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Her Norman Conqueror
Aleene has vowed never to enter into a forced marriage with the vile pawn who threatens to usurp power over her beloved Seabreeze Castle. But she never expected rescue could come in the virile form of a poacher roaming the estate. In a rebellious act she marries this man. Yet how could Aleene ever have known that the unexpected passion joining her with Cynewulf, her husband, will lead her into a more treacherous game.
384 pages, Kindle Edition
First published August 1, 1998
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Malia Martin
4 books9 followersRaised on Hawaii, Malia Martin grew up listening to stories rich in culture and history. From the moment she could read and write she has been doing both in great abundance. She majored in English just so she could read her way through college. And she married a man who loves to cook and can do his own ironing so she could spend every spare moment writing. When the children came she found that the hours she spent pushing swings, watching ballet classes and driving carpools lent themselves marvelously well to plotting.
Malia now lives in California with her three small children and extremely supportive husband. When she is not reading, writing or plotting, she loves to ski, play tennis and take her children to the beach.
Malia now lives in California with her three small children and extremely supportive husband. When she is not reading, writing or plotting, she loves to ski, play tennis and take her children to the beach.
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April 8, 2014
Warning: Spoilers and GIFs ahead.
Perhaps once in a lifetime (or a million times in a lifetime if you're BAVR), you will read a book that is EVERYTHING it shouldn't be and still keeps you invested. It will be a hot mess of craziness and frustration, yet you will cherish it, not in spite of its faults but BECAUSE of them. And once you are finished reading and give it 4 stars on Goodreads, you will think, "I can't think of one person I would recommend this to, but fuck it, I REGRET NOTHING."
Her Norman Conqueror is that book.
It's funny. Genuinely funny. The comedy may be unintentional, but don't pretend it wouldn't make you LOL when dumb as rocks moo Aleene takes a husband she thinks is "simple and mute" and tries to make a baby with him.
To love or not to love?
Yeah, I'm going with LOVE.
THE STORY:
Her Norman Conqueror takes place in the 11th century before, during, and after William the Conqueror's arrival in England. Aleene, our heroine, owns the fancifully named Seabreeze Castle ("SEABREEEEEZZZEE! <-- This is for Sarah.) and is desperate to save it from falling into the hands of her lecherous step-brother, Aethregard, through their impending marriage. Despite being ordered by King Harold and her now deceased rapey step-father, Aleene refuses to be conquered by ANY man. So she does the practical thing and marries some stranger who was arrested in her woods for poaching. The poacher has no name because he doesn't fucking talk, and she just assumes that he's a boy living in a man's body. Aleene dubs him Lord Cynewulf (Cyne for short) and decides that they must make babies to save Seabreeze before the king or Aethregard can return and order the marriage annulled.
But things, as in all great stories, are not what they appear. After a chapter of reading, it's clear that Cyne is not a mute poacher who doesn't know any better than to let the weird lady try to teach him to eat and wash his hands, but Aleene doesn't know that. And Cyne trolls the fuck out of her because of it. There are scenes and scenes of Aleene dragging him around the castle like a pet, reminding him to swallow his food and mind his manners, and Cyne is just snooping into everything.
At one point, she takes him to the steward's office, and the scene basically goes like this:
ALEENE: OMG, look at Cyne holding that book! Isn't he adorbs?
CYNE: *holds book upside down and smiles vacantly*
STEWARD: Should he really be touching that?
ALEENE: Don't be ridiculous. (Whispers) He can't read.
CYNE: *drops a book containing top secrets and takes ten minutes to gather it up*
ALEENE: Cyne, my handsome, golden, beautiful boy, I hope you remembered to wipe the boar grease off of your hands after lunch.
I'm not saying that Aleene is stupid.
Okay, I'm totally saying that Aleene is stupid.
She makes it incredibly easy for Cyne to betray her. In turn, it's kind of hard to feel sorry for her when it's revealed that Cyne can talk, and he's a Norman spy named Robert. But the love they shared, he insists, was totally real.
Romance.
Unfortunately, because Robert has taken possession of Aleene's castle through their marriage and pretty much turned her into an unwitting traitor to her king and country, his overtures go over about as well as a porno in church. BECAUSE ALEENE WILL NOT TOLERATE NORMAN SCUM IN HER BED. SHE WON'T SHE WON'T SHE WON'T. And thus begins the kind of love story I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.
