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Cal Leandros #9
Downfall
I let it go—all of it. Everything I’d been saving up all my life, building and growing inside me, too much to hold in one half-human body. It pushed and fought to be free with a force that turned me into a bomb with a timer vibrating on zero. I was free.
But so was everything I’d fought so hard not to be…
Brothers Cal and Niko Leandros know trouble when they see it—and then proceed to wipe the floor with it. But now it seems their whole world is falling to pieces. Cal’s nightmarish monster side is growing ever stronger, changing Cal physically as well as mentally. Which is exactly what Grimm—Cal’s savage doppelgänger—wants. And when a covert supernatural organization decides that it’s time to put Cal down before he threatens pretty much everything else in existence, the brothers find themselves in a fight they actually might lose. But the dark temptations Cal has denied all his life may prove to be exactly what can save them.
Even if he must fall forever…
But so was everything I’d fought so hard not to be…
Brothers Cal and Niko Leandros know trouble when they see it—and then proceed to wipe the floor with it. But now it seems their whole world is falling to pieces. Cal’s nightmarish monster side is growing ever stronger, changing Cal physically as well as mentally. Which is exactly what Grimm—Cal’s savage doppelgänger—wants. And when a covert supernatural organization decides that it’s time to put Cal down before he threatens pretty much everything else in existence, the brothers find themselves in a fight they actually might lose. But the dark temptations Cal has denied all his life may prove to be exactly what can save them.
Even if he must fall forever…
352 pages, Mass Market Paperback
First published August 5, 2014
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Rob Thurman
43 books1,562 followersRob Thurman is currently writing three series for Penguin Putnam's imprint ROC FANTASY, as well as a brand-new mainstream series for Simon & Schuster's POCKET BOOKS.
Rob has also written for a Charlaine Harris & Toni L.P. Kelner Anthology, WOLFSBANE AND MISTLETOE. This year, Rob contributed a post-apocalyptic, "grim" faerie tale Western to the anthology, COURTS OF THE FEY.
Rob's work is dark, non-stop action from beginning to end, rife with purely evil sarcasm as sharp as a switchblade - and probably nearly as illegal. If one shoved LORD OF THE RINGS,
THE SHINING, and PULP FICTION into a wood-chipper, the result would be what Rob aims to deliver in a novel or short story.
A member of the Science Fiction and Fantasy Writers of America (SFWA), ROB THURMAN lives in RURAL Indiana - land of endless fields, infinite cows and where dialup is still the only soul-crushing option.
Rob has also written for a Charlaine Harris & Toni L.P. Kelner Anthology, WOLFSBANE AND MISTLETOE. This year, Rob contributed a post-apocalyptic, "grim" faerie tale Western to the anthology, COURTS OF THE FEY.
Rob's work is dark, non-stop action from beginning to end, rife with purely evil sarcasm as sharp as a switchblade - and probably nearly as illegal. If one shoved LORD OF THE RINGS,
THE SHINING, and PULP FICTION into a wood-chipper, the result would be what Rob aims to deliver in a novel or short story.
A member of the Science Fiction and Fantasy Writers of America (SFWA), ROB THURMAN lives in RURAL Indiana - land of endless fields, infinite cows and where dialup is still the only soul-crushing option.
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May 28, 2016
I love this series but this one is not my favorite Cal and Niko story. Too much Robin and too many 'clever' fake outs. Too much maudlin reminiscing about reincarnations. Tie in to her other Trickster series just annoying.
The thing about this series that I have always loved is Cal and Niko. That is the relationship I have come back for time and again. That and Cal’s amazing dark snarky humor.
I accepted Robin as their friend but this new turn (introduced in previous book) of reincarnation and Robin being as important to them as they are to each other just doesn’t work for me. Also, the Robin POVs. No, I just don’t want to see any of that.
Robin Thurman is an excellent writer and she must of course follow her muse wherever it takes her. I just don’t particularly want to follow.
The thing about this series that I have always loved is Cal and Niko. That is the relationship I have come back for time and again. That and Cal’s amazing dark snarky humor.
I accepted Robin as their friend but this new turn (introduced in previous book) of reincarnation and Robin being as important to them as they are to each other just doesn’t work for me. Also, the Robin POVs. No, I just don’t want to see any of that.
Robin Thurman is an excellent writer and she must of course follow her muse wherever it takes her. I just don’t particularly want to follow.
July 4, 2023
"I’ve told you before you could speak, Cal, I will always be with you and I’ll never give up on you. If that means dragging you back from the brink, then I will. If it means going with you over that brink, that I will do as well. Whether I’m afraid that most of you might already be gone doesn’t matter. I’ll be on your heels bringing what’s left of you with me."
And honestly that would have been a much better ending to this series. I mean, I know not everyone is like me and most people probably didn't want this series to go all ~darkest timeline~ but ...it would have made a lot of sense. And yes I am counting this as the 'end' of the series, because there are about three whole scenes in the next book that have any entertainment value whatsoever and two of them are flashbacks.
Anyway, there are parts to this book I like. I like Cal slowly becoming more Auphe [I know I sound like a broken record on this topic but Auphe Cal is just my favorite thing ever and we get PLENTY of that in this book] and the scene towards the end where Niko falls asleep with his head in Cal's lap is adorable and possibly one of my favorite scenes in the whole series, but there's also a lot in this book that gets more and more annoying the more times I read it.
I always said that Robin should have a POV and that Rob should do a past lives book, but be careful what you wish for I guess because it turns out that it's really more annoying than anything. I don't necessarily MIND the whole reincarnation thing but like I said before, I was good when the series was basically just about Cal and Niko and then Robin and Promise were there but kind of on the sidelines. When you take Robin and add him more heavily into the Cal and Niko bond it 1. just gets forced and awkward and 2. completely pushes the only female character in their group out of the picture, which is not great.
Also it seems like half this book is flashback and there is little to no action until the very end which is pretty annoying to me in an action heavy series like this. About half this book is from Robin's POV and he spends most of it talking shit and dropping vague 'I'm planning something but you don't get to know about it' hints. An unreliable narrator is one thing, but this is pretty ridiculous and it drives me up the wall even when I've read it so many times and know exactly what he's hinting at. Sometimes when I reread this I just skip most of Robin's chapters and it really highlights how little actual plot there is holding the whole thing together.
Also it just ...gets kind of exhausting when she decides that Cal and Niko were EVERY famous pair of dudes throughout history. Like I get some of them but there is no absolute way that every person who ever did anything ever is actually Cal and Niko. I get that this series requires a good amount of suspension of disbelief to start with, but this book crosses the line in several ways for me. Also maybe don't straight-wash people just because they are reincarnated as brothers this time around. When you pull the same 'Achilles and Patroclus were cousins' thing that Troy the movie did then you pretty much lose a whole star from me for that alone.
Then the ending ...like I said, I can suspend a lot of disbelief here, but Yeah. Okay.
Like I said, my ideal ending for this series was for them to either die or for Cal to go full Auphe and Niko goes darkside with him. I get that the second was never going to actually happen, but I think that them dying and then an epilogue maybe of Robin watching their next incarnations from afar with Ishiah [and maybe even Promise COUGH COUGH] would have been good. There's still plenty of great Cal snark in this book and MacLeod Andrews does a great job narrating as always, but between this book and The Next Book Of Which We Do Not Speak it's clear she was running out of ideas at this point.
Anyway, there are parts to this book I like. I like Cal slowly becoming more Auphe [I know I sound like a broken record on this topic but Auphe Cal is just my favorite thing ever and we get PLENTY of that in this book] and the scene towards the end where Niko falls asleep with his head in Cal's lap is adorable and possibly one of my favorite scenes in the whole series, but there's also a lot in this book that gets more and more annoying the more times I read it.
I always said that Robin should have a POV and that Rob should do a past lives book, but be careful what you wish for I guess because it turns out that it's really more annoying than anything. I don't necessarily MIND the whole reincarnation thing but like I said before, I was good when the series was basically just about Cal and Niko and then Robin and Promise were there but kind of on the sidelines. When you take Robin and add him more heavily into the Cal and Niko bond it 1. just gets forced and awkward and 2. completely pushes the only female character in their group out of the picture, which is not great.
Also it seems like half this book is flashback and there is little to no action until the very end which is pretty annoying to me in an action heavy series like this. About half this book is from Robin's POV and he spends most of it talking shit and dropping vague 'I'm planning something but you don't get to know about it' hints. An unreliable narrator is one thing, but this is pretty ridiculous and it drives me up the wall even when I've read it so many times and know exactly what he's hinting at. Sometimes when I reread this I just skip most of Robin's chapters and it really highlights how little actual plot there is holding the whole thing together.
