There's arguably no more critical & pressing topic than the relation of science & religion in the modern world. Science has given us the methods for discovering truth, while religion remains the single greatest force for generating meaning. Yet the two are seen as mutually exclusive, with wrenching consequences for humanity. In The Marriage of Sense & Soul, one of today's most important philosophers brilliantly articulates how we might begin to think about science & religion in ways that allow for their reconciliation & union, on terms that will be acceptable to both camps. Wilber is widely acclaimed as the foremost thinker in integrating Western psychology & the Eastern spiritual traditions. His many books have reached across disciplines & synthesized the teachings of religion, psychology, physics, mysticism, sociology & anthropology, earning him a devoted international following. The Marriage of Sense & Soul is his most accessible work yet, aimed at guiding a general audience to the mutual accord between the spiritual, subjective world of ancient wisdom & the objective, empirical world of modern knowledge. Wilber clearly & succinctly explores the schism between science & religion, & the impact of this 'philosophical Cold War' on the fate of humanity. He systematically reviews previous attempts at integration, explaining why romantic, idealistic & postmodern theories failed. & he demonstrates how science is compatible with certain deep features common to all of the world's major religious traditions. In pointing the way to a union between truth & meaning, Wilber has created an elegant & accessible book that is breathtaking in its scope.
Kenneth Earl Wilber II is an American philosopher and writer on transpersonal psychology and his own integral theory, a systematic philosophy which suggests the synthesis of all human knowledge and experience.
I recommend this, especially if you haven't read Wilber before then it's a great introduction to integrative thinking. The first few chapters are especially helpful to understand the ways that people erroneously (and harmfully) talk about "revolutions" and "paradigm shifts" in narcissistic ways. It's worth picking up for the first three chapters alone.
At times he gets a bit more detailed in the argument than I need, but I understand that he needs to prove his point in detail for those who are less willing to make intellectual leaps or who want to argue against him.
This book explores the common foundations of scientific and religious world views. People of a philosophic bent will appreciate the book's attempt find harmony where there appears to be none. The book also encourages both sides to lighten up a little and be open to new ways of spiritual knowledge and validation.
Edit: reread and completely rejudged this book. Will write a review that accurately reflects my new opinion soon.
Almost a forgettable three-star, this book is salvaged by a trio of excellent chapters in the middle of the book exploring how and why previous efforts to find a way between science and religion have failed. His critiques boil down to saying that the Romantics mistook premodernity for transcendence of modernity simply because both are non-modernity, Idealism got things basically right but utterly failed to connect their insights to any meaningful spiritual transformative practice, and postmodernism has attempted to salvage the flux and flow of human life from the drudgery of ontological materialism by reducing culture to a valueless game played on the surface of reality rather than as a part of it. All three of these criticisms are spot on and do much to elevate what is otherwise a warmed-over combination of Huston Smith and William James, with neither man given the credit they deserve for the degree of influence they both undeniably exert. It may sound like I am minimizing Wilber's brilliance, and indeed I think the brilliance he displays in this book is minimal, but it's clear that this book was written to capitalize on a moment in the mid-90s zeitgeist. It accomplished its primary tasks of getting Wilber's foot in the door and establishing the necessity of developing Smith and James's thinking further, which Wilber does do in other books like A Theory of Everything, where he introduces AQAL theory, which amounts to a systematic exploration of the consequences of James's radical empiricism (which, as far as I know, Wilber still fails to give him credit for!).
I like the worldview/system he lays out, and buy the argument in general, but I found him rather repetitive in his argument, in that this could have been a much shorter book, as he restates the same thing several times, often in a row.
Or, conversely, it could have been less general, with more examples. As it was, it seems to lay a framework but not flesh it out too much, perhaps in later books he does.
stimulated a lot of discussion in our uu book group. wilber is smart and well read. his attempt to unite religion and science is doomed though, because he wants each to back off on its core believes. a lit of irritating new age language was annoying.
Ken Wilber wants to bridge the rift between science and spirituality, and uses an ingenious two-pronged strategy.
First, he establishes that both science and spirituality rely on a model of nested hierarchies--The Great Chain of Being--to describe their respective realities. This shared hierarchical model, Wilber argues, gives the two apparently dissociated realms a common theoretical ground.
