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Religion Saves: And Nine Other Misconceptions
After 343,203 online votes on the Mars Hill Church website, nine questions for Pastor Mark Driscoll emerged as the ones most urgently calling for answers.
Inspired by 1 Corinthians, in which Paul answers a series of questions posed by the people in the Corinthian church, Pastor Mark Driscoll set out to determine the most controversial questions among visitors to the Mars Hill Church website. In the end, 893 questions were asked and 343,203 votes were cast. The top nine questions are now each answered in a chapter of Religion Saves.
After an introductory chapter devoted to the misconception that religion is what saves us, Driscoll tackles nine issues: birth control, humor, predestination, grace, sexual sin, faith and works, dating, the emerging church, and the regulative principle.
Because the purpose of this book is to address commonly asked questions, all readers will find relevant, engaging material, written in Driscoll's distinctively edgy, yet theologically sound style.
Inspired by 1 Corinthians, in which Paul answers a series of questions posed by the people in the Corinthian church, Pastor Mark Driscoll set out to determine the most controversial questions among visitors to the Mars Hill Church website. In the end, 893 questions were asked and 343,203 votes were cast. The top nine questions are now each answered in a chapter of Religion Saves.
After an introductory chapter devoted to the misconception that religion is what saves us, Driscoll tackles nine issues: birth control, humor, predestination, grace, sexual sin, faith and works, dating, the emerging church, and the regulative principle.
Because the purpose of this book is to address commonly asked questions, all readers will find relevant, engaging material, written in Driscoll's distinctively edgy, yet theologically sound style.
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Mark A. Driscoll is the founder and teaching pastor of Mars Hill Church in Seattle, Washington, as well as the co-founder of the Acts 29 Church Planting Network where he also served as President for a short period. Driscoll continues to serve on the board of Acts 29. He has contributed to the "Faith and Values" section of the Seattle Times and the "On Faith" section of the Washington Post.
Mark A. Driscoll is the founder and teaching pastor of Mars Hill Church in Seattle, Washington, as well as the co-founder of the Acts 29 Church Planting Network where he also served as President for a short period. Driscoll continues to serve on the board of Acts 29. He has contributed to the "Faith and Values" section of the Seattle Times and the "On Faith" section of the Washington Post.
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January 26, 2022
2 1/2 Stars
This book has some good information and interesting things to ponder, however when I look at the nine questions I am confused. Driscoll says that these are the most asked questions, even if this is true that doesn't mean that they should all be put together in the same book.
Many of the topics would be more interesting to a new believer or young believer such as Grace, Faith and Works, Sexual Sin, and Dating. Other topics such as The emerging Church, Predestination, and The Regulative Principle, are more advanced and would only interest/make sense to older more mature believers. Then we have Birth Control which many would consider a hot button topic and Humor... which I believe was only included because a)Driscoll wants to show off how funny he is b) Driscoll thinks he is really funny but is tired of people being offended.
Mark Driscoll, you are sincerely unfunny. Please just stop.
Right off the bat Driscoll starts with the hot button issue. I liked hearing about the ancient history of birth control and all the weird things people used to shove up into themselves but I disagreed with a large point that he made and this set me up to be somewhat touchy for the remainder of the book.
With this topic Driscoll quotes scripture, admits that there is no straight forward biblical answer and then just gives his opinion as law. The big example of this is with whether or not it is okay for a married couple to choose to NOT have a child.
"Most certainly there are sinful people who use birth control for a variety of reasons, including greed (they want to make as much money as possible without the responsibilities or costs of childbearing); selfishness (they have no desire to undertake the work involved in lovingly raising a child); an unbiblical view of children as a burden instead of a blessing; and an irresponsible lifestyle (they refuse to grow up and assume adult responsibilities
Examples of when it is 'godly' to use birth control include: "working on a very troubled marriage...serious health troubles...cancer
Yet the author agrees, using Gen 1:28, that to turn a blessing into a command is legalism but within the same paragraph says that "Christian couples should desire and pursue children" .
Why? The connection is not made and that is a pretty huge statement to make.
He does something similar when discussing dating.
"Because the Bible repeatedly states that the husband is to be the loving and leading head of the family, any romantic relationship should begin with the man taking initiative to kindly and respectfully request an opportunity to get to know the woman better."
No. the verses you use to back yourself up are talking about wives and husbands not singles. These are just two instances but there are more. They stand out because many of his other points are so well supported and researched. You can't just say something and not back it up or use verses that have no connection to the point you are making.
Overall, the book is not a waste. I enjoyed the chapter on Predestination the best since I found it to be very thought provoking. However, I walked away from this book with a slight dislike for the author. He seemed somewhat arrogant at times and I do not appreciate unsupported claims and contradictions. I find that the amount of research is not consistent. Either you have a book that provides a scholarly researched examination of the Bible or you provide opinion essays, this in between state does not work for me.
My verdict is to skip this read and instead seek out books on the topics you are interested in.
This book has some good information and interesting things to ponder, however when I look at the nine questions I am confused. Driscoll says that these are the most asked questions, even if this is true that doesn't mean that they should all be put together in the same book.
Many of the topics would be more interesting to a new believer or young believer such as Grace, Faith and Works, Sexual Sin, and Dating. Other topics such as The emerging Church, Predestination, and The Regulative Principle, are more advanced and would only interest/make sense to older more mature believers. Then we have Birth Control which many would consider a hot button topic and Humor... which I believe was only included because a)Driscoll wants to show off how funny he is b) Driscoll thinks he is really funny but is tired of people being offended.
Mark Driscoll, you are sincerely unfunny. Please just stop.
Right off the bat Driscoll starts with the hot button issue. I liked hearing about the ancient history of birth control and all the weird things people used to shove up into themselves but I disagreed with a large point that he made and this set me up to be somewhat touchy for the remainder of the book.
With this topic Driscoll quotes scripture, admits that there is no straight forward biblical answer and then just gives his opinion as law. The big example of this is with whether or not it is okay for a married couple to choose to NOT have a child.
"Most certainly there are sinful people who use birth control for a variety of reasons, including greed (they want to make as much money as possible without the responsibilities or costs of childbearing); selfishness (they have no desire to undertake the work involved in lovingly raising a child); an unbiblical view of children as a burden instead of a blessing; and an irresponsible lifestyle (they refuse to grow up and assume adult responsibilities
Examples of when it is 'godly' to use birth control include: "working on a very troubled marriage...serious health troubles...cancer
Yet the author agrees, using Gen 1:28, that to turn a blessing into a command is legalism but within the same paragraph says that "Christian couples should desire and pursue children" .
Why? The connection is not made and that is a pretty huge statement to make.
He does something similar when discussing dating.
"Because the Bible repeatedly states that the husband is to be the loving and leading head of the family, any romantic relationship should begin with the man taking initiative to kindly and respectfully request an opportunity to get to know the woman better."
No. the verses you use to back yourself up are talking about wives and husbands not singles. These are just two instances but there are more. They stand out because many of his other points are so well supported and researched. You can't just say something and not back it up or use verses that have no connection to the point you are making.
Overall, the book is not a waste. I enjoyed the chapter on Predestination the best since I found it to be very thought provoking. However, I walked away from this book with a slight dislike for the author. He seemed somewhat arrogant at times and I do not appreciate unsupported claims and contradictions. I find that the amount of research is not consistent. Either you have a book that provides a scholarly researched examination of the Bible or you provide opinion essays, this in between state does not work for me.
My verdict is to skip this read and instead seek out books on the topics you are interested in.
August 1, 2021
Wow. I have so many thoughts on this. I am tempted to comment on how interesting this was to read in light of the current CT podcast on the collapse of Mars Hill Church, the rumours surrounding what's currently happening with Mark and The Trinity Church, and what has become of the emerging church a decade or so on. But I will refrain.
In terms of the book itself, this was excellent. Mark's commentary on a range of issues theological, societal, and ecclesiological were informed, bold, and insightful. Obviously, some of what he says is a little dated (this came out in 2009), but that speaks more to the way society has changed than to the quality of the book itself. The chapters on birth control, sexual sin, the emerging church, and faith + works were solid. Though I would push back on the chapter on the regulative principle, as well as some of the brief comments he made on infralapsarianism, this book has the strength of both being solid and accessible, and it is here that Mark brings something to the table that many do not.
In terms of the book itself, this was excellent. Mark's commentary on a range of issues theological, societal, and ecclesiological were informed, bold, and insightful. Obviously, some of what he says is a little dated (this came out in 2009), but that speaks more to the way society has changed than to the quality of the book itself. The chapters on birth control, sexual sin, the emerging church, and faith + works were solid. Though I would push back on the chapter on the regulative principle, as well as some of the brief comments he made on infralapsarianism, this book has the strength of both being solid and accessible, and it is here that Mark brings something to the table that many do not.
September 25, 2017
Manages to take on weighty issues in a way that is timelessly normed to Christian belief and engaging to contemporary questioners.
March 29, 2012
In general, my view of Mark Driscoll’s work is mixed at best. However, this book I found to actually be quite useful. It has a lot of what people like about Mark Driscoll (it’s hard-hitting, biblically conservative, relevant, and not afraid to question common Christian thought), and it had a lot less of what usually turns me and others of from Mark Driscoll (legalism, sloppy and forced exegesis, his elevation of his view of manliness as the highest of virtue).
The book is divided into 9 distinct chapters (it’s essentially 9 separate sermons), each of which deals with a particular topic. The nine topics were chosen based on questions sent in by Driscoll’s followers, chosen by their vote. Therefore, I will give a brief review of each chapter.
Chapter 9: Birth control.
Gives a good defense of the standard evangelical view regarding birth control: using birth control is generally acceptable, but abortion is not.
Admittedly, not a lot of scripture came up, but that’s usually the case in arguments for any position. The Bible doesn’t really mention birth control one way or another, although crude methods did exist and were common at the time. He does give some useful passages here and there, however. For example, he points to numerous passages in Song of Solomon that speak positively of sexual contact other than full, child-producing intercourse. He also points to passages like 1 Corinthians 7:5, which, in a nutshell, teaches that married people should be having sex often, with no qualification given for infertile couples.
He also looks at important issues that revolve around birth control, such as the heart behind. Selfishness is never godly, so the reasons why a couple might use birth control matters. Stuff like that makes this a very useful chapter as well.
Interesting factoids also enrich this chapter. I had no idea until reading this, for example, that the birth control pill might (emphasis on might) possibly not only prevent conception, but may cause an abortion of a fertilized egg. For this reason, he recommends caution and prayer when considering the use of the pill.
He, like many evangelical Christians (including myself) believe that life begins at conception, and that abortion is wrong (accept perhaps in the most extraordinary of circumstances, such as when the mother’s life is at stake).
Chapter 8: Humor
Driscoll addresses the claim that his use of humor and sarcasm in preaching are inappropriate, and attempts to look at what the Bible says.
This section, I had mixed feelings about. I think the overall point that God Himself doesn’t have the Victorian-era standards of propriety and what is “inappropriate.” As he points out, while the Bible does say to avoid crude joking and the like, something isn’t crude or prohibited by such verses as Ephesians 4:29 and 5:4 just because people don’t like it.
