“Death of the Family” part 5, the shocking conclusion to the Bat-Family epic. Who lives? Who dies? Who laughs last? Find out as Batman and The Joker face off one last time!
Scott Snyder is the Eisner and Harvey Award winning writer on DC Comics Batman, Swamp Thing, and his original series for Vertigo, American Vampire. He is also the author of the short story collection, Voodoo Heart, published by the Dial Press in 2006. The paperback version was published in the summer of 2007.
They will never trust him to the same extent again, the joker doesn't know who he is, who they are, he just doesn't give a fuck. It will ruin his game, and its just so much fun for him to ruin it by knowing who the batman is. Sadly while reading these stories i am so forgetful, i don't know why its happening but i read the story and i forget it. Sometimes even before i reach its end, and its really annoying. So the joker has batman strapped to a chair, if he gets up the whole room will burn, and all his team are strapped to their chairs, so they will burn if he gets up. He gets up he saves them the joker escapes, but the two headed lion was bobby trapped, and they all get afflicted with some kind of gas, that make them all look like the joker, and make them insane. Batman runs after the joker, they fight the joker falls end of story. That's all i remember and its much better actually than last story, which i thought i would need to read again but i am too lazy.
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This issue concluded an intense story perfectly orchestrated by writer Scott Snyder. There were tie-ins that further expanded Death of the Family, but I'm already satisfied with the main story as it appeared in Batman issues 13 to 17. It had several tie-ins but this was the chapter everything collapsed into. The back-up stories were also very good, especially Jock's art.
Overall, a disturbing story that used the villain very well and brought some lasting changes to a character that has been in publication for eight decades.
Here's the thing: It's easy to start a great Joker story. It's harder to sustain it over multiple issues; and it's near impossible to end one well or with satisfaction. The only people, in my opinion, who've managed to do all three with satisfaction are Bill Finger, Len Wein and in The Animated Series, Paul Dini.
This seemed rushed. I think if Snyder was given two or three more issues to play out the story, it would have worked better. It's not bad, it's just Joker and even though he seems to fans like the easiest villain to write, he's not. It's a good run and one that changes the character, but mostly it's a springboard for other writers to use in future stories. On to the next chapter.
And so ends another epic crossover in DC Universe as Scott Snyder finally wraps up Death of the Family and then immediately deals with the fallout from Grant Morrison’s Batman, Inc #8. Scott Snyder’s current run on Batman has been the undisputed champion of New 52, truly showing off how a change in scenery (i.e reboot) can transform a title and take it to new heights. This is backed up by the fact that Batman has been a top-3 selling DC title since the relaunch and continues to make headway on that front.
However, Death of the Family has also shown what happens when one writer is saddled with the responsibility of bringing a major crossover such as this one to a conclusion, especially when said conclusion involves five characters from an equal number of titles. What Scott Snyder has done beyond the shadow of a doubt is portray the Joker as a true agent of chaos. If you thought that Heath Ledger’s mind-bending performance was something, then you will find Snyder’s characterisation no less impressive. Across any of the comics I’ve read to date, Joker is a character who truly shocks you and then laughs at you. The guy is messed up and he is plain insane. Scott Snyder has made Joker into a clown you would never want to mess with, he’s made him into what I would call “Gothic Joker”, matching the tone of the entire ongoing title perfectly. Joker is no longer someone who appears campy or humourous, now he is truly terrifying.
Batman too has gone through some major changes in the crossover. Snyder has carried on looking at him is a character who is flawed and sympathetic in ways you would not expect. In one of the previous issues, it was revealed that [SPOILER] Joker knew the identities of each and every Bat-verse superhero. It was also revealed just how he managed to find it all about. Issues #16 and #17 deal with the entire fallout of that revelation, and this is what leads to the name of the crossover itself. Death of the Family is the story of the entire extended Wayne family as a true family. Joker has sown chaos throughout, and it is really interesting to see how each and every character is affected, and how that affect butterflies back to Bruce Wayne aka Batman himself, turning him into the character he is by the end of #17, which is very, very different than who/what we see in #1.
My praise for the work aside, I do have some complaints as well. Batman #17 is the ultimate issue in the crossover, and I must confess that I feel it did not deliver on the successful conclusion I wanted from it. Third and fourth readings of the issue have raised its value in my esteem, but I still feel that Snyder & Co could have done a better job of it. Most specifically, where the previous issues had been about the entire family, this one is focused much more on Batman himself. Events spiral off him, but still, the issue focused too much on him, and I wish that the others had gotten some action time in as well.
