from part 7 ? So here the president didn't die and even had a son who is named Funnier Valentine ! And his son was called " The funniest valentine " (who by the way is the only human in the multiverse whose name contains the word "THE" ) . Also Funny's offspring is an astronaut, who is going to Mars, to check the newly discovered third moon ? WRONG ! That's what they told the world, but in actuality, that third moon is a sphere, which is actually an eye, but it is floating because Kars the ultimate lifeform from part 2 spent half his life running on the surface of Mars and holding the sphere like a balloon. So anyways, the sphere explodes and 36 kars pop out because he waited for the universe to be born and die 36 times to gather these alternate versions of himself. So with every new universe, a new Kars is born. But the death of a universe is not enough to kill the ultimate being, so the new " he " stays to watch a new version of him arrive on time again.
Every character in this novel (and there are too many of them) deserves a paragraph of their own. But since Kars is my favourite in this book, i decided to mention him only. And that's not even half his description. His interactions with our main characters is one of the funniest things I've ever read .
Our first detective universe also gives us grounded stories to balance out the madness. And the standards for normal have changed so much in this book . " A grounded human in the great world war , jumping from one fighter plane to another, shooting down an army of his resurrected highschool bully who sheds skin to create clones " is the bar for normal in this book .
I swear I'm not trolling or making any of this up . You could be a JoJo fan caught up to the manga and still not get spoiled by this review because of how insane this novel is .
This was all of the less crazy stuff, the biggest murder case mystery in all of multiverse is solved by checking out the fetishes of the serial killer . Those previously mentioned army highschool bullys ! Their piles of corpses end up being legs to multiple islands . The Islands literally grow legs and walk on water to collide with other islands . They have time to flip over to see a beautiful view of Moby Dick floating in the sky !
The craziest thing about this book is how the author makes sense of this madness. If something crazy is introduced, no matter how ridiculous. It contributes to the solving of the ultimate mystery. In the previous mentioned example, the mystery of the walking Islands is introduced, then the great war with the bully army is mentioned in the later chapters. He connects these two mysteries to provide explanation for each of them.
If you're a Detective novel fan, there's that extremely satisfying moment when everything falls into place . We get that here as well, after 600 pages of buildup, you still won't see it coming.
Otaro Maijo is an absolute madman, how can you take a character that was barely mentioned in part 2 and write a multiversal story around him which briefly goes into each jojo part briefly ? Not a single character feels wasted ! Part 6 Pucci, Part 5 Giorno, passione family and Doppio , Narancia, Baby Joseph and Ofcourse the two Jorge Joestars . EVERYONE'S HERE !!!!! But what he achieved with The Valentines and Kars in the final chapters was truly special
Also Giorno was Dio all along in part 3 , so he is biologically his own father !
It is bizarre, it has endless reread value, it is the craziest story that I've ever heard in any medium or form . I challenge you to find something so crazy that also logically ties everything together like Jorge Joestar does .
An absolute masterpiece !!!
10/10
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This is the most famous light novel in the Jojo series... Spoilers ahead
Though I do genuinely like the chapters where (surprise, surprise) Dio narrators the flash back with his possible interests with Erina again... But the best part is when Erina shows her son (Jorge/ George) that she has his father's head in a futurama-esque container and (much like Dio) he still can talk. Imagine being Jorge and meeting your father for the first time like that, and your mother acting like this is normal. Also I'm pretty sure Erina wanted to/did bang Dio (can't blame the girl, she's only human after all) this is just a tid bit from the early chapters most of the book is insanity.
So you know it does match early Jojo quite well 2+ Jojo star birthmarks for that.
The other half of the book follows a minor character who dies pretty early on only to be "reborn" in modern day Morioh. (the only city in Jojo's Japan apparently) and like his former self starts solving cold cases all over Morioh. This by the way has nothing to do with the main story line it's just kinda there. I skipped most of it so I can't really say if it was good or bad...
The main story is the real tea. It follows young Jorge Joestar from childhood to adulthood and his not so obvious affections for the young Lisa Lisa. (This does not stop him from having like two other girlfriends mind you; I see were Joseph gets it from.) Jorge is also a master sleuth and among other things finds out a classmate of his has been murdered, by his own mother for the thirteenth time in a row... She ritually skins him, you know like ya do. But she really screwed the pooch this time because she actually killed him. Now detective Conan is on the case.
After that it moves ahead a couple of years Lisa Lisa moves to Italy with Strazio and Jorge cry's about very thing. That's when Erina tells Jorge about her hobby's in the barn, and he the runs away and the the story goes 180 and suddenly Diavolo is in the story (many versions of him) and everybody who didn't have a stand before has about five now, Pucci makes an appearance being the only character mostly in character. This is also where the infamous stand The Passion comes in. It's Johnathan's stand btw.