Also it just ...gets kind of exhausting when she decides that Cal and Niko were EVERY famous pair of dudes throughout history. Like I get some of them but there is no absolute way that every person who ever did anything ever is actually Cal and Niko. I get that this series requires a good amount of suspension of disbelief to start with, but this book crosses the line in several ways for me. Also maybe don't straight-wash people just because they are reincarnated as brothers this time around. When you pull the same 'Achilles and Patroclus were cousins' thing that Troy the movie did then you pretty much lose a whole star from me for that alone.
Then the ending ...like I said, I can suspend a lot of disbelief here, but Yeah. Okay.
Like I said, my ideal ending for this series was for them to either die or for Cal to go full Auphe and Niko goes darkside with him. I get that the second was never going to actually happen, but I think that them dying and then an epilogue maybe of Robin watching their next incarnations from afar with Ishiah [and maybe even Promise COUGH COUGH] would have been good. There's still plenty of great Cal snark in this book and MacLeod Andrews does a great job narrating as always, but between this book and The Next Book Of Which We Do Not Speak it's clear she was running out of ideas at this point.
January 21, 2015
This was by far the worst book in the Cal and Niko series and now I am in search of other series to fill the void.
---SPOILERS---
The reminiscing about past lives that 'suddenly' become active memories was way too much. I am on board with the brothers who support each other in their own quirks, but by adding in the past lives part it completely ruins the entire Robin story. Now he has to be part of their lives and they have to like him, why can't they just have an anti-hero who we always sort of question his motives, but he always does something good for them, even if he helps himself along the way. Completely ruined the character for me.
The big ending and battle was horrible. It was rushed, was devoid of the detail it deserved and had little impact. The grand solution was not so grand, nor was the bargain struck to resolve the situation - which really didn't work, so was it really necessary in the story-line at all? Again, confusing and not consistent with the characters.
Why incorporate Georgina at all in the story. Did the editor cut something out where Rafferty was supposed to cure/disable his reproductive abilities and they just decided to leave this part out?
Multiple instances of lazy writing, poorly edited, and contained misspellings. I know my grammar is not perfect, but this is a professional and I expected more.
---SPOILERS---
The reminiscing about past lives that 'suddenly' become active memories was way too much. I am on board with the brothers who support each other in their own quirks, but by adding in the past lives part it completely ruins the entire Robin story. Now he has to be part of their lives and they have to like him, why can't they just have an anti-hero who we always sort of question his motives, but he always does something good for them, even if he helps himself along the way. Completely ruined the character for me.
The big ending and battle was horrible. It was rushed, was devoid of the detail it deserved and had little impact. The grand solution was not so grand, nor was the bargain struck to resolve the situation - which really didn't work, so was it really necessary in the story-line at all? Again, confusing and not consistent with the characters.
Why incorporate Georgina at all in the story. Did the editor cut something out where Rafferty was supposed to cure/disable his reproductive abilities and they just decided to leave this part out?
Multiple instances of lazy writing, poorly edited, and contained misspellings. I know my grammar is not perfect, but this is a professional and I expected more.
November 5, 2014
(Originally a 4 star review) This is the only series I enjoy. The Leandros novels, to me, are the greatest novels ever written. Who else writes about brothers against a supernatural world, without pulling their hair and teeth out over a female love interest? Sure, we have the Supernatural novels, but the Leandros Bros are in a class all their own. They're each other's soulmate (not in a romantic sense of course), and together they make the impossible.
My only complaint about Downfall? Robin. While his POV was packed with incredible information from time to time, and finding out about his role in the brothers' lives was moving, I would've preferred it if Niko's POV had been featured instead. Slashback and Doubletake were divine because of the beautiful focus on Cal and Niko's bond. But Cal referring to Robin as brother in Book 9 reminded me of the book Moonshine, in which Cal and Georgina were center stage. Cal and Niko's relationship had very little focus.
Niko's been working his fingers raw looking after Cal. Now, as of Book 9, Robin's on the same level as Niko?
But already looking forward to Cal 10 and Cal 11! Just hoping neither Book 10 or 11 will focus on Robin, Ishiah or who knows, maybe the Lady Thurman wants Promise to have her say.
So yep, Slashback, Downfall, Blackout and Deathwish: all superior to Downfall. Not because of the lukewarm, anti-climatic ending or the flashbacks, but because it was like 'omg Robin's a bro too'.
My only complaint about Downfall? Robin. While his POV was packed with incredible information from time to time, and finding out about his role in the brothers' lives was moving, I would've preferred it if Niko's POV had been featured instead. Slashback and Doubletake were divine because of the beautiful focus on Cal and Niko's bond. But Cal referring to Robin as brother in Book 9 reminded me of the book Moonshine, in which Cal and Georgina were center stage. Cal and Niko's relationship had very little focus.
Niko's been working his fingers raw looking after Cal. Now, as of Book 9, Robin's on the same level as Niko?
But already looking forward to Cal 10 and Cal 11! Just hoping neither Book 10 or 11 will focus on Robin, Ishiah or who knows, maybe the Lady Thurman wants Promise to have her say.
So yep, Slashback, Downfall, Blackout and Deathwish: all superior to Downfall. Not because of the lukewarm, anti-climatic ending or the flashbacks, but because it was like 'omg Robin's a bro too'.
August 5, 2014
Downfall has outdone itself in terms of writing. Rob Thurman has got to have multiple personalities, because she can write some of the most bizarre personalities so perfectly you would think that she hires multiple other people write characters for her. Now in Downfall, we get Robin's first person thoughts and personality, and it didn't feel inconsistent in any way. Downfall's story was also spectacular, giving small hints throughout the entirety of the book, yet only telling you what the ending battle was going to be in the last fifty or so pages, while also increasing the lore behind the world with more myths brought to light. I got Downfall early, and I have not been able to put it down since the day I got it. It's the best book in the series so far, and there's still so much more to be done, and it's going to have been a bitch and a half by the time it's over.
May 1, 2018
I absolutely love this this series! Nine books in and I think this one might be my favorite of all of them. I wasn't quite sure what to make of the reincarnation thing until now. Downfall totally sold me on it. It became one of my favorite aspects of the story actually, on top of everything else that's going on with Cal, Niko, Goodfellow, and company. I loved getting alternating chapters from Cal and Goodfellow's perspective - that's what made me get on the bandwagon. I also liked seeing consequences of Cal's Auphe genes coming to the surface more than they ever have before, which also begins to tie into the reincarnation aspect of the brothers.
August 31, 2015
After finishing this book, I was really undecided about how to rate it. I don't think Downfall was even close to the quality of the books that came before and I initially considered giving it two stars. I decided on three stars because I think it corrected course in a major way.
Thurman wrote herself into a corner with that “Auphe genes dominate” thing. Where can you go when your hero is locked into becoming a villain? You either finish a very popular series on a down note, or you find a way out of it. Unsurprisingly, the author decided on the latter. The result is a story with no real plot, and a deux ex machine conclusion. Normally, this would signal lazy writing. Here, I think it was really the only way to undo the problem of Cal becoming an Auphe. And, since most of Cal’s thoughts as this point are “how do I hold back my homicidal impulses,” I understand why the author has Goodfellow narrating. I love Robin, but he’s much better in small doses. Through him readers get a lot of information dumps about reincarnation, and the Puck's history, with some action thrown in. Though some of it was fun and interesting, there is no mystery or underlying plotline so I found it easy to put the book down more than once. Though heavily contrived, I was actually thrilled by the ending because it cleared the slate.
Overall, this was disappointing, but fans will want to know how things are resolved and what the status quo now is. The series can move forward from a strong position, and that has left me excited for the next installment. Recommended.
Thurman wrote herself into a corner with that “Auphe genes dominate” thing. Where can you go when your hero is locked into becoming a villain? You either finish a very popular series on a down note, or you find a way out of it. Unsurprisingly, the author decided on the latter. The result is a story with no real plot, and a deux ex machine conclusion. Normally, this would signal lazy writing. Here, I think it was really the only way to undo the problem of Cal becoming an Auphe. And, since most of Cal’s thoughts as this point are “how do I hold back my homicidal impulses,” I understand why the author has Goodfellow narrating. I love Robin, but he’s much better in small doses. Through him readers get a lot of information dumps about reincarnation, and the Puck's history, with some action thrown in. Though some of it was fun and interesting, there is no mystery or underlying plotline so I found it easy to put the book down more than once. Though heavily contrived, I was actually thrilled by the ending because it cleared the slate.
Overall, this was disappointing, but fans will want to know how things are resolved and what the status quo now is. The series can move forward from a strong position, and that has left me excited for the next installment. Recommended.
August 30, 2014
This is one of the best Urban Fantasy series around, and Rob Thurman finds a way to keep it fresh even though this is the 9th book, and you'd think all of the secrets were revealed, all of the obstacles overcome. But in this one, we get a unique view on the life and times of Cal and Niko Leandros courtesy of Robin Goodfellow, the puck who it turns out has been in their lives for longer than even they realized. Another great chapter in a story that I can't get enough of.