Where Batman #18 is concerned, my biggest complaint with the issue is that there is clarifiable passage of time between it and #17. The issue comes after Damian Wayne’s death in Batman, Inc #8, and I found it frustrating that the reader was not given an explanation of how “soon” after these two events the issue is set. It could have been the next day, or the next week, or the next month. Allusions are made, but no actual quantifiable time. That aside, this was a fairly decent issue. I wasn’t too emotionally vested in what was going on, since the main event happened in a title that I’m not reading, so I wasn’t the proper “target” for the issue, which might have something to do with my lack of excitement with it. Still, the future looks interesting for Batman and I’m excited about what is to come. My one suggestion to the creative team, especially Snyder, would be that it is time to tell some smaller stories, 2-3 issue arcs at the most. Crossovers are kind of a pain in the butt, and I’m getting somewhat tired of DC’s constant crossovers in New 52. There should be a step back to consider where the title needs to go on its own merits, without being supported by others.
Greg Capullo is the penciller on the title is just amazing. Everything he does, its like it was done by magic. He is a genius in the medium. I really have zero complaints about his work on Batman, especially the gobsmackingly good covers he’s done. When I heard last week that Capullo had signed a new contract with DC wherein he was the artist on Batman (exclusively) for as long as he wanted, I was thrilled. Well played, and well deserved. Andy Kubert stepped in for #18 and while his pencils are quite different from those of Capullo, I enjoyed them for the most part. Harper Row is the only element of the book that I did not like, in terms of the art, and that’s a shame, given how she was handled by Becky Cloonan on #12, so there’s that. The entire team of artists who have worked on these three issues have done a great job (barring a few things here and there), and they have kept Batman a consistently great visual treat, which is what I wanted from it anyway.
If not for the story (which is fairly good by the way), definitely check out Batman for the amazing art.
Death of the Family was marketed as the most exciting and best Joker story yet which actually hurts its chances to survive and be appreciated as its own story, really. The hype built around it will mislead readers who tend to have overblown expectations. So I suggest you adjust your expectations and don't expect this to be an instant classic or whatever it is being marketed as. It's not. But it's still a very enjoyable read.
The entire point of the Joker's massively tormented (and, may I add, drawn out) return is to destroy the family that has made Batman weak because they humanized him. The Joker strongly believes that such relationships had reduced Batman into an ordinary and fallible man, and since the Joker's vanity is centered around the fact that he is unique and his nemesis is exactly as that too; and they are locked into an eternal battle of will and wits forever and ever (it's worth noting that there are lots of accidental homoerotic layers to the way the Joker pines over the Batman in Snyder's narrative framework), he thinks he's actually doing Batman a favor by eliminating his surrogate children and own son and heir. It makes perfect sense for the Joker to be this possessive and entitled to Batman. There's something vaguely pitiful about it too.
The seventeenth issue, Death of the Family was personally satisfying if you focus on the echoing thematic dissonance between the Batman and the Joker as the dichotomy that they've always been: order and chaos; and placing that in a more humanistic context where they are more than just mere concepts but also people who are afraid to own up and face the flaws of their humanity and how much they have alienated and often damaged the few people who are important to them.
There is that poignant scene where Batman threatens to reveal to the Joker his real identity and the Joker actually flats-out refuses. That for me was a significant look at how the Joker wants to operate; he desperately wants to cut himself off from any kind of humanity including his own, but there is loneliness to that so it would be comforting for him to know that Batman will do the same as well, considering the only lasting and meaningful connection he ever had was with the Dark Knight.
During the run and the conclusion of this storyline, I believe Snyder wanted to reveal just how much Batman and the Joker are intrinsically tied to one another. This for me is also a major milestone among Batman and his children and I'm interested to see how it plays out for everyone concerned since they basically just endured another traumatic event that should re-define their relationships.
RECOMMENDED OVERALL: 8/10
* The focal point of this saga is to establish the begrudgingly co-dependent relationship between Batman and the Joker, and how it ultimately affects everyone in Batman's inner circle.
Really? THAT'S it? All the hype surrounding Death of the Family and all the tension that something really consequential might happen? And it's all just a joke? It does kinda change how one might view the Joker, but really?! It's a heck of a good thing I didn't read every single tie-in issue, because this really felt underwhelming.
this storyline comes to a close, but man was it entertaining. JOKER TRICKS EVERYONE INTO THINKING HE CUT OFF EVERYONES FACES AND WAS GOING TO FEED IT TO THEM WTF. He didn’t though. Batman battles Joker, and presumably he falls to is death. “Ha”
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That ending was.... I don't know how to describe it. The joker is just the most creepy, disturbed psychopath I've ever read about. The "great dinner" he organized for "his king", the court, the big joke. Death of the family is one of the best I've read.