In another review for the light novel Over Heaven I said that this was worse, and I stand by that. The writing is terrible, beyond that even. But the craziness of the story does give it more heart than Over Heaven (which is pretty mundane, considering it's from Dio's perspective) I enjoy reading everything Jojo related so it's never really that bad. Read it for the laughs as there is plenty to be had.
Wish that this was two distinct stories rather than two that go back and forth and eventually intertwine, because the 1905 Jorge's story was really consistently exciting and entertaining. The 2012 Jorge? Where do you even begin? 😭
I'll get the good things out of the way first: I found the relationship between 2012 Jorge and Cars very entertaining, though it was a bit of a jarring change from Cars' original appearance for him to go from Battle Tendency's main villain to the "Ultimate Being" who kinda just sticks around for his own amusement, but what else are you gonna do after being stuck on Mars for 37 universes? Also really loved the family tree of Funny Valentine, Funnier Valentine, and The Funniest Valentine. Movie name stands were also a refreshing change, though I wish they would've changed the existing famous stands to have similarly cool movie titles.
The rest is sort of incoherent, unfortunately. I'm not really sure what Tsukumojuku was supposed to represent or even what he was really doing, and the worlds flipping and shrinking (?) were also too out there. The whole part 1-7 crossover didn't really work for me, either, though I thought some of the switch-ups from what fans are accustomed to were interesting, like Giorno being the boss's split personality and Doppio just being a phone-obsessed weirdo. Worst part of the novel was definitely the final parts where the Jorge's switch places and have to advance/reverse universes to get home and the finale sees them have some kinda family reunion in the actual final parts of part 7 with Dio immediately going from threatening to shaking his head and walking out. Super hard to follow, completely lost the plot, and hurt how good the 1905 story was. Trying to out-bizzare JJBA did not go well, though some of my issues may have come from a less-than-stellar translation.
Still worth a read, if only for 1905 chapters and the sheer nonsense of 2012, but also definitely not something you want to read if you aren't a big JoJo fan (though I guess that's obvious).
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This was an OK read but definitely too bizarre for my liking. For starters it is extremely convoluted. I like complex stories, but by the end I was just nodding along and trusting the novel on whatever because it's impossible to follow everything that happens, especially towards the end.
Secondly, the book is too long. It starts off slow, creating interesting plot hooks that kind of come out of/lead to nowhere, before moving on to the actual main plot which only starts developing closer to the end; and in the meantime too many pages are wasted on events and concepts that either don't make sense or don't matter in the grand scheme of things.
The attempt to make a JoJo story into a detective novel is interesting, but it doesn't really work since most of the conclusions to the problems faced are often logical leaps that make no sense, or are reliant on information the reader never had to begin with. There are also plenty of elements that get introduced to add complexity to the scenarios which end up being nothing but misdirection, and that have no real reason for being there.
The fact that this novel connects the first 7 parts of the JoJo franchise in previously unthought-of ways that still feel canonically plausible is certainly the most interesting thing about it, but it is too confusing and requires the reader to dismiss many things they know about the canon/accept too many new things that are certainly not canon.
While I praise the effort taken to create this mess, I don't think it is worth it in the end. I would rather have just read a more well structured story about Jorge in England, even if that meant cutting down the complexity, and therefore, the originality of it. The bizarre nature of the JoJo world means there is always something that can be used to make unthinkable connections, but to do so one must ignore all the other things that break when doing so.
Frankly, this novel is extremely underrated in the JoJo community, I suspect this is because most of the people who talk about it seem to have never read it and just use it as a source of unfunny memes whilst spreading mistruths about it because they've been told that it is not a legitimate piece of literature, which couldn't be further from the truth.
Jorge Joestar dares to step foot out of the bounds of it's source material whilst still adhering to the same ideas and concepts found within. New types of abilities are introduced that work well within the world of JoJo. There is genuine sadness to be found within many characters stories. Things are never as they seem. A main character that does not start off 'complete' as many of Araki's own protagonists have, growing slowly in courage as he navigates a world more terrifying than anything JoJo readers have experienced before.
I don't want to spoil the book, it's best to go in completely blind like I did. Every change of chapter genuinely amazed me and I couldn't put the book down. All I knew about it going in was it was meant to be a story about Jorge Joestar, and that's really all I'd recommend people to know going in, too much more and you'll ruin the surprise.
