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Goodbye For Now هي قصة حب رائعة تلهم العقول وتلامس القلوب، بطلها سام إلينغ مهندس برامج بارع انصب اهتمامه لاستحداث "لوغاريتم" يكشف الحقائق الخفية وراء ما يكتبه المستخدمون؛ ينفذ خطوة جريئة تنقل شبكة التواصل الاجتماعي إلى مستوى لم يخطر ببال أحد من قبل؛ إنه عالم الموتى. فقد اكتشف سام وسيلة تعيد التواصل المفقود بيننا وبين أحبائنا الذين رحلوا عن هذه الحياة، ومن هنا أتت انطلاقة بريد الموتى. لم يلجأ سام إلى الشعوذة والأشباح وما وراء الطبيعة، بل لسحر علم الكمبيوتر الذي لم يعد يعترف بالمستحيل بعد الآن.
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381 pages, Paperback
First published August 7, 2012
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Laurie Frankel
25 books3,850 followersLaurie Frankel is the bestselling author of five novels: FAMILY FAMILY, coming 1/23/24, as well as ONE TWO THREE, THIS IS HOW IT ALWAYS IS, GOODBYE FOR NOW, and THE ATLAS OF LOVE. She lives with her family on a very steep hill in Seattle, but she's an east coaster at heart. She is also a baseball fan, a soup maker, a theater lover, a yoga practicer, a comma expert, and a huge reader (just like you).
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March 28, 2013
There is a difference between a book that is sad because it thoughtfully explores a sad topic and a book that feels emotionally manipulative because it just throws a lot sad events in your face and tells you how sad they are. Whether a book comes down to one of or the other is, I think, a matter of personal experience. It comes down to how much the book resonates with you and reflects the ways you've lived those sorts of sad things.
This one, to me, felt like it fell into the second camp. And I don't really know how to discuss that without get too spoilery, but I will try:
Sam gets fired from his job as a software engineer for an online dating company when he creates an algorithm that is able to find the perfect match for its users...meaning they'll no longer need to pay for the services. Silver lining: he meets Meredith using his algorithm and, of course, the two are a perfect match. Then Meredith's grandmother passes away and, wanting to help ameliorate her grief, Sam writes another algorithm. His dating algorithm explored your electronic communications to find out what you really mean when you say you want to meet someone "smart and funny." The RePose algorithm, as it comes to be known, explores the electronic communications of a loved one that's passed away so that it can effectively mimic an email or Skype conversation on behalf of said loved one. Meredith is sort-of able to talk to her grandmother again, and the two eventually decide to turn the algorithm into a company to provide the service to other people.
That's not very spoilery -- that all happens in the first fifty pages, and it's covered in the jacket flap. And I think that would have been all well and good except for the fact that neither the characters nor their love story is particularly well-developed. A whole lot of telling-not-showing, most of the story takes place in dialogue and I never felt I got to know them aside from what they said to each other. Their flirtations were cute but there just wasn't a lot of depth there.
Then there's a sad plot twist that comes almost out of nowhere, except I was sort of expecting it. That's all well and good, too, because that's the way these things happen in real life and I know that as well as anyone. It just felt to me as though Frankel was saying, "You know what would be really sad?" And everything in the back third of the book is described in such morose terms. But it felt exaggerated, over-the-top in its bleakness. It didn't feel genuine to me, it felt...emotionally manipulative. I'd include some quotes, but I feel like that would be giving too much away here.
There are some interesting implications explored in this book -- does RePose and the ideas behind it aid or impede the normal grieving process? What are the limits of technology when it comes to experiencing human emotions? Ultimately, though, these ideas get drowned out with the trying to be sad.
This one, to me, felt like it fell into the second camp. And I don't really know how to discuss that without get too spoilery, but I will try:
Sam gets fired from his job as a software engineer for an online dating company when he creates an algorithm that is able to find the perfect match for its users...meaning they'll no longer need to pay for the services. Silver lining: he meets Meredith using his algorithm and, of course, the two are a perfect match. Then Meredith's grandmother passes away and, wanting to help ameliorate her grief, Sam writes another algorithm. His dating algorithm explored your electronic communications to find out what you really mean when you say you want to meet someone "smart and funny." The RePose algorithm, as it comes to be known, explores the electronic communications of a loved one that's passed away so that it can effectively mimic an email or Skype conversation on behalf of said loved one. Meredith is sort-of able to talk to her grandmother again, and the two eventually decide to turn the algorithm into a company to provide the service to other people.
That's not very spoilery -- that all happens in the first fifty pages, and it's covered in the jacket flap. And I think that would have been all well and good except for the fact that neither the characters nor their love story is particularly well-developed. A whole lot of telling-not-showing, most of the story takes place in dialogue and I never felt I got to know them aside from what they said to each other. Their flirtations were cute but there just wasn't a lot of depth there.
Then there's a sad plot twist that comes almost out of nowhere, except I was sort of expecting it. That's all well and good, too, because that's the way these things happen in real life and I know that as well as anyone. It just felt to me as though Frankel was saying, "You know what would be really sad?" And everything in the back third of the book is described in such morose terms. But it felt exaggerated, over-the-top in its bleakness. It didn't feel genuine to me, it felt...emotionally manipulative. I'd include some quotes, but I feel like that would be giving too much away here.
There are some interesting implications explored in this book -- does RePose and the ideas behind it aid or impede the normal grieving process? What are the limits of technology when it comes to experiencing human emotions? Ultimately, though, these ideas get drowned out with the trying to be sad.
August 22, 2012
There are no words to describe how I'm feeling now that I've finished Laurie Frankel's hopeful and heartbreaking Goodbye for Now. I absolutely loved the book although it really affected me emotionally, and I'm also sad I'm done with it.
Sam Elling is an extremely intelligent computer programmer who works for an internet dating company. He creates an algorithm to find your perfect soul mate, and testing it out on himself, meets the love of his life, Meredith, who works for the same company. The bad news is that Sam gets fired because the algorithm is so successful that his company starts losing money, because people don't need to try and find their soul mate more than once.
One day Meredith's beloved grandmother, Livvie, dies. She is devastated by this loss and wishes she could keep communicating with her. To try and help Meredith through the grieving process, Sam creates a computer program through which Meredith can email Livvie and Livvie—or a computer simulation of her—responds, as it accesses previous emails and other online conversations to develop its communications. And then, because Meredith used to chat via video with her grandmother a lot, Sam creates a video simulation as well. But does this truly help the grieving process?
Sam, Meredith, and her cousin, Dash, begin adapting the program (now called Re-Pose) to help grieving people communicate with their dead loved ones. For some it's cathartic, for some it's necessary, and for some it brings comfort. But as they see the ramifications of their innovation they begin to wonder if they're doing the right thing. And when tragedy strikes, they are confronted with the decision of whether being able to communicate with the one they lost is really helping.
If you've ever lost someone you cared about deeply—parent, spouse, partner, child, sibling, grandparent, friend, or anyone you loved—and wished you could talk to them one more time, this is a book for you. For me, it hit home on so many levels, as I identified with the emotions and desires these characters had. This was such an innovative yet meaningful idea, and not only does Laurie Frankel pull it off magnificently, but she helps you to see both sides of the idea. This book made me laugh and boy, did it make me cry.
Read this book. Have tissues at the ready, but read it.
Sam Elling is an extremely intelligent computer programmer who works for an internet dating company. He creates an algorithm to find your perfect soul mate, and testing it out on himself, meets the love of his life, Meredith, who works for the same company. The bad news is that Sam gets fired because the algorithm is so successful that his company starts losing money, because people don't need to try and find their soul mate more than once.
One day Meredith's beloved grandmother, Livvie, dies. She is devastated by this loss and wishes she could keep communicating with her. To try and help Meredith through the grieving process, Sam creates a computer program through which Meredith can email Livvie and Livvie—or a computer simulation of her—responds, as it accesses previous emails and other online conversations to develop its communications. And then, because Meredith used to chat via video with her grandmother a lot, Sam creates a video simulation as well. But does this truly help the grieving process?
Sam, Meredith, and her cousin, Dash, begin adapting the program (now called Re-Pose) to help grieving people communicate with their dead loved ones. For some it's cathartic, for some it's necessary, and for some it brings comfort. But as they see the ramifications of their innovation they begin to wonder if they're doing the right thing. And when tragedy strikes, they are confronted with the decision of whether being able to communicate with the one they lost is really helping.
If you've ever lost someone you cared about deeply—parent, spouse, partner, child, sibling, grandparent, friend, or anyone you loved—and wished you could talk to them one more time, this is a book for you. For me, it hit home on so many levels, as I identified with the emotions and desires these characters had. This was such an innovative yet meaningful idea, and not only does Laurie Frankel pull it off magnificently, but she helps you to see both sides of the idea. This book made me laugh and boy, did it make me cry.
Read this book. Have tissues at the ready, but read it.