Second, and more problematic, Wilber tries to reestablish the validity of interior modes of knowing within the framework of scientific observation.
By concentrating on interior modes of knowing, Wilber highlights that modern science deals in surfaces: things that can be seen and counted, with no regard for whether and how such things are qualitatively connected to our intellectual, emotional, and spiritual interiors as manifestations of, for example, Goodness and Truth.
With respect to interiors, Wilber makes a very convincing case that science cannot wholesale reject interior modes of knowing without subverting science itself. After all, doesn't science make use of such interior modes of knowing when it uses unobservable concepts like imaginary numbers and notions of probability? Are these no less “interior” than concepts of beauty and justice?
They are not, and so Wilber shows that that radical materialists have no leg to stand on when they try across the board to reject interior modes of knowing as invalid. After all, no person ever observed an imaginary number, but that hasn't stopped the effective use of imaginary numbers in the quest for scientific knowledge.
There is, however, a second aspect to interior modes of knowing, and this is where Wilber fails to carry his argument to its conclusion.
Wilber arrives at three common elements of the scientific method: following strict rules for observing things, making those observations according to those rules, and then submitting the observations to peer review. Wilber would like to say this method is perfectly applicable to the interior realm of the spirit, and so can “integrate” science and spirituality within the Great Chain of Being. Wilber's argument is flawed.
Yes, we can apply this observational method to things like quantum phenomena, and even Hamlet. We can all read Hamlet, we can make observations, and we can submit our observations for review. If we observe that Hamlet is a play about hunting rhino in Africa, then peer review will show that to be an invalid observation. Go back and read Hamlet again.
The problem is that individual spiritual experiences are not contained in a play--or in any context--that a third person can observe and then submit to peer review. Spiritual experiences are, by definition, cut off from all other observers but for the experiencing subject. What we observe of spiritual experiences is not the experience, i.e., the play of Hamlet. What we observe of spiritual experiences are hearsay accounts of the experiences by those who underwent them.
Wilber's Hamlet analogy doesn't work, unless you imagine discussing with your peers a play that only you have ever seen or read. In which case, we are now in the realm of discussing what can be experienced but never observed. The scientific method does not neatly cross over to the realm of spirit.
In spite of its shortcoming, Wilber's book is a brilliant attempt at synthesis, and should be read if for no other reason than his very clear and cogent analysis of the West's journey from the Enlightenment to Postmodernism. Although Wilber's argument ultimately fails, in my opinion there are so many important and profound insights along the way that one shouldn't mind if Wilber doesn't reach his ultimate goal.
It’s an interesting book with depth and a good structured. It will make you think. It does feel like an introduction to integral theory but tailored to atheists for them to open up to the religious. I really doubt most Catholics would even listen to the integration proposal though.
It is very coherent and at the very least it has a comprehensive view of modernity and postmodernism. It also does a great job explaining the inner dimensions and how we must look towards it.
Wilber's book is inspirational and graceful (albeit in a rather academic prose) in it's ability to point out the integration of science and religion. The "truce" between the two is a hard sell for doubters and with good reason - the majority of the population (of religious and scientific believers) will reject their respective duties to acknowledge each other -- and their own beliefs -- as true, but partial. Traditional religious believers will have to drop the strict dogma that contradicts proven scientific theories and scientific materialists must acknowledge the interior (spiritual) domains by broadening their narrow (sensory experience only) empiricism to include a direct experience in general (through the slow and tedious method of years of meditation to produce altered states) or acknowledge that they're doing it anyway with it's own conceptual operations from math to logic. After all, is the actual human experience of love, honor, morals any less real than a tree, a rock or a bird? Nevertheless, those that doubt Wilber's premise will likely condemn it's ability to realistically change and unite the people of these contrarian worldviews, but I think those people miss an important point. The point is that the cultural creatives and intellectuals first see the truth and wisdom that science and religion are not at odds with each other and after a tipping point occurs, they lead the rest of the world to slowly embrace the same. This point makes me hopeful and inspired -- his podcasts have implied this tipping point even though it's not mentioned in the book. I love Wilber's wisdom and sincerity and if one reads it with an open mind and can recognize Wilber's sincerity they will likely enjoy the book as well.
