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Fantastic Four (1961) #251-257, Annual #17

Fantastic Four Visionaries: John Byrne, Vol. 3

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Collects Fantastic Four (1961) #251-257 and Annual #17, Avengers #233 and Thing (1983) #2.

Not since the days of Stan Lee and Jack Kirby, the trailblazers of the Marvel Universe, had someone so perfectly captured the intense mood, cosmic style and classic sense of adventure of Marvel's first family of super heroes. Writer/artist John Byrne launched the Fantastic Four into realms where few creators before had dared to go. Now, the collection of his classic run continues! Featuring a four-part epic deep within the Negative Zone -- and the death of...Reed Richards?! Plus: Galactus devours the Skrull homeworld, and the Fantastic Four say goodbye to the Baxter Building! Guest-starring the Avengers!

248 pages, Paperback

Published January 12, 2005

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John Byrne

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John Lindley Byrne is a British-born Canadian-American author and artist of comic books. Since the mid-1970s, Byrne has worked on nearly every major American superhero.

Byrne's better-known work has been on Marvel Comics' X-Men and Fantastic Four and the 1986 relaunch of DC Comics’ Superman franchise. Coming into the comics profession exclusively as a penciler, Byrne began co-plotting the X-Men comics during his tenure on them, and launched his writing career in earnest with Fantastic Four (where he also started inking his own pencils). During the 1990s he produced a number of creator-owned works, including Next Men and Danger Unlimited. He also wrote the first issues of Mike Mignola's Hellboy series and produced a number of Star Trek comics for IDW Publishing.

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Profile Image for Dan.
3,205 reviews10.8k followers
July 15, 2016
Fantastic Four Visionaries: John Byrne, Vol. 3 contains Fantastic Four 251-257, plus Annual 17, Thing #2, and Avengers #233.

The Fantastic Four have a lengthy journey into the Negative Zone, Annihilus invades the Baxter Building, and Galactus devours the Skrull homeworld. Also, a small town is effected by drinking the milk from the Skrulls Reed turned into cows in Fantastic Four #2.

By the end of the series, it looked like Reed and Sue were going part time to parent their kids. I wonder if Byrne originally planned to phase them out but Marvel wouldn't let him. The six issue adventure in the Negative Zone was pretty great. The Fantastic Four should be the Marvel Universe equivalent to Star Trek or Doctor Who and this was a great example of that.

That's pretty much it. The end of this volume leaves the team a wreck with Franklin and Alicia in the hospital and Reed and Sue looking for a place to live in Connecticut. It really makes me curious as to what the next volume holds. 4 out of 5 stars.
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10.3k reviews1,060 followers
March 15, 2022
Most of this volume revolves around a trip to the Negative Zone. While the FF spend 4 months exploring, Annihilus comes to Earth and attempts to destroy both universes. I like how Byrne did the crossover with the Avengers with both teams unwittingly attacking Annihilus from multiple sides without realizing the other team was there. The Fantastic Four also get new costumes for the first time since the Lee and Kirby days. Plus, Galactus eats the Skrull homeworld which will have repercussions all the way through Secret Invasion.
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May 6, 2019
I missed many of these stories the first time around. What a shame, as they are pretty good. As I mentioned before, I agree with the hype that John Byrne truly did capture the feel & spirit of the Lee & Kirby Fantastic Four stories. Thanks to Comixology Unlimited I was able to read the first 3 John Byrne collections. 4 to 5 stars each one. And there are several more.
Profile Image for Wes Benchoff.
213 reviews10 followers
June 8, 2019
The best of Byrne's Fantastic Four that I've read so far, some fun adventures in the negative zone, lots of great illustrations, and the Skrull cows show up!
Profile Image for Todd Glaeser.
787 reviews
June 28, 2019
Byrne was doing some fun experimental things with the FF by this time in his run. This volume consists of his Negative Zone/ Annihilus epic.
I was surprised by the printing quality in this book. The line work didn't seem up to Marvel's usual standards, looking blurry and in the last story like the black lines were falling out or third or fourth generation copies.
Author 26 books37 followers
June 2, 2008
The only person to come close to Stan and Jack's glory days on FF is John Byrne. He had a great balance of quiet family moments, big freaking cosmic moments, old villains and new people, places and things.

The Negative Zone four parter was brilliant sci-fi.
Annihilus shows up and we are reminded that he's a scary guy.
Then there's Galactus. One of the coolest characters every, that had watered down to the point that he felt like one of those cheesy godlike beings that show up all the time in Star Trek.
Byrne reminds us that this guy is basically a god, the biggest, most powerful guy in the cosmos and just be make sure we get the message, Glactus then takes out the home world of a major marvel alien race.