THE CHARACTERS:
Aleene
Okay, so I'll admit that Aleene has problems. Her father was a Spaniard, so she thinks everyone hates her because of her dark features, and her step-father molested her for years right under her mom's nose. Now she finally has Seabreeze Castle, but no one likes her, and that might be something she could fix if she didn't walk around with a giant chip on her shoulder and do stupid things. For entertainment value alone, though, Aleene is a fucking goldmine.
When she tries to consummate her marriage with an unconscious Cyne on their wedding night:
With a violent shudder, Aleene turned her husband's hand toward her, spreading the long fingers wide and fitting the palm over the mound of her breast. Closing her eyes, she let go of his hand.
It flopped back to his side.
When she starts to enjoy foreplay but suddenly freaks out at the thought of sex:
A cry of sheer agony pierced her ears, and she realized it came from her.
When she murders innocent flowers for - I don't know - being a sweet gesture from Cyne and fucking up her malaise?
With a wrenching cry, she crushed the flower in her hand, threw it to the ground, and turned, running from the garden and Cyne.
When she sees Cyne's method of getting messages back to William in Normandy and thinks it's just adorbs:
Aleene sighed and followed his gaze to see a pigeon swoop down, circle over their heads, then head across the cliffs and out to sea. Aleene stared at it, puzzled. "Where on earth does that bird think it is going, France?"
When she learns of Robert's betrayal and becomes the most vicious thorn in his side ever:
All thoughts of sensual bliss left his mind immediately with the pain that sliced through his tongue when her teeth clamped down.
Aleene lives on her outrage, but the best part about it is that she makes all of the bad stuff happen in the first place. Robert barely had to do anything when he was just scouting out the land. She basically abducts him and forces him to marry her. IT ISN'T EVEN PART OF HIS PLAN. And she's so bull-headed that she won't allow herself (or anyone else) to be happy because she's ashamed of the part she plays in William the Conqueror's victory. She fucks Robert before he goes off to battle, prays for him during the fighting, and then decides that she HATES EVERYTHING when Harold is killed by William because she prayed for Robert instead of her king. Aleene is the closest a character has come to becoming a Johanna Lindsey heroine without actually being a Johanna Lindsey heroine.
And she totally acts like Alan Rickman as the Sheriff of Nottingham on her wedding day.
Which is basically perfection.
Cyne/Robert
After conning the daylights out of his wife, Robert's first word is "Aleene!" As history's first troll, Cyne is the book's MVP. That sneaky, silent bastard means the world to me. Robert has the patience of a saint later on in the story. Aleene lashes out at him constantly, and he takes it like a champ even though he KNOWS that the woman is 100% the worst. At one point, Aleene is running off to tattle on her husband to King Harold, and Robert worries for a little while about her getting raped and murdered by wandering men if she goes without him like she insists. After being abused by her for a chapter or so, he thinks the truest thing in the entire book:
No man would have the patience to stick around and keep trying to do anything to such a shrew.
If I ran into Aleene in the wild, I would most definitely run the other way. I'm not a glutton for punishment.
According to Aleene's numerous internal monologues about Cyne/Robert's looks, he's incredibly handsome. Just the most beautiful, long golden-haired, blue-eyed piece of meat since the last Fabio cover. Despite trying to imagine Cyne/Robert as someone, anyone else (because he's the best, and I wanted him to LOOK the best), my mind will only think of him like this:
Fucking John Smith was my least favorite Disney hero, damn it. Thanks for screwing that up with your 40 billion description, Aleene.
THE SEX:
Once Aleene stops freaking out and curling up in the fetal position every time she thinks about Robert's peen in her vag, they have typical HR sex. The first attempted love scene would probably be attempted marital rape if I didn't have the feeling Cyne/Robert was awake the whole time and having all the LOLZ about it.
THE WRITING:
Any author who manages to smush fucking Aleene together with Cyne/Robert in a happy ending deserves BAVR's accolades. The prose is really purple at points, but I ignored that because I was entertained.
In short, don't read Her Norman Conqueror because you want to read something excellent. Read it because you want to witness history's first troll and the heroine who makes loving her a Herculean feat. Some treasures aren't at all what you think they should be.