The book starts the following phrase: There is nothing that will cure the senses but the soul, and nothing that will cure the soul but the senses. #Oscar_Wilde Mr. Wilber said it very nicely: “There is arguably no more important and pressing topic than the relation of science and religion in the modern world.” He explains that science has given methods for discovering the truth, while the religion is the force that generates meaning. “The aim of this book is to suggest how we might begin to think about both science and religion in ways that allow their reconciliation and eventual integration, on terms acceptable to both parties.” Two great forces in the world: Science and Religion. You might have encountered some people even in our recent world, so educated but still they are very weak in their belief. A simple question as “how the universe was build up?” can be answered by most people “ Atom, the smallest constituent unit”, yes that’s correct but that Atom from where came? If you are a believer and follow a religion you would end up collaborating between that small element and its Creator. To reunite these two powers we need to understand what Science and Religion are! so not only our lives, also cultures will shape up and unity will shadow our world. It might be a very boring but very formative and positive book. Enjoy your reading.
Fascinating book that has really helped me pull together many threads of thought and understanding that were mulling about in my brain. I can see how Wilber may be controversial, and I can see how some of his points will offend some as well. But reading this book changes everything. Working through this book helps me bring coherence and consistency to ideas that were just beginning to coalesce.
Ken Wilbur has got to be one of the smartest authors that I've come across. While a good portion of this book was a bit over my head, I did come away with a good understanding of his major point. It is important for modern society and science to accept the reality of spirituality and this will not happen if science continues to categorize anything without hard evidence to support it as nonsence.
Strawman after ridiculous, unrealistic strawman fall before Wilbur's dull, self-referential blabbering. Science says there's no such thing as love (Kindle location 1024)? I suspect that no scientist has ever said that.
My first book by Ken Wilber, it was refreshing to see that other people have similar experiences to mine. Ken Wilber is an author with an amazingly complex view on the topic - and probably many topics.
This book was nothing but Wilber's mental masturbation. There is nothing I hate more than a self-righteous writer that never has a point, or an end, and just floats around in their own juices.
If unvalidated concepts can be sufficiently embedded in an impressively systematic conceptual edifice, many people (including the authors) can be stunned, charmed, or otherwise impressed to suspend disbelief. I've read and enjoyed many of Wilber's books. He presents numerous thought-provoking ideas, rigorously (obsessively?) systematized. In the end, his arguments fail to validate the magical elements of his systematic philosophy. In reading Wilber, I am wary of the intrusions of an unsubstantiated presumption of fundamental consciousness in the 'universe,' i.e., that conscious is ontologically prior to the material universe. I'm deeply skeptical regarding claims of any non-material essence or source, or of any effect in any real system, that is not dependent upon and mediated by physical structures and processes. His 'kosmos' concept fails to overcome the self-referential quagmire of magical thinking. That said, I do recommend the skeptic read Wilber's works for both their many shards of meaningful insights and to appreciate how the inescapable gravity well of magical thinking (and associated cognitive biases) plays out in the hands (mind) of a brilliant intellect and incisive systematizer.
I found Wilber’s project, in its eventual conception, highly contrived and heavily reliant on serial generalization. In my most annoyed moments of reaction, I have declared to myself (or sometimes to other people) that Wilber is Procrustean.
I give this particular book 3 stars however, because, in all fairness, he really does display brilliance at certain times, particularly in his more modest, less reductionist phases of the work. (It is not integration itself, in at least a more general sense, that I’m against; it is the presumptuousness and the strawmanning -- the almost caricaturish interpretations of sects of faith, the Enlightenment, and even science which Wilber’s writing extolls.)
OK, he's a nut, but like all of these guys who are a little smarter than their peers who have spent a little too much time alone he's gotta well developed world view that is actually sort of compelling. I liked a number of his ideas, but damn he likes the far more than he should. Not much humility of qualifying anything. He is closer to starting a religion than giving advice.
This is one of Ken Wilber's most effective books. It is both a good introduction to Wilber's work (while still adding something unique), and very coherent and well argued throughout. The subject it discusses and how it is related to different philosophical developments (containing great discriptions of modernism and post modernism etc.) is done in a great way.