August 14, 2014
Originally posted at Smexy Books. http://smexybooks.com/2014/08/review-...
Favorite Quote: “Please. The devil wished he had half my style and a fourth of my schemes.”
Cal and Nikos Leandros are back and this time they face their greatest enemy…themselves. Cal’s monstrous heritage is slowly gaining a foothold, trying to obliterate Cal’s humanity. On top of that, Cal is being pursued by a murderous doppelganger, a psychotic ex, and a band of covert warriors who feel it’s time for Cal to be put to rest…permanently. As the clock ticks down, sending Cal and Niko’s closer to their deaths, it may be Cal’s murderous other half that saves them in the end.
Rob Thurman brings her A game to the table in her ninth installment of her Cal Leandros series. Secrets are revealed and we learn once and for all exactly why Robin Goodfellow has been such a primary figure in the Leandros brothers lives. The story is a bit more chatty than normal but the storyline is possibly one of her best. Presented in duel POVs, you get an in depth look at Cal and Niko’s past through the eyes of an immortal. And their past is far longer and more convoluted than anyone ever imagined. Thurman’s continued use of mythology and religion, twisting and manipulating to her whims, further expands and evolves her world, keeping the series fresh and inventive.
I am a huge fan of this series. Similar to the WB show, Supernatural, the premise is built upon two brothers whose love and loyalty to one another defines their very existence. Heavy on sibling love and the concept that not all family is tied by blood. Each episode in self contained with a long running arc. Well-plotted and cast with characters with dynamic personalities, this series is filled with suspense, betrayal, sarcasm, humor, and some very dangerous antagonists. A fascinating series that continues to captivate and enchant. Thurman does a fabulous job of exploring and evolving the relationship between brothers Cal and Nikos as they fight to protect each other and the clueless humans in the city.
Downfall opens with Cal noticing that he is beginning to manifest some physical traits of his auphe heritage. He fears that the more he starts to look like the auphe, the more he will start to act like one. Cal also has a influx of enemies gunning for him. He is been targeted for death by the Vigil, an organization that works to keep humans unaware of the supernaturals around them. Though he has always been on their radar, his actions in Slashback (book 8) placed him on their hit list. Cal’s ex girlfriend, Delilah, is now head Alpha of the Kin and has decided to clean house…beginning with Cal. Grimm is also back and is going to make Cal play the game of world domination with him regardless if Cal want to play or not.
Similar to Slashback, Thurman tells this story in the present and past but this time uses Robin Goodfellow’s memory to fill in most of the remaining blanks that have existed throughout the series. Robin has been a large part of the series but purposely hid his importance from us. In here we learn the full extent of his loyalty to Cal and Nikos and his intensive and sometimes intrusive manipulations behind the scenes. Reincarnation is the theme and Thurman works it into the ongoing storyline beautifully. We are gifted with a dual narration-Cal and Robin-as they each remember the past. It gives the story a sense of intimacy and depth to hear Robin bear his innermost feelings and actions concerning Cal and Nikos. We feel his pain, sadness, and weariness as we learn he has spent centuries trying to keep Cal and Nikos alive while they charged fearlessly into danger with each new life. It has become an endless cycle that Robin is determined to break.
The conflict is an explosion of violence, sacrifice, and brings about a shocking conclusion that wraps up a open storyline but leaves us with some interesting clues towards the future of Cal and his “family”. Robin definitely rules this installment and shows everyone that he is indeed the ultimate trickster. This series continues to walk on the dark side of urban fantasy as it repeatedly shows us that monsters do exist in the world and sometimes the difference between them and us is nothing more than a degree of separation. Even with each book having a resolvable conflict, I don’t view them as stand alones. The arc is long standing and convoluted as is the evolution of the main characters. I recommend starting from the beginning with Nightlife.
Overall Rating: A
Favorite Quote: “Please. The devil wished he had half my style and a fourth of my schemes.”
Cal and Nikos Leandros are back and this time they face their greatest enemy…themselves. Cal’s monstrous heritage is slowly gaining a foothold, trying to obliterate Cal’s humanity. On top of that, Cal is being pursued by a murderous doppelganger, a psychotic ex, and a band of covert warriors who feel it’s time for Cal to be put to rest…permanently. As the clock ticks down, sending Cal and Niko’s closer to their deaths, it may be Cal’s murderous other half that saves them in the end.
Rob Thurman brings her A game to the table in her ninth installment of her Cal Leandros series. Secrets are revealed and we learn once and for all exactly why Robin Goodfellow has been such a primary figure in the Leandros brothers lives. The story is a bit more chatty than normal but the storyline is possibly one of her best. Presented in duel POVs, you get an in depth look at Cal and Niko’s past through the eyes of an immortal. And their past is far longer and more convoluted than anyone ever imagined. Thurman’s continued use of mythology and religion, twisting and manipulating to her whims, further expands and evolves her world, keeping the series fresh and inventive.
I am a huge fan of this series. Similar to the WB show, Supernatural, the premise is built upon two brothers whose love and loyalty to one another defines their very existence. Heavy on sibling love and the concept that not all family is tied by blood. Each episode in self contained with a long running arc. Well-plotted and cast with characters with dynamic personalities, this series is filled with suspense, betrayal, sarcasm, humor, and some very dangerous antagonists. A fascinating series that continues to captivate and enchant. Thurman does a fabulous job of exploring and evolving the relationship between brothers Cal and Nikos as they fight to protect each other and the clueless humans in the city.
Downfall opens with Cal noticing that he is beginning to manifest some physical traits of his auphe heritage. He fears that the more he starts to look like the auphe, the more he will start to act like one. Cal also has a influx of enemies gunning for him. He is been targeted for death by the Vigil, an organization that works to keep humans unaware of the supernaturals around them. Though he has always been on their radar, his actions in Slashback (book 8) placed him on their hit list. Cal’s ex girlfriend, Delilah, is now head Alpha of the Kin and has decided to clean house…beginning with Cal. Grimm is also back and is going to make Cal play the game of world domination with him regardless if Cal want to play or not.
Similar to Slashback, Thurman tells this story in the present and past but this time uses Robin Goodfellow’s memory to fill in most of the remaining blanks that have existed throughout the series. Robin has been a large part of the series but purposely hid his importance from us. In here we learn the full extent of his loyalty to Cal and Nikos and his intensive and sometimes intrusive manipulations behind the scenes. Reincarnation is the theme and Thurman works it into the ongoing storyline beautifully. We are gifted with a dual narration-Cal and Robin-as they each remember the past. It gives the story a sense of intimacy and depth to hear Robin bear his innermost feelings and actions concerning Cal and Nikos. We feel his pain, sadness, and weariness as we learn he has spent centuries trying to keep Cal and Nikos alive while they charged fearlessly into danger with each new life. It has become an endless cycle that Robin is determined to break.
The conflict is an explosion of violence, sacrifice, and brings about a shocking conclusion that wraps up a open storyline but leaves us with some interesting clues towards the future of Cal and his “family”. Robin definitely rules this installment and shows everyone that he is indeed the ultimate trickster. This series continues to walk on the dark side of urban fantasy as it repeatedly shows us that monsters do exist in the world and sometimes the difference between them and us is nothing more than a degree of separation. Even with each book having a resolvable conflict, I don’t view them as stand alones. The arc is long standing and convoluted as is the evolution of the main characters. I recommend starting from the beginning with Nightlife.
Overall Rating: A
September 14, 2014
I could trudge through the overwritten story, it was annoying but I could deal with reading a conversation over multiple pages, sprinkled through random thoughts and memories of whomever's POV I was reading. I am almost used to authors padding the shit out of their books nowadays.
I could deal with the rehashing and repetition that has become pretty consistent since Blackout. You could make a drinking game probably. Just pick: Cal being obnoxious or emo, Robin being a perv or claiming to be the origin of whatever, or Niko being quiet and serene.
I am having great problems with the minuscule plot lines and lack of character growth between books. It bugs me when shit seems to be going nowhere fast and these characters are ever so static.
But the thing that just fucking ruined it for me in the entire book, the thing that completely shit in my Cheerios, was bringing Catcher back. And grudgingly Georgiana too. And for that matter the last six fucking pages.
The epilogue in Roadkill was such a crushing and epic moment of finality, of the terrible consequences to actions taken by Rafferty, that just magically erasing it via deus ex Fenris makes me wanna flush all the books I do own down the toilet. When I read Catcher walking out of the RV I about threw the fucking book in the trash (it's a library book so I thought better of it)
And then Georgiana... What the fuc.. Why wasn't she dead? When the hell did she get the powers to change people's thoughts and memories? Even though her character was written in a way to be disliked, and even though she is shitastically annoying, but when I thought she died (in Doubletake?)I was fucking speechless. I mean it was kinda done in an off-the-main-stage sorta way, but the impact was still there. Then, in this book after being absent for like 6 books (besides the supposed death), she just out of the blue, in an out-of-character chipper mood, calls to give Robin the info he needs most at the moment just because in this certain circumstance she feel like interfering? Um no.