He points to examples of Jesus using sarcasm and even insults, though always for the purpose of convincing those whose positions He belittles to repent. Other Bible authors also use strong and even “salty” language. Paul, who is among the most emphatic about crude joking and the like (you’d never catch him saying “that’s what she said!” unless he was recounting to someone what a woman actually said), says things that many today would call “inappropriate.” He calls his prior religiosity the reek equivalent of the S word in Philippians 3:9 (often translated as “rubbish” or the like). He, surely hyperbolically, says that the judaizers who insist that you must be circumcised to be saved, who were leading the Galatians astray, should go castrate themselves (Galatians 5:12). Examples that he doesn’t point to serve the point quite well. If you’ve never read what God Himself says in Ezekiel 23:20, do so and see if I’m wrong.
However, I think some of Driscoll’s own commentary can distract form his good points. For starters, just because things like sarcasm and the like are used doesn’t make the text funny. Don’t get me wrong, laughter is good. But I’m not sure a lot the types of examples were meant to actually be humerous. And at times, the only thing that would seem funny is his own modern envisioning of it (and even then, as I could hear him laughing at his own joke, I didn’t laugh). He points to Amos 6:4-6, where Amos attacks the rich by pointing to their extravagant lifestyle in contrast to their lack of concern (and even outright oppression) of the poor. He then talks about how the modern equivalent would be Amos talking about the lifestyle of those on MTV’s Cribs, and how funny that would be. I just don’t really find it funny. It’s not a big deal by any means, but when so much of his point is about how the Bible is supposed to have many funny moments, the fact that these things aren’t funny distracts from the actual good points that I mentioned above.
Overall, the meat of this chapter it I good, but it gets muddied up a bit.
Chapter 7: Predestination
A very touchy topic, but I think he handles it well without stepping on the toes of any reasonable person.
I was not a Calvinist prior to reading this (though I do tend to kind of lean that way), and I still am not. But it framed the case for it well, didn’t make any outrageous caricatures of those who disagree, and gave us a lot of good things to think about.
It was short, and so many of the biblical arguments against Calvinism weren’t really touched upon. Also, a few of his passages arguments were circular. Even a Calvinist knows that just because a passage mentions the “elect,” it does not necessarily prove predestination unless you establish that predestination is true and therefore the “elect” are those who are predestined to be saved.
Not a bad section, though it won’t change many people’s minds.
Chapter 6: Grace
Not a bad section.
It is spoken from the Calvinist perspective, but it is always good to remember God’s grace. He does then break down the different kinds of grace, saying that there are 13 kinds of grace that the believer experiences (aside from the “common grace” that God shows to everyone).
Nothing bad. For some, it might be of more use than others.
Question 5: Sexual Sin
I thought, for the most part, this section was really good. It managed to strike the difficult balance between taking sexual sin seriously and being legalistic.
It is very frank and open, so if that makes you uncomfortable, you shouldn’t read it. You also shouldn’t read the Bible in that case, since it also talks about sex a lot.
Just about every important aspect of sexual sin comes into play (culture, the heart, sin, repentance, the saving power of Christ). He gives some generally quite useful advice as well. He emphasizes the evil and sheer destruction of sexual sin. He also emphasizes that sex itself, when in the confines of marriage, is a very good thing, not sinful or dirty the way that too many theologians have made it out to be (despite what the Bible actually says).
I think the last few pages, which are about masturbation, are kind of a weak point in comparison to the rest. He does at least point out that the Bible never forbids it and it is not itself sinful, though, quite accurately, he makes the point that it can lead to danger. I just wish he hadn’t ended it with his 5 practical reasons why it should be avoided. He goes as far as suggesting that it might be a type of homosexuality, since you are the same gender as yourself. Perhaps he was trying to be funny?
Still, the section on the whole is definitely worth reading.
Question 4: Faith and Works
Content is good, but it takes until the end for him to address the actual question asked.
The question asked was this: “If salvation is by faith alone, then why are there so many verses that say or imply the opposite-the salvation is by works?”
In this section, he talks at length about regeneration, how Christ justifies us and the Holy Spirit reforms us and gives us new hearts etc. Only at the end does he even address the question, explaining how it is because we are saved that we do the good works in passages like James 2:24-26, and not the other way around. Theologically I think that his answer is fine, but it probably would have served to explain how what he was going to argue would address the question asked.
Question 3: Dating.
I expected Driscoll to lose me here, but while he is a bit old-fashioned and very much into “courtship” under the perview of the parents (if they are Christians), he was balanced and not particularly legalistic.
I did take some issue with the things that he said. The way he interprets 1 Corinthians 7 and how Paul speaks so highly of singleness, I really felt, kind of tried to get around it. He is right to point to contextual factors, such as how it was written to them in a time of turmoil, but a lot of his points about how singleness is great aren’t unique to the Corinthians in that time. Jesus Himself says to His disciples that some do stay single for the purpose of the kingdom of God, and that those who can accept it should (Matthew 19:12).
While Driscoll does point to extreme examples where it is good to stay single (like a missionary in a closed Muslim country whose life is in constant danger), I don’t think he gives enough credit to the idea of some Christians staying single. It is good that he rebuts the unbiblical idea that marriage is bad (put forth, unfortunately, by many influent Christians throughout history), but he swings too far in the other direction. He takes for granted that marriage is not simply a right of all believers, but something that generally is to be expected of them.
There are many good parts of this chapter, however. I especially thought that his 7 dating questions for men and for women were quite good. I am especially glad that one of them was, put somewhat brusquely, “is she a b*tch/is he an a**hole?” On TV and in real life, we see way too many people who get married to terrible people who treat them badly. Asking yourself how they treat you while you are dating and if you want to be treated that way (or, probably worse) for the rest of your life is something anyone should be able to recognize as sure wisdom.
Question 2: The Emerging Church
This chapter is largely focused on the Emergent Church, as other forms of “emerging” church movements don’t differ theologically from traditional Christianity.
He looks at a number of Emergent Church leaders, including the now infamous Rob Bell, and the less than savory beliefs they espouse.
I thought at times he really drove the point home well (as was the case with Brian McLaren), and at other times, left me wondering if they were saying what Driscoll was saying that they were saying.
Question 1: The Regulative Principle
I, like most readers, had no idea what this was until I read this chapter.
Basically, it’s just another name for the idea, furthered by the puritans (and also by a lot of “Church of Christ churches today) that what we do in church must be commanded in scripture, or else it is sin. It’s the reason why many Church of Christ churches, for example, don’t use musical instruments. They aren’t commanded in the Bible for worship, so they are sinful. Well, I mean, they are commanded on many occasions, but it’s in the Old Testament, so it doesn’t count…
Anyway, he concisely points out the numerous logical issues with taking to worship in this way, and I think he does a god job of it.
I was a little unsure of what to think of the beginning, when he talked about what worship is and what it isn’t. He shows a little bit of his Mark Driscollesque legalism when he says that in corporate worship, you shouldn’t sing songs about what you will do for God because they are not God-centered (a principle of what worship is supposed to be, he says). In other words, it is bad not because it violates the rule of an actual passage, but because it violates a principle that he pulls from the scripture (even though I’m not sure how it even does that). And in worship, the sermon will be all about what God does and what God is doing, he says. So, are sermons based on God’s word that attempt to persuade people to take Godly action not allowed? It could be that he just means that those aren’t actual “worship,” not that they are wrong in church services, but he speaks rather negatively of them, so I don’t know.
The main point though, about how the regulative principle is abused and cannot be taken to its logical conclusions or fully followed, stands.
CONCLUSION:
I thought that this book addressed some important issues and, in general, gave some very good analysis. While the title is misleading almost to the point of not even making sense (as many have pointed out already), it still is a very useful resource.
The book is divided into 9 distinct chapters (it’s essentially 9 separate sermons), each of which deals with a particular topic. The nine topics were chosen based on questions sent in by Driscoll’s followers, chosen by their vote. Therefore, I will give a brief review of each chapter.
Chapter 9: Birth control.
Gives a good defense of the standard evangelical view regarding birth control: using birth control is generally acceptable, but abortion is not.
Admittedly, not a lot of scripture came up, but that’s usually the case in arguments for any position. The Bible doesn’t really mention birth control one way or another, although crude methods did exist and were common at the time. He does give some useful passages here and there, however. For example, he points to numerous passages in Song of Solomon that speak positively of sexual contact other than full, child-producing intercourse. He also points to passages like 1 Corinthians 7:5, which, in a nutshell, teaches that married people should be having sex often, with no qualification given for infertile couples.
He also looks at important issues that revolve around birth control, such as the heart behind. Selfishness is never godly, so the reasons why a couple might use birth control matters. Stuff like that makes this a very useful chapter as well.
Interesting factoids also enrich this chapter. I had no idea until reading this, for example, that the birth control pill might (emphasis on might) possibly not only prevent conception, but may cause an abortion of a fertilized egg. For this reason, he recommends caution and prayer when considering the use of the pill.
He, like many evangelical Christians (including myself) believe that life begins at conception, and that abortion is wrong (accept perhaps in the most extraordinary of circumstances, such as when the mother’s life is at stake).
Chapter 8: Humor
Driscoll addresses the claim that his use of humor and sarcasm in preaching are inappropriate, and attempts to look at what the Bible says.
This section, I had mixed feelings about. I think the overall point that God Himself doesn’t have the Victorian-era standards of propriety and what is “inappropriate.” As he points out, while the Bible does say to avoid crude joking and the like, something isn’t crude or prohibited by such verses as Ephesians 4:29 and 5:4 just because people don’t like it.
He points to examples of Jesus using sarcasm and even insults, though always for the purpose of convincing those whose positions He belittles to repent. Other Bible authors also use strong and even “salty” language. Paul, who is among the most emphatic about crude joking and the like (you’d never catch him saying “that’s what she said!” unless he was recounting to someone what a woman actually said), says things that many today would call “inappropriate.” He calls his prior religiosity the reek equivalent of the S word in Philippians 3:9 (often translated as “rubbish” or the like). He, surely hyperbolically, says that the judaizers who insist that you must be circumcised to be saved, who were leading the Galatians astray, should go castrate themselves (Galatians 5:12). Examples that he doesn’t point to serve the point quite well. If you’ve never read what God Himself says in Ezekiel 23:20, do so and see if I’m wrong.
However, I think some of Driscoll’s own commentary can distract form his good points. For starters, just because things like sarcasm and the like are used doesn’t make the text funny. Don’t get me wrong, laughter is good. But I’m not sure a lot the types of examples were meant to actually be humerous. And at times, the only thing that would seem funny is his own modern envisioning of it (and even then, as I could hear him laughing at his own joke, I didn’t laugh). He points to Amos 6:4-6, where Amos attacks the rich by pointing to their extravagant lifestyle in contrast to their lack of concern (and even outright oppression) of the poor. He then talks about how the modern equivalent would be Amos talking about the lifestyle of those on MTV’s Cribs, and how funny that would be. I just don’t really find it funny. It’s not a big deal by any means, but when so much of his point is about how the Bible is supposed to have many funny moments, the fact that these things aren’t funny distracts from the actual good points that I mentioned above.
