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Tuyo #7
Tasmakat
It's a long way from the northern mountains back to the summer lands -- and all the challenges Aras left behind are waiting. Worse, no matter how Aras handles those problems, the summer king's judgment of his actions is certain to be harsh.
Released from every vow he ever swore to Aras, Ryo could remain among his own people. But he can't abandon Aras to confront his king alone -- especially as the struggle they endured in the land of the shades still haunts them both.
But, as they journey south, Ryo realizes that Aras may be losing control of his sorcery. Even if Ryo can persuade the summer king to judge Aras kindly, that may only be the beginning of the challenges they face. If Aras' strength of will fails, even Ugaro stubbornness may not be enough to prevent disaster ...
Released from every vow he ever swore to Aras, Ryo could remain among his own people. But he can't abandon Aras to confront his king alone -- especially as the struggle they endured in the land of the shades still haunts them both.
But, as they journey south, Ryo realizes that Aras may be losing control of his sorcery. Even if Ryo can persuade the summer king to judge Aras kindly, that may only be the beginning of the challenges they face. If Aras' strength of will fails, even Ugaro stubbornness may not be enough to prevent disaster ...
678 pages, Paperback
First published July 15, 2023
About the author
Rachel Neumeier
61 books594 followersRachel Neumeier started writing fiction to relax when she was a graduate student and needed a hobby unrelated to her research. Prior to selling her first fantasy novel, she had published only a few articles in venues such as The American Journal of Botany. However, finding that her interests did not lie in research, Rachel left academia and began to let her hobbies take over her life instead.
She now raises and shows dogs, gardens, cooks, and occasionally finds time to read. She works part-time for a tutoring program, though she tutors far more students in Math and Chemistry than in English Composition.
She now raises and shows dogs, gardens, cooks, and occasionally finds time to read. She works part-time for a tutoring program, though she tutors far more students in Math and Chemistry than in English Composition.
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January 15, 2024
3.5 stars
This was a strong conclusion to the Tuyo trilogy. A bit overlong at times, and then rushed at other times, and the whole first part should have been a third of the length it was. The third act especially was a strange mix of time jumps followed by lingering about. I did wonder at one point if Except Neumeier manages to not fumble the ball quite that badly. It is still overly optimistic? Hell, yes. But that's the flavor of this series as a whole and she stuck to it and made it good despite the odds.
I'm still not sure what to think of Darra, Ryo and Elaro and that whole situation. I guess I'm glad they found a way to make it work, but honestly girl, you made this so complicated for yourself, lol. Was all that really just so That was unnecessary and pretty cheesy. There was massive eye rolling happening during that. I can't say I care about Ryo's relationship woes all that much, and honestly Part 1 where they're figuring out how to make that whole dynamic work could have been cut out entirely if she'd just decided to , which would have left more room for Part 3 to breathe. Still, there were enough other things in Part 1 to hold my attention, chiefly, the ever evolving issue of Ryo's and Aras's friendship has always been the heart and soul of this series (the main trilogy, anyway) and I think this would've been a lot stronger if it had just focused on that instead.
Part 2 was when things really started to move towards the end and tensions started to build up. The red flags, y'all. I'm surprised by how much I ended up liking Kerren. I was confused though why Ryo
This is a good place to leave Ryo though, and I'm glad she's still planning future stories set in this world.
This was a strong conclusion to the Tuyo trilogy. A bit overlong at times, and then rushed at other times, and the whole first part should have been a third of the length it was. The third act especially was a strange mix of time jumps followed by lingering about. I did wonder at one point if Except Neumeier manages to not fumble the ball quite that badly. It is still overly optimistic? Hell, yes. But that's the flavor of this series as a whole and she stuck to it and made it good despite the odds.
I'm still not sure what to think of Darra, Ryo and Elaro and that whole situation. I guess I'm glad they found a way to make it work, but honestly girl, you made this so complicated for yourself, lol. Was all that really just so That was unnecessary and pretty cheesy. There was massive eye rolling happening during that. I can't say I care about Ryo's relationship woes all that much, and honestly Part 1 where they're figuring out how to make that whole dynamic work could have been cut out entirely if she'd just decided to , which would have left more room for Part 3 to breathe. Still, there were enough other things in Part 1 to hold my attention, chiefly, the ever evolving issue of Ryo's and Aras's friendship has always been the heart and soul of this series (the main trilogy, anyway) and I think this would've been a lot stronger if it had just focused on that instead.
Part 2 was when things really started to move towards the end and tensions started to build up. The red flags, y'all. I'm surprised by how much I ended up liking Kerren. I was confused though why Ryo
This is a good place to leave Ryo though, and I'm glad she's still planning future stories set in this world.
July 16, 2023
This is a wonderful conclusion to the Tuyo series: gripping, interesting (I love some of the new world-building), and in parts very moving. (I got a bit weepy in the beginning.) And the tension!! The suspense! A very satisfying conclusion to the series; and definitely a conclusion, with a resolution of the major arc, which feels right, although I am really looking forward to the other arcs and further stories promised in this world.
I have some serious thoughts about the ending, so treat the rest of this review with caution: major spoilers ahead. Read the book first, then come back! But if you want the spoiler free-summary, what follows is an extended comparison of the ending of this book to the ending of The Return of the King (JRR Tolkien) in which I conclude that this book does not accomplish the “back again” portion of the journey so well as Tolkien.
That I had to pick such a good book as the comparison to this one probably tells you all you need to know: I think this series is truly amazing, and a wonderful example of the kinds of things fantasy books can do that other genres struggle to accomplish. I would recommend the whole series to anyone who likes fantasy.
I have some serious thoughts about the ending, so treat the rest of this review with caution: major spoilers ahead. Read the book first, then come back! But if you want the spoiler free-summary, what follows is an extended comparison of the ending of this book to the ending of The Return of the King (JRR Tolkien) in which I conclude that this book does not accomplish the “back again” portion of the journey so well as Tolkien.
That I had to pick such a good book as the comparison to this one probably tells you all you need to know: I think this series is truly amazing, and a wonderful example of the kinds of things fantasy books can do that other genres struggle to accomplish. I would recommend the whole series to anyone who likes fantasy.