I have read few books attempting to differentiate and integrate “Science & Religion” but failed totally. But this book made a decent attempt to convince....still The religion is more of inner and Science more of outer. Religion carries lot of myth and Science can be proved by anyone who follows the procedures. The science never integrates coz once science was slave to church and they never allowed the science in cherishing and declaring the universal truth. Hence the science is no way to integrate with religion. The author attempted the science and religions have to lose certain principle to integrate but that is not possible coz without Myth there is no religion. Hence it is failed. The author attempt in integrating was awesome. The four quadrants and explaining detailing about Left top for Religion and Right side for science and the topic like Romanticism, Idealism, Post-modernism was thoroughly discussed and how it failed integrating the science and religion. The chapter Reconciliation was good. The book was published in 1998 hence there was a scientific development in all department and attempt to compromise science and religions. Now science overtaken and religions are just followed. Superb book to read by travelling back in time otherwise it look more absurd to present situation.
So I'm giving 5 stars to this book for three reasons:
1) for the mind-bending arguments presenting here for integrating science and religion (which made me highlight lines and lines and lines of text, along with scribbling summaries, contradictions and "omg" on quite a number of pages),
2) because of its readability, for the book unfolds almost as a novel: you get the problem, then the presentation of the plausible solutions and then, finally, grandly, the solution and,
3) because I would actually give it 4,5 stars for how repetitive KW gets beyond the second half of the book, reminding the reader on every ocasion of what the 4 quadrants are, the 4 levels of the Great Chain of Being, the 3 Differentiations of Modernity and so forth, aswell as how slightly dogmatic he sounds at certain points when solemnly decreeing what religions must forsake in order to be accepted into modernity. The former reason, the repetitiveness does have the good side of making you remember the main topics of the book, but the second, the "this shall be like this" I cannot find any good reason to support. Granted, the arguments he presents here are very convincing, but to raise them as the way seems to me somewhat excessive. But, points 1) and 2) outweight point 3) (and also because ".5" should be rounded to the highest, nearest integral - get it? - number), so it keeps the 5 stars.
In any case, I strongly recommend reading "The marriage of sense and soul" to anyone curious about how science and religion/spirituality/mysticism could be combined in a satisfactory fashion, aswell as to all those who enjoyed reading "Embracing Mind" and "The Taboo fo Subjectivity" by Alan Wallace.
Le estoy dando 5 estrellas a este libro por tres razones:
1) Por los tremendos argumentos que aquí se presentan por la integración de la ciencia y la religión (que me han hecho subrayar líneas y líneas y líneas de texto, junto con garabatear resúmenes, contradicciones y "omg" en número bastante razonable de páginas",
2) por lo legible que es, ya que el libro se desarrolla casi como una novela: se te presenta el problema, después la presentación de las posibles soluciones y, finalmente, grandiosamente, la solución y
3) porque me gustaría darle 4,5 estrellas por lo repetitivo que KW se vuelve a partir de la segunda mitad del libro, recordando al lector en cada ocasión cuáles son los 4 cuadrantes, los 4 niveles de la Gran Cadena del Ser, las 3 Diferenciaciones de la Modernidad y demás, además por lo ligeramente dogmático que suena en ciertos puntos cuando decreta solemnemente que las religiones deben abandonar para poder ser aceptadas en la modernidad. La primera razón, lo repetitivo, tiene el lado bueno de que hace que recuerdes los puntos importantes del libro, pero al segundo, el "esto debe ser así", no le puedo encontrar ningún aspecto positivo. Por supuesto, los argumentos que KW presenta aquí son muy convincentes, pero proponerlos como la verdad me parece un tanto excesivo. Pero los puntos 1) y 2) pesan más que el punto 3) (y también porque ".5" debe ser redondeado hacia el número entero más próximo), así que se queda con sus 5 estrellas.
En cualquier caso, recomiendo enfáticamente leer "Ciencia y Religión. El matrimonio entre el alma y los sentidos" a cualquier persona con curiosidad sobre cómo la ciencia y la religión/espiritualidad/misticismo podrían ser combinados de manera satisfactoria, así como para todos aquellos que disfrutaron leyendo "La ciencia de la mente" y "The Taboo of Subjectivity"