Overall, the meat of this chapter it I good, but it gets muddied up a bit.
Chapter 7: Predestination
A very touchy topic, but I think he handles it well without stepping on the toes of any reasonable person.
I was not a Calvinist prior to reading this (though I do tend to kind of lean that way), and I still am not. But it framed the case for it well, didn’t make any outrageous caricatures of those who disagree, and gave us a lot of good things to think about.
It was short, and so many of the biblical arguments against Calvinism weren’t really touched upon. Also, a few of his passages arguments were circular. Even a Calvinist knows that just because a passage mentions the “elect,” it does not necessarily prove predestination unless you establish that predestination is true and therefore the “elect” are those who are predestined to be saved.
Not a bad section, though it won’t change many people’s minds.
Chapter 6: Grace
Not a bad section.
It is spoken from the Calvinist perspective, but it is always good to remember God’s grace. He does then break down the different kinds of grace, saying that there are 13 kinds of grace that the believer experiences (aside from the “common grace” that God shows to everyone).
Nothing bad. For some, it might be of more use than others.
Question 5: Sexual Sin
I thought, for the most part, this section was really good. It managed to strike the difficult balance between taking sexual sin seriously and being legalistic.
It is very frank and open, so if that makes you uncomfortable, you shouldn’t read it. You also shouldn’t read the Bible in that case, since it also talks about sex a lot.
Just about every important aspect of sexual sin comes into play (culture, the heart, sin, repentance, the saving power of Christ). He gives some generally quite useful advice as well. He emphasizes the evil and sheer destruction of sexual sin. He also emphasizes that sex itself, when in the confines of marriage, is a very good thing, not sinful or dirty the way that too many theologians have made it out to be (despite what the Bible actually says).
I think the last few pages, which are about masturbation, are kind of a weak point in comparison to the rest. He does at least point out that the Bible never forbids it and it is not itself sinful, though, quite accurately, he makes the point that it can lead to danger. I just wish he hadn’t ended it with his 5 practical reasons why it should be avoided. He goes as far as suggesting that it might be a type of homosexuality, since you are the same gender as yourself. Perhaps he was trying to be funny?
Still, the section on the whole is definitely worth reading.
Question 4: Faith and Works
Content is good, but it takes until the end for him to address the actual question asked.
The question asked was this: “If salvation is by faith alone, then why are there so many verses that say or imply the opposite-the salvation is by works?”
In this section, he talks at length about regeneration, how Christ justifies us and the Holy Spirit reforms us and gives us new hearts etc. Only at the end does he even address the question, explaining how it is because we are saved that we do the good works in passages like James 2:24-26, and not the other way around. Theologically I think that his answer is fine, but it probably would have served to explain how what he was going to argue would address the question asked.
Question 3: Dating.
I expected Driscoll to lose me here, but while he is a bit old-fashioned and very much into “courtship” under the perview of the parents (if they are Christians), he was balanced and not particularly legalistic.
I did take some issue with the things that he said. The way he interprets 1 Corinthians 7 and how Paul speaks so highly of singleness, I really felt, kind of tried to get around it. He is right to point to contextual factors, such as how it was written to them in a time of turmoil, but a lot of his points about how singleness is great aren’t unique to the Corinthians in that time. Jesus Himself says to His disciples that some do stay single for the purpose of the kingdom of God, and that those who can accept it should (Matthew 19:12).
While Driscoll does point to extreme examples where it is good to stay single (like a missionary in a closed Muslim country whose life is in constant danger), I don’t think he gives enough credit to the idea of some Christians staying single. It is good that he rebuts the unbiblical idea that marriage is bad (put forth, unfortunately, by many influent Christians throughout history), but he swings too far in the other direction. He takes for granted that marriage is not simply a right of all believers, but something that generally is to be expected of them.
There are many good parts of this chapter, however. I especially thought that his 7 dating questions for men and for women were quite good. I am especially glad that one of them was, put somewhat brusquely, “is she a b*tch/is he an a**hole?” On TV and in real life, we see way too many people who get married to terrible people who treat them badly. Asking yourself how they treat you while you are dating and if you want to be treated that way (or, probably worse) for the rest of your life is something anyone should be able to recognize as sure wisdom.
Question 2: The Emerging Church
This chapter is largely focused on the Emergent Church, as other forms of “emerging” church movements don’t differ theologically from traditional Christianity.
He looks at a number of Emergent Church leaders, including the now infamous Rob Bell, and the less than savory beliefs they espouse.
I thought at times he really drove the point home well (as was the case with Brian McLaren), and at other times, left me wondering if they were saying what Driscoll was saying that they were saying.
Question 1: The Regulative Principle
I, like most readers, had no idea what this was until I read this chapter.
Basically, it’s just another name for the idea, furthered by the puritans (and also by a lot of “Church of Christ churches today) that what we do in church must be commanded in scripture, or else it is sin. It’s the reason why many Church of Christ churches, for example, don’t use musical instruments. They aren’t commanded in the Bible for worship, so they are sinful. Well, I mean, they are commanded on many occasions, but it’s in the Old Testament, so it doesn’t count…
Anyway, he concisely points out the numerous logical issues with taking to worship in this way, and I think he does a god job of it.
I was a little unsure of what to think of the beginning, when he talked about what worship is and what it isn’t. He shows a little bit of his Mark Driscollesque legalism when he says that in corporate worship, you shouldn’t sing songs about what you will do for God because they are not God-centered (a principle of what worship is supposed to be, he says). In other words, it is bad not because it violates the rule of an actual passage, but because it violates a principle that he pulls from the scripture (even though I’m not sure how it even does that). And in worship, the sermon will be all about what God does and what God is doing, he says. So, are sermons based on God’s word that attempt to persuade people to take Godly action not allowed? It could be that he just means that those aren’t actual “worship,” not that they are wrong in church services, but he speaks rather negatively of them, so I don’t know.
The main point though, about how the regulative principle is abused and cannot be taken to its logical conclusions or fully followed, stands.
CONCLUSION:
I thought that this book addressed some important issues and, in general, gave some very good analysis. While the title is misleading almost to the point of not even making sense (as many have pointed out already), it still is a very useful resource.
February 20, 2022
I really enjoyed this. Every chapter was relevant and beneficial but my favourites were definitely the predestination and faith + works. The dating chapter was the best i’ve read on the matter while also concise. The chapter on birth control addressed things I hadn’t yet thought of but should probably have an opinion on considering the society in which I live oh and the final chapter on worship was also a treat.
“Converting grace lays an ax to the root of religious pride. Religious pride causes us to boast in who we are, what we do, and how we have chosen God, and it is insidious to God and others. On the contrary, the scriptures declare that even the faith to believe in Jesus is a gift and all of our salvation is all of grace, which means rather than boasting that we chose Jesus, we can boast in the grace of Jesus that chose to grant us the gift of faith and repentance.”
Feeling a renewed gratitude for my salvation and the grace given to me in regenerating my lifeless heart.
While reading this I was also listening to the rise and fall of mars hill podcast which was a bit of a roller coaster and if i’m honest i’m not entirely sure what to think of it all. One thing I cannot deny, man knows how to write.
Thank you Philip. Can’t wait to get vintage church for my birthday lolz.
“Converting grace lays an ax to the root of religious pride. Religious pride causes us to boast in who we are, what we do, and how we have chosen God, and it is insidious to God and others. On the contrary, the scriptures declare that even the faith to believe in Jesus is a gift and all of our salvation is all of grace, which means rather than boasting that we chose Jesus, we can boast in the grace of Jesus that chose to grant us the gift of faith and repentance.”
Feeling a renewed gratitude for my salvation and the grace given to me in regenerating my lifeless heart.
While reading this I was also listening to the rise and fall of mars hill podcast which was a bit of a roller coaster and if i’m honest i’m not entirely sure what to think of it all. One thing I cannot deny, man knows how to write.
Thank you Philip. Can’t wait to get vintage church for my birthday lolz.
December 16, 2017
I seriously question Driscoll's theological capabilities after his first response, opposing the regulative principle, was full of so many misconceived statements. I couldn't finish this.
His response to people thinking about the regulative principle was essentially "you're either an obscure presbyterian group or perhaps a seminary student who is spending too much time in books by old dead people and needs to get a life...." And then quotes from NT Wright and John Frame to support his view -_-
His response to people thinking about the regulative principle was essentially "you're either an obscure presbyterian group or perhaps a seminary student who is spending too much time in books by old dead people and needs to get a life...." And then quotes from NT Wright and John Frame to support his view -_-
November 6, 2010
Three years ago, Mark Driscoll — the pastor of Seattle's Mars Hill Church — asked church members and Internet voters to submit questions they would like to have answered. He was inspired to do this while preaching through 1 Corinthians, a letter in which Paul is answering questions asked by Christians in the city of Corinth. After nearly 900 questions were submitted and over 300,000 votes cast, Driscoll was able to sort the questions into broader categories, and narrow these categories down to the nine most requested.
Driscoll's answers to these questions first became a sermon series (which you can watch or listen to online here ), and then were fleshed out more fully in this book. I watched this sermon series about a year ago and thought it was quite good; Driscoll gave thorough and thoughtful answers to some very difficult questions, delivered in his characteristically engaging style. I expected to just skim the book, figuring it would basically be a transcription of the sermons. Was I ever wrong! I was not prepared for the depth of the book, which included far more material, and was, to me at least, even better than the sermons.
The nine categories/questions are:
Birth Control — “There’s no doubt the Bible says children are a blessing, but the Bible doesn’t seem to address the specific topic of birth control. Is this a black and white topic, or does it fall under liberties?”
Humor — “Why do you make jokes about Mormon missionaries, homosexuals, trenchcoat wearers, single men, vegans, emo kids and then expect these groups to come to know God in the same sermon?”
Predestination— “Why does an all loving, all knowing, and all sovereign God will into creation people He foreknows will suffer eternal condemnation? Why does Romans 9:20 feel like a cop-out answer?”
Grace — “Of all the things you teach, what parts of Christianity do you still wrestle with? What’s hardest for you to believe?”
Sexual Sin — “How should Christian men and women go about breaking free from the bondage of sexual sin?”
Faith & Works — “If salvation is by faith alone (Romans 3:28), then why are there so many verses that say or imply the opposite, namely that salvation is by works (James 2:24, Matthew 6:15 & 7:21, Galatians 5:19-21)?”
Dating — “How does a Christian date righteously; and what are the physical, emotional, and mentally connecting boundaries a Christian must set while developing an intimate relationship prior to marriage?”
Emerging Church — "What can traditional/established churches learn from 'emerging' churches?"
Regulative Principle — “Do you believe that the Scripture not only regulates our theology but also our methodology? In other words, do you believe in the regulative principle? If so, to what degree? If not, why not?”