And Cal gating to the sun. I see the logic of it killing all the retard baebies, but the gamble on Grimm actually bringing them back was absurd and out of character. Grimm would've been better used as a coat hanger for all that he did in this book. There was maybe one conversation with him where he said more than one word, he hate-flirted with Cal a bunch, and then he was microscopically mentioned in his own death scene.. A major antagonist that has a powerful gating ability, that has been built up as this major badass, a gigantic worry for all of mankind (whether they know or not), is snuffed out like a fart with febreeze. And then everyone's alive, Cal doesn't look Auphe anymore and all is well and by golly that Robin he is such a supreme being of puckdom, ain't he just a great trickster? Eh?Eh? Sucker? Sucker?
I'm done.
Fuck this shit.
I'll chose to believe this series ended with Blackout where it should have.
I could deal with the rehashing and repetition that has become pretty consistent since Blackout. You could make a drinking game probably. Just pick: Cal being obnoxious or emo, Robin being a perv or claiming to be the origin of whatever, or Niko being quiet and serene.
I am having great problems with the minuscule plot lines and lack of character growth between books. It bugs me when shit seems to be going nowhere fast and these characters are ever so static.
But the thing that just fucking ruined it for me in the entire book, the thing that completely shit in my Cheerios, was bringing Catcher back. And grudgingly Georgiana too. And for that matter the last six fucking pages.
The epilogue in Roadkill was such a crushing and epic moment of finality, of the terrible consequences to actions taken by Rafferty, that just magically erasing it via deus ex Fenris makes me wanna flush all the books I do own down the toilet. When I read Catcher walking out of the RV I about threw the fucking book in the trash (it's a library book so I thought better of it)
And then Georgiana... What the fuc.. Why wasn't she dead? When the hell did she get the powers to change people's thoughts and memories? Even though her character was written in a way to be disliked, and even though she is shitastically annoying, but when I thought she died (in Doubletake?)I was fucking speechless. I mean it was kinda done in an off-the-main-stage sorta way, but the impact was still there. Then, in this book after being absent for like 6 books (besides the supposed death), she just out of the blue, in an out-of-character chipper mood, calls to give Robin the info he needs most at the moment just because in this certain circumstance she feel like interfering? Um no.
And Cal gating to the sun. I see the logic of it killing all the retard baebies, but the gamble on Grimm actually bringing them back was absurd and out of character. Grimm would've been better used as a coat hanger for all that he did in this book. There was maybe one conversation with him where he said more than one word, he hate-flirted with Cal a bunch, and then he was microscopically mentioned in his own death scene.. A major antagonist that has a powerful gating ability, that has been built up as this major badass, a gigantic worry for all of mankind (whether they know or not), is snuffed out like a fart with febreeze. And then everyone's alive, Cal doesn't look Auphe anymore and all is well and by golly that Robin he is such a supreme being of puckdom, ain't he just a great trickster? Eh?Eh? Sucker? Sucker?
I'm done.
Fuck this shit.
I'll chose to believe this series ended with Blackout where it should have.
February 27, 2016
First, a note to anyone who hasn't read the other Leandros brothers books: this book is not the place to start. The series should be read in order, starting with Nightlife.
Okay, author, you got me. I was horrified by things that happened in this book and found some of it more disturbing than Dresden Files: Changes. I didn’t see how the characters could find a way back…but they did. What a con, what a plan! What a shockingly optimistic ending.
This time we got about half the book filtered through Robin Goodfellow’s point of view, and that was definitely different. He has depths of emotion to him that had been only hinted at before. While I wasn’t sure how I felt about the reincarnation angle introduced in Slashback, I’ve warmed up to it now. What Robin and Cal reveal about some of Cal’s and Niko’s past lives was intriguing. The Trojan War sequences were gripping, but Cal’s past Celtic incarnation was also quite a trip.
I also liked the reappearance of some characters that haven’t appeared in recent books--two in particular I thought were gone for good. But, although she was somewhat useful, I still don’t like Georgina; and Delilah still needs to go.
Okay, author, you got me. I was horrified by things that happened in this book and found some of it more disturbing than Dresden Files: Changes. I didn’t see how the characters could find a way back…but they did. What a con, what a plan! What a shockingly optimistic ending.
This time we got about half the book filtered through Robin Goodfellow’s point of view, and that was definitely different. He has depths of emotion to him that had been only hinted at before. While I wasn’t sure how I felt about the reincarnation angle introduced in Slashback, I’ve warmed up to it now. What Robin and Cal reveal about some of Cal’s and Niko’s past lives was intriguing. The Trojan War sequences were gripping, but Cal’s past Celtic incarnation was also quite a trip.
I also liked the reappearance of some characters that haven’t appeared in recent books--two in particular I thought were gone for good. But, although she was somewhat useful, I still don’t like Georgina; and Delilah still needs to go.
This entire review has been hidden because of spoilers.
August 25, 2014
Great deity! I thought the writing would go back to normal after the last book but no. Halfway through and very, very little has happened. Could sum it up so far in a few not-very-interesting sentences and they wouldn't be spoilers. Robin has had a lot of sex. Cal and Niko are devoted to each other throughout many lifetimes. Cal is half Auph.
This can't be the same writer that gave us the first 5 books in the series!
Update: read the first and last two chapters and save yourself from yelling at the characters.
This can't be the same writer that gave us the first 5 books in the series!
Update: read the first and last two chapters and save yourself from yelling at the characters.
June 22, 2017
5 Stars
Great redeemer of a ninth novel. All I know is that I adore Rob Thurman and love this series. A true guilty pleasure of mine. This is an amazing tale that centers on the puck and his antics. Awesome!
Great redeemer of a ninth novel. All I know is that I adore Rob Thurman and love this series. A true guilty pleasure of mine. This is an amazing tale that centers on the puck and his antics. Awesome!
January 17, 2015
I looooove this series and Cal and Niko so much but I am so fucking sick of Cal's monster side being thisclose to taking over because I just keep waiting for one of the brothers to die because of it and I'm pretty sure I'll go either catatonic or apeshit if that ever happens. (the 2 likes are for this, not the review!)
REVIEW:
There are spoilers from other books in this review.
Well, here it is, the moment we’ve all beendreading waiting for, Cal’s Auphe side comes out to play with a vengeance. The new thing around this time is that much of the story is told from Goodfellow’s POV, which definitely lets us see another side of our favorite Puck. Though we know (and are told over and over and over again, much to Cal and Niko’s dismay), how crafty, self-serving, etc., etc., etc., Pucks, especially Robin, can be, we really get to see first hand how he attempts to manipulate things to go the way he wants, which he’s never done when it concerns the brothers in the past, because the end is truly nigh.
Not only is Grimm hell-bent on a final showdown with Cal, but Delilah is now head bitch and Cal’s number one on her hit list. Lest we forget the Vigil, they still want Cal dead for exposing himself to humans. Oh yeah, there’s also the little fact that Cal is not so slowly morphing into full a Auphe, a prospect that doesn’t sit well with him, though the urge to kill everyone in sight thankfully hasn’t returned, or with Niko, who’s more unsettled than he lets on.
The whole idea of reincarnation still grinds my gears. In a way, it does make for a much closer bond between Goodfellow and the Leandros brothers, whether or not they were brothers, cousins, friends or whatever in their past lives. It just makes this incarnation a bit less special, despite their definitely unique circumstances this time around, as they’ve been around before, in seemingly lesser capacities, though it appears they do learn something each time and each incarnation may be an improvement on those that have come before, at least in Nik’s case. The best thing about this whole stupid storyline is Robin’s devotion to them and his need for them, despite the crap he gives them. He’s basically broken each time they die and has to wait hundreds of years for them to be reborn, then many more years for them to grow up. As an aside, I found Cullen to be a fucking pain in the ass and hated that portion of the story.
While this is still my favorite series, the past couple of books I’ve really been wishing for the exposition to be toned down, as well as some other things, because I’d like more actual talking between characters. While there was still a ton of internal monologue and rehashing of everyone’s situation, how bad the Auphe are/Cal will be when he’s full Auphe, it did seem to be toned down and definitely in the last, say, quarter of the book, there seemed to be more dialogue.
The machinations of Robin are a big, though secret, portion of the plot, and I guessed part of what was going on and was thrilled when I found out I was correct, even more so when we find out that certain changes allow for certain things to occur. Yep, cryptic as hell, but I don’t want to give anything away. When you get to the end, you’ll know what I’m referring to. And let me just say, more page time, please!!!!