February 11, 2024
Catching up…
Can technology change everything? Can it be responsible for helping people find their perfect match?
Or…
Better yet, simulate someone we love and have lost, so that we can find a way through our grief, as we summon that person through emails, or video chats, so that our goodbyes can be healed easier?
So…
Can we ease our grief or complete unfinished business by interacting with a computer simulation?
And…
What happens when that simulation learns and changes, even though the original loved one stopped developing at death?
Seems simple. Appears logical.
But…
Is it really?
Does it also feel icky too, to seemingly bring back the dead this way?
Well…
If we concentrate on the story and the characters, maybe the science won’t matter.
Especially…
When the characters feel so quirky, sweet-natured, colorful and interesting.
But…
Then something happens. (No spoilers here.)
So…
Will this particular event still allow readers to feel hopeful in the essential goodness of people?
A book that grips readers, makes us laugh, and cry, and think. Perhaps, that is a good thing?
3.5 stars rounded up.
Can technology change everything? Can it be responsible for helping people find their perfect match?
Or…
Better yet, simulate someone we love and have lost, so that we can find a way through our grief, as we summon that person through emails, or video chats, so that our goodbyes can be healed easier?
So…
Can we ease our grief or complete unfinished business by interacting with a computer simulation?
And…
What happens when that simulation learns and changes, even though the original loved one stopped developing at death?
Seems simple. Appears logical.
But…
Is it really?
Does it also feel icky too, to seemingly bring back the dead this way?
Well…
If we concentrate on the story and the characters, maybe the science won’t matter.
Especially…
When the characters feel so quirky, sweet-natured, colorful and interesting.
But…
Then something happens. (No spoilers here.)
So…
Will this particular event still allow readers to feel hopeful in the essential goodness of people?
A book that grips readers, makes us laugh, and cry, and think. Perhaps, that is a good thing?
3.5 stars rounded up.
January 28, 2013
Eh. Fascinating concept. Mediocre execution.
What would grieving for a deceased loved one be like if a computer could generate a sort of alter ego for the loved one, using all of the loved one's e-mails, video-chats, etc. to generate a facsimile of the loved one to communicate with you? Would that be a very good thing or a very bad thing?
This question lies at the heart of Goodbye for Now. Our protagonist, a computer geek named Sam, has shown himself to be brilliant at using computer programming to redefine social interaction (i.e., a way-too-successful matching program for daters which threatens to put his boss out of business). Sam then outdoes himself by creating a program that allows his grieving girlfriend to communicate with her beloved deceased grandmother. Or a computer-generated version of her grandmother anyway. Which begs a lot of questions.
Without even going into all the suspension of disbelief demanded by such a premise (and there was a great deal, too much for my taste -- the computerized projections' responsiveness and authenticity were quite over the top, which I guess was necessary or there wouldn't have been much of a book), could a computerized projection of a dead loved one (DLOs, in Sam's parlance as his program gains popularity) ever be completely authentic? How three-dimensional (emotionally, not physically) could this projection actually be, and how satisfying could it really be to communicate with them?
As it happens, one of my issues with the book's execution is that I found all of the characters rather flat -- the way computerized projections of people might move through life, perhaps. Sam and Meredith, his girlfriend, fall in love quickly and conveniently without any fits or starts. Sam himself seems rather inauthentic to me -- maybe because he seems like a female fantasy of an ardent, geeky (and therefore nonthreatening) but somehow charming male. The other characters also seem to be going through the motions so as to move the book forward and into exploring what the author wishes to explore through her characters. Even the dialogue feels computer-generated -- stilted and awkward, but steadily propelling the plot in the direction it needs to go.
It is interesting to contemplate whether the finality of death is positive or negative. Is it good for us and for our grieving process that DLOs are completely cut off from our conscious experience? Would it be a good thing if we were suddenly able to reach out to our DLOs and they could answer us? Would that be a good thing even if their interactions with us were merely various permutations of things they'd already said? And then, of course, there's the whole artificial intelligence question about whether computers could ever overtake humans in terms of their own learning, creativity, etc.
So overall, a very creative and interesting concept. If only the book's writing and characterization had been as fully realized.
What would grieving for a deceased loved one be like if a computer could generate a sort of alter ego for the loved one, using all of the loved one's e-mails, video-chats, etc. to generate a facsimile of the loved one to communicate with you? Would that be a very good thing or a very bad thing?
This question lies at the heart of Goodbye for Now. Our protagonist, a computer geek named Sam, has shown himself to be brilliant at using computer programming to redefine social interaction (i.e., a way-too-successful matching program for daters which threatens to put his boss out of business). Sam then outdoes himself by creating a program that allows his grieving girlfriend to communicate with her beloved deceased grandmother. Or a computer-generated version of her grandmother anyway. Which begs a lot of questions.
Without even going into all the suspension of disbelief demanded by such a premise (and there was a great deal, too much for my taste -- the computerized projections' responsiveness and authenticity were quite over the top, which I guess was necessary or there wouldn't have been much of a book), could a computerized projection of a dead loved one (DLOs, in Sam's parlance as his program gains popularity) ever be completely authentic? How three-dimensional (emotionally, not physically) could this projection actually be, and how satisfying could it really be to communicate with them?
As it happens, one of my issues with the book's execution is that I found all of the characters rather flat -- the way computerized projections of people might move through life, perhaps. Sam and Meredith, his girlfriend, fall in love quickly and conveniently without any fits or starts. Sam himself seems rather inauthentic to me -- maybe because he seems like a female fantasy of an ardent, geeky (and therefore nonthreatening) but somehow charming male. The other characters also seem to be going through the motions so as to move the book forward and into exploring what the author wishes to explore through her characters. Even the dialogue feels computer-generated -- stilted and awkward, but steadily propelling the plot in the direction it needs to go.
It is interesting to contemplate whether the finality of death is positive or negative. Is it good for us and for our grieving process that DLOs are completely cut off from our conscious experience? Would it be a good thing if we were suddenly able to reach out to our DLOs and they could answer us? Would that be a good thing even if their interactions with us were merely various permutations of things they'd already said? And then, of course, there's the whole artificial intelligence question about whether computers could ever overtake humans in terms of their own learning, creativity, etc.
So overall, a very creative and interesting concept. If only the book's writing and characterization had been as fully realized.
August 19, 2012
Gorgeous. Amusing. Extremely relevant. Heart-breaking and thought-provoking. Goodbye for Now is a book that will live on in readers' memories long after finishing the book.
I'm going to try and make the review of this book intentionally vague because it's a book that everyone should own, and hug, and cherish. Discover on their own. I really can't say HOW MUCH this book affected me given the current circumstances of my life. People die. That a given. But the people that are left behind, grieving the loss of a loved one, that's a role that all of us are condemned to play at some point in their life. If I get off topic, I apologize. My fiance's grandmother is terminally ill, in the hospital, getting worse everyday; his grandfather is also ill, something that hasn't yet affected him yet but will no doubt affect him in the very near future. My own grandmother is losing her sense of reality everyday, growing old but refusing to acknowledge her infirmities. This book struck a cord with me, strummed the strings of my psyche, and made me ache inside. "Death is for life," after all. But it's the lives of those who are living, left only with the pain of their memories, that this book tries to capture. (Side note: This book is immediately being passed on to my fiance's mother, who is currently wallowing in the mire of dealing with the impending loss of her parents. An ENORMOUS thank you to both Doubleday and Laurie Frankel for allowing me this GoodReads FirstReads win. I intend to recommend this book to all persons who love literary fiction, lovers of books that cause you to evaluate your beliefs, challenge your outlook on life and tear-up over exquisitely formed sentences and plot.
I honestly can't believe how attached I grew to these characters; Sam, Meredith, Dash and Salon Styx/RePose customers were three-dimensional, endearing persons. For a quirky, hilarious novel, Goodbye for Now delves into the philosophy surrounding death and mourning in a particularly apt manner. I am immediately adding Laurie Frankel's other novel, The Atlas of Love, to my "to-read" list. She is a masterful storyteller, and if Goodbye for Now is characteristic of her genius, I'll be a reader of her's for life.
Love, love, and more love for this book. True story. This book will chew you up and spit you out in the most positive way possible. Go on - pick it up and say it didn't captivate your heart and soul. I double-dog-dare you.
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I'm going to try and make the review of this book intentionally vague because it's a book that everyone should own, and hug, and cherish. Discover on their own. I really can't say HOW MUCH this book affected me given the current circumstances of my life. People die. That a given. But the people that are left behind, grieving the loss of a loved one, that's a role that all of us are condemned to play at some point in their life. If I get off topic, I apologize. My fiance's grandmother is terminally ill, in the hospital, getting worse everyday; his grandfather is also ill, something that hasn't yet affected him yet but will no doubt affect him in the very near future. My own grandmother is losing her sense of reality everyday, growing old but refusing to acknowledge her infirmities. This book struck a cord with me, strummed the strings of my psyche, and made me ache inside. "Death is for life," after all. But it's the lives of those who are living, left only with the pain of their memories, that this book tries to capture. (Side note: This book is immediately being passed on to my fiance's mother, who is currently wallowing in the mire of dealing with the impending loss of her parents. An ENORMOUS thank you to both Doubleday and Laurie Frankel for allowing me this GoodReads FirstReads win. I intend to recommend this book to all persons who love literary fiction, lovers of books that cause you to evaluate your beliefs, challenge your outlook on life and tear-up over exquisitely formed sentences and plot.