"Her Norman Conqueror" is a part of my Care-Package-Ageddon series of book reviews in gratitude to my GR friend Karla for sending me a GIANT BOX O'BOOKS. She said I "might" like some of them. o_O
Perhaps once in a lifetime (or a million times in a lifetime if you're BAVR), you will read a book that is EVERYTHING it shouldn't be and still keeps you invested. It will be a hot mess of craziness and frustration, yet you will cherish it, not in spite of its faults but BECAUSE of them. And once you are finished reading and give it 4 stars on Goodreads, you will think, "I can't think of one person I would recommend this to, but fuck it, I REGRET NOTHING."
Her Norman Conqueror is that book.
It's funny. Genuinely funny. The comedy may be unintentional, but don't pretend it wouldn't make you LOL when dumb as rocks moo Aleene takes a husband she thinks is "simple and mute" and tries to make a baby with him.
"We must make a babe, my lord. You must touch my breast, become hard and go inside me."
Cyne choked, then coughed, then seemed to do both at once.
Aleene quickly let go of his hand and patted his back. "Are you all right? Did you still have food in your mouth?"
To love or not to love?
Yeah, I'm going with LOVE.
THE STORY:
Her Norman Conqueror takes place in the 11th century before, during, and after William the Conqueror's arrival in England. Aleene, our heroine, owns the fancifully named Seabreeze Castle ("SEABREEEEEZZZEE! <-- This is for Sarah.) and is desperate to save it from falling into the hands of her lecherous step-brother, Aethregard, through their impending marriage. Despite being ordered by King Harold and her now deceased rapey step-father, Aleene refuses to be conquered by ANY man. So she does the practical thing and marries some stranger who was arrested in her woods for poaching. The poacher has no name because he doesn't fucking talk, and she just assumes that he's a boy living in a man's body. Aleene dubs him Lord Cynewulf (Cyne for short) and decides that they must make babies to save Seabreeze before the king or Aethregard can return and order the marriage annulled.
But things, as in all great stories, are not what they appear. After a chapter of reading, it's clear that Cyne is not a mute poacher who doesn't know any better than to let the weird lady try to teach him to eat and wash his hands, but Aleene doesn't know that. And Cyne trolls the fuck out of her because of it. There are scenes and scenes of Aleene dragging him around the castle like a pet, reminding him to swallow his food and mind his manners, and Cyne is just snooping into everything.
At one point, she takes him to the steward's office, and the scene basically goes like this:
ALEENE: OMG, look at Cyne holding that book! Isn't he adorbs?
CYNE: *holds book upside down and smiles vacantly*
STEWARD: Should he really be touching that?
ALEENE: Don't be ridiculous. (Whispers) He can't read.
CYNE: *drops a book containing top secrets and takes ten minutes to gather it up*
ALEENE: Cyne, my handsome, golden, beautiful boy, I hope you remembered to wipe the boar grease off of your hands after lunch.
I'm not saying that Aleene is stupid.
Okay, I'm totally saying that Aleene is stupid.
She makes it incredibly easy for Cyne to betray her. In turn, it's kind of hard to feel sorry for her when it's revealed that Cyne can talk, and he's a Norman spy named Robert. But the love they shared, he insists, was totally real.
Romance.
Unfortunately, because Robert has taken possession of Aleene's castle through their marriage and pretty much turned her into an unwitting traitor to her king and country, his overtures go over about as well as a porno in church. BECAUSE ALEENE WILL NOT TOLERATE NORMAN SCUM IN HER BED. SHE WON'T SHE WON'T SHE WON'T. And thus begins the kind of love story I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.
THE CHARACTERS:
Aleene
Okay, so I'll admit that Aleene has problems. Her father was a Spaniard, so she thinks everyone hates her because of her dark features, and her step-father molested her for years right under her mom's nose. Now she finally has Seabreeze Castle, but no one likes her, and that might be something she could fix if she didn't walk around with a giant chip on her shoulder and do stupid things. For entertainment value alone, though, Aleene is a fucking goldmine.
When she tries to consummate her marriage with an unconscious Cyne on their wedding night:
With a violent shudder, Aleene turned her husband's hand toward her, spreading the long fingers wide and fitting the palm over the mound of her breast. Closing her eyes, she let go of his hand.
It flopped back to his side.