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86 reviews2 followers
August 23, 2018
The Negative Zone saga was a bit underwhelming. There is plot repetition and little character insight but the Galactus arc returns as the main plot thread and having the Trial of Galactus tpb, I know good stuff are ahead...very dark stuff too.

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January 29, 2022
Oh, those clean lines, that fabulous architecture – at times I was reminded of what Chris Ware might be if only he could draw people like he does buildings (and also tell a story that wasn't deathly dull, of course). The main storyline this time out sees the FF heading off into the Negative Zone, which we're reminded Reed Richards had previously said was too dangerous and had to be entirely sealed off. But no, apparently it's fine now, to the extent that they don't bother inviting any of their many superhero mates around to keep an eye on the place while they're gone, instead just getting Alicia to come over. Yep, leaving a blind woman to babysit depowered infant Franklin in a building full of mad science and with many enemies - what could possibly go wrong, eh? Though once Annihilus inevitably makes his way through to Earth, and has overcome these non-obstacles, it does initially seem like his plan for vengeance goes no further than answering the FF's phone in a creepy voice, which provides a bathetic counterpoint to an otherwise powerfully tragic one-issue story of a lost generation ship, one which includes some particularly lovely alien landscapes almost as seductive as a Manara idyll. That's followed by The Minds Of Mantracora, whose visuals as well as its title reference a Tom Baker Who story, though I was more taken aback by the line where Ben refers to knowing Reed for 20-odd years – imagine, a time before the sliding timeline! There's also a scene where a freshly post-coital Reed uses his stretching powers to capture some goons, and they are very visibly caught in his bottom half, leading one to ask - is there some musky teabagging going on here? Anyway, it turns out Annihilus does have a slightly bigger plan than heavy breathing, namely the destruction of both our universe and his, because of course he does. Once - spoilers! - that's foiled, I particularly enjoyed that the team's incredibly dangerous return from the Negative Zone mainly serves to a) reboot Reed's brain and b) switch the colours on their costumes. There are points where old-school superhero comic science is so stupid that I can't help but love it. The collection wraps up with a poignant solo story for Ben; a creepy small-town mystery; and Fragments, which largely follows Johnny's ex who has become a herald of Galactus, and then developed a crush on him because he's so aloof. Although maybe it was just that comics weren't quite ready to discuss other attractions of a man that big quite yet.
2,247 reviews5 followers
April 13, 2019
These issues show how good Byrne is....the trip to the Negative Zone is almost like the comic has become a sort of Star Trek, as the group isn't fighting villains as much as exploring. But you don't miss the traditional superheroics, as the stories are just as compelling.
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229 reviews2 followers
February 5, 2025
Byrne is really hitting his stride here. I loved every single issue in this collection, which comes to about 12 issues. That's a rarity! This was such a joy to read.
2,783 reviews44 followers
November 6, 2016
While statements like, “The World’s Greatest Comic Magazine” are often used in snippets of marketing hype, it was and always has been an accurate description of the Fantastic Four. This collection is a powerful argument for that position.
It contains stories from the mid 1980’s and the depth of the characters, the quality of the dialog and the interactions between the members of the FF and the actions of the supporting heroes all drive the events. The villains are all powerful and determined to do great harm, yet there is a story where the mighty Galactus is treated as a sympathetic figure.
The issues appearing in this collection are:

*) FF #251 – 257
*) Annual #17
*) Avengers #233
*) Thing #2

The stories are lengthy, told over several issues with some continuity even when a new story is started. Within the FF, there is the emphasis on family, when the FF are in the Neutral Zone and Alicia is watching young Franklin, they are captured and injured by the super villain Annihilus. This creates tension within the FF, yet they handle it like the loving, caring group they fundamentally are. Even mighty superheroes are capable of tender emotions for underneath their powers, they are people.
Profile Image for Patrickderaaff.
459 reviews12 followers
August 26, 2012
Comicbook creators, take note: this is how it should be done. Comicbook readers, if you haven't read John Byrne's classic run on FF, do it now! Volume 3 is loaded with good stuff, such as the Negative Zone, Annihilus takes New York, the Avengers, She-Hulk (who will play a big role in the FF's not so distant future), Galactus (my favourite FF issue ever - the big G consumes the Skrull throneworld!) and of course, the FF :) Nuff said!
Profile Image for Michael Craft.
45 reviews1 follower
August 26, 2018
More John Byrne writing and art!