While in a book like this different chapters will appeal to varying degrees to each reader, there is definitely something here for everyone. In fact, there is probably much more here for readers than they might initially expect. For instance, as a married man, I did not expect to find much of particular interest or value to me in the chapter on "Dating", but found myself drawn very much into it. Driscoll has a way of making each topic seem relevant and important to each reader.
There really are no "weak" chapters in this book, though they vary widely in style and substance. I particularly enjoyed his examination of the Emerging Church; a difficult and often divisive topic (due to the variety of theologies and methodologies employed by emerging churches) of which Driscoll has a rather unique perspective, given his former involvement with the Leadership Network and the early days of the Emergent Village .
For many, the term "Regulative Principle" is likely unfamiliar. However, a church's position with regard to this principle (whether using that term or not) has major implications on the life of the church and the style and form of worship there. Driscoll's treatment of the subject is the best I've read, and avoids the extremes of this debate in favor of what I believe to be a more biblical "middle ground".
If you have even so much as a passing interest in any of the topics addressed in this book, I heartily recommend it. I can pretty much guarantee that you'll learn something new, and probably have a good time in the process.
Driscoll's answers to these questions first became a sermon series (which you can watch or listen to online here ), and then were fleshed out more fully in this book. I watched this sermon series about a year ago and thought it was quite good; Driscoll gave thorough and thoughtful answers to some very difficult questions, delivered in his characteristically engaging style. I expected to just skim the book, figuring it would basically be a transcription of the sermons. Was I ever wrong! I was not prepared for the depth of the book, which included far more material, and was, to me at least, even better than the sermons.
The nine categories/questions are:
Birth Control — “There’s no doubt the Bible says children are a blessing, but the Bible doesn’t seem to address the specific topic of birth control. Is this a black and white topic, or does it fall under liberties?”
Humor — “Why do you make jokes about Mormon missionaries, homosexuals, trenchcoat wearers, single men, vegans, emo kids and then expect these groups to come to know God in the same sermon?”
Predestination— “Why does an all loving, all knowing, and all sovereign God will into creation people He foreknows will suffer eternal condemnation? Why does Romans 9:20 feel like a cop-out answer?”
Grace — “Of all the things you teach, what parts of Christianity do you still wrestle with? What’s hardest for you to believe?”
Sexual Sin — “How should Christian men and women go about breaking free from the bondage of sexual sin?”
Faith & Works — “If salvation is by faith alone (Romans 3:28), then why are there so many verses that say or imply the opposite, namely that salvation is by works (James 2:24, Matthew 6:15 & 7:21, Galatians 5:19-21)?”
Dating — “How does a Christian date righteously; and what are the physical, emotional, and mentally connecting boundaries a Christian must set while developing an intimate relationship prior to marriage?”
Emerging Church — "What can traditional/established churches learn from 'emerging' churches?"
Regulative Principle — “Do you believe that the Scripture not only regulates our theology but also our methodology? In other words, do you believe in the regulative principle? If so, to what degree? If not, why not?”
While in a book like this different chapters will appeal to varying degrees to each reader, there is definitely something here for everyone. In fact, there is probably much more here for readers than they might initially expect. For instance, as a married man, I did not expect to find much of particular interest or value to me in the chapter on "Dating", but found myself drawn very much into it. Driscoll has a way of making each topic seem relevant and important to each reader.
There really are no "weak" chapters in this book, though they vary widely in style and substance. I particularly enjoyed his examination of the Emerging Church; a difficult and often divisive topic (due to the variety of theologies and methodologies employed by emerging churches) of which Driscoll has a rather unique perspective, given his former involvement with the Leadership Network and the early days of the Emergent Village .
For many, the term "Regulative Principle" is likely unfamiliar. However, a church's position with regard to this principle (whether using that term or not) has major implications on the life of the church and the style and form of worship there. Driscoll's treatment of the subject is the best I've read, and avoids the extremes of this debate in favor of what I believe to be a more biblical "middle ground".
If you have even so much as a passing interest in any of the topics addressed in this book, I heartily recommend it. I can pretty much guarantee that you'll learn something new, and probably have a good time in the process.
March 15, 2025
I thought some chapters were good, but others were not as well presented. Interesting and worth a look through the chapters to see what might interest you to read about.
August 20, 2014
"Religion Saves: And Nine Other Misconceptions" was originally based on 9 sermons that Pastor Mark Driscoll preached to his congregation at Mars Hill Church. The congregation voted on the issues that Driscoll would preach on so the questions were supposedly what was on the mind of the participants of the church.
Being that this is the case, the book is mostly incoherent and certainly lacks any kind of overarching theme. Even the theme of "religion saves" which Driscoll would take to mean as good works helping an individual attain salvation is not even a common theme. The nine issues that Driscoll tackles include: birth control, humor (what is a Christian sense of humor), predestination, grace, sexual sin, faith and works, dating, the emerging church, and the regulative principle. As one can see, a lot of these topics revolve around guy/girl relationship issues with an ultra bizarre, number one voted on, regulative principle discussion (who cares?).
That being said, there are some interesting points in the book. Predestination my seem like a tired Christian topic but Driscoll gives a decent overview of the issue which may whet a reader's appetite for a more thorough discussion. Driscoll's strength is probably discussing the issue of faith and works and he argues strongly for a salvific perspective of faith in Christ alone, not by works. The most interesting chapter to me was his discussion of the emerging church since this is a relatively new phenomena. Driscoll used to be a part of this movement but broke off because of the compromises on major doctrinal issues of some of the founders. He breaks down the movement and expresses some of its problems related to Scripture.
The humor chapter of the book is disappointing and amounts to Driscoll defending his comments and jokes related to him being viewed widely as a punk. He attempts to justify these jokes by saying that Christians should be funny and therefore are OK to make fun of people including homosexuals and Mormons. The chatper on the regulative principle seems pointless and is boring.
If people are a fan of Driscoll, they will probably mildly like this book. It is by no means his best.
Being that this is the case, the book is mostly incoherent and certainly lacks any kind of overarching theme. Even the theme of "religion saves" which Driscoll would take to mean as good works helping an individual attain salvation is not even a common theme. The nine issues that Driscoll tackles include: birth control, humor (what is a Christian sense of humor), predestination, grace, sexual sin, faith and works, dating, the emerging church, and the regulative principle. As one can see, a lot of these topics revolve around guy/girl relationship issues with an ultra bizarre, number one voted on, regulative principle discussion (who cares?).
That being said, there are some interesting points in the book. Predestination my seem like a tired Christian topic but Driscoll gives a decent overview of the issue which may whet a reader's appetite for a more thorough discussion. Driscoll's strength is probably discussing the issue of faith and works and he argues strongly for a salvific perspective of faith in Christ alone, not by works. The most interesting chapter to me was his discussion of the emerging church since this is a relatively new phenomena. Driscoll used to be a part of this movement but broke off because of the compromises on major doctrinal issues of some of the founders. He breaks down the movement and expresses some of its problems related to Scripture.
The humor chapter of the book is disappointing and amounts to Driscoll defending his comments and jokes related to him being viewed widely as a punk. He attempts to justify these jokes by saying that Christians should be funny and therefore are OK to make fun of people including homosexuals and Mormons. The chatper on the regulative principle seems pointless and is boring.
If people are a fan of Driscoll, they will probably mildly like this book. It is by no means his best.
January 11, 2010
You either like Mark Driscoll or you don't. It's as simple as that. I like him.
Of course, Mark has mellowed with age & maturity - he's still willing to make all kinds of jokes & asides that you normally wouldn't hear coming from a typical pastor, but the comments & opinions are tempered with humility & grace. (Mark has an esp. nice chapter in RELIGION SAVES on his use of humor that helps clear up a lot of things.) At the same time, he is profoundly Biblical in his theology & teaching.
The only complaint I have about this book is that it doesn't seem to hang together very well. It's really 9 very good essays on a variety of tough questions which vary in nature from theological to relational & back again. Don't let that stop you from reading it, though. It's well worth your time & effort.
In my opinion, Mark is at his strongest when commenting on contemporary culture from a Biblical perspective - which means the chapters on sexual/relational issues are very good. He also does an incredibly gracious yet pointed job of trying to explain the whole "emerging/Emergent/missional" church mess.
Of course, Mark has mellowed with age & maturity - he's still willing to make all kinds of jokes & asides that you normally wouldn't hear coming from a typical pastor, but the comments & opinions are tempered with humility & grace. (Mark has an esp. nice chapter in RELIGION SAVES on his use of humor that helps clear up a lot of things.) At the same time, he is profoundly Biblical in his theology & teaching.
The only complaint I have about this book is that it doesn't seem to hang together very well. It's really 9 very good essays on a variety of tough questions which vary in nature from theological to relational & back again. Don't let that stop you from reading it, though. It's well worth your time & effort.
In my opinion, Mark is at his strongest when commenting on contemporary culture from a Biblical perspective - which means the chapters on sexual/relational issues are very good. He also does an incredibly gracious yet pointed job of trying to explain the whole "emerging/Emergent/missional" church mess.
July 14, 2012
In Religion Saves, Driscoll answers the top 9 questions that were asked in a survey for a preaching series at Mars Hill. The result is an eclectic mix of topics ranging from sex and dating, to the doctrine of grace, to birth control, to the emerging church. Driscoll's responses are pretty much what you'd predict as a Reformed conservative, but he is well read and most of the discussion has depth. I don't agree with all his conclusions, but agree with more than not.
Mars Hill is a young church (both the age of the church, and the average age of attendees), and this would be a great book for Christians in their late teens to mid to late twenties. In fact, I'd almost call it 'compulsory' reading. Most of the topics are relevant and important. However, the discussion is very frank in places, and I wouldn't recommend it for younger teens who may have been a bit sheltered.
I listened to the audio-book which is narrated by Driscoll. The content really lends itself to this format and having the author narrate means he can put the emphasis where he intends.
4 stars = I really like it.
Mars Hill is a young church (both the age of the church, and the average age of attendees), and this would be a great book for Christians in their late teens to mid to late twenties. In fact, I'd almost call it 'compulsory' reading. Most of the topics are relevant and important. However, the discussion is very frank in places, and I wouldn't recommend it for younger teens who may have been a bit sheltered.
I listened to the audio-book which is narrated by Driscoll. The content really lends itself to this format and having the author narrate means he can put the emphasis where he intends.
4 stars = I really like it.
August 27, 2017
I received this audio book years ago from Christian Audio (http://christianaudio.com/) as part of their monthly free audio book. For some reason I never listened to it but chose to go through some of the books I had and gave it a listen.
Mark Driscoll was the pastor of Mars Hill Church in Seattle Washington area. When this was written/recorded I am sure the church was still very active. Within a few years Mr. Driscoll would step down from the church because of claims of him bullying staff members. The church would at that point close it doors within a month. Not having been a member and not knowing much about him, this is all from what I read from sites like Wikipedia. I would tend to think it was true based on the tone of this book. While in a few places he says this is what I believe, the majority of the book is he way it is, take it or leave it.' That is where the problem starts because of what this book is supposed to be.