I honestly can't believe how attached I grew to these characters; Sam, Meredith, Dash and Salon Styx/RePose customers were three-dimensional, endearing persons. For a quirky, hilarious novel, Goodbye for Now delves into the philosophy surrounding death and mourning in a particularly apt manner. I am immediately adding Laurie Frankel's other novel, The Atlas of Love, to my "to-read" list. She is a masterful storyteller, and if Goodbye for Now is characteristic of her genius, I'll be a reader of her's for life.
Love, love, and more love for this book. True story. This book will chew you up and spit you out in the most positive way possible. Go on - pick it up and say it didn't captivate your heart and soul. I double-dog-dare you.
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July 23, 2020
I know this will be one of my bests for 2020.
The set-up is just genius. A crack programmer figures out how to run a database on all the videos, emails, texts, tweets, social media blurbs, blogs, etc of a person's life...so that when that person dies, a video can "speak" or text or tweet to their living loved ones.
So the first of many book club questions--is it good to "speak" with a video of a DLO (dead loved one) to get closure or creepy?
Second book club question--Are our conversations all on an endless loop as we get older? For example, when Grandma (DLO) is called in the book, she repeatedly asks the grandkids to come visit her. Over. And over. And over. "You work too hard." "The weather is sunny." (Sure, she's in Florida.) "Gotta go." Makes you realize that 75% of our conversations are just comments like that.
Obviously there's alot of death and dying in the book. One of the strongest points Frankel makes (and one of those things I knew, but couldn't put in words myself) is that the person left behind has changed. They're growing in a different direction than the DLO. How can you chat with a DLO and complain, say about insurance claims or being lonely, when the DLO has no point of reference dealing with that?
Third book club question: Who deals with the virtual DLOs when their main contact dies themself? If the chain continues, is it possible to feel responsible and answer calls from more DLOs than live people?
One comment about the cover. Bring that pretty blue cover back with the model planes. If I had seen this fuzzy sillouette cover I would have thought it was a tragic romance and never checked it out.
The set-up is just genius. A crack programmer figures out how to run a database on all the videos, emails, texts, tweets, social media blurbs, blogs, etc of a person's life...so that when that person dies, a video can "speak" or text or tweet to their living loved ones.
So the first of many book club questions--is it good to "speak" with a video of a DLO (dead loved one) to get closure or creepy?
Second book club question--Are our conversations all on an endless loop as we get older? For example, when Grandma (DLO) is called in the book, she repeatedly asks the grandkids to come visit her. Over. And over. And over. "You work too hard." "The weather is sunny." (Sure, she's in Florida.) "Gotta go." Makes you realize that 75% of our conversations are just comments like that.
Obviously there's alot of death and dying in the book. One of the strongest points Frankel makes (and one of those things I knew, but couldn't put in words myself) is that the person left behind has changed. They're growing in a different direction than the DLO. How can you chat with a DLO and complain, say about insurance claims or being lonely, when the DLO has no point of reference dealing with that?
Third book club question: Who deals with the virtual DLOs when their main contact dies themself? If the chain continues, is it possible to feel responsible and answer calls from more DLOs than live people?
One comment about the cover. Bring that pretty blue cover back with the model planes. If I had seen this fuzzy sillouette cover I would have thought it was a tragic romance and never checked it out.
August 6, 2012
I laughed, I cried, I honestly loved this book. Goodbye for Now is a truly unique novel that focuses on how we love, how we grieve and how we let go. Sam, a computer programmer, works for an online dating company and develops a program that can match people with their one true soul mate by looking at their true interests and honest online communication. Sam tests the program on himself and is matched up with Meredith, a woman who works just down the hall from him; their relationship quickly proves that Sam's program was right on - the couple is a perfect match.
Though it looks like everything is going well in their relationship, when Meredith's grandmother passes away unexpectedly, she breaks down. Out of love and the desire to help her with her grief, Sam uses his relationship algorithm to create a program that allows Meredith to "communicate" with her grandmother through e-mail and video chat. Soon, Meredith and her cousin, Dash, urge Sam to turn his program into a business - it has helped them cope in a way that they never imagined, and they are certain that it will help others who are grieving as well. As their business (aptly named RePose) grows, Sam and Meredith's relationship continues to bloom. Sam, Meredith, and Dash become adept at helping the mourners who seek their help, and watch as RePose becomes a vehicle for healing. In a twist of events, however, tragedy hits close to home, and the technological tool which was created to help others will be desperately needed by the team. I don't want to spoil the ending, so I won't give any more details, but this story is absolutely great. It is a touching story that brings up the subjects of how we grieve and the never-ending power of love.
Although love and technology seem like mutually exclusive concepts, Laurie Frankel does a wonderful job blending them together in this adorable and touching story. While it does have moments of tragedy, it is far from a sob-story - Frankel does a lovely job of making this into a contemporary love story and touching readers' hearts with believable characters, universal questions, and modern themes. Furthermore, as a Northwest writer, Frankel has local details incorporated into this story, making it an extra-special treat for those acquainted with Washington state. This is a truly great read! From Shelfishness.blog.com
Though it looks like everything is going well in their relationship, when Meredith's grandmother passes away unexpectedly, she breaks down. Out of love and the desire to help her with her grief, Sam uses his relationship algorithm to create a program that allows Meredith to "communicate" with her grandmother through e-mail and video chat. Soon, Meredith and her cousin, Dash, urge Sam to turn his program into a business - it has helped them cope in a way that they never imagined, and they are certain that it will help others who are grieving as well. As their business (aptly named RePose) grows, Sam and Meredith's relationship continues to bloom. Sam, Meredith, and Dash become adept at helping the mourners who seek their help, and watch as RePose becomes a vehicle for healing. In a twist of events, however, tragedy hits close to home, and the technological tool which was created to help others will be desperately needed by the team. I don't want to spoil the ending, so I won't give any more details, but this story is absolutely great. It is a touching story that brings up the subjects of how we grieve and the never-ending power of love.
Although love and technology seem like mutually exclusive concepts, Laurie Frankel does a wonderful job blending them together in this adorable and touching story. While it does have moments of tragedy, it is far from a sob-story - Frankel does a lovely job of making this into a contemporary love story and touching readers' hearts with believable characters, universal questions, and modern themes. Furthermore, as a Northwest writer, Frankel has local details incorporated into this story, making it an extra-special treat for those acquainted with Washington state. This is a truly great read! From Shelfishness.blog.com
December 3, 2017
Mithilfe eines Computers hat Sam seine Traumfrau Meredith gefunden. Als deren Oma Livvie stirbt, versucht er sie zu trösten: Er lässt seinen Rechner aus alten E-Mails von Livvie eine neue Nachricht generieren, wie die Oma sie geschrieben haben könnte. Meredith ist begeistert! Sie will weiter mit ihrer virtuellen Livvie kommunizieren. Und sie will anderen ebenfalls die Möglichkeit bieten, auf diese Weise mit ihren geliebten Verstorbenen in Kontakt zu bleiben. Doch damit beginnen die Probleme. Und auch die tiefe Liebe zwischen Sam und Meredith steht bald vor einer gigantischen Prüfung.
Das Scherenschnitt-Cover und die Beschreibung haben mich das Buch mit einer gewissen Skepsis zur Hand nehmen lassen. Die Geschichte hat aber dann doch durch die sympatischen und nachvollziehbaren Charaktere und den flüssigen Erzählstil überzeugt. Schade, dass es mich in einer schlechten Lesezeit erwischt hat sonst wäre es schon viel schneller gelesen worden. Ich fand die Gedanken der Autorin dazu, was passieren würde, wenn wir tatsächlich eine solche Technologie hätten, wahnsinnig interessant. Es stellt sich auch die moralische Frage, wie weit man gehen darf. Auch die Beziehung zwischen den Protagonisten ist zwar sehr romantisch aber nicht kitschig. All diese spannenden Themen wurden meiner Meinung nach sehr gut umgesetzt. Und am Ende habe ich doch einen Taschentuch gebraucht. Nicht viele Bücher können mich so bewegen.