I really love how, when Cal remembered something about another character that had happened in the past, he totally didn’t give up the grudge he immediately developed (and his continued disdain for Promise warmed my heart), though he wasn’t going to disclose what he remembered for fear of hurting someone else. Not saying he never got over it, but he made his feelings known to this person at every turn.
And speaking of grudges, I looooooved that when Robin wound up speaking to a certain someone, he made it very clear, in no uncertain terms, that he did not like this person and would do nothing to appease them. Hi five Goodfellow.
I’m not sure if Downfall is the end of the series or not. If it is, I think it’s a very satisfying way for it to end (even though that skank Promise is still alive). However, I really hope it’s not. I love the way this book concluded and think there are a bunch of possible new directions for future stories to go, I’ll sure as hell read them.
REVIEW:
There are spoilers from other books in this review.
Well, here it is, the moment we’ve all been
Not only is Grimm hell-bent on a final showdown with Cal, but Delilah is now head bitch and Cal’s number one on her hit list. Lest we forget the Vigil, they still want Cal dead for exposing himself to humans. Oh yeah, there’s also the little fact that Cal is not so slowly morphing into full a Auphe, a prospect that doesn’t sit well with him, though the urge to kill everyone in sight thankfully hasn’t returned, or with Niko, who’s more unsettled than he lets on.
The whole idea of reincarnation still grinds my gears. In a way, it does make for a much closer bond between Goodfellow and the Leandros brothers, whether or not they were brothers, cousins, friends or whatever in their past lives. It just makes this incarnation a bit less special, despite their definitely unique circumstances this time around, as they’ve been around before, in seemingly lesser capacities, though it appears they do learn something each time and each incarnation may be an improvement on those that have come before, at least in Nik’s case. The best thing about this whole stupid storyline is Robin’s devotion to them and his need for them, despite the crap he gives them. He’s basically broken each time they die and has to wait hundreds of years for them to be reborn, then many more years for them to grow up. As an aside, I found Cullen to be a fucking pain in the ass and hated that portion of the story.
While this is still my favorite series, the past couple of books I’ve really been wishing for the exposition to be toned down, as well as some other things, because I’d like more actual talking between characters. While there was still a ton of internal monologue and rehashing of everyone’s situation, how bad the Auphe are/Cal will be when he’s full Auphe, it did seem to be toned down and definitely in the last, say, quarter of the book, there seemed to be more dialogue.
The machinations of Robin are a big, though secret, portion of the plot, and I guessed part of what was going on and was thrilled when I found out I was correct, even more so when we find out that certain changes allow for certain things to occur. Yep, cryptic as hell, but I don’t want to give anything away. When you get to the end, you’ll know what I’m referring to. And let me just say, more page time, please!!!!
I really love how, when Cal remembered something about another character that had happened in the past, he totally didn’t give up the grudge he immediately developed (and his continued disdain for Promise warmed my heart), though he wasn’t going to disclose what he remembered for fear of hurting someone else. Not saying he never got over it, but he made his feelings known to this person at every turn.
And speaking of grudges, I looooooved that when Robin wound up speaking to a certain someone, he made it very clear, in no uncertain terms, that he did not like this person and would do nothing to appease them. Hi five Goodfellow.
I’m not sure if Downfall is the end of the series or not. If it is, I think it’s a very satisfying way for it to end (even though that skank Promise is still alive). However, I really hope it’s not. I love the way this book concluded and think there are a bunch of possible new directions for future stories to go, I’ll sure as hell read them.
December 21, 2014
Being a sucker for sibling romance, I am a huge fan of Cal Leandros books, I think I rated the books in the series no lower than 4 stars and I have read all of them. Now surprisingly with the last or latest book (I've read somewhere that Cal Leandros series is slotted for 9 books? I sincerely hope not) I am disappointed so much so that I so want to talk to Rob Thurman and ask what happened because I know what she is capable of and its not this. The book reads like a fan fiction with a warning 'angst without a plot' as in I think Cal and Robin just alternates in their angst 'woe is me, I am an albatross in my brothers neck and I will get him killed one of these days' to 'woe is me, they will again leave me to my eternal loneliness' The past lives story arc was not done seamlessly as in Thurman did not show how their past lives relate to their current one as Goodfellow himself said this is not the usual Cal that he knew. Since there is no correlation you end up not caring for Achilles/Patroclus or Phalen/Cullen. Really in the past lives Cal is a drunk horndog? Who could not protect himself without Niko and Robin? I find that hard to believe and a disservice to Cal. I definitely like the Cal of today wherein he is angsty, sarcastic, borderline sociopath but with a hidden heart of gold and he can definitely take care of himself without Niko always watching his back. And as the other review said, I also personally balk at the storyline wherein Robin is in the same footing as Niko in Cal's heart, I think she should just stick to the previous story line wherein the best Robin can hope for is a close second in the hearts of the brothers. Like the book always says, Cal always came first to Niko just as Niko is always first to Cal. (Just like in Supernatural that why I like Bobby he loves the boys like his own but he accepts the fact that they always came first with each other). The fans of Cal leandros are interested in the books because of the brotherly angst. Now going back to my review he-he personal preferences aside there is actually no plot to speak of which is really disappointing if you have read the previous books I mean where is the great characterization and plotline of Nightlife and Deathwish and the artistic writing style of Slashback. The ending is also rushed and too neatly packaged as in their every problem is solved just like that. I personally have no problem with the reset ending (Supernatural did that a dozen of times he-he) but the writer had to make it believable. I was actually thinking maybe i bought a condense version from google this can't be written by Rob Thurman. I fervently hope we have more Cal Leandros books so that we can bury this book like it was never a part of the series I am actually appealing to Rob Thurman if there is a future books get rid of the previous lives story arc and just concentrate on the brothers and this current life.
This entire review has been hidden because of spoilers.
December 7, 2014
I have one word for this book...
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WOW! Just WOW! There is a reason that this is one of my favorite urban fantasy series and this book is definitely the proof. I know that I’m saying that for every book in this series, but I am telling the truth. These books are getting better and better and I don’t know how this is even possible!
This is definitely darker and more difficult to read. But reading it make us understand way better the relationship between the brothers and Goodfellow. The fact that there is also Goodfellow’s POV makes this book even better!
In this story, Cal and Niko have to deal with the most dangerous enemy they have and with themselves. Cal has to accept that his darkest side is coming to the surface and Niko stands with him as he always does. And Goodfellow is trying to do his best to help his friends.
Cal is darker than ever. It seems like another life since I read the first book when he was way younger and immature. But now he is wiser and although he knows what he’s coming he’s determined not to lose himself. His love for Niko is the only strength he truly needs.
Niko is the best. Only a human but very stubborn to let non-humans deal with their shit. He is ready to walk to his death not only willingly but singing also as long he is with his brother. I wasn’t expecting anything less to be honest!
And as for Goodfellow… He is the silent hero. He lives since forever and he keeps losing his best friends and the only family that matters to him. He spends his years in loneliness until Cal and Niko come again for only a few years in his life and then die again… And he keeps expecting them because he loves them as brother. I have no words for him… I simply love him!
A great book and a great series!!
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WOW! Just WOW! There is a reason that this is one of my favorite urban fantasy series and this book is definitely the proof. I know that I’m saying that for every book in this series, but I am telling the truth. These books are getting better and better and I don’t know how this is even possible!
This is definitely darker and more difficult to read. But reading it make us understand way better the relationship between the brothers and Goodfellow. The fact that there is also Goodfellow’s POV makes this book even better!
In this story, Cal and Niko have to deal with the most dangerous enemy they have and with themselves. Cal has to accept that his darkest side is coming to the surface and Niko stands with him as he always does. And Goodfellow is trying to do his best to help his friends.
Cal is darker than ever. It seems like another life since I read the first book when he was way younger and immature. But now he is wiser and although he knows what he’s coming he’s determined not to lose himself. His love for Niko is the only strength he truly needs.
Niko is the best. Only a human but very stubborn to let non-humans deal with their shit. He is ready to walk to his death not only willingly but singing also as long he is with his brother. I wasn’t expecting anything less to be honest!
And as for Goodfellow… He is the silent hero. He lives since forever and he keeps losing his best friends and the only family that matters to him. He spends his years in loneliness until Cal and Niko come again for only a few years in his life and then die again… And he keeps expecting them because he loves them as brother. I have no words for him… I simply love him!
A great book and a great series!!
February 6, 2020
4.5 stars
My review is in spoiler tags because it hasn't been edited yet. It probable has too much negative stuff as that's what I tend to think to write down. If I'm enjoying myself, I don't want to stop reading!
My review is in spoiler tags because it hasn't been edited yet. It probable has too much negative stuff as that's what I tend to think to write down. If I'm enjoying myself, I don't want to stop reading!
September 28, 2014
I was pretty disappointed by this book. I really wanted to like it, to finish the series on a good note (because I'm pretty sure this is the last one...?), but that didn't happen.