The last story was the best! It related to a decision that Reed Richards made regarding some villains in there first year as heroes. The decision had ramifications to a small town years later. Byrne uses a lot of intelligent dialogue to further the storyline and characters. Love all the stories in this collection,
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Author 2 books14 followers
January 3, 2021
Continuamos fiéis ao Byrnezão da massa, chegamos ao terceiro volume do Quarteto, volume em que eles partem para a Zona Negativa.
Por que eles vão para lá? Só para dar um volta, explorar o universo, procurar um Outback que não tenha fila no domingo, sei lá. Não faz pergunta difícil.
Eles vão para lá, passam quatro meses perambulando pela Zona Negativa, se metendo em altas confusões e grandes aventuras, enquanto isso, na Terra, passam-se seis horas nada pacíficas porque o Aniquilador apareceu por aqui. E tocou o terror, deu uns tapas na Alícia Masters e no Franklin Richards. Ah, enquanto isso, o Reed Richards morreu.
Porém passa bem.
Morte de super-herói é a maior pegadinha de todos os tempos.
Claro que depois de tudo isso, nossos heróis voltam, fecham o portal da Zona Negativa, levam o pessoal pro hospital e as coisas meio que voltam ao normal. Um ponto interessante é o envolvimento dos Vingadores e o fato que o Visão é "desligado" - acho que a plotline que vai fazer a Wandinha enlouquecer pela primeira ou segunda vez e "engravidar" do Visão.
O que nos leva a um dos grandes questionamentos do Universo Marvel: o Visão foi construído de maneira anatomicamente correta?
Desvendaremos esse mistério oportunamente.
Continuando, depois disso temos uma tocante história do Coisa sobre um amor do passado; a história não faz muito sentido, mas aprofunda o drama do "como amar um monstro" que é a vibe do AliBen ou Benalícia? Votem nos comentários.
E então chegamos no ponto alto da edição quando Nova - a eterna Frankie Raye dos nossos corações - começa a trabalhar pro Galactus e resolve levar ele para um mundo habitado, mas foda-se. Só a Terra que não pode comer, o resto vale.
Claro que isso vai dar merda, porque ela escolheu o Planeta dos Skrulls.
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1,331 reviews5 followers
September 4, 2023
The Fantastic Four set off between dimensions to explore the Negative Zone but unbeknownst to them the villain Annihilus passed them in the opposite direction and plans to destroy both realities, plans only the FF and the Avengers combined can stop.

I'm usually a fan of John Byrne's writing and art, particularly his runs on X-Men and on Superman, so I was surprised to find myself really disliking most of this book.
At first I thought that it might just be because I'm not a fan of the Fantastic Four (all except Sue annoy me) but when the writing switched to Roger Stern for the Avengers-focused issue here, I immediately began enjoy it far more. That could still be because of my dislike of the FF, but the Avengers of this era aren't exactly among my favourites either (the Monica Rambeau Captain Marvel, Starfox, She-Hulk etc.), so I really do think it was down to Stern's tighter plotting and better eye for the balance between words and pictures.

The latter part of the book, once the FF are out of the Negative Zone, was a bit better but it still didn't feel like Byrne's best work. Not least because the final story arc is about a town being poisoned by milk from cows who are actually hypnotised Skrulls. No, really, that's what it's about.

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Profile Image for Michel Siskoid Albert.
591 reviews8 followers
March 21, 2024
Collecting issues #251-257 and Annual #17, Fantastic Four Visionaries: John Byrne Vol. 3 also includes Avengers #233 and Thing #2, which cross over into an FF storyline and had Byrne contributions on story and art. The longer arc has the FF go to the Negative Zone while Annihilus crosses over to our world, but it's really a way to tell some "Star Trek" stories with the group (nothing wrong with that). It doesn't end satisfactorily though, and in the middle of it, the art becomes a lot sketchier as Byrne stretches himself too thin. It looks like the pages are smaller and therefore look a little blown up. The proof is in the pudding with writing and partial art credits on those issues of Avengers and the Thing (plus doing an Annual in that time period), which are placed so as to repeat beats from the core Fantastic Four book BEFORE they happen, which is just annoying on multiple levels. It also makes the collection drag on with fewer issues of FF per volume. Nevertheless, it seems like Byrne is finally ready to effect some changes by the end of this chapter, with Galactus eating the Skrull homeworld, Sue getting pregnant again, and the various members moving out of the Baxter Building. Changes for the team AND for the larger Marvel Universe. Should start getting more exciting.
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385 reviews7 followers
April 19, 2021
Tomo que incluye la saga de la Zona Negativa en la que aparece mi escena favorita de la etapa Byrne y casi de toda la historia de los 4F.