Das Scherenschnitt-Cover und die Beschreibung haben mich das Buch mit einer gewissen Skepsis zur Hand nehmen lassen. Die Geschichte hat aber dann doch durch die sympatischen und nachvollziehbaren Charaktere und den flüssigen Erzählstil überzeugt. Schade, dass es mich in einer schlechten Lesezeit erwischt hat sonst wäre es schon viel schneller gelesen worden. Ich fand die Gedanken der Autorin dazu, was passieren würde, wenn wir tatsächlich eine solche Technologie hätten, wahnsinnig interessant. Es stellt sich auch die moralische Frage, wie weit man gehen darf. Auch die Beziehung zwischen den Protagonisten ist zwar sehr romantisch aber nicht kitschig. All diese spannenden Themen wurden meiner Meinung nach sehr gut umgesetzt. Und am Ende habe ich doch einen Taschentuch gebraucht. Nicht viele Bücher können mich so bewegen.
August 9, 2012
Originally published at Reading Reality
What happens to us after we die is the province of religion and philosophy. The ones we leave behind go through an entirely different process, we grieve the loss. We mourn the hole that person has left in our lives; we heal the broken places, we eventually move past it.
But what happens when, out of a different kind of love, someone uses technology to short-circuit that grieving process? If you can stay in denial indefinitely, are you healed, or are you just broken differently?
In Laurie Frankel's latest novel, Goodbye for Now, she asks one of the biggest questions of all. What if love, with a little help from technology, meant that you really never did have to say goodbye? Would that be wonderful? Or terrible? Or both?
Sam Elling is definitely a genius programmer. It's both the good news and the bad news. Like so many very geeky people, he's great at the technical stuff, but not necessarily so good at the social stuff. Considering that Sam works for an internet dating company, it's almost ironic. So Sam creates an algorithm that matches people with their soul mate, and it works perfectly. He knows it works perfectly because he uses it for himself first, and it brings him the love of his life, Meredith.
It also gets him fired. Internet dating companies thrive on repeat business. People who find their soul mates on the first try, well, they don't come back.
Sam still figures he's ahead. He not only got a terrific severance package, he got Meredith. He can always find another job, but another soul mate? Not a chance.
But Meredith's love for Sam has come with a profound loss. At the same time that Sam walked into her life, her beloved grandmother Livvie stepped out of it. Livvie died. In the fullness of her years, but still, Livvie was Meredith's rock, and now, Livvie is gone.
Sam has time on his hands, and Meredith wants Livvie back. Just a bit of her. Meredith wants to be able to email her and get a response, just like she used to do when Livvie was in Florida for the winter. There's lots of email to work with, and well, it's just another algorithm. And a little artificial intelligence. Sort of like the old computer program ELIZA, only more complicated.
And more addictive. Once Meredith gets that first email from Livvie, she's hooked. She has her grandmother back. Livvie's just in Florida. Merde (Sam really does call her Merde) knows it's not really Livvie, but it sounds just like her. It does.
And Merde is happy again. And she wants to share the gift with other people who are grieving. From Sam's need to help the woman he loves, suddenly they have a business ameliorating, (or is it extending?) the grief of hundreds.
Until it all crashes down.
Escape Rating B: Goodbye for Now sticks with you because of the questions it asks. As a love story, it is heartbreaking, but I'm not sure that was the point. I keep going back to what it says about those we leave behind, and how people deal with getting over the loss of a loved one.
You probably will have the same reaction I did when I finished, which was to go hug everyone you love (including petting any animals you have). Goodbye for Now definitely gets at that sense of how grief mows you down.
Then I started thinking, not so much about the tech as about the human side. The fascinating and scary thing about the tech side is that it will probably become possible sooner than we think. And would people become addicted to "emailing" the dead? Even knowing it wasn't real? Heck yes, some people will get addicted to anything. Looking toward the past would be more comfortable than forging a new and scary future.
As a story, I think I was expecting more tech gadgetry and less contemplation. But the questions that Goodbye for Now asks about grief and the human response are profound and well worth contemplating.
What happens to us after we die is the province of religion and philosophy. The ones we leave behind go through an entirely different process, we grieve the loss. We mourn the hole that person has left in our lives; we heal the broken places, we eventually move past it.
But what happens when, out of a different kind of love, someone uses technology to short-circuit that grieving process? If you can stay in denial indefinitely, are you healed, or are you just broken differently?
In Laurie Frankel's latest novel, Goodbye for Now, she asks one of the biggest questions of all. What if love, with a little help from technology, meant that you really never did have to say goodbye? Would that be wonderful? Or terrible? Or both?
Sam Elling is definitely a genius programmer. It's both the good news and the bad news. Like so many very geeky people, he's great at the technical stuff, but not necessarily so good at the social stuff. Considering that Sam works for an internet dating company, it's almost ironic. So Sam creates an algorithm that matches people with their soul mate, and it works perfectly. He knows it works perfectly because he uses it for himself first, and it brings him the love of his life, Meredith.
It also gets him fired. Internet dating companies thrive on repeat business. People who find their soul mates on the first try, well, they don't come back.
Sam still figures he's ahead. He not only got a terrific severance package, he got Meredith. He can always find another job, but another soul mate? Not a chance.
But Meredith's love for Sam has come with a profound loss. At the same time that Sam walked into her life, her beloved grandmother Livvie stepped out of it. Livvie died. In the fullness of her years, but still, Livvie was Meredith's rock, and now, Livvie is gone.
Sam has time on his hands, and Meredith wants Livvie back. Just a bit of her. Meredith wants to be able to email her and get a response, just like she used to do when Livvie was in Florida for the winter. There's lots of email to work with, and well, it's just another algorithm. And a little artificial intelligence. Sort of like the old computer program ELIZA, only more complicated.
And more addictive. Once Meredith gets that first email from Livvie, she's hooked. She has her grandmother back. Livvie's just in Florida. Merde (Sam really does call her Merde) knows it's not really Livvie, but it sounds just like her. It does.
And Merde is happy again. And she wants to share the gift with other people who are grieving. From Sam's need to help the woman he loves, suddenly they have a business ameliorating, (or is it extending?) the grief of hundreds.
Until it all crashes down.
Escape Rating B: Goodbye for Now sticks with you because of the questions it asks. As a love story, it is heartbreaking, but I'm not sure that was the point. I keep going back to what it says about those we leave behind, and how people deal with getting over the loss of a loved one.
You probably will have the same reaction I did when I finished, which was to go hug everyone you love (including petting any animals you have). Goodbye for Now definitely gets at that sense of how grief mows you down.
Then I started thinking, not so much about the tech as about the human side. The fascinating and scary thing about the tech side is that it will probably become possible sooner than we think. And would people become addicted to "emailing" the dead? Even knowing it wasn't real? Heck yes, some people will get addicted to anything. Looking toward the past would be more comfortable than forging a new and scary future.
As a story, I think I was expecting more tech gadgetry and less contemplation. But the questions that Goodbye for Now asks about grief and the human response are profound and well worth contemplating.
September 20, 2012
I loved this book, even if it did break my heart just a little.
Sam is a great computer programmer. So great, in fact, that he creates an algorithm for his workplace - a computer dating service - that actually lets people find their soulmates. And fast. He tests it, and finds his own soulmate, Meredith, who he falls hard for (and vice versa) from the first date. The only problem is, when everyone finds their soulmate right off the bat, the company collects no monthly membership fees. You see where this is going, don't you? Sam gets fired.
While he's filling his days jogging, playing with Meredith's dogs and learning to cook, his relationship grows. But then, tragedy strikes and Meredith's grandma passes away. She is so broken that all he can think of is that he needs to find a way to help her reconnect with her loved one, especially when she says she'd give anything for just one more email. Back to the drawing board goes Sam, who creates this time a program that sees who a person really is through all their online activity - much like his soulmate program - and composes an email for Meredith.
Oh this book is so lovely. I adored Sam and Meredith both, and heck, even Livvie, the departed Grandma. I loved the world they were in, and I loved the premise of it all. Since in the real world, I love an IT guy myself, it touched me even more. The writing style was comfortable and conversational, but with some really amazing moments that elevate it to the art form it's meant to be. The characters are fantastic and very real. And I could see exactly how these programs would work, unlike some who've mentioned in reviews that they had trouble suspending disbelief, because I know how programs work, basically. It sparked a lot of conversations between my husband and I about the nature of human relationships and how the advent of AI will alter our realities.
In short, loved, loved, loved this book. I'll be looking for more from this author. I'd recommend this one to anyone who can read, it's that wonderful, but especially anyone with a relation to the computer industry.
*Book received at no cost through the GoodReads First Reads program
Sam is a great computer programmer. So great, in fact, that he creates an algorithm for his workplace - a computer dating service - that actually lets people find their soulmates. And fast. He tests it, and finds his own soulmate, Meredith, who he falls hard for (and vice versa) from the first date. The only problem is, when everyone finds their soulmate right off the bat, the company collects no monthly membership fees. You see where this is going, don't you? Sam gets fired.
While he's filling his days jogging, playing with Meredith's dogs and learning to cook, his relationship grows. But then, tragedy strikes and Meredith's grandma passes away. She is so broken that all he can think of is that he needs to find a way to help her reconnect with her loved one, especially when she says she'd give anything for just one more email. Back to the drawing board goes Sam, who creates this time a program that sees who a person really is through all their online activity - much like his soulmate program - and composes an email for Meredith.