There was a lot of reminiscing about the past, nostalgia, the usual dose of sarcasm... and some action. And Grimm.
I never thought I would say this, but there wasn't enough female characters in this book.
Where the heck was Promise?! And Delilah? (Well Delilah had one scene, forgive me). Robin, Cal, Niko, and sometimes some Ishiah, that was it. It felt... incomplete. And really heavy, because all three of them are not in a good place in this book. So much angst. Too much angst. And I'm a big fan of angst.
It kinda felt like... we were stuck in the same place, physically and emotionally, all the way through. I think we spent 80% of the book at Robin's place. Where there was a lot of inner monologues but not much being said out loud.
It was heavy, and draining, and I was bored.
There, I said it.
I'm still going to check out every new book coming out by Rob Thurman, but if this is the last that we see from Cal and Niko... I think I'll be okay with it.
There was a lot of reminiscing about the past, nostalgia, the usual dose of sarcasm... and some action. And Grimm.
I never thought I would say this, but there wasn't enough female characters in this book.
Where the heck was Promise?! And Delilah? (Well Delilah had one scene, forgive me). Robin, Cal, Niko, and sometimes some Ishiah, that was it. It felt... incomplete. And really heavy, because all three of them are not in a good place in this book. So much angst. Too much angst. And I'm a big fan of angst.
It kinda felt like... we were stuck in the same place, physically and emotionally, all the way through. I think we spent 80% of the book at Robin's place. Where there was a lot of inner monologues but not much being said out loud.
It was heavy, and draining, and I was bored.
There, I said it.
I'm still going to check out every new book coming out by Rob Thurman, but if this is the last that we see from Cal and Niko... I think I'll be okay with it.
August 6, 2014
So I bought the book this morning and finished it this evening. That should tell you something right there.
A lot of the dangling plot threads get tied up in this book. Cal's monster side makes several appearances throughout the book and we finally get a glimpse into Cal's time in Tumnulus. Pretty much all the standing antagonists make at least a short appearance, Delilah, The Vigil, and most notably Grimm, who acts as the main antagonist.
Robin is a POV character which I wasn't to sure about at first, but a lot is revealed that we would have never found out about otherwise. There's a lot more of the reincarnation aspect and how Robin has dealt or hasn't dealt with it over the centuries. A lot of what we've seen of Robin in the series up until now has been mostly on the surface and getting his POV casts his actions up until now in a new light.
A lot of the dangling plot threads get tied up in this book. Cal's monster side makes several appearances throughout the book and we finally get a glimpse into Cal's time in Tumnulus. Pretty much all the standing antagonists make at least a short appearance, Delilah, The Vigil, and most notably Grimm, who acts as the main antagonist.
Robin is a POV character which I wasn't to sure about at first, but a lot is revealed that we would have never found out about otherwise. There's a lot more of the reincarnation aspect and how Robin has dealt or hasn't dealt with it over the centuries. A lot of what we've seen of Robin in the series up until now has been mostly on the surface and getting his POV casts his actions up until now in a new light.
December 22, 2014
The series seems to be losing steam. The introduction that Cal and Niko Leandros have been reincarnated into countless lives seems to be an unneeded complication to the storyline. The number of times Thurman resorted to stories about previous incarnations was a serious drag to the book for me.
Another problem for me was the alternation POV between Cal and Robin. I often found myself annoyed when reaching a Robin chapter. As much as I like Robin as a supporting character, I felt as if his chapters pulled me out of the story each and every time.
Another problem for me was the alternation POV between Cal and Robin. I often found myself annoyed when reaching a Robin chapter. As much as I like Robin as a supporting character, I felt as if his chapters pulled me out of the story each and every time.
August 19, 2014
I haven't been that impressed with books 8 and 9.. I absolutely loved the first 7. I think the author has run out of material and needs to end the series. It's taking a crappy turn like the Anita Blake series did by Laurell K Hamilton. I was highly dissatisfied by this book .
August 11, 2014
Before I can even get to the actual review, I feel it’s absolutely pertinent to say that this is my favorite book series of all time. No lie. No other adult, new adult, young adult, or any other category series, can even come close to toping this series. This series is like FEMA relief funds. Untouchable. And at one time, a few years ago, I was prepared to launch a kickstarter (lol, did kickstarter even exist back then? I digress.) to fund Rob Thurman books for the rest of my life. One a year for the next fifty or sixty, okay?
But lately, I’d say with the past two to three books, I’ve started to notice that I’ve gotten less and less enthusiastic about the book releases. I still buy them. I still read them within a few hours, then reread, but the series has started to feel … almost like it’s overstayed its welcome. I’m kind of getting tired of the series, which breaks my heart.
I comes down to this: the novelty of this series is about two brothers struggling to survive while being accosted by nightmares they don’t understand, all the while being kept afloat by the bond they stare and the few, very precious, friends they have. This is book nine. By now there are no secrets left. The number of friends or at least allies has ballooned to a previously unthinkable number, and while these brothers still love each other more than anyone else in the world, they’re not completely dependent on each other any more. The novelty, unfortunately, has worn off.
Plus, the weird reincarnation thing …
Yeah. So this time around I found myself doing something that’s never happened before. I didn’t rush out to buy this book on release date. And then when I had it, I read some, put it down, read some, moved to a different book, then came back to it. That has never, I swear never, happened.
And so many little things irritated me about this book, beginning most notably that Rob Thurman has replaced a lot of action that existed in previous books, for a lot more talking. To be fair, she’s always had an issue with characters monologing. They just love to talk, especially Cal. But there’s always been a firm balance between the sarcastic wit and banter of the characters, and the action. This time, not so much. The action seemed almost completely lacking, and instead I was subjected to endless rambling about past lives and who did what and when and how and jesus make it stop. I don’t want to hear about Achilles anymore. I don’t want to hear about Alexander the great. I just want to hear about Cal and Niko. And considering aside from Cal, and in a somewhat limited manner, they don’t remember their previous lives, all this rambling about said previous lives, adds nothing to the plot development or character development. There should have been so much less of Goodfellow reminiscing about the good old times, slaughtering kids and all.
I wanted more Promise, no Georgina, and cameos by Catcher and Rafferty that didn’t seem ultra convenient and unrealistic. In previous books supporting characters have woven their way through almost seamlessly, but in this book everyone from Flay to Ish were getting thrown in, if only to remind reader that they exist in this universe?
Is this the last book in the series? Is that why everything feels so crammed in this book and there’s so much talking?
Of course there were a ton of things I did love, too, from the amazing bond between Goodfellow and the brothers, to Cal’s dependable humor and …uncongenial way of settling past issue. I actually liked Grimm a lot more this time around, and felt like his character had a little more depth, and the h/c is always a major draw to this series.
If I’m being truthful, this is a three star book. It’s a three star book pretending to be a four star book. But it gets the four stars. Not for nostalgia’s sake, or because I’m in a particularly giving mood. No, it gets the four stars for that amazingly perfect, holy shit why couldn’t the whole book be like this, damnit this is why you’re my favorite Goodfellow, ending chapter. That ending. That last page. Perfection.
But lately, I’d say with the past two to three books, I’ve started to notice that I’ve gotten less and less enthusiastic about the book releases. I still buy them. I still read them within a few hours, then reread, but the series has started to feel … almost like it’s overstayed its welcome. I’m kind of getting tired of the series, which breaks my heart.
I comes down to this: the novelty of this series is about two brothers struggling to survive while being accosted by nightmares they don’t understand, all the while being kept afloat by the bond they stare and the few, very precious, friends they have. This is book nine. By now there are no secrets left. The number of friends or at least allies has ballooned to a previously unthinkable number, and while these brothers still love each other more than anyone else in the world, they’re not completely dependent on each other any more. The novelty, unfortunately, has worn off.
Plus, the weird reincarnation thing …
Yeah. So this time around I found myself doing something that’s never happened before. I didn’t rush out to buy this book on release date. And then when I had it, I read some, put it down, read some, moved to a different book, then came back to it. That has never, I swear never, happened.
And so many little things irritated me about this book, beginning most notably that Rob Thurman has replaced a lot of action that existed in previous books, for a lot more talking. To be fair, she’s always had an issue with characters monologing. They just love to talk, especially Cal. But there’s always been a firm balance between the sarcastic wit and banter of the characters, and the action. This time, not so much. The action seemed almost completely lacking, and instead I was subjected to endless rambling about past lives and who did what and when and how and jesus make it stop. I don’t want to hear about Achilles anymore. I don’t want to hear about Alexander the great. I just want to hear about Cal and Niko. And considering aside from Cal, and in a somewhat limited manner, they don’t remember their previous lives, all this rambling about said previous lives, adds nothing to the plot development or character development. There should have been so much less of Goodfellow reminiscing about the good old times, slaughtering kids and all.