When she starts to enjoy foreplay but suddenly freaks out at the thought of sex:
A cry of sheer agony pierced her ears, and she realized it came from her.
When she murders innocent flowers for - I don't know - being a sweet gesture from Cyne and fucking up her malaise?
With a wrenching cry, she crushed the flower in her hand, threw it to the ground, and turned, running from the garden and Cyne.
When she sees Cyne's method of getting messages back to William in Normandy and thinks it's just adorbs:
Aleene sighed and followed his gaze to see a pigeon swoop down, circle over their heads, then head across the cliffs and out to sea. Aleene stared at it, puzzled. "Where on earth does that bird think it is going, France?"
When she learns of Robert's betrayal and becomes the most vicious thorn in his side ever:
All thoughts of sensual bliss left his mind immediately with the pain that sliced through his tongue when her teeth clamped down.
Aleene lives on her outrage, but the best part about it is that she makes all of the bad stuff happen in the first place. Robert barely had to do anything when he was just scouting out the land. She basically abducts him and forces him to marry her. IT ISN'T EVEN PART OF HIS PLAN. And she's so bull-headed that she won't allow herself (or anyone else) to be happy because she's ashamed of the part she plays in William the Conqueror's victory. She fucks Robert before he goes off to battle, prays for him during the fighting, and then decides that she HATES EVERYTHING when Harold is killed by William because she prayed for Robert instead of her king. Aleene is the closest a character has come to becoming a Johanna Lindsey heroine without actually being a Johanna Lindsey heroine.
And she totally acts like Alan Rickman as the Sheriff of Nottingham on her wedding day.
Which is basically perfection.
Cyne/Robert
After conning the daylights out of his wife, Robert's first word is "Aleene!" As history's first troll, Cyne is the book's MVP. That sneaky, silent bastard means the world to me. Robert has the patience of a saint later on in the story. Aleene lashes out at him constantly, and he takes it like a champ even though he KNOWS that the woman is 100% the worst. At one point, Aleene is running off to tattle on her husband to King Harold, and Robert worries for a little while about her getting raped and murdered by wandering men if she goes without him like she insists. After being abused by her for a chapter or so, he thinks the truest thing in the entire book:
No man would have the patience to stick around and keep trying to do anything to such a shrew.
If I ran into Aleene in the wild, I would most definitely run the other way. I'm not a glutton for punishment.
According to Aleene's numerous internal monologues about Cyne/Robert's looks, he's incredibly handsome. Just the most beautiful, long golden-haired, blue-eyed piece of meat since the last Fabio cover. Despite trying to imagine Cyne/Robert as someone, anyone else (because he's the best, and I wanted him to LOOK the best), my mind will only think of him like this:
Fucking John Smith was my least favorite Disney hero, damn it. Thanks for screwing that up with your 40 billion description, Aleene.
THE SEX:
Once Aleene stops freaking out and curling up in the fetal position every time she thinks about Robert's peen in her vag, they have typical HR sex. The first attempted love scene would probably be attempted marital rape if I didn't have the feeling Cyne/Robert was awake the whole time and having all the LOLZ about it.
THE WRITING:
Any author who manages to smush fucking Aleene together with Cyne/Robert in a happy ending deserves BAVR's accolades. The prose is really purple at points, but I ignored that because I was entertained.
In short, don't read Her Norman Conqueror because you want to read something excellent. Read it because you want to witness history's first troll and the heroine who makes loving her a Herculean feat. Some treasures aren't at all what you think they should be.
"Her Norman Conqueror" is a part of my Care-Package-Ageddon series of book reviews in gratitude to my GR friend Karla for sending me a GIANT BOX O'BOOKS. She said I "might" like some of them. o_O
March 23, 2015
This was a unique take on the Norman Conquest romance. Several are among my favorites, even though they are blatant bodice rippers and probably questionable on historical accuracy. I don't care. I like them.
The general plot of those novels is the Norman hero is granted the Saxon lady's castle by William for services rendered. Often he marries the resentful maiden to secure his position with the people or sometimes she's a commoner he keeps as a slave/mistress, etc. They definitely appeal to the kink of captive/captor, conqueror/conquered romance.
This was different as I mentioned.