Oh this book is so lovely. I adored Sam and Meredith both, and heck, even Livvie, the departed Grandma. I loved the world they were in, and I loved the premise of it all. Since in the real world, I love an IT guy myself, it touched me even more. The writing style was comfortable and conversational, but with some really amazing moments that elevate it to the art form it's meant to be. The characters are fantastic and very real. And I could see exactly how these programs would work, unlike some who've mentioned in reviews that they had trouble suspending disbelief, because I know how programs work, basically. It sparked a lot of conversations between my husband and I about the nature of human relationships and how the advent of AI will alter our realities.
In short, loved, loved, loved this book. I'll be looking for more from this author. I'd recommend this one to anyone who can read, it's that wonderful, but especially anyone with a relation to the computer industry.
*Book received at no cost through the GoodReads First Reads program
October 23, 2012
All the reviews were good so I decided to dive into this intriguing concept. I began this book curious to learn if technology really can ease the mourning process when a loved one or friend passes on. I came away with mixed feelings on the subject. It's certainly not for everyone. The choice to use a service such as Sam creates is as individual as we are. Mourning is a process, steps to being OK in the world without your beloved. Talking to a computer version of a treasured human being would appear to prolong the process keeping the pain of loss very much alive. As in 12 step programs there is the 13th step. Living on.
Midway through I found it difficult to continue it slows somewhat at this point. I didn't want to read about death, dying and sadness anymore. Death is in our lives every minute of every day but I prefer to focus on the joy of sharing life with those I love while we are all still here.
Midway through I found it difficult to continue it slows somewhat at this point. I didn't want to read about death, dying and sadness anymore. Death is in our lives every minute of every day but I prefer to focus on the joy of sharing life with those I love while we are all still here.
November 10, 2012
This was a NY Times editor's choice book and I have no clue why. Cliche, boring characters, a predictable storyline, plus a needless hot yoga sex scene I almost threw up while skimming through. OK idea, but poorly executed. And SPOILER ALERT, I cry at EVERYTHING so when you try to tug at my heartstrings with the death of a main character and I feel nothing, that is some really bad writing.
April 20, 2022
#1/2021.
Prva pročitana knjiga 2021. godine je „Zbogom zasad“ Laurie Frankel. Knjigu sam ljeto prije toga neplanirano kupila i sad mi je vrlo drago zbog toga. I danas (2022.) je spominjem i prepričavam. Na zadnjoj strani korica pisalo je da je to ljubavna priča 21. vijeka u kojoj se komunikacija putem društvenih mreža proteže na drugu stranu ovog života (ali ona je puno više od toga)... dalje nisam ni trebala čitati. Podsjetila me je na knjigu „Odaja sjećanja“ Holly Cave... Dugo je čekala da dođe na red za čitanje, pošto sam već ranije nakupovala dosta knjiga, ali došla je u savršenom trenutku. Ukratko, u knjizi se protežu razne teme i oblasti... Kreće se od korporativnog kapitalističkog odnosa preduzeća prema svom uposleniku (Sam Elling), kompjuterskom geniju koji je tada bio zaposlen u jednoj firmi za online pronalaženje partnera. Sam Elling je kreirao tzv. Algoritam ljubavi koji nepogrešivo spaja srodne duše. Algoritam je bio interesantan po tome što je koristio stvarne podatke o korisnicima, a ne ono što se oni pretvaraju da jesu, te se zasnivao i na onom što oni stvarno žele od partnera a ne na onom što se ljudi pred sobom i pred drugima pretvaraju da traže od partnera. Naravno, to nije dobro za firmu jer, iako je algoritam savršen, iako se veliki broj ljudi učlani i odmah preko njihove agencije pronađu savršenog partnera, problem je što se onda ispišu i odjave, jer nemaju više potrebe za plaćanjem članarine, pošto su pronašli svog idealnog partnera, svoju srodnu dušu. Sam dobija otkaz jer to šefovima baš i nije toliko profitabilno... Ali to nije kraj, to je tek početak. Sam je upravo preko svog algoritma upoznao Meredith, ženu svog života. Ljubavnu idilu u samom startu narušava smrt njene bake Livvie. Sam, zaljubljeni genij, učinio je sve kako bi olakšao tugovanje svojoj voljenoj. On kreira softver koji bi joj na neki način omogućio da i dalje bude u kontaktu sa pokojnom bakom. Uz pomoć kompjuterske simulacije od starih bakinih e-mailova, SMS-ova i videochat-ova Sam stvara nove, onakve kakve bi baka, da je živa, i sama pisala i vodila. Meredith je, nakon početnog šoka, bila oduševljena i dobila je ideju da bi nešto takvo moglo pomoći i drugima da prebole odlazak svojih voljenih. Zatim njih dvoje, uz pomoć Meredithinog rođaka (daidžića, sina od ujaka) Dasha pokreću preduzeće za komunikaciju sa preminulima. Autorka se odlično pozabavila i svim mogućim i nemogućim pitanjima vezanim sa rad takvog preduzeća, kao npr. da li korištenje programa zaista pomaže korisnicima da lakše podnose i prebole gubitak voljene osobe ili samo odlažu najneugodniju fazu žalovanja, a to je faza kada ljudi u potpunosti shvate svoj gubitak i preplavi ih snažno osjećanje tuge, razna etička pitanja i situacije vezane za odnose sa javnošću, pogotovo kod polariziranih mišljenja javnosti, vjerskih institucija i slično. Da li reći udovici nakon 61 godine braka da je bila u iluziji i da ju je pokojnik varao na sve strane (što su otkrili u njegovim prepiskama na kojim se inače bazira programiranje buduće "komunikacije")... Da li reći djevojci čijeg dečka je pogodila munja dok su bili na otvorenom koncertu da je u ruksaku imao prsten sa bakinim dijamantom i spremao se da je tu noć zaprosi?... Koliko je moralno opravdano nagovaranje djece onkoloških pacijenata od strane njihovih očajnih roditelja da posljednje trenutke provode na videochatu sa roditeljima, kako bi ostalo što više materijala za kasniju projekciju, umjesto da jednostavno budu u njihovom zagrljaju? Takođe se postavlja i pitanje cjenovnika usluga i omogućavanja i ljudima koji nisu toliko imućni da takođe koriste njihove usluge... Javljaju se razni korisnici koji su koristili usluge iz različitih pobuda. Tako npr. jedan korisnik je prošao cijelu proceduru samo da bi otvorio prozor u kojem je bila njegova pokojna žena i priznao joj višekratnu i višestruku nevjeru, zatvorio pozor i rekao da obustave projekciju, pošto je doživio ogromno olakšanje... Bilo je ljudi koji su željeli komunicirati sa svojim uginulim kućnim ljubimcima... Bilo je ljudi koji su samo željeli komunicirati sa nekom poznatom osobom kao npr. sa Kurtom Cobainom... Bilo je ljudi koji su prolazili cijelu proceduru samo da bi pitali pokojnu ženu gdje se nalaze ključevi od šupe i kako se rukuje mašinom za veš ili mašinom za pranje suđa... Bilo je i takvih potencijalnih korisnika koji su željeli komunicirati sa projekcijom svojih bivših parnera koji uopšte nisu bili mrtvi... Bilo je bijesnih udovica koje su bile zapostavljane ili maltretirane od strane svojih preminulih bračnih partnera pa bi doživjele katarzu tako što bi se projekciji pokojnika nagovorile svega i svačega, što se nikada nisu usudile učiniti u stvarnom životu... Kao nekom ko uvijek o svemu razmišlja u stilu – „šta ako?“, ovaj roman mi je predstavljao idealan omjer dijaloga, misli, osjećanja, promatranja svega iz različite perspektive.
Imaćete pred sobom dirljiv i nezaboravan, intrigantan roman o jačini ljubavi, o prijateljstvu, o gubitku i bolu, o prijateljstvu i dobrim djelima, o svemu što je bitno u životu... Natjeraće vas da nakon svakog poglavlja ostavite knjigu i da malo razmislite o sadržaju kojeg ste upravo pročitali... Ovo je knjiga koja će možda tražiti od vas da je pročitate u jednom dahu, ali preporučujem da je ipak pomalo degustirate, da dozvolite da vas odvede na put dijaloga sa samim sobom u vlastitim mislima... Šta biste vi lično uradili kada biste se našli u datoj situaciji...
Ocjena🤔... Pet⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
i preporuka za čitanje.