I wanted more Promise, no Georgina, and cameos by Catcher and Rafferty that didn’t seem ultra convenient and unrealistic. In previous books supporting characters have woven their way through almost seamlessly, but in this book everyone from Flay to Ish were getting thrown in, if only to remind reader that they exist in this universe?
Is this the last book in the series? Is that why everything feels so crammed in this book and there’s so much talking?
Of course there were a ton of things I did love, too, from the amazing bond between Goodfellow and the brothers, to Cal’s dependable humor and …uncongenial way of settling past issue. I actually liked Grimm a lot more this time around, and felt like his character had a little more depth, and the h/c is always a major draw to this series.
If I’m being truthful, this is a three star book. It’s a three star book pretending to be a four star book. But it gets the four stars. Not for nostalgia’s sake, or because I’m in a particularly giving mood. No, it gets the four stars for that amazingly perfect, holy shit why couldn’t the whole book be like this, damnit this is why you’re my favorite Goodfellow, ending chapter. That ending. That last page. Perfection.
August 30, 2014
This is book #9 in Rob Thurman's the Leandros Brothers series. And usually I'm raving about the books but after I finished this one I had to kick back and think about it. This book is different because this one is told from Goodfellow's perspective. Mostly.
If you are a reader of the series then you know who Goodfellow is -- for you newbies, he is a pan. Well, no, that's a lie. He is THE Pan. He is the second Hob, once the firs. He has been around since before there was time. Before there were gods, before Eden. In fact he was the one who tempted in the garden. (We'll skip the religious debate which isn't necessary to enjoy the book).
Goodfellow has always been a friend of the brothers and has always stepped up to help them in their efforts to save the world from all manner of unsavory creatures, particularly Auphe. But this book twists and turns on Goodfellow and makes him more...meanacing. More devious. More sly and arrogant and instead of the sexy, lustful, fun pan, we get the snarky, pompous, conceited one.
I love the character of Goodfellow but right now, not so much. I think what Thurman did was very clever and unexpected. Although I love unexpected, I don't think I'm exactly liking who this character has been revealed to be. I'm really torn over this one.
However! Let me say the adventure is damn fine and the story is wonderful as always. And ooh boy, look out. Caliban, Cullen, Calibos, is emerging and Grimm is RIGHT. THERE. Need I say more? It is the Auphe battle we've all been waiting for. But It may not be what you were waiting for.
You will be surprised. In the character arc, in the plot, in the resolution. And you may agree that Goodfellow is more than a little surprising/shocking...but hang in with Thurman.
Because guess what kiddies?? I hear we are going to get at least TWO MORE BOOK! HURRAY! Thurman, you keep me hanging on. I bow to the master!
If you are a reader of the series then you know who Goodfellow is -- for you newbies, he is a pan. Well, no, that's a lie. He is THE Pan. He is the second Hob, once the firs. He has been around since before there was time. Before there were gods, before Eden. In fact he was the one who tempted in the garden. (We'll skip the religious debate which isn't necessary to enjoy the book).
Goodfellow has always been a friend of the brothers and has always stepped up to help them in their efforts to save the world from all manner of unsavory creatures, particularly Auphe. But this book twists and turns on Goodfellow and makes him more...meanacing. More devious. More sly and arrogant and instead of the sexy, lustful, fun pan, we get the snarky, pompous, conceited one.
I love the character of Goodfellow but right now, not so much. I think what Thurman did was very clever and unexpected. Although I love unexpected, I don't think I'm exactly liking who this character has been revealed to be. I'm really torn over this one.
However! Let me say the adventure is damn fine and the story is wonderful as always. And ooh boy, look out. Caliban, Cullen, Calibos, is emerging and Grimm is RIGHT. THERE. Need I say more? It is the Auphe battle we've all been waiting for. But It may not be what you were waiting for.
You will be surprised. In the character arc, in the plot, in the resolution. And you may agree that Goodfellow is more than a little surprising/shocking...but hang in with Thurman.
Because guess what kiddies?? I hear we are going to get at least TWO MORE BOOK! HURRAY! Thurman, you keep me hanging on. I bow to the master!
August 19, 2014
Nur 3 Sterne für Rob Thurman?? Ich muss gestehen, ich bin ja sonst ein echter Fan, der "Cal und Niko"-Reihe, aber dieses Mal war ich echt enttäuscht. "Downfall" ist bereits der 9. Band der Dark Urban-Fantasy-Reihe und ich hatte den Eindruck, als hätte die Autorin langsam die Lust an den beiden Brüdern verloren. Dafür dreht sich in diesem Buch gefühlt alles um Robin Goodfellow, den unsterblichen, stets lüsternen, gerissenen, aber loyalen Puck, Trickbetrüger und Dieb. Nicht falsch verstehen, ich mag den Charakter, aber es war einfach nicht mehr der Kern der Reihe, den ich liebe.
Eigentlich hat auch dieser Band alle Voraussetzungen, um wieder genial-spannend zu sein: Cal kämpft mal wieder gegen seine Auphe-Gene und seine Monster-Seite und wird dabei der Rasse seines Vaters auch körperlich immer ähnlicher; der letzte andere Halb-Auphe Grimm will es mal wieder wissen und fordert Cal zu einem Kampf gegen seine Monster-Armee auf; Cals psychopathische Ex-Delilah ergreift die Kontrolle über die Wolfs-Mafia und gibt Cal zum Abschuss frei und zu allem Überfluss sind die Vigil, die Wächter, welche versuchen das Geheimnis der übernatürlichen Wesen zu schützen, echt mordswütend auf Cal, weil der bei seinem letzten Abenteuer skrupellos Portale erschaffen hat, um seinen Bruder Niko zu erschaffen. Wer nun aber denkt, auf jeder Seite des Buchs wartet ein neuer Kampf auf Leben und Tod, der täuscht sich. Stattdessen widmet sich die Hälfte des Romans Robin, seine Erinnerungen an Begegnungen mit Cal und Niko in deren früheren Leben und Andeutungen, wie er die beiden Brüder dieses Mal retten will. Was folgt, sind nostalgische Trinkgelage, seitenweise sentimentale Erinnerungen, Geheimnisse, Pläne und Machenschaften, bis sich am Ende die Gefahren für die Brüder nach einem Kampf in Wohlgefallen auflösen. Das ist nicht spannend, das ist enttäuschend. Ich bin echt skeptisch, ob ich den nächsten Band der Reihe, falls es noch einen geben sollte, lesen werde.
Eigentlich hat auch dieser Band alle Voraussetzungen, um wieder genial-spannend zu sein: Cal kämpft mal wieder gegen seine Auphe-Gene und seine Monster-Seite und wird dabei der Rasse seines Vaters auch körperlich immer ähnlicher; der letzte andere Halb-Auphe Grimm will es mal wieder wissen und fordert Cal zu einem Kampf gegen seine Monster-Armee auf; Cals psychopathische Ex-Delilah ergreift die Kontrolle über die Wolfs-Mafia und gibt Cal zum Abschuss frei und zu allem Überfluss sind die Vigil, die Wächter, welche versuchen das Geheimnis der übernatürlichen Wesen zu schützen, echt mordswütend auf Cal, weil der bei seinem letzten Abenteuer skrupellos Portale erschaffen hat, um seinen Bruder Niko zu erschaffen. Wer nun aber denkt, auf jeder Seite des Buchs wartet ein neuer Kampf auf Leben und Tod, der täuscht sich. Stattdessen widmet sich die Hälfte des Romans Robin, seine Erinnerungen an Begegnungen mit Cal und Niko in deren früheren Leben und Andeutungen, wie er die beiden Brüder dieses Mal retten will. Was folgt, sind nostalgische Trinkgelage, seitenweise sentimentale Erinnerungen, Geheimnisse, Pläne und Machenschaften, bis sich am Ende die Gefahren für die Brüder nach einem Kampf in Wohlgefallen auflösen. Das ist nicht spannend, das ist enttäuschend. Ich bin echt skeptisch, ob ich den nächsten Band der Reihe, falls es noch einen geben sollte, lesen werde.
December 26, 2014
I finished this book yesterday, making myself an hour late for a Christmas gathering cuz I was not going to leave them hanging that close to the end. And I'm telling you it was frakkin hard to not jump to the end and peek at the horror once the main premise of what could happen at the end was revealed right at the start. Well, right in the blurb if the truth be truth. But I didn't. I rode the terrible anticipation right to the end, heart pumping all the way through. Which is probably a good thing since I haven't really done any calisthenic exercising for a month or more, lazy creature that I am. So this counts. It does.
This wasn't my favorite Cal Leandros book as I'm more into the brothers taking the forefront. Regardless this isn't one to miss with Robin Goodfellow, or rather his manipulations and scheming at center stage, the majority of the manipulations I probably still haven't figured out as I'll have to read this at least 100 more times to even get a nth of them realized, as well as go back through all the previous books to suss them out as well. If that's even possible.