The theory behind this book is that the church opened up a web site to ask people to post their questions about Christianity and then people could vote on them. The top 9 questions questions would get a sermon based on them. I find it hard to believe that the number 1 question was about the emergent church, but I will have to take him at his word. The topics were wide ranging from sex and birth control to dating to the way churches should be run. Through it all Mr. Driscoll tells you how it should be. While I agree with him on quite a few things, I do not with all. So now, am I less a Christian just because I do not agree, or maybe I am not a Christian at all.
The main problem with a book like this is that it tries to tell you what Christians should be, but in the 2000 years since Christ died, every generation has tried to tell us that. Why should his book define it any better than any others. In listening to it I felt like I was back in my Catholic days and I was having to take what the Pope said because the Church said he heard from God.
The recording was OK. I have heard much better readings of books than this one. Mr. Driscoll read it himself. I would think that he would have had a better understanding of his book, but often there are pauses where there should not be and where they should be, they are not.
I cannot not really recommend this book. I gave it three stars because the content was for the most part OK. The attitude of the author comes through quite clearly.
Mark Driscoll was the pastor of Mars Hill Church in Seattle Washington area. When this was written/recorded I am sure the church was still very active. Within a few years Mr. Driscoll would step down from the church because of claims of him bullying staff members. The church would at that point close it doors within a month. Not having been a member and not knowing much about him, this is all from what I read from sites like Wikipedia. I would tend to think it was true based on the tone of this book. While in a few places he says this is what I believe, the majority of the book is he way it is, take it or leave it.' That is where the problem starts because of what this book is supposed to be.
The theory behind this book is that the church opened up a web site to ask people to post their questions about Christianity and then people could vote on them. The top 9 questions questions would get a sermon based on them. I find it hard to believe that the number 1 question was about the emergent church, but I will have to take him at his word. The topics were wide ranging from sex and birth control to dating to the way churches should be run. Through it all Mr. Driscoll tells you how it should be. While I agree with him on quite a few things, I do not with all. So now, am I less a Christian just because I do not agree, or maybe I am not a Christian at all.
The main problem with a book like this is that it tries to tell you what Christians should be, but in the 2000 years since Christ died, every generation has tried to tell us that. Why should his book define it any better than any others. In listening to it I felt like I was back in my Catholic days and I was having to take what the Pope said because the Church said he heard from God.
The recording was OK. I have heard much better readings of books than this one. Mr. Driscoll read it himself. I would think that he would have had a better understanding of his book, but often there are pauses where there should not be and where they should be, they are not.
I cannot not really recommend this book. I gave it three stars because the content was for the most part OK. The attitude of the author comes through quite clearly.
November 22, 2013
Mark Driscoll, pastor of Mars Hill Church in Seattle, WA is certainly no stranger to addressing what can be considered some of the more controversial religious and cultural topics of our day. His forthright style combined with what is clearly a passion for both the unchurched in his area of the country as well as what he would likely label the “frozen chosen” within the body of Christ, truly makes him a love or hate him type author. In his book Religion Saves + Nine Other Misconceptions, Driscoll once again dives in to a number of topics that unfortunately for many other Christian authors, have remained somewhat taboo.
The first controversial issue Driscoll discusses is that of birth control. He does an excellent job of identifying the various methods of birth control, getting past the emotional, often knee-jerk reactions many have concerning whether it is righteous for believers to use birth control or not. I was pretty fascinated with the history of birth control and the methods used by the ancients to prevent pregnancy. Driscoll rightly notes the need for godly wisdom and much prayer for families trying to decide what course to take. Of course, Driscoll overwhelmingly denounces abortion as a means of birth control, rightfully labeling it as “the sin of murder.” With that said, other forms of birth control are within the bounds of what can be considered as proper for believers and legalistic approaches such as no birth control ever, while a valid approach, are in the opinion of Driscoll overly legalistic, a position I would tend to agree with.
One area where Driscoll has shall we say gotten himself in a bit of hot water with some is in the area of humor. He admittedly has a tendency to poke fun at any and all groups of people which for some might seem just a bit over the top and outside the bounds of behavior that is becoming of a pastor. For Driscoll, his use of humor is rooted in his “mission to both put people in heaven and put the fun back in fundamentalism.” He also notes his belief “that evangelicalism needs a better patron saint than Ned Flanders of The Simpsons fame.” On many counts, I must admit I have to agree with that assertion. It is also important to remember the type of people Driscoll ministers to on a weekly basis on what is often termed as the “Left Coast.” Seattle, WA is not exactly known as a bastion of Christianity in many respects so the indie rockers, hippie types, gays, Mormons and other people groups often form the focus of his ministry and are often the type of people that wander into the various Mars Hills campuses. Driscoll reminds the reader that Jesus was not a suit wearing, stuffy preacher who never took time to have a good laugh and at times, to take people to task using descriptions that certainly got a rise out of the recipients. After all, how many times have you heard someone called “You brood of vipers”? Jesus quite often poked what could be termed as fun at the Pharisees using them as a teaching lesson in the process. Can this be overdone? Most certainly it can and some may say that Driscoll sometimes goes a bit too far. With that said, it was nevertheless interesting to see the various ways God uses humor throughout Scripture to make some valuable points.
Yet another thorny issue, this one an often debated theological topic, is that of predestination. If there is one chapter in this book that I would recommend focusing on, it would be this one. Even for the most gifted theologian who is well versed in the nuances of this particular doctrine, understanding how and what predestination is all about can be admittedly quite difficult. Driscoll does a great job of unpacking this difficult theological truth. Helpfully, he provides the reader with the historical background of how the two major approaches to this topic developed in church history. This development led to the establishment of what are the two major camps in regards to predestination specifically that of Calvinism and Arminianism, named after John Calvin and Jacob Arminius respectively. Throughout this chapter, Driscoll does use some rather heady theological terminology such as infralapsarianism and supralapsarianism (say those words ten times fast), however, he adroitly explains those one hundred dollar theological terms in a way all readers will be able to understand. Perhaps what I appreciated most about Driscoll’s discussion of predestination was his commitment to the use of Scripture to state his case. Far too many preachers and theologians refer to the writings of old dead guys (Driscoll’s term for the great theologians of days gone by) in reference to a topic such as predestination. While there is nothing wrong with that approach, it is always best to find our instruction on a theological topic from God’s Word. Driscoll’s conclusion to this important chapter was quite wonderful and I appreciated his statement that “the predestinating hand of God the Father reaching down to me through Jesus makes me worship him for being such an amazing Dad.”
One final chapter I found truly helpful in this great book is Driscoll’s treatment of sexual sin. In an age where the sins of Sodom and Gomorrah seem like mere child’s play, addressing what sexual sin is and how it should be dealt with from a biblical perspective is desperately needed. Unlike the portrayal of sexual deviancy as enjoyable and harmless, Driscoll rightly declares “sin leads to sadness, suffering, and ultimately death.” In noting the horrible impact that pornography has on society at large and individuals who are trapped in that sinful habit, Driscoll aptly notes “Pornography has the sad effect of objectifying people, thereby divorcing them from their body and consequently diminishing their dignity as God’s image bearers.” That is a very important statement to grasp. Sex outside the bounds of covenant marriage is quite frankly cosmic treason against a holy God. It completely twists the design for which God designed that most wonderful intimate activity, the joining of two as one. The “sidekick” of sexual deviancy, namely lust, draws people into various sexual sins, ultimately trapping them in a world that seems right, but whose end is the way of death. Driscoll provides a number of biblically rooted ways for people to break free from the bondage of sexual sins, clearly noting that sheer willpower is not enough. Only the power of God is sufficient to break the chains of bondage in this area that is gripping so many people in our day and age.
I highly recommend Religion Saves + Nine Other Misconceptions by Pastor Mark Driscoll. The various topics addressed in this book are many that people quite honestly need to read about and are issues which are very important in today’s society. While people may not totally agree with Driscoll’s style of ministry, they will find this book to be extremely timely and helpful and one that is grounded in sound biblical doctrine.
The first controversial issue Driscoll discusses is that of birth control. He does an excellent job of identifying the various methods of birth control, getting past the emotional, often knee-jerk reactions many have concerning whether it is righteous for believers to use birth control or not. I was pretty fascinated with the history of birth control and the methods used by the ancients to prevent pregnancy. Driscoll rightly notes the need for godly wisdom and much prayer for families trying to decide what course to take. Of course, Driscoll overwhelmingly denounces abortion as a means of birth control, rightfully labeling it as “the sin of murder.” With that said, other forms of birth control are within the bounds of what can be considered as proper for believers and legalistic approaches such as no birth control ever, while a valid approach, are in the opinion of Driscoll overly legalistic, a position I would tend to agree with.
One area where Driscoll has shall we say gotten himself in a bit of hot water with some is in the area of humor. He admittedly has a tendency to poke fun at any and all groups of people which for some might seem just a bit over the top and outside the bounds of behavior that is becoming of a pastor. For Driscoll, his use of humor is rooted in his “mission to both put people in heaven and put the fun back in fundamentalism.” He also notes his belief “that evangelicalism needs a better patron saint than Ned Flanders of The Simpsons fame.” On many counts, I must admit I have to agree with that assertion. It is also important to remember the type of people Driscoll ministers to on a weekly basis on what is often termed as the “Left Coast.” Seattle, WA is not exactly known as a bastion of Christianity in many respects so the indie rockers, hippie types, gays, Mormons and other people groups often form the focus of his ministry and are often the type of people that wander into the various Mars Hills campuses. Driscoll reminds the reader that Jesus was not a suit wearing, stuffy preacher who never took time to have a good laugh and at times, to take people to task using descriptions that certainly got a rise out of the recipients. After all, how many times have you heard someone called “You brood of vipers”? Jesus quite often poked what could be termed as fun at the Pharisees using them as a teaching lesson in the process. Can this be overdone? Most certainly it can and some may say that Driscoll sometimes goes a bit too far. With that said, it was nevertheless interesting to see the various ways God uses humor throughout Scripture to make some valuable points.
Yet another thorny issue, this one an often debated theological topic, is that of predestination. If there is one chapter in this book that I would recommend focusing on, it would be this one. Even for the most gifted theologian who is well versed in the nuances of this particular doctrine, understanding how and what predestination is all about can be admittedly quite difficult. Driscoll does a great job of unpacking this difficult theological truth. Helpfully, he provides the reader with the historical background of how the two major approaches to this topic developed in church history. This development led to the establishment of what are the two major camps in regards to predestination specifically that of Calvinism and Arminianism, named after John Calvin and Jacob Arminius respectively. Throughout this chapter, Driscoll does use some rather heady theological terminology such as infralapsarianism and supralapsarianism (say those words ten times fast), however, he adroitly explains those one hundred dollar theological terms in a way all readers will be able to understand. Perhaps what I appreciated most about Driscoll’s discussion of predestination was his commitment to the use of Scripture to state his case. Far too many preachers and theologians refer to the writings of old dead guys (Driscoll’s term for the great theologians of days gone by) in reference to a topic such as predestination. While there is nothing wrong with that approach, it is always best to find our instruction on a theological topic from God’s Word. Driscoll’s conclusion to this important chapter was quite wonderful and I appreciated his statement that “the predestinating hand of God the Father reaching down to me through Jesus makes me worship him for being such an amazing Dad.”