Prva pročitana knjiga 2021. godine je „Zbogom zasad“ Laurie Frankel. Knjigu sam ljeto prije toga neplanirano kupila i sad mi je vrlo drago zbog toga. I danas (2022.) je spominjem i prepričavam. Na zadnjoj strani korica pisalo je da je to ljubavna priča 21. vijeka u kojoj se komunikacija putem društvenih mreža proteže na drugu stranu ovog života (ali ona je puno više od toga)... dalje nisam ni trebala čitati. Podsjetila me je na knjigu „Odaja sjećanja“ Holly Cave... Dugo je čekala da dođe na red za čitanje, pošto sam već ranije nakupovala dosta knjiga, ali došla je u savršenom trenutku. Ukratko, u knjizi se protežu razne teme i oblasti... Kreće se od korporativnog kapitalističkog odnosa preduzeća prema svom uposleniku (Sam Elling), kompjuterskom geniju koji je tada bio zaposlen u jednoj firmi za online pronalaženje partnera. Sam Elling je kreirao tzv. Algoritam ljubavi koji nepogrešivo spaja srodne duše. Algoritam je bio interesantan po tome što je koristio stvarne podatke o korisnicima, a ne ono što se oni pretvaraju da jesu, te se zasnivao i na onom što oni stvarno žele od partnera a ne na onom što se ljudi pred sobom i pred drugima pretvaraju da traže od partnera. Naravno, to nije dobro za firmu jer, iako je algoritam savršen, iako se veliki broj ljudi učlani i odmah preko njihove agencije pronađu savršenog partnera, problem je što se onda ispišu i odjave, jer nemaju više potrebe za plaćanjem članarine, pošto su pronašli svog idealnog partnera, svoju srodnu dušu. Sam dobija otkaz jer to šefovima baš i nije toliko profitabilno... Ali to nije kraj, to je tek početak. Sam je upravo preko svog algoritma upoznao Meredith, ženu svog života. Ljubavnu idilu u samom startu narušava smrt njene bake Livvie. Sam, zaljubljeni genij, učinio je sve kako bi olakšao tugovanje svojoj voljenoj. On kreira softver koji bi joj na neki način omogućio da i dalje bude u kontaktu sa pokojnom bakom. Uz pomoć kompjuterske simulacije od starih bakinih e-mailova, SMS-ova i videochat-ova Sam stvara nove, onakve kakve bi baka, da je živa, i sama pisala i vodila. Meredith je, nakon početnog šoka, bila oduševljena i dobila je ideju da bi nešto takvo moglo pomoći i drugima da prebole odlazak svojih voljenih. Zatim njih dvoje, uz pomoć Meredithinog rođaka (daidžića, sina od ujaka) Dasha pokreću preduzeće za komunikaciju sa preminulima. Autorka se odlično pozabavila i svim mogućim i nemogućim pitanjima vezanim sa rad takvog preduzeća, kao npr. da li korištenje programa zaista pomaže korisnicima da lakše podnose i prebole gubitak voljene osobe ili samo odlažu najneugodniju fazu žalovanja, a to je faza kada ljudi u potpunosti shvate svoj gubitak i preplavi ih snažno osjećanje tuge, razna etička pitanja i situacije vezane za odnose sa javnošću, pogotovo kod polariziranih mišljenja javnosti, vjerskih institucija i slično. Da li reći udovici nakon 61 godine braka da je bila u iluziji i da ju je pokojnik varao na sve strane (što su otkrili u njegovim prepiskama na kojim se inače bazira programiranje buduće "komunikacije")... Da li reći djevojci čijeg dečka je pogodila munja dok su bili na otvorenom koncertu da je u ruksaku imao prsten sa bakinim dijamantom i spremao se da je tu noć zaprosi?... Koliko je moralno opravdano nagovaranje djece onkoloških pacijenata od strane njihovih očajnih roditelja da posljednje trenutke provode na videochatu sa roditeljima, kako bi ostalo što više materijala za kasniju projekciju, umjesto da jednostavno budu u njihovom zagrljaju? Takođe se postavlja i pitanje cjenovnika usluga i omogućavanja i ljudima koji nisu toliko imućni da takođe koriste njihove usluge... Javljaju se razni korisnici koji su koristili usluge iz različitih pobuda. Tako npr. jedan korisnik je prošao cijelu proceduru samo da bi otvorio prozor u kojem je bila njegova pokojna žena i priznao joj višekratnu i višestruku nevjeru, zatvorio pozor i rekao da obustave projekciju, pošto je doživio ogromno olakšanje... Bilo je ljudi koji su željeli komunicirati sa svojim uginulim kućnim ljubimcima... Bilo je ljudi koji su samo željeli komunicirati sa nekom poznatom osobom kao npr. sa Kurtom Cobainom... Bilo je ljudi koji su prolazili cijelu proceduru samo da bi pitali pokojnu ženu gdje se nalaze ključevi od šupe i kako se rukuje mašinom za veš ili mašinom za pranje suđa... Bilo je i takvih potencijalnih korisnika koji su željeli komunicirati sa projekcijom svojih bivših parnera koji uopšte nisu bili mrtvi... Bilo je bijesnih udovica koje su bile zapostavljane ili maltretirane od strane svojih preminulih bračnih partnera pa bi doživjele katarzu tako što bi se projekciji pokojnika nagovorile svega i svačega, što se nikada nisu usudile učiniti u stvarnom životu... Kao nekom ko uvijek o svemu razmišlja u stilu – „šta ako?“, ovaj roman mi je predstavljao idealan omjer dijaloga, misli, osjećanja, promatranja svega iz različite perspektive.
Imaćete pred sobom dirljiv i nezaboravan, intrigantan roman o jačini ljubavi, o prijateljstvu, o gubitku i bolu, o prijateljstvu i dobrim djelima, o svemu što je bitno u životu... Natjeraće vas da nakon svakog poglavlja ostavite knjigu i da malo razmislite o sadržaju kojeg ste upravo pročitali... Ovo je knjiga koja će možda tražiti od vas da je pročitate u jednom dahu, ali preporučujem da je ipak pomalo degustirate, da dozvolite da vas odvede na put dijaloga sa samim sobom u vlastitim mislima... Šta biste vi lično uradili kada biste se našli u datoj situaciji...
Ocjena🤔... Pet⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
i preporuka za čitanje.
December 13, 2012
3.5, to be totally honest, and more like a three. But I feel that a book like this needs to be viewed in two different ways - the what, and the how. The what here is awesome, the how not so much. I will therefore start with the what.
Many authors will tell you that their stories are often born about by a simple game of what if. What if a star pitcher broke his arm, what if the world began to freeze over, what if everyone died and one person remained? And now we have the big what if - what if after people died, we could still be in touch with them?
Or rather, not them exactly, but a computer generated them, complete with texting, emailing, and most haunting of all, video chat. In this book, Sam computer geek first creates an alogorithm to help online daters find their real match, rather than the ones they seek through their wistful but woefully inaccurate profiles. This proves successful in that it matches Sam with his intended, Meredith, but proves too successful in that Sam is then fired for having put the online dating service out of business.
Around this time, Meredith's beloved grandmother dies rather suddenly, and Meredith is distraught. On a bit of a whim, Sam suggests Meredith email her, and by loading a computer with all of the communications she shared with her grandmother, the new program generates a very grandmother sounding email back.
This soon moves on to video chat, and soon becomes a business larger than life - or at least, larger than death. People can now connect with the ones they have lost, and discover they do not need to say goodbye. With this fantasy, however, comes a lot of complications as far as the grieving and ultimately healing process, the ever present conundrum of man versus machine, and how we view life once we see it as somewhat eternal.
This reminded me of that Jose Saramago book where no one died (sounds good, doesn't it, but it's actually a really bad plan) and a little bit of Frankenstein and some others I am now blanking on. The bottom line is, it presented a really fascinating look at something we might all dream about (now I don't need to miss X anymore!) but in fact are blessed by not having (now I can never move on). It gets to the heart of loss and how we suffer in order to move forward but short sightedly want to skip the suffering and we simply cannot. And by exploring both the staggering strengths of machines as well as their fundamental limitations, we have both a frightening look at how easily we can be replaced as well as a reassuring sense that, no, not really.
Now the how.
Sorry, Frankel, but here's where we part ways. I kept thinking while reading this, Are you really allowed to write like this? By which I mean, you know how sometimes you read a book and you're like, I could never do that. Well this read more like a book that you could write if you never bothered editing or going for subtlety or trying to develop characters or make dialog at all believable. A study in craft this is not. The humor is often painfully obvious and contrived (ala Tropper but not as witty), the love of the main characters veers from not at all explored or believable to being beyond pukey and TMI. Those charming rom com perfect lines spoken moments? Maybe they're cute in a theatre, they're nice when they happen to you, but man they do NOT translate onto the page.
So, the thing is this. Easy read? Yes. Thought provoking and kind of fascinating? Absolutely. Believable? Not even slightly, and the very present narrator and its highly irritating and overdone snarky "humor" did not help. Well written? Not remotely. But I whipped through this one and, thought the 'twist' was incredibly predictable rather early on, I still felt compelled to see it through.
So, I recommend the what, but for the sake of my integrity, heed my caution as to the how.