Which frankly just makes me want to bow down to the brilliance of Rob Thurman's intelligence and creativity. "I'm not worthy. I'm not worthy." If I had any stalker tendencies at all, she would be at the top of my list, but as I've already established I'm lazy and that just seems like too much work, so instead I'd settle for a sit-down lunch with her where I could drill her a million questions starting with "where do you get your ideas?" "How did you figure this out?" "Did you have all the books planned out before the first one?" "Did you make a deal with the devil?" "What kind of books were you reading growing up?"
Not to mention "when's the next one?" "Anymore from the Korsak bros? or the Las Vegas Tricksters?" Okay, maybe a lunch and then into dinner...
This wasn't my favorite Cal Leandros book as I'm more into the brothers taking the forefront. Regardless this isn't one to miss with Robin Goodfellow, or rather his manipulations and scheming at center stage, the majority of the manipulations I probably still haven't figured out as I'll have to read this at least 100 more times to even get a nth of them realized, as well as go back through all the previous books to suss them out as well. If that's even possible.
Which frankly just makes me want to bow down to the brilliance of Rob Thurman's intelligence and creativity. "I'm not worthy. I'm not worthy." If I had any stalker tendencies at all, she would be at the top of my list, but as I've already established I'm lazy and that just seems like too much work, so instead I'd settle for a sit-down lunch with her where I could drill her a million questions starting with "where do you get your ideas?" "How did you figure this out?" "Did you have all the books planned out before the first one?" "Did you make a deal with the devil?" "What kind of books were you reading growing up?"
Not to mention "when's the next one?" "Anymore from the Korsak bros? or the Las Vegas Tricksters?" Okay, maybe a lunch and then into dinner...
August 9, 2014
I feel drained after reading this latest instalment in the Cal Leandros series. Seriously drained. For those of you unfamiliar with this series: first of all, go out and start reading it from the beginning, second of all, this is not a series for the faint hearted. It will wrench your emotions from laughter to tears in the blink of an eye, or the turn of a page in this case.
Our main protagonist Cal Leandros has spent the last 8 books wrestling with his Auphe heritage and in this book he finally seems to have come to the end of it, with his appearance changing and his actions becoming more Auphe-like. But that isn't where this book is gut-wrenching. It is Robin Goodfellow's point of view where you find out the depth of this eons long friendship and what lengths he will go to to keep the brothers alive. The pain he has faced in the past and his desperation for the only friends he has in his millennia of years. I cried, nay, I sobbed. I had tears and snot running down my face and I could barely read the words I was sobbing so hard.
But much as this book had its moments of pathos, it also had the trademark snarky humour that has made this series so memorable for me. Now that I know certain things I will be rereading the rest of the series very carefully. Just how far ahead has this genius of an author planned this? I would be quite satisfied if this was the last book in the series but will happily read more if they happen. Big deep breaths, now I have to go out and face the real world again, one not populated with Robins, Lupa, Auphe and the Bae. Probably a very good thing.
Our main protagonist Cal Leandros has spent the last 8 books wrestling with his Auphe heritage and in this book he finally seems to have come to the end of it, with his appearance changing and his actions becoming more Auphe-like. But that isn't where this book is gut-wrenching. It is Robin Goodfellow's point of view where you find out the depth of this eons long friendship and what lengths he will go to to keep the brothers alive. The pain he has faced in the past and his desperation for the only friends he has in his millennia of years. I cried, nay, I sobbed. I had tears and snot running down my face and I could barely read the words I was sobbing so hard.
But much as this book had its moments of pathos, it also had the trademark snarky humour that has made this series so memorable for me. Now that I know certain things I will be rereading the rest of the series very carefully. Just how far ahead has this genius of an author planned this? I would be quite satisfied if this was the last book in the series but will happily read more if they happen. Big deep breaths, now I have to go out and face the real world again, one not populated with Robins, Lupa, Auphe and the Bae. Probably a very good thing.
January 23, 2016
Monsterhunting brothers Cal and Niko have been through a lot - and trouble just won't leave them alone. Now Cal's got Delilah and her Wolves, the organisation of humans calling itself the Vigil and, most importantly, Grimm, the only other half-Auphe remaining in the world, gunning for him. In addition, Cal's Auphe heritage is taking over more and more and the day when he turns full Auphe can't be far off - if he and Niko even survive that long.
Robin Goodfellow, trickster, self-proclaimed sex god and puck extraordinaire, has stood at Cal and Niko's side for over a thousand lifetimes - and watched them die, far too soon, every single time. He's not about to do it again, even if those two seem bound to get themselves killed in short order yet again. Enough is enough... but it's going to take one helluva con to keep those two alive.
For the first time, we get Robin's POV switching off with Cal's, which I absolutely loved since I adore Robin in all his trickster glory. While he spends a lot of time reminiscing about all of their former lives which slows down the pace somewhat at times, I didn't feel bored by those sections as some other readers seemed to. All in all, another great read with a finale that was absolutely spectacular. Looking forward to seeing where the series is headed from here!
Robin Goodfellow, trickster, self-proclaimed sex god and puck extraordinaire, has stood at Cal and Niko's side for over a thousand lifetimes - and watched them die, far too soon, every single time. He's not about to do it again, even if those two seem bound to get themselves killed in short order yet again. Enough is enough... but it's going to take one helluva con to keep those two alive.
For the first time, we get Robin's POV switching off with Cal's, which I absolutely loved since I adore Robin in all his trickster glory. While he spends a lot of time reminiscing about all of their former lives which slows down the pace somewhat at times, I didn't feel bored by those sections as some other readers seemed to. All in all, another great read with a finale that was absolutely spectacular. Looking forward to seeing where the series is headed from here!
August 21, 2014
The latest in the Cal Leandros series, Downfall is flat out amazing. Told from the perspective of both Cal and Robin - the book builds upon a previous revelation. One that gave away just how much and why the brothers matter so much to Robin.
The book is about Cal's fall into Auphe madness as he finally faces Grimm and his Bae offspring. It is the only way to survive, out-Auphe the other half-Auphe. But it takes his toll on him - as everything changes, from his eyes to his hair.
The plot is convoluted, twisted, kept me guessing and worthy of the trickster that Robin is. He could talk anyone into anything. And he does.
I loved the flashbacks. The history lessons. I enjoyed the parts narrated by Robin. His genius is astounding, but even more astounding is the fact that his arrogance is well deserved. That is truly saying something considering how much arrogance he has.
Definitely a great addition to the series. Unpredictable. Awesome.
The book is about Cal's fall into Auphe madness as he finally faces Grimm and his Bae offspring. It is the only way to survive, out-Auphe the other half-Auphe. But it takes his toll on him - as everything changes, from his eyes to his hair.
The plot is convoluted, twisted, kept me guessing and worthy of the trickster that Robin is. He could talk anyone into anything. And he does.
I loved the flashbacks. The history lessons. I enjoyed the parts narrated by Robin. His genius is astounding, but even more astounding is the fact that his arrogance is well deserved. That is truly saying something considering how much arrogance he has.
Definitely a great addition to the series. Unpredictable. Awesome.
September 2, 2014
Niko was practically voiceless in this one, and while it was cool to hear Robin's first person this time, it was strange to have Niko almost in the background. This was good, and I'll read anything Rob Thurman writes, especially Cal and Niko, but somehow this one was a little unsatisfying. Maybe it's the deux ex machina (or is that deux ex puck?) style over and over, although I know that was Robin, not the author copping out.
Also, I don't know if it's just the kindle version, but this one maybe could have used one more run through by an editor. There were lots of awkward sentences I had to read at least twice to hear correctly, unnecessary repetitions, and even flat out errors.
Also, I don't know if it's just the kindle version, but this one maybe could have used one more run through by an editor. There were lots of awkward sentences I had to read at least twice to hear correctly, unnecessary repetitions, and even flat out errors.
August 20, 2014
I really do love these books. The characters, the premise, the action, the world building- all great!
So why the three stars?
Honestly, the grammatical errors are appalling. So much should have been caught at the copyediting stage. Even the sentence structure needed some work. I didn't feel like I was reading a published novel. It read much more like fan fic. It's also getting INCREDIBLY repetitive. Yes, the brothers will die for each other. Mmmm-hmmm. I did read the first eight books. I am aware. I didn't need to be told nine or ten times in this book. SHOW DON'T TELL.
So why the three stars?
Honestly, the grammatical errors are appalling. So much should have been caught at the copyediting stage. Even the sentence structure needed some work. I didn't feel like I was reading a published novel. It read much more like fan fic. It's also getting INCREDIBLY repetitive. Yes, the brothers will die for each other. Mmmm-hmmm. I did read the first eight books. I am aware. I didn't need to be told nine or ten times in this book. SHOW DON'T TELL.
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