August 21, 2024
Tasmakat brings the original "Tuyo" series full circle. Ryo and his 'buddy' sorcerer have conquered the worst foe of the sorcery world in a land (of sand) ruled by lions with human heads and traits. Said rulers are surrounded by lessor sorcerers, but do not tell said 'lessors' that. Thus we have in Neumeier's world, the lands of sand, summer, winter, star-light and shade. As the land of shade is the land of the deceased, I myself may enter that land before Rachel Neumeier ever finishes authoring additional books of "Tuyo." The lady author has a good thing going.
Imaginative writing. Honor is key in Tuyo. Better than written laws.
I'll go next to yet another spin off from Tuyo since it is already published. And another after that also published. In for a penny, in for a pound.
Imaginative writing. Honor is key in Tuyo. Better than written laws.
I'll go next to yet another spin off from Tuyo since it is already published. And another after that also published. In for a penny, in for a pound.
May 6, 2026
4.5 stars
This novel is a direct sequel to Tarashana. We have heard sorcery referred to as a curse for many books now, and in this book we experience firsthand Aras’s mind and body slowly buckle under the weight of it. It’s a stepwise process to madness, and it was fascinating to witness it through Ryo’s perspective. He cares for his friend, but he is also the ultimate safeguard against him, and he also keeps his thoughts carefully guarded - from Aras and the reader both. It’s really a study in character, both emotionally and psychologically charged.
For all that this is one book with a focus on this specific topic, there were also three distinct parts. In the first one, Ryo struggles to reconcile his feelings around the proposed unorthodox marriage to Darra as they travel the winter lands. Very personal conflicts and considerations drive this part, and I enjoyed Ryo’s interactions with his prospective partners and the introspection.
The second part concerns the fate of young Kerras, who is to be judged alongside his family for attempted assassination. I would say the author used the trip through the summer lands to explore ethical questions - can one do wrong things for the right reason? Is there sometimes no right way forward? Is the price sometimes too high? How do gods judge mortals for those choices? We also meet Aras’s family, including his uncle the king. There were some great scenes there. I also enjoyed seeing more of the summer lands, since we have spent most of the series with the Ugaro.
The third part is the most wonderous and terrible part of the journey (although there was plenty of both before that). This is the part where the novel’s namesake becomes prominent, as the stakes for a land (possibly the world) become impossibly high due to an unforeseen threat. We get introduced to even more of this fascinating world… But it’s also where a major thread with Aras and Ryo resolves.
It was a lot, in many ways, so I’m glad we have plenty of space for aftermath/epilogue bits. I would say this book is truly a culmination of many things we have seen in this series before, and I’m happy where it landed for the most part. I do like the way the author doesn’t flinch back from people choosing evil as well as good in her world, but also writes a strong thread of karma through divine judgement.
This novel is a direct sequel to Tarashana. We have heard sorcery referred to as a curse for many books now, and in this book we experience firsthand Aras’s mind and body slowly buckle under the weight of it. It’s a stepwise process to madness, and it was fascinating to witness it through Ryo’s perspective. He cares for his friend, but he is also the ultimate safeguard against him, and he also keeps his thoughts carefully guarded - from Aras and the reader both. It’s really a study in character, both emotionally and psychologically charged.
For all that this is one book with a focus on this specific topic, there were also three distinct parts. In the first one, Ryo struggles to reconcile his feelings around the proposed unorthodox marriage to Darra as they travel the winter lands. Very personal conflicts and considerations drive this part, and I enjoyed Ryo’s interactions with his prospective partners and the introspection.
The second part concerns the fate of young Kerras, who is to be judged alongside his family for attempted assassination. I would say the author used the trip through the summer lands to explore ethical questions - can one do wrong things for the right reason? Is there sometimes no right way forward? Is the price sometimes too high? How do gods judge mortals for those choices? We also meet Aras’s family, including his uncle the king. There were some great scenes there. I also enjoyed seeing more of the summer lands, since we have spent most of the series with the Ugaro.
The third part is the most wonderous and terrible part of the journey (although there was plenty of both before that). This is the part where the novel’s namesake becomes prominent, as the stakes for a land (possibly the world) become impossibly high due to an unforeseen threat. We get introduced to even more of this fascinating world… But it’s also where a major thread with Aras and Ryo resolves.
It was a lot, in many ways, so I’m glad we have plenty of space for aftermath/epilogue bits. I would say this book is truly a culmination of many things we have seen in this series before, and I’m happy where it landed for the most part. I do like the way the author doesn’t flinch back from people choosing evil as well as good in her world, but also writes a strong thread of karma through divine judgement.
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December 4, 2023Did not finish due to polygamy themes. This isn't a spoiler as it was brought up slightly at the end of Tarashana, but it was delved into a great deal more here in a way that didn't feel true to the character's knowledge and feelings. Anyway ... just in case this is helpful to any potential readers, I wanted to have it here.
July 29, 2023
Just, so incredible
At no point in this book could i have possibly predicted anything that happened, and yet it all happened perfectly in what felt exactly the right way.
I’m honestly amazed at how every one of these books i think can’t possibly be as good as the last one, and then it blows my mind.
An absolute work of art, and at its core and incredibly healing story about love and friendship.
At no point in this book could i have possibly predicted anything that happened, and yet it all happened perfectly in what felt exactly the right way.
I’m honestly amazed at how every one of these books i think can’t possibly be as good as the last one, and then it blows my mind.
An absolute work of art, and at its core and incredibly healing story about love and friendship.
September 30, 2023
As of this review, Tasmakat is the last Tuyo book, although Rachel Neumeier plans to release more. It is also the last part of the initial story arc from Ryo’s perspective, which also included the original Tuyo and Tarashana. As such, it’s something of a natural endpoint for the series, at least for now.
I will be forever grateful to the mystery person who suggested Tuyo for my book club. We ended up not putting on the list, but I still made note and eventually read it out of curiosity. These books are not perfect, nor are they for everyone. They’re quite slow-paced, they will not appeal to certain types of readers, and Tasmakat in particular is LONG. (Side rant that is solely about ebook technology, not this book at all: ebooks really need to get better about showing an accurate page count. Tasmakat showed up on my Kindle as 543 pages, but even reading at a normal page size it was at least 850. I need to be able to pace myself when I read! A goal of 100 pages a day only works if I have something accurate to count against! Rant over.)
But I am so, so glad I read these, and will continue to read them as more are published. Fantasy is a genre filled with idea-borrowing and lookalike stories, but the Tuyo series is genuinely unlike anything I have read before. It’s not entirely unique (nothing in fantasy is or can be at this point) but it is so, SO refreshing to read something different, something with a world that isn’t just “real-world culture but with magic” or characters that aren’t just “will-they-or-won’t-they-but-we-all-know-they-will.”