Many authors will tell you that their stories are often born about by a simple game of what if. What if a star pitcher broke his arm, what if the world began to freeze over, what if everyone died and one person remained? And now we have the big what if - what if after people died, we could still be in touch with them?
Or rather, not them exactly, but a computer generated them, complete with texting, emailing, and most haunting of all, video chat. In this book, Sam computer geek first creates an alogorithm to help online daters find their real match, rather than the ones they seek through their wistful but woefully inaccurate profiles. This proves successful in that it matches Sam with his intended, Meredith, but proves too successful in that Sam is then fired for having put the online dating service out of business.
Around this time, Meredith's beloved grandmother dies rather suddenly, and Meredith is distraught. On a bit of a whim, Sam suggests Meredith email her, and by loading a computer with all of the communications she shared with her grandmother, the new program generates a very grandmother sounding email back.
This soon moves on to video chat, and soon becomes a business larger than life - or at least, larger than death. People can now connect with the ones they have lost, and discover they do not need to say goodbye. With this fantasy, however, comes a lot of complications as far as the grieving and ultimately healing process, the ever present conundrum of man versus machine, and how we view life once we see it as somewhat eternal.
This reminded me of that Jose Saramago book where no one died (sounds good, doesn't it, but it's actually a really bad plan) and a little bit of Frankenstein and some others I am now blanking on. The bottom line is, it presented a really fascinating look at something we might all dream about (now I don't need to miss X anymore!) but in fact are blessed by not having (now I can never move on). It gets to the heart of loss and how we suffer in order to move forward but short sightedly want to skip the suffering and we simply cannot. And by exploring both the staggering strengths of machines as well as their fundamental limitations, we have both a frightening look at how easily we can be replaced as well as a reassuring sense that, no, not really.
Now the how.
Sorry, Frankel, but here's where we part ways. I kept thinking while reading this, Are you really allowed to write like this? By which I mean, you know how sometimes you read a book and you're like, I could never do that. Well this read more like a book that you could write if you never bothered editing or going for subtlety or trying to develop characters or make dialog at all believable. A study in craft this is not. The humor is often painfully obvious and contrived (ala Tropper but not as witty), the love of the main characters veers from not at all explored or believable to being beyond pukey and TMI. Those charming rom com perfect lines spoken moments? Maybe they're cute in a theatre, they're nice when they happen to you, but man they do NOT translate onto the page.
So, the thing is this. Easy read? Yes. Thought provoking and kind of fascinating? Absolutely. Believable? Not even slightly, and the very present narrator and its highly irritating and overdone snarky "humor" did not help. Well written? Not remotely. But I whipped through this one and, thought the 'twist' was incredibly predictable rather early on, I still felt compelled to see it through.
So, I recommend the what, but for the sake of my integrity, heed my caution as to the how.
January 3, 2013
Just the right book at the right time for me. Beautiful story that will stay with me.
January 4, 2021
Este es otro ejemplo de que el título y la portada no coincide con el contenido. No suelo leer sinopsis, por lo que me hago mis propias especulaciones. Me ha gustado equivocarme. Lo considero un drama romántico, aunque tiene más peso la muerte que el amor.
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Es la historia de Meredith y Sam como pareja, sí, pero la trama tiene que ver con las relaciones con los seres queridos muertos a través de una plataforma virtual. Una proyección del muerto conseguida gracias a la vida online que tuvo.
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Las críticas sociales están patentes continuamente, por lo que se abre un gran debate entre el bien y el mal. ¿Hablarías con tu ser querido muerto a través de esta plataforma? ¿Te ayudaría con tu duelo o haría que lo pasaras peor?
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Yo he dudado mucho, pero sinceramente, en este caso, no apoyo las nuevas tecnologías. Sin embargo, me ha encantado y me ha parecido muy realista los grupos de apoyo que se crean gracias a esta empresa. El punto de vista psicológico de estos grupos me parece de mayor ayuda que la propia plataforma.
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Es la historia de Meredith y Sam como pareja, sí, pero la trama tiene que ver con las relaciones con los seres queridos muertos a través de una plataforma virtual. Una proyección del muerto conseguida gracias a la vida online que tuvo.
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Las críticas sociales están patentes continuamente, por lo que se abre un gran debate entre el bien y el mal. ¿Hablarías con tu ser querido muerto a través de esta plataforma? ¿Te ayudaría con tu duelo o haría que lo pasaras peor?
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Yo he dudado mucho, pero sinceramente, en este caso, no apoyo las nuevas tecnologías. Sin embargo, me ha encantado y me ha parecido muy realista los grupos de apoyo que se crean gracias a esta empresa. El punto de vista psicológico de estos grupos me parece de mayor ayuda que la propia plataforma.
August 21, 2012
This was an interesting novel and don't be fooled by the happy little cover, it will make you frown as much as it will make you smile. While I understand those pointing out someone living in their home wouldn't have the ability to create such technology as our little computer programmer invents for the woman he loves, it's okay because fiction is... well fiction. We can abandon all those laws reality chains us to in the name of a story. In any case, this book is more about love- what we do for it and how vulnerable we are when we brave it's waters. Naturally as RePose is available to those who have lost loved ones along comes all the pros and cons that bites the heels of new technology. It is handled with both humor and heart. I was surprised how much I liked this book. It moved a little slowly in some parts but I think it was a good read and it was touching.
Nearly everyone on earth can relate, because who isn't or won't be touched by death at some point? And love requires the risk of loss, always.
Nearly everyone on earth can relate, because who isn't or won't be touched by death at some point? And love requires the risk of loss, always.
November 22, 2016
I'm so annoyed by this book. A great idea: deals with AI where you get to talk with people you lost.
But the characters are soooo boring (even when they were trying to be funny), the dialog is unrealistic (who talks like that?), relationships between them are unbelievable. I just couldn't care less about them. 95% of the book is about them, about their feelings and boring conversations.
Too bad, because I really like the idea, but very meh execution.
But the characters are soooo boring (even when they were trying to be funny), the dialog is unrealistic (who talks like that?), relationships between them are unbelievable. I just couldn't care less about them. 95% of the book is about them, about their feelings and boring conversations.
Too bad, because I really like the idea, but very meh execution.
July 28, 2024
3.5 rounded up. Very interesting premise. Algorithm developed based on a persons social media presence and then put together so even after person has died, the survivors can interact though computer program with the deceased.
April 6, 2022
I enjoyed this years ago and it came to mind again after I finished 2 seasons of Upload and all of Black Mirror. Time for a reread.
May 12, 2012
Description:
Sam Elling gets fired from an internet dating company after designing a ground-breaking algorithm that actually calculates a person's soul-mate. The problem? The software works too well, and after one date, prospective customers find the “one” and cancel their membership. Fortunately, that is how Sam meets Meredith – the girl of his dreams. But the couple hit a rough patch when Meredith's grandmother, Livvie, dies.
Meredith is inconsolable, her grandmother being one of the most influential people in her life. She has countless memories, but cannot seem to accept Livvie's death; so she asks Sam to do the impossible - create an interactive simulation from Livvie's past emails and web-cam sessions so she can say goodbye. What begins as an unlikely project ends up becoming a life-changing business, as Sam, Meredith and their families start bringing the recently departed back to virtual “life”. Can their business and relationship handle the repercussions of meddling with the grief of those left behind?
Review:
I was more than intrigued when I read the back cover blurb, especially since there is already a confirmed film deal with Summit Entertainment. A modern love story like this one must be pretty good if it is on the way to the big screen; after reading it, I understand why. Goodbye For Now is emotionally-charged - full of life, love, loss and the pain of saying goodbye. Laurie Frankel captures the realities of family, falling in love, and coping with the uncertainty that surrounds us. Sam, Meredith, Livvie, Dash and Josh are characters with definite impact, on the plot and the reader. I can tell that the author is passionate about her characters - their relationships, triumphs and vulnerabilities are evident on every page. I could easily relate to, and sympathize with, each character, so as the book progressed, so did my emotional state. A great author makes you feel what the characters are going through, no matter how complex those feelings may seem. I did get some serious shocks while reading, but I am a fan of the unexpected, (no spoilers). There is enough detail to keep readers interested, but not enough to ruin the resulting story-line. Even though it was more technologically modern, there wasn't too much jargon; appreciated since RePose was based on such a heterogeneous computer algorithm. I enjoyed the whole book immensely! I will be looking for other books by this author in the future, and highly recommend Goodbye For Now to all readers teen and above. The countdown to the film has begun...
Rating: Clean Getaway (5/5)
*** I received this book from the author (Doubleday) in exchange for an honest and unbiased review.
Sam Elling gets fired from an internet dating company after designing a ground-breaking algorithm that actually calculates a person's soul-mate. The problem? The software works too well, and after one date, prospective customers find the “one” and cancel their membership. Fortunately, that is how Sam meets Meredith – the girl of his dreams. But the couple hit a rough patch when Meredith's grandmother, Livvie, dies.
