Pongalswamy : No No. You are getting it wrong. Hinduism is different. Hindutva is different. You tell her. You just read the book (looking at me).
Sarah : He doesn't need to tell me. I know. Hinduism is all encompassing liberal religion. Hindutva is just hating Muslims.
PongalSwamy : You are prejudiced. Brainwashed by leftists. Hindutva is a way of life. The way of life of all Hindus. Tell her (Giving an angry look now).
Me : Well I am still confused.
Pongalswamy : That you are always. It is such a clear and concise book. The best book on the subject ever written. What is the confusion?
Me : Who is a Hindu and who is not? What is the purpose of the book? Why major portion (more than 2/3rd of the book is devoted to justify that the term Hindu has been there in India from Vedic times and not originated from Iranian or Western sources?
Pongalswamy : Let's go one by one. First about the word 'Hindu'. Of course, it is our own word. Sindhu.
Me : So we are Sindhus? And our country is Sindhusthan?
Pongalswamy : According to Vedic scriptures - Yes.
Me : But Savarkar mainly quotes from Bhavishya Puran from the ancient times. Isn't that the most controversial of all the scriptures, authenticity of which is questioned by scholars?
Pongalswamy : Only by the western Mlechhas and leftist idiots. Who cares what they think? Sindhu is a common term to denote all people of Indus valley civilizaiton from Vedic times.
Me : Then why not quote its reference from the Vedas or Upanishads or Mahabharat or Ramayan?
Pongalswamy : Doesn't matter. It is written in Bhabisya Purana. Sindhu is an eternal word. As Veer Savarkarjee said, S has been mispronounced as H.
Me : Then why stick to the mis-pronouncement? Since, there is clear distinction between religious Hindus and Hindutva Hindus, why not call the latter as Sindhus?
Sarah : I am telling you, the word is used just to confuse people.
Pongalswamy : Hindu is now more accepted term.
Sarah : But what you call Hindu and what world calls Hindu is different.
Pongalswamy : Of course. But where is the confusion? According to Veer, Hindus are 'All those who love the land that stretches from Sindhu to Sindhu, from the Indus to the Seas, as their fatherland and consequently claim to inherit the blood of the race that has evolved by incorparation and adaptation, from the ancient Saptasindhus.'
Me : So my friend Vikram Jain is a Hindu?
Pongalswamy : Religion point of view, he is a Jain. But Hindutva point of view, he is Hindu.
Me : What about Dilabar Singh?
Pongalswamy : Sikh. But Hindutva Hindu.
Me : How about our gardener Murmu uncle? He is from tribal part of Odisha. Ancestors tribal. Culture very different. Rituals very different. Completely none political. Doesn't understand much of modern ways of life.
Pongalswamy : We will take him as Hindu. Both religion and Hindutva.
Me : Hussain Mir?
Pongalswamy : Grrr… Of course Non Hindu.
Me : But, he is born between Sindhu to Sindhu. All his ancestors have been here as long as he remembers. And of course he loves this land. And clearly he inherits the blood. He also celebrates Holi with me.
Pongalswamy : He has a different blood. Different culture.
Me : What are you talking about? He is of the same race. I am sure some of his ancestor would have converted from Hinduism to Islam.
Pongalswamy : Does he admit that?
Me : How can he deny that?
Pongalswamy : But still he is not Hindutva Hindu. Cause he violates one big tenet. And that is he has to consider this has his Holy Land. And not Arab. So no Muslims can be ever Hindutva Hindu
Sarah : I am telling you, the whole definition is formed to exclude Muslims.
Pongalswamy : Even Christians are not Hindus. As they pray to Vatican.
Me : OK. Fine. Tell me what about Sarah. Is she Hindu?
Pongalswamy : Of course, Not. She is a communist. She is left liberal. She is completely westernized. She eats beef. She is not Hindu.
Sarah : Thank you. I don't need that label. You keep it to yourself. I am happy being a non Hindu. I am a law abiding patriotic Indian citizen. And that's all I want. I am proud of my Indian heritage which included Hindus and Non Hindus.
Pongalswamy : All Hindus will unite and throw away all non Hindus one day.
Sarah : In your dreams.
Me : Hold on. Hold on. Let's not fight. We are not in a TV show. We are trying to understand the book. So, what about my friend Nangpung Ling. He is from Bali. Observes Hinduism. But parentage Indonesian.
Pongalswamy : Religion - Hindu. Hindutva - non Hindu.
Me : Julia Roberts?
Pongalswamy : Religion - converted Hindu. Hindutva - well if she loves India, we will accept her as we did to Sister Nibedita or Annie Besant. But she has to marry a Hindu. Possibly me.
Sarah : Sure. She is coming to you in the next flight.
Me : What about your brother's son who is born and brought up in US, who is an ardent follower of Hinduism, but an US citizen, nevertheless?
Pongalswamy : Hindu. Hindu. Sweet boy.
Me : But she is marrying a Christian girl. What about their kid?
Pongalswamy : I agree, his blood becomes impure. When he grows up, we will ask him. If he loves India, then yes. else Non Hindu.
Me : But my friend Safina loves India. She is more Indian than anyone I know. Wears only Saree. Hates western food and culture. She is married to Ravi who is an atheist though. Is she Hindu?
Pongalswamy : Ravi Yes. Safina - Never in this life time.
Sarah : Told you. Segregation. Racist, hate manual.
Pongalswamy : You commiee libtard pseudo-intellecutal anti-Hindus, who don't have guts to condemn the Islamic extremism and you call yourself seculars? You can never understand. Those who consider this as Fatherland and Holy land and inherit the blood and consider the sadhus as their Gurus are Hindus. Rest are ……… The book doesn't divide, but unites. All hindus. There is not a single line in the book that talks against Muslims or any other communities. Is there?
Me : So, what do you think is the purpose of the book?
Pongalswamy : To bring back our lost identity. To make us feel proud once again. To show the world who we are and who we are not. Who are us and who are them. What is part of our history and what is not. Our civilization was the best. No one has the past that we had. What our saints invented, the current so called nobel laureates can't even understand. Our scriptures are the best. So scientific. Our philosophies were superior. Our kings were the most powerful. Our people were the richest.
Me : You use the past tense to describe us. Isn't it even more crude form of 'Janta hai mera baap kaun hai?' It is good to be proud of your past, but shouldn't we see what we are today and how can we be better tomorrow - ....(together?)....?
Pongalswamy : Hindus will unite under one nationalism. Hindu Rashtra will rule the world. We will be the no. 1 nation. Wait and see. Process has already started. You just wait and see.
Sarah : My head is reeling. I need a drink.
Pongalswamy : Jai Shri Ram. Jai Hindu Rashtra.