One final chapter I found truly helpful in this great book is Driscoll’s treatment of sexual sin. In an age where the sins of Sodom and Gomorrah seem like mere child’s play, addressing what sexual sin is and how it should be dealt with from a biblical perspective is desperately needed. Unlike the portrayal of sexual deviancy as enjoyable and harmless, Driscoll rightly declares “sin leads to sadness, suffering, and ultimately death.” In noting the horrible impact that pornography has on society at large and individuals who are trapped in that sinful habit, Driscoll aptly notes “Pornography has the sad effect of objectifying people, thereby divorcing them from their body and consequently diminishing their dignity as God’s image bearers.” That is a very important statement to grasp. Sex outside the bounds of covenant marriage is quite frankly cosmic treason against a holy God. It completely twists the design for which God designed that most wonderful intimate activity, the joining of two as one. The “sidekick” of sexual deviancy, namely lust, draws people into various sexual sins, ultimately trapping them in a world that seems right, but whose end is the way of death. Driscoll provides a number of biblically rooted ways for people to break free from the bondage of sexual sins, clearly noting that sheer willpower is not enough. Only the power of God is sufficient to break the chains of bondage in this area that is gripping so many people in our day and age.
I highly recommend Religion Saves + Nine Other Misconceptions by Pastor Mark Driscoll. The various topics addressed in this book are many that people quite honestly need to read about and are issues which are very important in today’s society. While people may not totally agree with Driscoll’s style of ministry, they will find this book to be extremely timely and helpful and one that is grounded in sound biblical doctrine.
March 16, 2021
This book was fun to read. Mark Driscoll has encouraged me through this book because he is edgy, writes what he really thinks, and isn't overly concerned with who might be offended. Religion Saves made me consider just how many people have misunderstood Christianity in general. Some have this idea that following rules is what makes us pleasing to God. Others don't seem to care and many have more questions than answers. Enter Driscoll and this practical guide wherein he touches on subjects that many people have on their minds.
In the spirit of Proverbs 27:17, Driscoll spares nothing and goes for the fences answering questions posed by those in his congregation. This book is not for the faint of heart which means there is no room for political correctness and timidity. The author is honest, gritty, and downright hilarious! He answers sensitive questions but gives you a sense that God cares about all of the things he addresses. The writer has a unique gift to unpack and explain lofty truth in language any of us can understand. I dare say that you will wrestle with what he says and most importantly, you will turn to the bible. His chapter on humor is worth the price of the book. You also get the sense that he is not ashamed of the gospel and he doesn't hesitate to make fun of himself for his short comings, while doing so in love. I hope you enjoy this book. Very thought provoking!
In the spirit of Proverbs 27:17, Driscoll spares nothing and goes for the fences answering questions posed by those in his congregation. This book is not for the faint of heart which means there is no room for political correctness and timidity. The author is honest, gritty, and downright hilarious! He answers sensitive questions but gives you a sense that God cares about all of the things he addresses. The writer has a unique gift to unpack and explain lofty truth in language any of us can understand. I dare say that you will wrestle with what he says and most importantly, you will turn to the bible. His chapter on humor is worth the price of the book. You also get the sense that he is not ashamed of the gospel and he doesn't hesitate to make fun of himself for his short comings, while doing so in love. I hope you enjoy this book. Very thought provoking!
July 19, 2024
I'm not too sure who the audience of this book is. Is it non-Christians? New Christians? Mature Christians? People who are into church politics? Perhaps all of the above. I suppose each chapter is stand-alone and the reader can pick and choose what they'd like to read. For non-Christians, they might be interested in the chapters on birth control, humour and predestination. For the new Christian, it might be the same, with additional chapters on sexual sin, faith and works and dating. There are chapters on the emerging church and regulative principle which were more about the way church is run and the politics around it, so a more experienced Christian might have more thoughts on it. Driscoll is quite a controversial figure so that was in the back of my mind as I was reading the book. His chapter on humour was quite crude for a pastor and quite a different tone to the rest of the chapters, which could very easily turn people off as it's Chapter 2. The chapter on the Emerging Church was also a bit odd as it was a little like a name-and-shame. Overall, there were a few interesting points to consider - I wouldn't discredit the entire book because of his reputation but I'm not sure I'd recommend it - maybe only if someone already had the book and was interested in specific chapters.
November 24, 2021
In this book, Mark has helped to identify many misunderstandings within and without the church, and has shed much light on these subjects. I find his boldness and candor righteous and refreshing. He pretty clearly distinguishes between Biblical certainties and personal preferences and identifies where he is speaking about personal preference. Mark plainly identifies areas of Christian life for which the Bible has no commands or prohibitions. Overall, the work seems to me to be highly objectively Biblical, and places more value on the indwelling if the Holy Spirit than is typically communicated in the Christian sphere of influence. This book has reinforced much of my own previously felt-but-unverbalized convictions, and opened my eyes to bigger pictures. The only real complaint I have is his weird, seemingly obsessive ridicule of homeschooling. In these times, homeschooling is probably the wisest choice for those who can handle it.
July 16, 2019
Mark Driscoll, pastor of Mars Hill Church in Seattle answered questions from his congregation in an evening service (without children there). The top nine sermons are included in this book. In the introduction he states that “religion never saved anyone, and religious answers to complex questions are simply misconceptions, hence the title. His answers are Biblical and he notes that many of today’s issues are not addressed in the Bible.
Questions covered deal with dating and sex, the long standing debate between Arminians and Calvinists, Catholics and Protestants, the emerging church and how Christians should relate to culture and the lost. The chapter on what worship is and isn’t describes differing views about this in a clear and balanced way. This is an excellent and well researched book written in an easy to read format.
Questions covered deal with dating and sex, the long standing debate between Arminians and Calvinists, Catholics and Protestants, the emerging church and how Christians should relate to culture and the lost. The chapter on what worship is and isn’t describes differing views about this in a clear and balanced way. This is an excellent and well researched book written in an easy to read format.
February 28, 2019
Very mixed bag for me. He was either right on the money or he was very wrong on some fronts (after spending time in prayer and reviewing scripture). I’d rather people interested in reading this book talk to their pastors and/or do their own research using the Bible.
January 17, 2019
I particularly appreciate chapter 8 and Driscoll's handling of the Emergent Village
January 24, 2016
The Book
My beautiful wife gave me this book for Christmas, and ever since I've been slowly picking my way through it's pages. It's that type of book. You can read a chapter one night, put the book down, pick it up again a month later, and read another chapter. The chapters stand on their own.
Religion Saves was a sermon series at Mars Hill Church before it became a book. Driscoll gave his church members (and really anyone who visited the church website) the chance to vote on his sermon topics. The nine most popular questions, as determined by the online voting, were developed into the Religion Saves sermon series. The book came about after the fact.
The questions preached / written upon were:
9. Birth Control: There's no doubt the Bible says children are a blessing, but the Bible doesn't seem to address the specific topic of birth control. Is this a black-and-white topic, or does if all under liberties?
8. Humor: Why do you make jokes in sermons about Mormon missionaries, homosexuals, trench coat wearers, single men, vegans, and emo kids, and then expect these groups to come to know God through those sermons?
7. Predestination: Why does an all-loving, all-knowing, and all-sovereign God will into creation people he foreknows will suffer eternal condemnation - and the Romans 9:20 answer seems like a cop-out!
6. Grace: Of all the things you teach, what parts of Christianity do you still wrestle with? What's hardest for you to believe?
5. Sexual Sin: How should Christian men and women go about breaking free form the bondage of sexual sin?
4. Faith and Works: If salvation is by faith alone, then why are so many verses that say or imply the opposite - that salvation is by works?
3. Dating: How does a Christian date righteously, and what are the physical, emotional, and mentally connecting boundaries a Christian must set while developing an intimate relationship prior to marriage?
2. The Emerging Church: What can traditional or established churches learn from "emerging" churches?
1. The Regulative Principle: Do you believe that the Scripture not only regulates our theology but also our methodology? In other words, do you believe in the regulative principle? If so, to what degree? If not, why not?
My Opinion
As you can see, some of this is pretty heady and some of it is pretty practical, but most all of it is interesting. One of my favorite things about Driscoll's writing style is how well-stated and organized his books are. He manages again and again to state an unbelievable amount of information in a concise, understandable, well-organized, digestable-for-nearly-anyone format. Even if you are a pastor, and think you already know your answer / opinion on all of these questions, this is a useful resource. Because let's face it, unless you're D.A. Carson or John Piper, Driscoll probably answers these questions better than you would.
My favorite chapters are: Birth Control, Predestination, Sexual Sin, Dating, and The Emerging Church. I would argue that each of these chapters warrant the purchase of the book alone.
Really good read!
p.s. - you can watch all the sermons online rather than read here:
http://www.marshillchurch.org/media/r...
My beautiful wife gave me this book for Christmas, and ever since I've been slowly picking my way through it's pages. It's that type of book. You can read a chapter one night, put the book down, pick it up again a month later, and read another chapter. The chapters stand on their own.
Religion Saves was a sermon series at Mars Hill Church before it became a book. Driscoll gave his church members (and really anyone who visited the church website) the chance to vote on his sermon topics. The nine most popular questions, as determined by the online voting, were developed into the Religion Saves sermon series. The book came about after the fact.
The questions preached / written upon were:
9. Birth Control: There's no doubt the Bible says children are a blessing, but the Bible doesn't seem to address the specific topic of birth control. Is this a black-and-white topic, or does if all under liberties?
8. Humor: Why do you make jokes in sermons about Mormon missionaries, homosexuals, trench coat wearers, single men, vegans, and emo kids, and then expect these groups to come to know God through those sermons?
7. Predestination: Why does an all-loving, all-knowing, and all-sovereign God will into creation people he foreknows will suffer eternal condemnation - and the Romans 9:20 answer seems like a cop-out!
6. Grace: Of all the things you teach, what parts of Christianity do you still wrestle with? What's hardest for you to believe?
5. Sexual Sin: How should Christian men and women go about breaking free form the bondage of sexual sin?
4. Faith and Works: If salvation is by faith alone, then why are so many verses that say or imply the opposite - that salvation is by works?
3. Dating: How does a Christian date righteously, and what are the physical, emotional, and mentally connecting boundaries a Christian must set while developing an intimate relationship prior to marriage?
2. The Emerging Church: What can traditional or established churches learn from "emerging" churches?
1. The Regulative Principle: Do you believe that the Scripture not only regulates our theology but also our methodology? In other words, do you believe in the regulative principle? If so, to what degree? If not, why not?
My Opinion
As you can see, some of this is pretty heady and some of it is pretty practical, but most all of it is interesting. One of my favorite things about Driscoll's writing style is how well-stated and organized his books are. He manages again and again to state an unbelievable amount of information in a concise, understandable, well-organized, digestable-for-nearly-anyone format. Even if you are a pastor, and think you already know your answer / opinion on all of these questions, this is a useful resource. Because let's face it, unless you're D.A. Carson or John Piper, Driscoll probably answers these questions better than you would.