Tasmakat continues and concludes Ryo and Aras’s story after the events of Tarashana. The story is split into three parts, and honestly, with the length of the book it almost feels like three books in one. Each part has a distinct focus, both in terms of the area of the world they are traveling in and the specific plot conflict to be resolved. Part 1: Will Ryo be able to work it out with Darra and Elaro after Darra has declared her desire to marry them both? Part 2: What will the summer king decide with respect to Aras, now that some of the earliest signs of sorcerous madness have started to come upon him? Part 3: Will the Lakasha be able to break the tie between Ryo and Aras—no, just kidding, COMPLETELY waylaid by another plot at the last second! I joke, but honestly I was glad about the part 3 twist. It’s what drove the story to its final and extremely satisfying conclusion.
I will personally always prefer time spent in the winter country, but it was fascinating to get such a close look at the country of sand, with its two nonhuman peoples (the Lakasha and the Ro) and its complicated social structures. I would love to learn much more about how that part of the world works. It was also great to see so much more of the summer country, especially the capital, Avaras. Aras’s daughter Selili and granddaughter Tathimi were a delight, and the Peacock Desert a beautiful and fascinating place.
Ryo and Aras and their relationship is again the driving force of the story—again, SO REFRESHING to read something where the focus is friendship rather than romance! Even when they’re at odds, these two have come through so much together that they will always respect and listen to each other. The ultimate climax of the book was heartbreaking but completely earned—and then the resolution of that climax utterly beautiful. Even if we never get another book from Ryo’s perspective, I have no doubt that he will continue to be a major force for good in this world. He had an excellent teacher, after all.
I will be forever grateful to the mystery person who suggested Tuyo for my book club. We ended up not putting on the list, but I still made note and eventually read it out of curiosity. These books are not perfect, nor are they for everyone. They’re quite slow-paced, they will not appeal to certain types of readers, and Tasmakat in particular is LONG. (Side rant that is solely about ebook technology, not this book at all: ebooks really need to get better about showing an accurate page count. Tasmakat showed up on my Kindle as 543 pages, but even reading at a normal page size it was at least 850. I need to be able to pace myself when I read! A goal of 100 pages a day only works if I have something accurate to count against! Rant over.)
But I am so, so glad I read these, and will continue to read them as more are published. Fantasy is a genre filled with idea-borrowing and lookalike stories, but the Tuyo series is genuinely unlike anything I have read before. It’s not entirely unique (nothing in fantasy is or can be at this point) but it is so, SO refreshing to read something different, something with a world that isn’t just “real-world culture but with magic” or characters that aren’t just “will-they-or-won’t-they-but-we-all-know-they-will.”
Tasmakat continues and concludes Ryo and Aras’s story after the events of Tarashana. The story is split into three parts, and honestly, with the length of the book it almost feels like three books in one. Each part has a distinct focus, both in terms of the area of the world they are traveling in and the specific plot conflict to be resolved. Part 1: Will Ryo be able to work it out with Darra and Elaro after Darra has declared her desire to marry them both? Part 2: What will the summer king decide with respect to Aras, now that some of the earliest signs of sorcerous madness have started to come upon him? Part 3: Will the Lakasha be able to break the tie between Ryo and Aras—no, just kidding, COMPLETELY waylaid by another plot at the last second! I joke, but honestly I was glad about the part 3 twist. It’s what drove the story to its final and extremely satisfying conclusion.
I will personally always prefer time spent in the winter country, but it was fascinating to get such a close look at the country of sand, with its two nonhuman peoples (the Lakasha and the Ro) and its complicated social structures. I would love to learn much more about how that part of the world works. It was also great to see so much more of the summer country, especially the capital, Avaras. Aras’s daughter Selili and granddaughter Tathimi were a delight, and the Peacock Desert a beautiful and fascinating place.
Ryo and Aras and their relationship is again the driving force of the story—again, SO REFRESHING to read something where the focus is friendship rather than romance! Even when they’re at odds, these two have come through so much together that they will always respect and listen to each other. The ultimate climax of the book was heartbreaking but completely earned—and then the resolution of that climax utterly beautiful. Even if we never get another book from Ryo’s perspective, I have no doubt that he will continue to be a major force for good in this world. He had an excellent teacher, after all.
August 11, 2024
Book 1 Aras: I do hope this sorcerer isn't going to be too difficult to deal with. They often are, you know.
Book 3 Aras: Another evil sorcerer, you say? I can't WAIT to CRUSH him under my heel and make him WISH HE'D NEVER BEEN BORN. I'm going to DRAG HIS WORLD DOWN AROUND HIS EARS. *ahem* ...For the greater good, of course.
Okay. With the greatest and most respectful restraint, I have to say that I am JUMPING UP AND DOWN AND SCREAMING. This book was an extremely long, epic journey to hell and back. I had chores to do today, and I did exactly none of them because I could not countenance putting this book down for that long.
This is definitely a long travelogue book. They are traveling the ENTIRE time, without exaggeration. There are three distinct phases: 1) Journey to the Summer Country, 2) Journey to the Summer King's Reckoning, and 3) Journey to the Land of the Jackal-Headed People and People-Headed Lions.
We pick up immediately after the end of book two, with Ryo, Aras, and the whole crew traveling back to the Summer Country after their extremely long and arduous sojourn. So many questions remain. Can Ryo come to grips with the weird polygamy situation he's entered into? Is Aras' newfound difficulty controlling himself getting worse? Of course, there are many small and large dangers and adventures they face before they even get within sight of the river. I was riveted the whole time, naturally. I'm not going to lie - I don't enjoy the weird polygamy situation, and it took up a lot of emotional and narrative space in this part of the book.
Once they make it to the Summer Country, though, things really started kicking off. Some highlights:
Anyway. I love this series with my entire whole heart. I love this book. I love Aras and Ryo and the worldbuilding and the intricate dilemmas of morality and honor and the trust and loyalty everyone has for everyone else and Aras' descent into evil and his redemption and EVERYTHING else. This whole thing was a ride, and I adored every bit of it.
Book 3 Aras: Another evil sorcerer, you say? I can't WAIT to CRUSH him under my heel and make him WISH HE'D NEVER BEEN BORN. I'm going to DRAG HIS WORLD DOWN AROUND HIS EARS. *ahem* ...For the greater good, of course.