The heroine's step father had recently passed away and she was left as mistress of the keep, which was traditionally a dower land passed down through the female line of her family. However, her step father had gotten King Harold to agree to a betrothal agreement between her and his son to keep the lands in his family.
She is 18 when the book opens, but the betrothal agreement oddly stipulates she not marry until she's 21 - pretty old bride for those days. But, once her step father dies, her step brother goes to the King and he agrees that is a weird stipulation and decrees the marriage proceed.
TRIGGER WARNING FOR RAPE/CHILD ABUSE:
The hero was a spy sent ahead by William in preparation for the invasion. He'd been hiding out in the woods and was caught poaching and brought to the heroine to pass judgement on him. Of course this was all his plan to scope out the castle, etc. He didn't say one word and it was assumed he was 'simple'. The heroine came up with an impetuous plan to marry the 'simpleton' and that way she'd be safe from a domineering male and keep control of her castle. This works out perfectly for the H since he'll be able to spy from the inside.
I expected this to be played for laughs with the H acting the part of fool. It really wasn't like that. It was actually kind of sad how she became so attached to this big, silent man who was very gentle with her and didn't push her for sex - which terrified her. She'd been unable to consummate the marriage due to flashbacks even though she desperately needed an heir to secure her position.
Anyway, of course the truth eventually comes out and she feels extremely betrayed. It was obvious that the H had fallen in love with her and felt guilty for deceiving her. He also rethinks his original goals of wanting land and power at any cost and doesn't want her keep if he can't have her love. She had also fallen in love with him, but there were still her sexual issues to deal with and it's all very heartbreaking and I can't stand to hear of anyone harming a child. It boils my blood to even think about it while writing this review.
The rest of the novel is filled with intrigue from the invasion and the hero attempting to break through the h's barriers to build trust and a happy life with her. Lots of appearances by big players such as William and King Harold and not sure of all the historical accuracy. But, the love story was quite nice and the hero was by no means the typical conquering brute. However, the subject matter of what happened to her and her issues were far to disturbing/depressing/heartbreaking for my full enjoyment. YMMV.
The general plot of those novels is the Norman hero is granted the Saxon lady's castle by William for services rendered. Often he marries the resentful maiden to secure his position with the people or sometimes she's a commoner he keeps as a slave/mistress, etc. They definitely appeal to the kink of captive/captor, conqueror/conquered romance.
This was different as I mentioned.
The heroine's step father had recently passed away and she was left as mistress of the keep, which was traditionally a dower land passed down through the female line of her family. However, her step father had gotten King Harold to agree to a betrothal agreement between her and his son to keep the lands in his family.
She is 18 when the book opens, but the betrothal agreement oddly stipulates she not marry until she's 21 - pretty old bride for those days. But, once her step father dies, her step brother goes to the King and he agrees that is a weird stipulation and decrees the marriage proceed.
TRIGGER WARNING FOR RAPE/CHILD ABUSE:
The hero was a spy sent ahead by William in preparation for the invasion. He'd been hiding out in the woods and was caught poaching and brought to the heroine to pass judgement on him. Of course this was all his plan to scope out the castle, etc. He didn't say one word and it was assumed he was 'simple'. The heroine came up with an impetuous plan to marry the 'simpleton' and that way she'd be safe from a domineering male and keep control of her castle. This works out perfectly for the H since he'll be able to spy from the inside.
I expected this to be played for laughs with the H acting the part of fool. It really wasn't like that. It was actually kind of sad how she became so attached to this big, silent man who was very gentle with her and didn't push her for sex - which terrified her. She'd been unable to consummate the marriage due to flashbacks even though she desperately needed an heir to secure her position.
Anyway, of course the truth eventually comes out and she feels extremely betrayed. It was obvious that the H had fallen in love with her and felt guilty for deceiving her. He also rethinks his original goals of wanting land and power at any cost and doesn't want her keep if he can't have her love. She had also fallen in love with him, but there were still her sexual issues to deal with and it's all very heartbreaking and I can't stand to hear of anyone harming a child. It boils my blood to even think about it while writing this review.
The rest of the novel is filled with intrigue from the invasion and the hero attempting to break through the h's barriers to build trust and a happy life with her. Lots of appearances by big players such as William and King Harold and not sure of all the historical accuracy. But, the love story was quite nice and the hero was by no means the typical conquering brute. However, the subject matter of what happened to her and her issues were far to disturbing/depressing/heartbreaking for my full enjoyment. YMMV.
maybe
May 10, 2023Self note
Spoilers
Triggering.