Después de derrotar en duro combate personal a Alicia Masters y a un Franklin Richards sin poderes, va ese pedazo de Annihilus conquistando el mundo a base de dar vueltas por un edificio Baxter vacío. Entonces suena el teléfono... ¡y lo coge! Es Julie Dangelo, la amiga de la Antorcha Humana:
- ¿Está Johnny Storm?
- ¡No!
- ¿Y sabe cuando volverá?
- ¡Y yo qué se!
- ¿Le puede dejar un mensaj...?
- Tu-tu-tu-tu-tu...
Julie se vuelve a su amiga y le dice; "Uf, que voz más chunga tiene el que coge las llamadas en el Baxter, me da escalofríos". Al otro lado de la línea, Annihilus rompe el teléfono de un berrinche y sigue vagando por el edificio dando voces, me gusta imaginar que buscando la cocina para recompensarse de tantos sinsabores preparándose un sandwich de mantequilla de cacahuete con mayonesa.
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703 reviews11 followers
September 28, 2021
What a great collection to revisit as I haven't read these issues in a long time. The FF heads into the Negative Zone with great adventures, but while at home Annihilus has machinations of his own and the Avengers get involved. A gem in this collection if the Annual where a plot from years ago is readdressed and Byrne ties it up nicely, or does he?
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1,497 reviews6 followers
February 27, 2024
Wow, I couldn't have cared less about the negative zone stuff (saga being the ill-used term here). But the last Galactus issue was really good. I'm still waiting for this run to be "the greatest super comics ever".
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802 reviews7 followers
October 18, 2020
John Byrne's approach to Fantastic Four has just the right mix of '60s-style science fiction and '80s superheroics, tied together with his usual first class draftsmanship.
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831 reviews134 followers
June 22, 2015
I spent the bulk of June 21st inside reading this collection. It includes the Fantastic Four's random adventures in the Negative Zone, a philosophical aside with Galactus, a wistful Thing and a homage to Invasion of the Body Snatchers. As can be surmised by the fact I spent the entire day reading it, I enjoyed it immensely, especially the episodic Negative Zone stories, which I feel could have gone on for even longer.

The only complaints I have is I think Byrne here struggles with repetitive, cliche comic book language (at one point a villain calls Reed Richards "the final piece of the puzzle" then calls himself "the final piece of the puzzle" later) and, because of the singular industry and medium of comic books, there are a lot of strange recaps. The exact same comic comic panels are redrawn several times, with the same captions, over various issues, which is very weird and sort of annoying. In fact, a Fantastic Four issue and an Avengers issue included in here take place at the exact same time, and they both roughly repeat the same events, but focus on different characters. Since you can't really read them both at the same time, they work in tandem to deflate the tension of the story as a whole. It's hard to tell what is gained by combining the same time event into two issues, other than getting a kid to fork over another quarter and letting the Avengers staff off the hook for thinking up a new story for that month.

I also really thought the Thing issue was gonna be about an abortion.

Overall though exciting stuff, and I'm eager to plow into vol 4.
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Author 8 books39 followers
February 3, 2018
The Byrne era continued well with a trip into the Negative Zone, a battle with Annihilus and some trouble with Skrulls- and for them.

In 251-256, the team explored parts of the Negative Zone they'd never seen before, and found a living city, a starship on a 10,000 year quest to find a new home and a primitive planet harboring a powerful secret. Each story was compelling, as was the team's efforts to try to return home when they realized their tunnel was destroyed and they had no safe way through the distortion era. It took a lot of help from the Avengers at home to take Annihilus down, but the cost of victory was high. Little Franklin, Alicia Masters and the Vision were all badly injured before Annihilus was defeated.

The team faced a sort of Skrull problem back on Earth, directly related to one of their earliest missions. In the meantime, Frankie Raye, now called Nova, found a world for Galactus to consume: the Skrull throneworld.

Quite enjoyable.
138 reviews
July 11, 2016
Pretty much the same as Vol. 2 so I pasted my review for Vol. 2 below:

If you were a comic book collector during the '80s and you liked John Byrne's style then this is a tasty little snack. It's pretty much exactly what you'd expect it to be with some interesting (by '80s standards) stories and fun artwork. Fun surprise: I didn't realize when I was young how much of an overbearing douche Reed Richards was.
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177 reviews3 followers
January 8, 2015
Still have the 1st half of this TPB in original individual issues, but i quit collecting comics in 1983 and thus missed out on the rest of Byrne's FF run. 30+ years later i have returned and am catching up on what i missed. Byrne's work is still still superb.
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2,594 reviews71 followers
August 2, 2011
An adventure through the Negative zone is throughout all this book. There's some nice little stories and some great character moments for the main cast. An involing read.
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247 reviews
August 10, 2011
The negative zone story arc is not one of my favorites, but this one is so good!
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