Okay. With the greatest and most respectful restraint, I have to say that I am JUMPING UP AND DOWN AND SCREAMING. This book was an extremely long, epic journey to hell and back. I had chores to do today, and I did exactly none of them because I could not countenance putting this book down for that long.
This is definitely a long travelogue book. They are traveling the ENTIRE time, without exaggeration. There are three distinct phases: 1) Journey to the Summer Country, 2) Journey to the Summer King's Reckoning, and 3) Journey to the Land of the Jackal-Headed People and People-Headed Lions.
We pick up immediately after the end of book two, with Ryo, Aras, and the whole crew traveling back to the Summer Country after their extremely long and arduous sojourn. So many questions remain. Can Ryo come to grips with the weird polygamy situation he's entered into? Is Aras' newfound difficulty controlling himself getting worse? Of course, there are many small and large dangers and adventures they face before they even get within sight of the river. I was riveted the whole time, naturally. I'm not going to lie - I don't enjoy the weird polygamy situation, and it took up a lot of emotional and narrative space in this part of the book.
Once they make it to the Summer Country, though, things really started kicking off. Some highlights:
• I was RABID to know how it Aras' justice against the attempted assassination from last book was going to go. Frankly, I did NOT expect how it went? Gratifying. Deeply concerning. Both at the same time.
• Kerren was a good character. He got better and better as the story went on.
• WE GOT TO MEET ARAS' FAMILY!!!!!!!!!!!! I would have liked, frankly, to spend a LOT more time with them than we did, but what we got was quite enjoyable. I clocked his granddaughter the MINUTE she said, "Don't be sad!" What a terrifying, heart-wrenching set of circumstances. This subplot had me on tenterhooks the entire time.
• This is redundant because by now we all know the entire series is about this but. THE LOYALTY DYNAMICS. They remain ABSOLUTELY UNMATCHED. Everyone has some sort of complex tangle of deep honor and loyalty they're striving to satisfy, and it's incredible. I was FEASTING.
• Lots more worldbuilding was added. It's interesting we hadn't heard anything about day-astrology in the previous books, but it became so significant here. It was also interesting to hear what the Jackal People had to say about the origin of sorcery.
• There is absolutely a high-pitched violin note of sustained tension rising in the background the whole time, when it comes to Aras' slowly yet inexorably progressing descent into megalomania. Each time he wanted to do something, or did something, and Ryo pulled him up on it and in all wide-eyed sincerity he argued, "I really don't think this will cause harm, Ryo." Well. I was biting my nails. By the time they dealt with the Peacock Desert issue, WELL. The writing was pretty clearly on the wall. I was horrified and scared but I also loved it. Even the gradually-progressing changes of his speech patterns that Ryo made note of... THE TENSION.
• I WAS SO. INVESTED. in the Summer King's reckoning. And it delivered. I loved seeing their family dynamic there, as well, with the king and the prince and Aras and Commander Samaura all being relatives and caring about one another, but also bound so strictly to their greater responsibilities.
• Aras voluntarily taking the sleeping potion over and over throughout his life, never knowing if this is the one time he's not going to wake up from it... Upsetting.
• I still have less than no idea what the People-Headed Lions actually look like, and I'm not sure I want to. A weirdly small human head affixed to a massive lion body with zero neck? A weirdly huge human head with a freakishly large neck? They still have manes, so is the human head just like, planted in the center of the mane like the middle part of a sunflower? Creepy. I just started imagining them as complete, sentient lions after a while because it was less distracting.
• Also, is it just me or are the People-Headed Lions kind of OP? Like, they CREATED the Jackal People? They had the power to grant sorcery in the first place? They can teleport, terraform and so on and so forth? Each people does have their own special abilities, but this seems to just make the People-Headed Lions basically demigods.
• Aras whenever he gets to be a part of a happy surprise: >:D
• The climax... I would say "the ending" but in classic Tuyo Series fashion, it's not the ending since there's a decently long "and back again" portion. THE CLIMAX...
• The extent to which literal divine intervention happens in these books is very interesting. I'm not mad about it, though. It never does seem to make anything feel cheapened.
• THE ENDING... I honestly can't be too upset about the People-Headed Lions teleportation, because I didn't want to have to painstakingly travel by horse all the way back. And the ending was so sweet. I loved all the reunions. I'm not sure how I felt about the realistic nature of the monarchs' council's final ruling on Aras, but I'm sure it was what the Summer King would have WANTED to do, so you know what? Maybe so.
• Ryo: "With us." Aras: "...With us." 🥺 I hollered. I hollered for so long. Some say I am still out there hollering, to this very day.
Anyway. I love this series with my entire whole heart. I love this book. I love Aras and Ryo and the worldbuilding and the intricate dilemmas of morality and honor and the trust and loyalty everyone has for everyone else and Aras' descent into evil and his redemption and EVERYTHING else. This whole thing was a ride, and I adored every bit of it.
August 10, 2023
Satisfying close to the main "Ryo & Aras" arc (books 1, 3, 7 - Tuyo, Tarashana, Takasmat). Yes, this book was an epic road-trip, but I am more than happy to travel along with these two, exploring interpersonal relationships and cultural differences, so it worked for me.
If you're looking for a detailed world-build without heavy info-dumping, and flawed characters who are able to grow as you read, I'd definitely recommend this series!
In my view, it's not essential to read the side books, or you could come back to them later -- there are some plot references in the 'main' books, but you won't feel like you "missed something big" if you skip Nikoles (prequel), Keraunani, Suelen, and Tano. Though, book 6 looks like being the start of a new arc with Tano as the MC, and I enjoyed that story too, so.
Brilliant series, looking forward to more!
If you're looking for a detailed world-build without heavy info-dumping, and flawed characters who are able to grow as you read, I'd definitely recommend this series!
In my view, it's not essential to read the side books, or you could come back to them later -- there are some plot references in the 'main' books, but you won't feel like you "missed something big" if you skip Nikoles (prequel), Keraunani, Suelen, and Tano. Though, book 6 looks like being the start of a new arc with Tano as the MC, and I enjoyed that story too, so.
Brilliant series, looking forward to more!
July 18, 2023
I adore this series and I’d die for Ryo inGara.