Meredith is inconsolable, her grandmother being one of the most influential people in her life. She has countless memories, but cannot seem to accept Livvie's death; so she asks Sam to do the impossible - create an interactive simulation from Livvie's past emails and web-cam sessions so she can say goodbye. What begins as an unlikely project ends up becoming a life-changing business, as Sam, Meredith and their families start bringing the recently departed back to virtual “life”. Can their business and relationship handle the repercussions of meddling with the grief of those left behind?
Review:
I was more than intrigued when I read the back cover blurb, especially since there is already a confirmed film deal with Summit Entertainment. A modern love story like this one must be pretty good if it is on the way to the big screen; after reading it, I understand why. Goodbye For Now is emotionally-charged - full of life, love, loss and the pain of saying goodbye. Laurie Frankel captures the realities of family, falling in love, and coping with the uncertainty that surrounds us. Sam, Meredith, Livvie, Dash and Josh are characters with definite impact, on the plot and the reader. I can tell that the author is passionate about her characters - their relationships, triumphs and vulnerabilities are evident on every page. I could easily relate to, and sympathize with, each character, so as the book progressed, so did my emotional state. A great author makes you feel what the characters are going through, no matter how complex those feelings may seem. I did get some serious shocks while reading, but I am a fan of the unexpected, (no spoilers). There is enough detail to keep readers interested, but not enough to ruin the resulting story-line. Even though it was more technologically modern, there wasn't too much jargon; appreciated since RePose was based on such a heterogeneous computer algorithm. I enjoyed the whole book immensely! I will be looking for other books by this author in the future, and highly recommend Goodbye For Now to all readers teen and above. The countdown to the film has begun...
Rating: Clean Getaway (5/5)
*** I received this book from the author (Doubleday) in exchange for an honest and unbiased review.
February 8, 2013
Goodbye for now is well written and it certainly brings up a variety of questions regarding death. I appreciated the questions raised in the novel such as
How long should we try and hang onto our loved ones and how healthy really is it to keep revisiting a computer projection that can never change while we do?
Can technology used in this way really help with the grieving process and/or help people come to grips with unresolved issues?
Is social networking harmful in that it isolates – instead of getting together and making memories in face to face interactions we sit in front of our computers alone trying to reach out to other people.
For me the most disturbing question raised was - do we cut off all electronic communication with our loved ones once we are ill so that the only electronic image they will be left with is that of a happy, healthy loved one? I cannot imagine isolating myself as the ill person from those who might be able to offer support and as the loved one I’d feel both guilty and resentful that I was pushed away from trying to help someone who is ill. After all there is a very real and powerful bond formed when caring for someone who is ill.
However – while I can appreciate the book I always felt a little distant from the characters. I never really felt I got to know either Sam or Meredith as complex characters. Even the supporting living characters come across as a little too perfect, everyone seemed to be very nice human beings without much in the way of flaws. While it might be very nice to be friends with such good people it might also be a little boring.
I also felt that the story had begun to meander somewhat before the big surprise in the last half of the book nor did I ever really feel much tension in the book in spite of all the death and dying. After all we know that the Dead loved one would be appearing on a computer screen soon enough so there was really no way for the bereaved to really grow. SO I am going to give this book a pass. It is not my cup of tea but it could very well be yours.
How long should we try and hang onto our loved ones and how healthy really is it to keep revisiting a computer projection that can never change while we do?
Can technology used in this way really help with the grieving process and/or help people come to grips with unresolved issues?
Is social networking harmful in that it isolates – instead of getting together and making memories in face to face interactions we sit in front of our computers alone trying to reach out to other people.
For me the most disturbing question raised was - do we cut off all electronic communication with our loved ones once we are ill so that the only electronic image they will be left with is that of a happy, healthy loved one? I cannot imagine isolating myself as the ill person from those who might be able to offer support and as the loved one I’d feel both guilty and resentful that I was pushed away from trying to help someone who is ill. After all there is a very real and powerful bond formed when caring for someone who is ill.
However – while I can appreciate the book I always felt a little distant from the characters. I never really felt I got to know either Sam or Meredith as complex characters. Even the supporting living characters come across as a little too perfect, everyone seemed to be very nice human beings without much in the way of flaws. While it might be very nice to be friends with such good people it might also be a little boring.
I also felt that the story had begun to meander somewhat before the big surprise in the last half of the book nor did I ever really feel much tension in the book in spite of all the death and dying. After all we know that the Dead loved one would be appearing on a computer screen soon enough so there was really no way for the bereaved to really grow. SO I am going to give this book a pass. It is not my cup of tea but it could very well be yours.
June 11, 2012
This is my first free book!!! Was excited to have won it and anxious to read it. As it turns out, was not disappointed.
As a self-proclaimed computer geek, Sam works for an internet dating company and still cannot get a date. Deciding to tweak the program, he develops one that matches people with their soul mates. He finds his perfect mate, Meredith. In the meantime, it works so well, the company loses the repeat customers that keeps them in business and he is fired.
When his girlfriend's grandmother, Livvie, dies, he is motivated to create a simulation of her from her correspondence. The virtual Livvie helps Meredith with her grief. Thinking Sam could help others who lost loved ones, the couple along with her brother, launches a business.
This is a tale of love, loss and letting go. Laurie Frankel's writing style at first reminded me of dots and dashes the way the conversations took place. But it didn't take me long get absorbed into the story line. It is clever, touching and laugh out loud funny! I would recommend this one!
Thank you Goodreads!!
As a self-proclaimed computer geek, Sam works for an internet dating company and still cannot get a date. Deciding to tweak the program, he develops one that matches people with their soul mates. He finds his perfect mate, Meredith. In the meantime, it works so well, the company loses the repeat customers that keeps them in business and he is fired.
When his girlfriend's grandmother, Livvie, dies, he is motivated to create a simulation of her from her correspondence. The virtual Livvie helps Meredith with her grief. Thinking Sam could help others who lost loved ones, the couple along with her brother, launches a business.
This is a tale of love, loss and letting go. Laurie Frankel's writing style at first reminded me of dots and dashes the way the conversations took place. But it didn't take me long get absorbed into the story line. It is clever, touching and laugh out loud funny! I would recommend this one!
Thank you Goodreads!!
July 21, 2012
Saying goodbye is hard. So what if you didn't really have to. Sam is a computer programmer with a heart of gold. He develops a great program that helps you find your soul mate and it really works because Sam finds his in Meredith. After Meredith's beloved grandmother passes away Sam sees that Meredith isn't ready to let go so he develops another wonderful program that lets her share emails with her grandmother. This leads to another level and viola - they are in the business of talking with the dead. Enter Meredith's crazy cousin Dash who thinks making cheese is the answer to all of life's problems and everything seems to be coming up roses until the next disaster strikes.
Laurie Frankel will have you laughing and crying in the same breath. She has a wonderful way of blending technology with good old fashioned values and characters. The book takes you on a journey of love and loss - makes you wish these characters were your friends and family - you cannot ask more from a novel than that.
Laurie Frankel will have you laughing and crying in the same breath. She has a wonderful way of blending technology with good old fashioned values and characters. The book takes you on a journey of love and loss - makes you wish these characters were your friends and family - you cannot ask more from a novel than that.
December 13, 2012
Book Review & Giveaway: Goodbye for Now by Laurie Frankel had a book cover I couldn’t resist. It’s funny the things that draw you to a book cover, isn’t it. When I read the publisher’s description, I couldn’t figure out what link the story had to the cover but I was intrigued enough that I wanted to find out. I’m so glad I did! This is a story about love and loss, of relationships we hold dear, but with a unique twist that only social media and the internet could provide. It’s definitely going to appeal to women and I think it should also appeal to men. Thanks to the publisher and author, we’ve got two advance readers copies (ARCs) to give away to lucky readers! WooHoo! Read the rest of my review & enter to win at http://popcornreads.com/?p=4405.
June 12, 2018
~dnf at around 50%. I just couldn't get into it.
September 17, 2024
At first I loved this book and its characters. But it all very quickly became overplayed and tiresome.
August 7, 2025
This book made me think. A lot. AI is all around us and I’ve been grappling with the ethics of it all. And then this book pops into my Libby search, from an author I love, but a book I didn’t know about. And the subject is AI and love - but also death. And I’ve been thinking a lot about losing a loved one too. And it was written in 2012 - over ten years ago. The story is good, but the thinking you do while reading the book is excellent. I’ll be mulling this over for awhile.
July 12, 2025
Insane that this book was written 12 years ago and is much more true today than it was then. Felt like such a good warning on AI and social media and having a real life and a real community , while mixed with death and grief and life
May 5, 2019
At first I was worried that this would turn into that black mirror episode but it didn't. Poignantly beautiful and at times devastatingly sad, Goodbye For Now made me feel all the feels. I wonder how far away we are from this really? It doesn't feel like we are... solid 4.5
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