My favorite chapters are: Birth Control, Predestination, Sexual Sin, Dating, and The Emerging Church. I would argue that each of these chapters warrant the purchase of the book alone.
Really good read!
p.s. - you can watch all the sermons online rather than read here:
http://www.marshillchurch.org/media/r...
June 3, 2010
When the chance to review/be one of the first to read Mark Driscoll’s new book “Religion Saves: and Nine Other Misconceptions” I jumped at the chance.
Driscoll is the founding and lead pastor of Mars Hill Church in Seattle, Washington, and a well-known figure. I became acquainted with his work during Nightline’s debate, held earlier this year, on whether or not Satan exists.
The book, with its catchy title, evolved from a sermon series Driscoll developed after he was inspired by Paul’s writings in 1 Corinthians. In that chapter of the Bible, Paul answered a series of questions posed by the church in Corinth.
For this sermon series, Driscoll invited people to submit questions they wanted answered most, through his church’s website. With more than 800 questions posed, and more than 340,000 votes cast, Driscoll boiled the series down to nine questions focusing on birth control, humor, predestination, grace, sexual sin, faith and works, dating, the emerging church and the regulative principle.
The 260-plus page book includes a plethora of footnotes and other notes – all designed to help you delve into the nine topics in an informed manner.
Driscoll’s writing appears similar to his speaking style. The book, though weighty in subject, is easy to read. Driscoll presents a variety of “sides” when applicable, all while explaining what he believes and why.
I’ll admit, my reading of theology books has been limited since graduating from seminary. Driscoll’s book provided a mental challenge for me.
It’s refreshing to find someone – anyone – who will address topics revolving around “hot button” issues such as birth control, sex, faith and works, and even the emerging church.
While I may not agree with everything Driscoll writes, I am glad that I took time to read his book.
For the record, I believe and follow the principles found in the Wesleyan/Armenian theology concerning predestination and prevenient grace. (Driscoll is unapologetically a follower of Calvinism).
I believe Driscoll has tapped into a current desire by many to define their identity – especially when it involves faith issues.
People are searching for answers – and for direction. If anything, Driscoll’s book gives readers a place to start their journey of discovery.
I’ll be honest. His book – and arguments – left me digging out “old” notes from class, as I reminded myself the reason for what I believe. Even after reading several of the chapters more than once, I still find myself trying to digest the topics and issues.
Ultimately, even if you do not agree with everything he writes, you will find some well researched ideas, which will definitely leave you searching for additional answers as you affirm what you believe in these faith issues.
Driscoll is the founding and lead pastor of Mars Hill Church in Seattle, Washington, and a well-known figure. I became acquainted with his work during Nightline’s debate, held earlier this year, on whether or not Satan exists.
The book, with its catchy title, evolved from a sermon series Driscoll developed after he was inspired by Paul’s writings in 1 Corinthians. In that chapter of the Bible, Paul answered a series of questions posed by the church in Corinth.
For this sermon series, Driscoll invited people to submit questions they wanted answered most, through his church’s website. With more than 800 questions posed, and more than 340,000 votes cast, Driscoll boiled the series down to nine questions focusing on birth control, humor, predestination, grace, sexual sin, faith and works, dating, the emerging church and the regulative principle.
The 260-plus page book includes a plethora of footnotes and other notes – all designed to help you delve into the nine topics in an informed manner.
Driscoll’s writing appears similar to his speaking style. The book, though weighty in subject, is easy to read. Driscoll presents a variety of “sides” when applicable, all while explaining what he believes and why.
I’ll admit, my reading of theology books has been limited since graduating from seminary. Driscoll’s book provided a mental challenge for me.
It’s refreshing to find someone – anyone – who will address topics revolving around “hot button” issues such as birth control, sex, faith and works, and even the emerging church.
While I may not agree with everything Driscoll writes, I am glad that I took time to read his book.
For the record, I believe and follow the principles found in the Wesleyan/Armenian theology concerning predestination and prevenient grace. (Driscoll is unapologetically a follower of Calvinism).
I believe Driscoll has tapped into a current desire by many to define their identity – especially when it involves faith issues.
People are searching for answers – and for direction. If anything, Driscoll’s book gives readers a place to start their journey of discovery.
I’ll be honest. His book – and arguments – left me digging out “old” notes from class, as I reminded myself the reason for what I believe. Even after reading several of the chapters more than once, I still find myself trying to digest the topics and issues.
Ultimately, even if you do not agree with everything he writes, you will find some well researched ideas, which will definitely leave you searching for additional answers as you affirm what you believe in these faith issues.
October 5, 2012
This book is a good read. Each chapter is punching, direct and to the point. Driscoll never skirts around the matter. He is very practical and pastoral in his approach. He is also very direct and takes neither nonsense nor prisoners.
I would recommend most of the chapters to any Christian, and wouold endorse most of what he says.
The weakest chapter is the chapter on presdestination, where Driscoll simply falls back on his Reformed/Calvinistic dogma without giving proper consideration to the subject. This chapter is probably the only real attempt to address an academic subject, but Driscoll fails miserably. The major shortcoming is that Driscoll looks at predestination in isolation, using selected so-called proof texts without exegesism and failing to consider a full view of allied issues such as love and perseverance.
If Grace is irresistable, then it is not loving by the Bible's own standard - love is not self-seeking - it is not rude - it always protects. Thus a "love" that imposes its will on another is not real love. Real love requires an essence of vulnerability. Love needs to be reciprocated, and this leaves the initiator open to rejection. Indeed, this is the way in which God depicts his relationship with man throughout the scriptures. In Eden, God could have created man to be an autominton, without the possibility of rejecting God's love - but he chose not to, allowing Adam and Eve to chose disobedience. The prophets are literred with pleading for Israel to return to God, and the New Testament emphasises the need for Christians to persevere in their faith - indeed the Gospel of John and the book of Hebrews were written for this specific purpose (Revelation also has a strong element of encouraging peseverance).
God's love is enormous; so enormous that it is overwhelming - but it cannot be irresistable, because if it was it is no longer love, but has become something else: possessiveness; domination; imposition; abuse; control. Love always protects - it even protects the right to reject the overtures of love. This has always been how God's love works. If it didn't, man would never have fallen in the first place.
Calvinism rejects this view of God for one reason. It believes that it detracts from God's sovereignty. However this is purely a misconception. God is all powerful; however, He is also loving and relational. He desires that His overtures of love (always His initiative) are reciprocated.
Any how, apart from this one weak chapter, this book is a fantastic read, and should fine a place on every Christian's bookshelf.
Highly recommended.
Steve
I would recommend most of the chapters to any Christian, and wouold endorse most of what he says.
The weakest chapter is the chapter on presdestination, where Driscoll simply falls back on his Reformed/Calvinistic dogma without giving proper consideration to the subject. This chapter is probably the only real attempt to address an academic subject, but Driscoll fails miserably. The major shortcoming is that Driscoll looks at predestination in isolation, using selected so-called proof texts without exegesism and failing to consider a full view of allied issues such as love and perseverance.
If Grace is irresistable, then it is not loving by the Bible's own standard - love is not self-seeking - it is not rude - it always protects. Thus a "love" that imposes its will on another is not real love. Real love requires an essence of vulnerability. Love needs to be reciprocated, and this leaves the initiator open to rejection. Indeed, this is the way in which God depicts his relationship with man throughout the scriptures. In Eden, God could have created man to be an autominton, without the possibility of rejecting God's love - but he chose not to, allowing Adam and Eve to chose disobedience. The prophets are literred with pleading for Israel to return to God, and the New Testament emphasises the need for Christians to persevere in their faith - indeed the Gospel of John and the book of Hebrews were written for this specific purpose (Revelation also has a strong element of encouraging peseverance).
God's love is enormous; so enormous that it is overwhelming - but it cannot be irresistable, because if it was it is no longer love, but has become something else: possessiveness; domination; imposition; abuse; control. Love always protects - it even protects the right to reject the overtures of love. This has always been how God's love works. If it didn't, man would never have fallen in the first place.
Calvinism rejects this view of God for one reason. It believes that it detracts from God's sovereignty. However this is purely a misconception. God is all powerful; however, He is also loving and relational. He desires that His overtures of love (always His initiative) are reciprocated.
Any how, apart from this one weak chapter, this book is a fantastic read, and should fine a place on every Christian's bookshelf.
Highly recommended.
Steve
September 11, 2009
A friend of mine introduced me to Mark Driscoll last year, so when this book came up for review I jumped at the opportunity to check it out.
Let me tell you Mark doesn’t hold back in this book! wow. I was surprised at how he jumped right in with his candid remarks (ie. in the opening about people giving him flack for having five kids!)
I like what Mark does to dispel the lies here. He brings God’s Word, and historical facts to challenge misconstrued beliefs and I was surprised and actually a little relieved when I read the first chapter on Birth Control. This is such a hot topic and he digs deep into what God’s Word says not what the “expert” Christians say. That meant a lot to me, as I know I’ve felt demeaned and hurt by a lot of “Christian” views (never mind non-Christian views) on this subject. I love that he says “Children are a blessing, not a command. Were we commanded to have children, then those who never marry, like Jesus, and those who are barren would be in sin for not obeying God’s command.”
I won’t even attempt to do the chapter justice, but let me just say he gives a very large look at this topic and I was surprised and encouraged and shocked even by some of his findings (in a good way.)
I appreciate Mark’s humor through out. For a few moments of crying, the next moment I’m laughing out loud and Mr. C is giving me strange looks and than I end up reading to him.. I love it. He really brings the heaviness of the subjects to a real level of understanding, and uses humor to make us realize our mistakes.
I will admit this book is not for the faint of heart and that some people will not appreciate his humor or his exploration of certain topics. They will be upset by his findings (though they are biblical) — basically he doesn’t swirl around the subject but is straight foward… very “in-you-face” style that I quite honestly love. He is not ashamed of the gospel and doesn’t hesitate to make fun of himself for his short comings, while doing so in love.
I’ll be digging into more of Mark’s books in the future!
Let me tell you Mark doesn’t hold back in this book! wow. I was surprised at how he jumped right in with his candid remarks (ie. in the opening about people giving him flack for having five kids!)
I like what Mark does to dispel the lies here. He brings God’s Word, and historical facts to challenge misconstrued beliefs and I was surprised and actually a little relieved when I read the first chapter on Birth Control. This is such a hot topic and he digs deep into what God’s Word says not what the “expert” Christians say. That meant a lot to me, as I know I’ve felt demeaned and hurt by a lot of “Christian” views (never mind non-Christian views) on this subject. I love that he says “Children are a blessing, not a command. Were we commanded to have children, then those who never marry, like Jesus, and those who are barren would be in sin for not obeying God’s command.”
I won’t even attempt to do the chapter justice, but let me just say he gives a very large look at this topic and I was surprised and encouraged and shocked even by some of his findings (in a good way.)