March 11, 2026
3.5
I thought this conclusion to Ryo's POV did some things well, but also did some things badly. Do I think it's worth reading for fans of the series, yes. I lost sleep trying to finish it. I loved parts of it, but it just didnt finish out the story in a way that felt satisfying.
this is a spoilery rant for which I'm sorry.
My mindset coming into this book was this: Ryo may forgive Aras, but I certainly dont. In fact, I was getting kind of tired of him solving everything with sorcery and having no consequences for it.
You may be able to see right away why I didnt enjoy this story as much as I might have.
The plot line is completely about Aras's sorcery and him settling things with it. In fact, this put all other problems, and even Ryo as a character, into a back seat.
The story also introduces another character's problem: Kerren
and my gosh, was it a loud problem.
I COULD NOT stop wondering "where is Kerren?" "what does he think about this?" "what horrible things happened to him?"
It made me wonder why Ryo kept forgetting that Kerren was there, because I certainly couldn't.
And of course, Aras's treatment of him was side-lined as well. I thought that if he was in his right mind, he would not have enthralled him. Ever.
This made the first part of the story engaging, and even some of the later parts, but we barely get two words out of him the whole story, and we have no clue where his mindset is really at. It all made it hard to engage with the main story for me. I almost didn't care about Aras's problem at all, except for how it affected Ryo.
the last battle was good, it brought some important moments between Aras and Ryo that only felt a little wasted by events after. I felt like Ryo was finally important to the story for a while. but I think the story would have gone better if it HAD been smaller.
and I appreciate a long conclusion. I'm glad we got to see how most of the other characters are doing. Also, the two's shared deturmination to take care of Kerren was touching, even if I feel like neither is quite the right fit for the job.
but the end just reverses ALL the consequences for Aras. Again. And yes, I still think Ryo needs to push his face in the mud. thank you.
I thought this conclusion to Ryo's POV did some things well, but also did some things badly. Do I think it's worth reading for fans of the series, yes. I lost sleep trying to finish it. I loved parts of it, but it just didnt finish out the story in a way that felt satisfying.
this is a spoilery rant for which I'm sorry.
My mindset coming into this book was this: Ryo may forgive Aras, but I certainly dont. In fact, I was getting kind of tired of him solving everything with sorcery and having no consequences for it.
You may be able to see right away why I didnt enjoy this story as much as I might have.
The plot line is completely about Aras's sorcery and him settling things with it. In fact, this put all other problems, and even Ryo as a character, into a back seat.
The story also introduces another character's problem: Kerren
and my gosh, was it a loud problem.
I COULD NOT stop wondering "where is Kerren?" "what does he think about this?" "what horrible things happened to him?"
It made me wonder why Ryo kept forgetting that Kerren was there, because I certainly couldn't.
And of course, Aras's treatment of him was side-lined as well. I thought that if he was in his right mind, he would not have enthralled him. Ever.
This made the first part of the story engaging, and even some of the later parts, but we barely get two words out of him the whole story, and we have no clue where his mindset is really at. It all made it hard to engage with the main story for me. I almost didn't care about Aras's problem at all, except for how it affected Ryo.
the last battle was good, it brought some important moments between Aras and Ryo that only felt a little wasted by events after. I felt like Ryo was finally important to the story for a while. but I think the story would have gone better if it HAD been smaller.
and I appreciate a long conclusion. I'm glad we got to see how most of the other characters are doing. Also, the two's shared deturmination to take care of Kerren was touching, even if I feel like neither is quite the right fit for the job.
but the end just reverses ALL the consequences for Aras. Again. And yes, I still think Ryo needs to push his face in the mud. thank you.
This entire review has been hidden because of spoilers.
July 27, 2023
WOW.
The first third or so got a little slow at times to be honest, especially the bits with Darra and Elaro. I wasn't particularly interested in them at the end of Tarashana (in fact, I barely remember Elaro) so I wasn't rooting for them and was pretty glad to see the back of them. I'm not totally convinced their plot line was relevant or useful.
But after that first third it picked up fast. The next third was BEAUTIFUL. As usual, Tasmakat has the most gorgeous writing style and the locations we visited in this book were incredible. Ryo continues to be an all-time favourite character, his brutal honesty and straightforward dialogue is great to read and at times pretty funny. His interactions with other characters are still the highlight, and the focus on this book was very much the stabilising influence he has on Aras.
Aras is also a great character, and we got a lot of character development that had been foreshadowed in previous books. It's definitely a very character driven book, and if you already enjoy the series for these two then there's no doubt you'll enjoy this one too (just don't be intimidated by the size of this novel, it's absolutely worth it for the last third).
Also love the designs of the different people/races and the culture/mythology that is extended a lot more. It had been mentioned previously but this is the first time we get to see it first hand and I'm loving it. The more books released from this series, the more I feel the immense amount of care that was put into building this world and connecting each story line.
Absolutely the best series I've ever read, and I'm so happy to see more books being planned for!! Although I will miss reading from Ryo's pov. 5* because despite feeling a little underwhelmed at the beginning, it'd be a crime to rate the rest of the book any lower.
Previous review, made at page 266:
The arrival in Sigaranra is divine!! It's been so long since I last read a book that fits this scene, a grand return of an army after a battle. I absolutely adore it. I had been tiring fast of Ryo's plotline with Darra and Elaro (Kerren's story is excellent though which made up for it) so I'm happy to be moving on.
The first third or so got a little slow at times to be honest, especially the bits with Darra and Elaro. I wasn't particularly interested in them at the end of Tarashana (in fact, I barely remember Elaro) so I wasn't rooting for them and was pretty glad to see the back of them. I'm not totally convinced their plot line was relevant or useful.
But after that first third it picked up fast. The next third was BEAUTIFUL. As usual, Tasmakat has the most gorgeous writing style and the locations we visited in this book were incredible. Ryo continues to be an all-time favourite character, his brutal honesty and straightforward dialogue is great to read and at times pretty funny. His interactions with other characters are still the highlight, and the focus on this book was very much the stabilising influence he has on Aras.
Aras is also a great character, and we got a lot of character development that had been foreshadowed in previous books. It's definitely a very character driven book, and if you already enjoy the series for these two then there's no doubt you'll enjoy this one too (just don't be intimidated by the size of this novel, it's absolutely worth it for the last third).
Also love the designs of the different people/races and the culture/mythology that is extended a lot more. It had been mentioned previously but this is the first time we get to see it first hand and I'm loving it. The more books released from this series, the more I feel the immense amount of care that was put into building this world and connecting each story line.