- h has fear of sex and men. Her stepfathers been molesting and raping her since 7-8yrs old.
- H in disguise.
Spoilers
Triggering.
- h has fear of sex and men. Her stepfathers been molesting and raping her since 7-8yrs old.
- H in disguise.
December 29, 2007
Her Norman Conqueror - G+
Martin, Malia
Aleene has steadfastly vowed never to enter into a forced marriage with the vile pawn who threatens to usurp power over her beloved Seabreeze Castle. But she never expected rescue could come in the virile form of a poacher caught roaming the estate. In one rash, rebellious act she marries this man.
But once the wedding vows are said, Alene begins to see Cynewulf, her husband, in all his golden splendor. With his mane of sun-drenched locks, Cynewulf is breathtakingly handsome and his hands work magic on her in ways she never believed possible. Yet how could Aleene ever have known that the unexpected passion joining her with this man, who she has come to know as her soul mate, will lead her into a more treacherous game...one she can only win through the power of an all-encompassing love?
Definitely better than a good read.
Martin, Malia
Aleene has steadfastly vowed never to enter into a forced marriage with the vile pawn who threatens to usurp power over her beloved Seabreeze Castle. But she never expected rescue could come in the virile form of a poacher caught roaming the estate. In one rash, rebellious act she marries this man.
But once the wedding vows are said, Alene begins to see Cynewulf, her husband, in all his golden splendor. With his mane of sun-drenched locks, Cynewulf is breathtakingly handsome and his hands work magic on her in ways she never believed possible. Yet how could Aleene ever have known that the unexpected passion joining her with this man, who she has come to know as her soul mate, will lead her into a more treacherous game...one she can only win through the power of an all-encompassing love?
Definitely better than a good read.
January 1, 2018
I really enjoyed this book; however, it did lose a star for me personally due to how some things were handled. The female lead frustrated me at times even though I understood fully where she was coming from. I really enjoyed the male lead's personality all the way through. How he wasn't the cruel alpha found in a good handful of historical romances was a refreshing turn.
I would definitely recommend this to other lovers of historical romance who are looking for something that feels a little different. Also for those who look for a gentle male lead versus the harder ones more shaped by the time period of 'men over women'.
I would definitely recommend this to other lovers of historical romance who are looking for something that feels a little different. Also for those who look for a gentle male lead versus the harder ones more shaped by the time period of 'men over women'.
August 23, 2021
Push and pull and the agony was amazing!
March 23, 2015
Aleene, a survivor of sexual abuse, marries a simpleton and begins to... sexually abuse him. O_o
She wants to avoid getting married by... getting married. O_o
Over the span of a few days Aleene finds herself falling in love with her mentally challenged husband, even though he's never said a word to her. (Then again that's most husbands so I may just let that one slide.)
But of course the simple husband is really a French Norman come to spy out the land for William the Bastard. (How lucky that every single French Norman speaks English fluently.) With the Normans launching their invasion from her home of Seabreeze, Aleene flees to go warn somebody. This introduces us to Edith, King Harold's handfasted wife and the only character I cared about. I'd read the hell out of Edith's story, but alas she exits the stage after the Battle of Hastings. The last section of the book simply drags as Aleene throws the Sulk To End All Sulks. Her husband, Robert, is only slightly more appealing than Aleene, although he's still the wussiest Norman conqueror I've ever read.
She wants to avoid getting married by... getting married. O_o
Over the span of a few days Aleene finds herself falling in love with her mentally challenged husband, even though he's never said a word to her. (Then again that's most husbands so I may just let that one slide.)
But of course the simple husband is really a French Norman come to spy out the land for William the Bastard. (How lucky that every single French Norman speaks English fluently.) With the Normans launching their invasion from her home of Seabreeze, Aleene flees to go warn somebody. This introduces us to Edith, King Harold's handfasted wife and the only character I cared about. I'd read the hell out of Edith's story, but alas she exits the stage after the Battle of Hastings. The last section of the book simply drags as Aleene throws the Sulk To End All Sulks. Her husband, Robert, is only slightly more appealing than Aleene, although he's still the wussiest Norman conqueror I've ever read.
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