I appreciate Mark’s humor through out. For a few moments of crying, the next moment I’m laughing out loud and Mr. C is giving me strange looks and than I end up reading to him.. I love it. He really brings the heaviness of the subjects to a real level of understanding, and uses humor to make us realize our mistakes.
I will admit this book is not for the faint of heart and that some people will not appreciate his humor or his exploration of certain topics. They will be upset by his findings (though they are biblical) — basically he doesn’t swirl around the subject but is straight foward… very “in-you-face” style that I quite honestly love. He is not ashamed of the gospel and doesn’t hesitate to make fun of himself for his short comings, while doing so in love.
I’ll be digging into more of Mark’s books in the future!
March 14, 2015
The problem with this book is that it presents itself as seeker friendly when it�s not. His answers to the theological questions, like Faith/Works, Emerging Church, and Scripture are particularly difficult for an unconditioned hearer to navigate without re-reading. Furthermore, his logic is at times frustrating. Clearly, he did vet this book with anyone who disagreed strongly with him, because had he, it would have been easier for those of us who don�t think exactly like him to follow his logic (having unsympathetic editors would have also helped him tone down his arrogance a bit). [return][return]For example, at several points during the Emerging Church chapter he admits he is not certain what one of the pastors he is criticizing means, so what does he do? Contact the pastor himself and ask? Nope. He contacts a colleague whom he knows is critical of the pastor and asks shares their take. This is particularly frustrating given that Driscoll admits on the outset that he personally knows, has worked with, and at some level respects the pastors he discusses. So why not contact them? I think church leaders need to call heretics �heretics,� but just because they�re outside the faith should not mean they are no longer deserving of basic respect. Christians don�t like it when generalizations are made of us and we are defined by our enemies; why should we do that to others? (Lk 6:27ff, Mk 12:31)[return][return]This is sad, because I am largely very like-minded to Driscoll and really appreciated his Death by Love. From reading other reviewers I suspect that this books plays well for those who are familiar with the video/sermon series on which it was based. Unfortunately, I am not.
July 28, 2009
Religion Saves by Mark Driscoll is a compilation of sermons Driscoll gave at his Mars Hill church in response to questions submitted by his congregation online. From 893 questions, he narrowed it down to the most popular and occasionally most controversial such as birth control and worship styles. I appreciated Driscoll's almost irreverent writing style that doesn't allow readers to take these issues too seriously, especially when they are the ones that divide believers. However, he doesn't dismiss these questions lightly, using just the right amount of humor without becoming flippant. During the first half of this book, I felt like I had finally found someone who was able to put into words my beliefs, and on some issues that I wasn't quite sure where to stand, Driscoll combined Scripture and reason into positions that make sense. When the American church has lost its authority in its quest to be culturally friendly, Driscoll calls them on it and doesn't pull his punches! When I reached the chapter on predestination/free will/elect, I was stopped short by Driscoll's forthright Calvinism, although he did present the Arminian side fairly. I've always considered myself an Arminian , but after reading his careful arguments, I was forced to do some research of my own, and while I can't call myself a Calvinist yet, I'm definitely on that path. I think ultimately, that's the best way to use this book. Read each chapter with an open mind, then read the Scriptures and talk to people you trust who are strong in their faith before forming an opinion. If widely read, this book could just save Christianity from itself.
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July 25, 2011At Mark Driscoll's church website, people were allowed to post any question and vote for their favorites. The top nine questions eventually became this book.
The title and cover art are a bit misleading. The preface claims that the book aims to "debunk the junk promulgated by religion on everything." In actuality, it's just a smorgasbord of things that Christians tend to wonder about.
The major perk of the loosely strung format is that the reader can turn immediately to chapter questions that interest him. I easily read the entire book out of order.
The down side, however, is that some topics soar while others flop. Questions 2 (The Emerging Church) and 7 (Predestination) were great. Driscoll's inside background with emergent leaders makes for an enlightening and fair position, and he cites over 125 Scripture references in discussing predestination. Question 9 (Birth Control) was also thoroughly researched and well presented.
Questions 1 (The Regulative Principle) and 8 (Humor) were not great. Though not within Driscoll's control, I was surprised at the number one choice and wondered how the questions were originally tallied. And in Humor, he far overextends Scripture to defend what I believe to be biting sarcasm.
Overall, a hit-and-miss. I recommend flipping to a few striking chapters and leaving the rest.
The title and cover art are a bit misleading. The preface claims that the book aims to "debunk the junk promulgated by religion on everything." In actuality, it's just a smorgasbord of things that Christians tend to wonder about.
The major perk of the loosely strung format is that the reader can turn immediately to chapter questions that interest him. I easily read the entire book out of order.
The down side, however, is that some topics soar while others flop. Questions 2 (The Emerging Church) and 7 (Predestination) were great. Driscoll's inside background with emergent leaders makes for an enlightening and fair position, and he cites over 125 Scripture references in discussing predestination. Question 9 (Birth Control) was also thoroughly researched and well presented.
Questions 1 (The Regulative Principle) and 8 (Humor) were not great. Though not within Driscoll's control, I was surprised at the number one choice and wondered how the questions were originally tallied. And in Humor, he far overextends Scripture to defend what I believe to be biting sarcasm.
Overall, a hit-and-miss. I recommend flipping to a few striking chapters and leaving the rest.
July 3, 2012
some very good stuff here . .esp. the chapter that sort of outlines a recent history of the emergent/emerging/missional church . . lots in there i wasn't really privy to .. the chapters on big theological stuff--predestination, grace, etc.--were good too, though nothing much unexpected, i guess . . the one chapter that bothered me for sure was the one regarding humor . . first of all, i don't think the question of whether humor being used for effect in the church is okay is really much of a live issue to begin with, so i definitely don't need proof texting about how Jesus told jokes, etc. . . of course He did . . besides, the examples of "jokes" that Driscoll gives aren't jokes . . they're offensive . . this may be my own too-PC-ness coming out . . and i think there are funny things about NASCAR people too, but for a pastor to make negative "jokes" about *anyone* from the pulpit, if there's *any* chance that it will slight them and affect how they're responding to the gospel, how they're worshipping, etc. is unacceptable to me . . come on brother: we're going to pick on *World of Warcraft* nerds? why? . . what if one of them is truly offended? is it still okay or funny then? . . i don't know . . that whole section seemed really fratboyish and douchey and bullyish to me . . didn't get it at all . . anyway: some good stuff, but a mixed-bag in other ways, i guess . .
May 5, 2010
mostly, it was pretty good. i disagreed with some of his thoughts that veered a little on the Calvinistic side, but mostly the book was decent.
this was my first real chance to hear anything from Driscoll. i've heard good things from friends, but never really read or heard anything from him.
the book is his response to ten user-submitted questions from his website which were voted upon, and then he goes from the least to the most popular question. as you can guess, there are some predictable questions (like the one about dating).
i liked what he had to say about the eroneous teaching (and teachers) of the Emergent movement. i liked what he had to say about dating--even though i skipped over most of it because...i'm married. his scholarship is commendable and, even though i listened to this in audiobook form, it sounded really smart.
i cant put my finger on why i didnt love this book. i think it has to do with his tone or his emphasis on human sin (which, of course, i believe). maybe it's just the fact that he sounded almost pissed off. i dont know. it was okay. i don't know if i'd recommend it, though.
this was my first real chance to hear anything from Driscoll. i've heard good things from friends, but never really read or heard anything from him.
the book is his response to ten user-submitted questions from his website which were voted upon, and then he goes from the least to the most popular question. as you can guess, there are some predictable questions (like the one about dating).
i liked what he had to say about the eroneous teaching (and teachers) of the Emergent movement. i liked what he had to say about dating--even though i skipped over most of it because...i'm married. his scholarship is commendable and, even though i listened to this in audiobook form, it sounded really smart.
i cant put my finger on why i didnt love this book. i think it has to do with his tone or his emphasis on human sin (which, of course, i believe). maybe it's just the fact that he sounded almost pissed off. i dont know. it was okay. i don't know if i'd recommend it, though.
February 23, 2012
He raised some social and personal issues I was unaware of, historical backgrounds on these topics (like birth control started from centuries before but what grossed me out was tampons used from horse boo-boo was like...are you kidding me?), and biblical insight that also seemed or felt a bit manipulated to meet the author's take on things. Could it be misinterpreted based on the Bible concepts although he had researched all worldly perspectives to the extreme?
Misconceptions: (my ratings per chapter)
Birth Control 0
Humor 3 (laughed)
Predestination 3 (Conclusion was powerful to see God's love for us, from his own fatherly experience and daughter having free will like God grants us but sometimes have to grab us from a deadly thing/experience to remain saved).
Grace 2 (overly researched and rather boring)
Sexual Sin 3 (would have been higher minus all the research jargon in the beginning, but once he got to the main question/point on how Christians can avoid sexual sin is what I liked best of this chapter)
Faith and Works 2
Dating 2
Emerging Church 0
Regulative Principle (need to find out what this is???) 2
Total: stars.
Misconceptions: (my ratings per chapter)
Birth Control 0
Humor 3 (laughed)
Predestination 3 (Conclusion was powerful to see God's love for us, from his own fatherly experience and daughter having free will like God grants us but sometimes have to grab us from a deadly thing/experience to remain saved).
Grace 2 (overly researched and rather boring)
Sexual Sin 3 (would have been higher minus all the research jargon in the beginning, but once he got to the main question/point on how Christians can avoid sexual sin is what I liked best of this chapter)
Faith and Works 2
Dating 2
Emerging Church 0
Regulative Principle (need to find out what this is???) 2
Total: stars.
May 10, 2016
Earlier this year I started listening to Mark Driscoll’s sermons from his Trial series from First and Second Peter. I’ve been encouraged and challenged by them, so when I saw this book I decided to give it a try.
The book was written in response to the top nine questions asked on the Mars Hill website during a period where people were asked to write in with the questions they would like answered.
Chapter one started with the 9th most popular question. The question was about birth control. First, let me say that I found the chapter entirely sound theologically. However, I found the straightforward, descriptive language used in that chapter over the top for me personally.
I have either agreed with, or at very least appreciated, the theological foundation laid out in each chapter. After birth control, the other chapters are about humor, predestination, grace, sexual sin, faith and works, dating, the emerging church and the regulative principle. If these topics are some of your top 9 questions then you may want to pick up a copy of Religion Saves and check out Pastor Mark’s answer as he expounds on how the Bible addresses these questions.
The book was written in response to the top nine questions asked on the Mars Hill website during a period where people were asked to write in with the questions they would like answered.
Chapter one started with the 9th most popular question. The question was about birth control. First, let me say that I found the chapter entirely sound theologically. However, I found the straightforward, descriptive language used in that chapter over the top for me personally.
I have either agreed with, or at very least appreciated, the theological foundation laid out in each chapter. After birth control, the other chapters are about humor, predestination, grace, sexual sin, faith and works, dating, the emerging church and the regulative principle. If these topics are some of your top 9 questions then you may want to pick up a copy of Religion Saves and check out Pastor Mark’s answer as he expounds on how the Bible addresses these questions.
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