Absolutely the best series I've ever read, and I'm so happy to see more books being planned for!! Although I will miss reading from Ryo's pov. 5* because despite feeling a little underwhelmed at the beginning, it'd be a crime to rate the rest of the book any lower.
Previous review, made at page 266:
The arrival in Sigaranra is divine!! It's been so long since I last read a book that fits this scene, a grand return of an army after a battle. I absolutely adore it. I had been tiring fast of Ryo's plotline with Darra and Elaro (Kerren's story is excellent though which made up for it) so I'm happy to be moving on.
July 24, 2026
When we ask the gods to be merciful, we have no idea what we’re asking. [p. 469]
After the events of Tarashana, Aras and Ryo travel back to the summer lands -- via a wedding -- and to the king's judgment. Aras seems sanguine on the long journey from the winter lands (a journey which I now realise comprises more than half of the novel) but there's a strong possibility that the king will have him executed.
Instead, he sends Aras and Ryo to the Land of Two Suns, ruled by the Ro-Antalet (sphinxes), where the envoy Tasmakat (a jackal-headed woman) has suggested there might be an adept who can lighten the sorcerous madness that is beginning to afflict Aras, and break the bond -- the 'leash', as the Ugaro call it -- between Aras and Ryo.
Of course it is not that simple.
This novel is packed with thorny issues of loyalty, honour and mercy. Ryo is strong and stubborn, but can he prevail against madness? He has to contend with false memories and guard his mind (though he's already proved he can mask his thoughts): he's sorcerously altered to withstand the tremendous heat of the Two Suns ... and all the while he worries about what's happening in the winter lands, what's happening with his wife and her other husband.
Intensely emotional, sometimes very dark, sometimes unevenly paced: the climax of this novel is a triumph, and the finale hopeful. I enjoyed it very much despite sometimes wearying of the interminable journeying. And I'm keen to read more of the novels set in this world -- though perhaps not quite yet.
Read because: This concludes the Ryo-centric trilogy that started with Tuyo and continued with Tarashana -- I wanted to follow that story to its conclusion, especially while the events of the previous two books were still fresh in my mind.
August 19, 2026
This book had me sweating! I could not put it down, and I literally skipped sleeping two nights in a row so I could finish it (yes, I'm very tired right now). I went straight from Ryo's second book straight into this one, because the residual tension that lingered between Ryo and Aras demanded my attention... Well, we certainly had it here! I'm always scared to see how a new (to me) author will write endings, and I'm pleased to say this did NOT disappoint.
Aras ended up being my favorite character in the series, because I love the more selfless, honorable king-type characters, especially when they're older and have a younger guy under their wing (father/son type stuff is my jam). So watching Aras have the most incredible character arc in this book just felt so dang satisfying. I clenched my teeth, I screamed, I cried, I wanted to shake all of the characters and yell at them and I HAD STRONG EMOTIONS.
And, thankfully, the bond between Ryo and Aras did not disappoint me. I love the father/son, or brotherly, dynamic that developed between them through the series, and this was just the perfect conclusion for them. I honestly couldn't have imagined anything better. 100% this is everything that I'd hoped for, and I can so easily say that this might be my favorite book trilogy (the three books with Ryo POV) of all time. I legit love it so much, it hits all the things I want and love, and I couldn't be happier.
Started with the Kindle versions, but grabbing paperbacks or hardcovers to sit happily on my shelf, where only the best of the best of the best will ever go. Also, I'm going to read it again. Like, right now. And I'm going to slow down, because I read WAY too fast to get to the character stuff first and foremost (and I needed to see the ending BAD). Now that I have that, I'm going back for more of the lore/worldbuilding, which is PHENOMENAL.
Awesome, awesome book series, y'all.
Aras ended up being my favorite character in the series, because I love the more selfless, honorable king-type characters, especially when they're older and have a younger guy under their wing (father/son type stuff is my jam). So watching Aras have the most incredible character arc in this book just felt so dang satisfying. I clenched my teeth, I screamed, I cried, I wanted to shake all of the characters and yell at them and I HAD STRONG EMOTIONS.
And, thankfully, the bond between Ryo and Aras did not disappoint me. I love the father/son, or brotherly, dynamic that developed between them through the series, and this was just the perfect conclusion for them. I honestly couldn't have imagined anything better. 100% this is everything that I'd hoped for, and I can so easily say that this might be my favorite book trilogy (the three books with Ryo POV) of all time. I legit love it so much, it hits all the things I want and love, and I couldn't be happier.
Started with the Kindle versions, but grabbing paperbacks or hardcovers to sit happily on my shelf, where only the best of the best of the best will ever go. Also, I'm going to read it again. Like, right now. And I'm going to slow down, because I read WAY too fast to get to the character stuff first and foremost (and I needed to see the ending BAD). Now that I have that, I'm going back for more of the lore/worldbuilding, which is PHENOMENAL.
Awesome, awesome book series, y'all.
July 22, 2023
I really enjoyed this book. Mostly, it’s a great bromance. there’s a lot of mirroring of both characters and situations making similar choices in thoughtful ways. The ending is great emotionally even if the twist was really predictable.
Mild Spoilers-
The book feels disjointed. There’s a long section on relationships in the beginning unrelated to what comes next. Then there’s a fight scene and we never learn who is the bad guy who orchestrated it. Then there’s another large fight, only for us to hear rumors of another problem that doesn’t get resolved.
In all the books, the deux ex machina is some intervention from the gods. It’s very moving but also l becomes predictable after a while. Actually, the whole storyline is repetitive. Not necessarily bad, I like their adventures. But I had hoped for a little more magic system building, or some greater understanding of the system that links north to south. Something the characters can use and figure out without the divine intervention, a la Spirit Ring by Lois McMaster Bujold.
The language is often repetitive too - the linguistic quirks of the Ugaro “I can think of three different ways this is a problem” can become a little tiring. More than that, sometimes other characters spoke that way. It starts to feel like it’s the only voice the author can write with. I don’t think that’s true, but, she’s not careful to keep character voices distinct.
This is a minor issue but at the end I found the use of the word “thriving” for babies doing well very modern. That’s hospital language in the U.S. Also, the idea that sleeping in a tent at the end is so lovely and relaxing was hard to swallow - with a mom who is so tired she can’t even stay awake for her husband’s dramatic story, and where newborns will wake up every two hours to eat! They do not mention helping. I do like that difficulties with newborns is part of the story.