Adorei. É daqueles que referencia tantas coisas e a si próprio tanto, e inventa tanta coisa estonteante, que adquire o carácter Hussiano de ser impossível de descrever algum ponto a meio da história sem soar como um lunático. Não leiam isto esperando uma light novel de JoJo genérica porque vão ficar desapontados com os desvios todos feitos do canónico. Recomenda-se já ter lido outras coisas do autor, ou pelo menos ser familiar com as idiossincrasias dele.
Em suma, é uma história de detectives? Com absurdismo mais forte que o típico em JoJo, mas a narrativa converge em algo concreto.
I mean it's not as hilariously bad as everyone makes it out to be. It's not great, and while bizarre is not Jojo's. I mean what's most striking about it is how it gets some things really well, and then brings them to absolutely odd conclusions.
Only recommended for the JoJo completionist. Stick to the anime, mango, or better light novels.
already read this book, reading it again. it's a masterpiece,,, the most magnificent thing you will ever read in your life. i've never been on drugs, but if i was, this is what i think it would feel like. my life changed after reading this. would give it 6 stars if possible. have the lowest expectations when going into it. please read it. please.
It’s a good work of detective fiction, sci-fi, and bizarreness, making the most of the book format. I like how well it references and parallels the various parts in character roles, storytelling, and abilities. You may be caught up in the newly made logistics but it’s undoubtably the writing of a fan.
A very good book. One of the best science fiction books you can find out there! If you like Dark Matter by Blake Crouch, then JORGE JOESTAR is definitely your next want-to-read book!
Light novel dedicata al mondo delle bizzarre avventure di Jojo che, ha differenza dei due precedenti volumi, non si prefigge di essere un semplice volume extra delle avventure di uno dei protagonisti della serie, ma piuttosto cerca di risolvere diversi punti oscuri di questa sconfinata saga generazionale che da decenni si espande arrivando a coprire oltre un secolo di storia, tutti i continenti e addirittura universi paralleli, e lo fà in un modo caotico e bizzarro, ma assolutamente affascinante. La storia inizia mostrandoci gli eventi immediatamente successivi alla prima serie del manga, con protagonista Jonathan Joestar, che non sono mai stati mostrati nella serie e qui scopriamo la storia del suo erede(prima di joshep nella seconda serie del manga) e la sua vita dopo essersi trasferito alle isole canarie. Qui facciamo anche la conoscenza di una versione giovane e inesperta di LisaLisa, futura mentore di Joseph, e scopriamo la storia delle sue origini...ma la storie in realtà non è ancora iniziata, perché il vero fulcro della trama riguarda un'altro (e sempre inedito) Jojo che, con l'ausilio di Giorno, protagonista della quinta serie del manga, vento aureo, e Rohan, personaggio della quarta serie e protagonista di una serie spin-off, dovrà contrastare le conseguenze degli avvenimenti mostrati alla fine della sesta serie, stone ocean, ed esplorare varie versioni parallele dei personaggi principali della serie. Il volume è un must per i fan della saga di Haraki, spesso criticato per la sua natura confusa e caotica, in realtà riesce perfettamente ad incapsulare lo spirito sopra le righe e sempre spiazzante della serie originale, ma contiene una quantità tale di riferimenti, citazioni e collegamenti a tutti gli archi narrativi passati della serie madre tali da rendere la lettura ostica per chi non avesse una vasta conoscenza del manga, cosa che rende il volume decisamente poco adatto per i neofiti, ma saprà dare grande soddisfazioni ai fan più accaniti.
Novela del universo Jojo's Bizarre Adventure que transcurre entre la Part 1: Phantom's Blood y la Part 2: Battle Tendency. El protagonista es George Joestar II, también conocido como Jorge Joestar. Forma parte de la saga de novelas VS JOJO, en conmemoración por los 25 años de Jojo no kimyona bouken.
One of the worst things I’ve ever read. There was a single chunk of dialogue that took up two pages. It is absolutely fascinating read, purely because of how batshit it gets. I kinda want to read it again.
Otra novela jojesca que en teoría, ya la podría leer sin spoiler ni saltos generacionales. A ver si lograron hacerlo interesante al pobre Jorgito, el menos Jojo de los Joestar.
Jeg blir rett og slett ikke klok på denne boka. Den er alt for lang (600-800 sider, avhengig av utgave), og jeg har enda ikke klart å forklare plottet på en vettug måte til noen. Ikke at jeg hang med på plottet mellom side 400-600... Det er omtrent den mest ambisiøse boka jeg har lest siden "Krig og Fred", og hadde jeg vært ekstra modig hadde jeg sammenligna dem. Dessverre mangler denne boka både i språk og patos, og da er vel strengt tatt bare antall karakterer noenlunde likt (nå er jeg litt sjenerøs, så klart).