Mild Spoilers-
The book feels disjointed. There’s a long section on relationships in the beginning unrelated to what comes next. Then there’s a fight scene and we never learn who is the bad guy who orchestrated it. Then there’s another large fight, only for us to hear rumors of another problem that doesn’t get resolved.
In all the books, the deux ex machina is some intervention from the gods. It’s very moving but also l becomes predictable after a while. Actually, the whole storyline is repetitive. Not necessarily bad, I like their adventures. But I had hoped for a little more magic system building, or some greater understanding of the system that links north to south. Something the characters can use and figure out without the divine intervention, a la Spirit Ring by Lois McMaster Bujold.
The language is often repetitive too - the linguistic quirks of the Ugaro “I can think of three different ways this is a problem” can become a little tiring. More than that, sometimes other characters spoke that way. It starts to feel like it’s the only voice the author can write with. I don’t think that’s true, but, she’s not careful to keep character voices distinct.
This is a minor issue but at the end I found the use of the word “thriving” for babies doing well very modern. That’s hospital language in the U.S. Also, the idea that sleeping in a tent at the end is so lovely and relaxing was hard to swallow - with a mom who is so tired she can’t even stay awake for her husband’s dramatic story, and where newborns will wake up every two hours to eat! They do not mention helping. I do like that difficulties with newborns is part of the story.
This entire review has been hidden because of spoilers.
August 3, 2023
This book, number seven in the Tuyo series, caused me to become very upset multiple times. For at least three reasons, as Ryo tends to say. Since I don't want to ruin anything for anyone, I won't say what was so upsetting. This is a very large book. It weighs in at close to a thousand pages.
The story takes place from the mountains and steppes of the Winter lands down to the extreme desert homeland of Tasmakat. If at first the plot seems to meander, my advice is to stick with it; everything's going to make sense in the end.
There were a few negatives. Ryo's marriage, for one. It just didn't seem to mesh with his character's personality and moral stance. Another thing I wasn't crazy about had to do with these two new lands. Or more specifically, the characters' names from these kingdoms. They were both difficult to pronounce and to differentiate. I finally stopped trying to figure out the suffix meanings and just went with the flow. Once the story was back in the Summer and Winter lands I was happier. I have truly loved the interactions between the Lau and Ugaro peoples, and I really missed that aspect.
The ending- while complete- seems to allow some wiggle room for more stories in the series. I really hope so. Ryo, Aras, Lalani, Geras, Suyet, Esau and the rest have been such likeable characters!
The story takes place from the mountains and steppes of the Winter lands down to the extreme desert homeland of Tasmakat. If at first the plot seems to meander, my advice is to stick with it; everything's going to make sense in the end.
There were a few negatives. Ryo's marriage, for one. It just didn't seem to mesh with his character's personality and moral stance. Another thing I wasn't crazy about had to do with these two new lands. Or more specifically, the characters' names from these kingdoms. They were both difficult to pronounce and to differentiate. I finally stopped trying to figure out the suffix meanings and just went with the flow. Once the story was back in the Summer and Winter lands I was happier. I have truly loved the interactions between the Lau and Ugaro peoples, and I really missed that aspect.
The ending- while complete- seems to allow some wiggle room for more stories in the series. I really hope so. Ryo, Aras, Lalani, Geras, Suyet, Esau and the rest have been such likeable characters!
November 4, 2025
This is a very long book, basically three and a half novels in one. I loved the first three novels, I didn't love but still enjoyed the last half novel.
It's pretty clear early on what the structure of this book will be (especially if you note the section title in the table of contents, or take a glance at the cover). Ryo will accompany Aras through the winter lands to the border, then through the summer lands to the capital to receive his king's judgment, then to the lands of fire to deal with a problem there. Even moreso than the previous books, though told from Ryo's perspective, the main character and protagonist is Aras, and the main plot thread is Aras's struggle with his curse. Of course, within that broad outline there are tons of surprises, side plots, minor character arcs, this book is packed full of stuff, all of it really good.
I will say that I didn't love the ending. I think this book could've ended at Chapter 42 and maybe a bit more, and I would've liked it better. Instead, it goes on for another 150 pages. I don't think that last bit is bad, clearly the author had different ideas about how her story should go than I did, and probably most people will prefer it this way.
It's pretty clear early on what the structure of this book will be (especially if you note the section title in the table of contents, or take a glance at the cover). Ryo will accompany Aras through the winter lands to the border, then through the summer lands to the capital to receive his king's judgment, then to the lands of fire to deal with a problem there. Even moreso than the previous books, though told from Ryo's perspective, the main character and protagonist is Aras, and the main plot thread is Aras's struggle with his curse. Of course, within that broad outline there are tons of surprises, side plots, minor character arcs, this book is packed full of stuff, all of it really good.
I will say that I didn't love the ending. I think this book could've ended at Chapter 42 and maybe a bit more, and I would've liked it better. Instead, it goes on for another 150 pages. I don't think that last bit is bad, clearly the author had different ideas about how her story should go than I did, and probably most people will prefer it this way.
January 10, 2024
A moderately satisfying end to the series. But boy oh boy was the pacing bad! We don’t even meet Tasmakat and barely even hear about her or her people until 3/4 of the way through, at which point the pace becomes frenetic.
I do appreciate that RM took the pitfall that so many fantasy writers fall into, where they give their protagonist magic powers, and then the series goes on and the character has to do more and more dramatic things with those powers, and pretty soon they are blithely crossing moral event horizons but it’s fine because it’s for good reasons (Lois McMaster Bujold’s Penric books, I’m looking at you) and made that explicitly the central conflict: Aras descends into corruption slowly, but steadily, and it’s quite affecting. The exploration of power and coercion and the abnegation of one’s will (magical and non-magical) continues to be interesting. The romantic relationships? Extremely not interesting.
I do appreciate that RM took the pitfall that so many fantasy writers fall into, where they give their protagonist magic powers, and then the series goes on and the character has to do more and more dramatic things with those powers, and pretty soon they are blithely crossing moral event horizons but it’s fine because it’s for good reasons (Lois McMaster Bujold’s Penric books, I’m looking at you) and made that explicitly the central conflict: Aras descends into corruption slowly, but steadily, and it’s quite affecting. The exploration of power and coercion and the abnegation of one’s will (magical and non-magical) continues to be interesting. The romantic relationships? Extremely not interesting.
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July 21, 2023This latest book in the Tuyo series leads on naturally from the previous ones.We start off with Ryo wrestling over how he’ll cope with married life (it’s more complicated than that, of course) while Aras has increasing problems of his own. The supporting cast includes many of the characters we’ve met before, and it’s nice to see how they’re getting on.
The focus is on personal/internal challenges: the opposition/villains aren’t developed as characters and mainly serve to showcase how Ryo and Aras deal with them and each other.
As before, there’s a very slice-of-life feel. I do enjoy these books for the leisurely pace and meditative musings, though I could have done without as much repeated internal and external spelling out of thoughts, opinions and so on (accepting that’s how Ryo speaks).
Overall, a gentle-paced fantasy with a focus on interpersonal relationships.
The focus is on personal/internal challenges: the opposition/villains aren’t developed as characters and mainly serve to showcase how Ryo and Aras deal with them and each other.
As before, there’s a very slice-of-life feel. I do enjoy these books for the leisurely pace and meditative musings, though I could have done without as much repeated internal and external spelling out of thoughts, opinions and so on (accepting that’s how Ryo speaks).
Overall, a gentle-paced fantasy with a focus on interpersonal relationships.
July 20, 2023
With the earlier books I'd either not noticed or forgotten how freaking cool the world-building is: the starlit lands, the winter lands (moon), the summer lands (sun), and the desert Land of the Two Suns (the great sun and the younger sun) in which the moon doesn't shine.
The essential (not romantic) relationship of the three Ryo POV books is between Ryo and Aras, between the tension of someone raised to believe sorcery was evil and a sorcerer and issues of trust. I really liked the pendulum swing here as Aras comes to depend on Ryo.
Quibble: this is a loooong book, which could IMO have been shorter. In part this is simply the very formal politeness of the Ugaro culture, which takes pages for a simple greeting.
The essential (not romantic) relationship of the three Ryo POV books is between Ryo and Aras, between the tension of someone raised to believe sorcery was evil and a sorcerer and issues of trust. I really liked the pendulum swing here as Aras comes to depend on Ryo.
Quibble: this is a loooong book, which could IMO have been shorter. In part this is simply the very formal politeness of the Ugaro culture, which takes pages for a simple greeting.
July 18, 2023
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This is the conclusion to the main trilogy in the Tuyo series (though there are other books set in the world and more are forthcoming), and it was a very satisfying conclusion indeed. I enjoy the length and depth of these books for really getting caught up in a whole new world, and this one goes to some interesting new worlds for sure. This may be the first time I was actually excited to read a book that is a basically a long-ass journey! Neumeier is so good with pacing and character moments. I am gonna have to reread this whole series soon to really take it all in. A.
This is the conclusion to the main trilogy in the Tuyo series (though there are other books set in the world and more are forthcoming), and it was a very satisfying conclusion indeed. I enjoy the length and depth of these books for really getting caught up in a whole new world, and this one goes to some interesting new worlds for sure. This may be the first time I was actually excited to read a book that is a basically a long-ass journey! Neumeier is so good with pacing and character moments. I am gonna have to reread this whole series soon to really take it all in. A.
December 18, 2024
So this is basically my definition of what epic fantasy ought to be - the characters are front and center, the worldbuilding is both extremely detailed and does not make scientific or logical sense, the real world mythological roots are not too intrusive into the story, and I don’t have to deal with too many people’s point of view.
Oh and also there’s a real ethical dilemma at the heart of the story that is not about people being terrible, but about trying to do good against impossible odds. I really needed it.
Oh and also there’s a real ethical dilemma at the heart of the story that is not about people being terrible, but about trying to do good against impossible odds. I really needed it.
August 20, 2025
The saga of Ryo and Aras continues. The interaction between these two men from very different cultures and backgrounds is fascinating to the anthropologically minded, as is each man's dealings with the people of the other. Throw them both into a culture which even more different than their own, along with an unexpected quest, and we have two men struggling mightily to be true to themselves and suffering the price of their struggles. To misquote someone else's blurb, 'whom the gods would recruit, they first test to destruction ...'.
December 31, 2024
Oh my goodness. This book was slow, and there were even aspects that I didn't like, but what an brilliant story. What brilliant writing. What brilliant characters. I finished reading this and went straight back to reading book #1 again, the same evening, because I didn't want to leave this world yet. And then I went on and read Suelen again. And then because I was still in a Rachel Neumeier mood went and read The Floating Islands again.
January 18, 2024
I am sososo happy with the ending. I've read so many books (and fic) that end abruptly I hadn't imagined we'd get a real conclusion where all the main plot points were tied up in a tidy bow.
I plan on going back and rereading from the beginning of the series since I'm more comfortable reading first person novels.
I plan on going back and rereading from the beginning of the series since I'm more comfortable reading first person novels.
July 17, 2024
This series continues to play with delicate politics, inter-personal dynamics, and how power relates to both. Still in love with Ryo and Aras, and enjoyed seeing a bit more of Elaro and Darra, as well as a whole new country in this world. Sad that this is the last book in the series from Ryo's POV (my baby!) but I guess I will have to read some of the side books now and comfort myself with that.
April 22, 2025
The final book in this series from Ryo's perspective - probably a good thing as I was wearying a little of his narrative voice. The struggle that Aras has been having in controlling his sorcerous madness comes to a head in this book - can Ryo save him from himself? (You know the answer to this question).
August 30, 2023
Wonderful
This series is creative, innovative and I have read every word with total attention. I hope it goes on, and we are able to take part in the future adventures of this strong partnership.
Highly recommended.
This series is creative, innovative and I have read every word with total attention. I hope it goes on, and we are able to take part in the future adventures of this strong partnership.
Highly recommended.
January 5, 2025
I loved this book! It's long, but it could have been another five hundred pages as far as I'm concerned. So many interesting and well-described settings and characters. If you've read the first two books in the series, you definitely won't want to miss this one!!
October 5, 2025
Wonderful, wonderful series
The Black Dog series was very good, but this is superb. Characterization and world building outstanding. One caveat: I wasn’t a fan of Book 4 where the main character seemed (to my mind) slightly sleazy rather than charming- but perhaps that’s just me.
The Black Dog series was very good, but this is superb. Characterization and world building outstanding. One caveat: I wasn’t a fan of Book 4 where the main character seemed (to my mind) slightly sleazy rather than charming- but perhaps that’s just me.
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