If I could sum up all my expectations on the conclusion of "Death of the Family" it would be "disappointing". Issue #17 itself was good, but as the conclusion of a such great story was bad. When issue #16 came out it let us eager for more !
For all these months Death of a Family brought tension, expectations, curiosity and surprises. It really drove all the fans wondering "what will happen" as the "how is happening" unrolls through the Batfranchise.
After Batman #16 the ending was so promising the set this Arc as one of the most notable Joker's stories ever. All the psycho-hate-revenge-fear plot during Batgirl comics and all the malicious and wise plans to knock down the batfamily and kidnap them sowed thoughts of a HUGE revelation and HUGE impact in the Bat-franchise.But in the end...NOTHING HAPPENED ! Nothing really happened.
The great plot after the surprising issue #16 is such a let down : The lunatic Joker who killed dozens of people during the TIE-IN, tried to kill dozens more, built up an ingenious and marvelous scheme and targeted the closest people simply developed into a mediocre final:
*SPOILERS* All that fear, all that make-up on the family, all the fake faces in the plates(which he had too much time to make them when cutting them for real would be the fastest ),all the care to wrap up their faces, paint them in red and make them numb and all those plates present in the end of all issues #16 developed into NOTHING. For what ? It meant nothing just like the previous episode of Power Rangers where the monster crushes and burns down countless buildings but no one acknowledges in the current episode.
After all that carnage in the previous issues, he didn't even scratch the batfamily' faces while in the table although seconds later he set them all on fire to die (of course, no one got severed injured ). Such a nice plan to kill them : Have them all the time as hostages (scaring all of us readers) but doing absolutely nothing and then set them on fire in a cave in with, coincidentally, a river flowed exactly above their heads ! Among all the places in the world you could choose to burn people down you go for one with a river above you. WOW !And obviously Batman set himself free, exploded the cave and save everyone. And the gas...oh the gas... a more powerful version of a gas that drove countless people insane was overwhelmed by the force of their will! Words cannot say how frustrating this issue was. Don't take me wrong: Death of the Family is one the best tie-ins I ever had the pleasure to read .But all that hype, all those shocking surprises, all that vision that Joker was more crazy, sinister, one step ahead than everyone else than ever...went down the hill(literally).
The conclusion is Death of the family stays as "one-more-evil-plan-by-the-Joker-that-was-stopped-by-Batman". Not surprisingly, in the final confront he was left in certain uncertain death-situation,valid to anyone but himself, because we all know we'll see him again...Just like all the many countless "one-more-evil-plan-by-the-Joker-that-was-stopped-by-Batman" that we don't remember because nothing special happened.
Just an OK Story. The only doubt left is whether he really knows or doesn't know Bruce as Batman. If he does, I hope it is not that disappoint too. :(
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step back and take a breath. is this a disappointing over-hyped mess of a story that just barely inches us forward? absolutely. but it's a brilliantly executed disappointing over-hyped mess of a story that barely inches us forward.
just had to capture a few thoughts on this for the later inevitable trade.
i had to read this twice and let it sit before i began to appreciate what snyder did with it. is it totally successful? no, unfortunately. but it is gratifying on a number of levels.
continuity problems and way too baggage notwithstanding, the essence of the story between the joker and batman is a little bit brilliant. part of that is 70+ years of history between them, but it's also snyder's willingness to use that history to give us an unambiguous look at the whacked out love affair these two have with one another. that this all boils down to a battle of identity is pretty gutsy.
my only question, really, is why didn't bruce just TELL everyone that in the first place? or did he really not understand it until they were all sitting there around the table? even though joker had been saying as much since the beginning?
so despite some serious flaws, i still enjoyed the heck out of this. loses a star, however, for not pushing quite far enough in the direction i felt set up for. while i very much like that the finale turns out to be a strangely intimate moment, rather than two dozen cross-overs preceding it, this should have had a triple-issue finale that could have given the characters more room to hit an operatic pitch. but that's a quibble, really; this didn't need bombast. that batman brings joker down to his level (in the dark quiet) is a beautiful thing.
Finally, it's over. A conclusion of sorts to one of the greatest arcs of the 80s, thanks to Starlin and Aparo, "Death of the Family" marks the return of the most iconic villain - comic or otherwise. This time, it's Scott Snyder and Greg Capllo who tell the Clown Prince of Crime's story. Overall, the story is solid, yet I'm left with questions at arc's end. Was it really The Joker? (I'm pretty sure it was, but...) The longer he and the Batman interact, the more likely it is that this bromance will end with the death of one...or both.
In Death of the Family, Scott Snyder has been weaving a classic Batman vs. Joker yarn, and it #17 he brings it to a thrilling and disturbing end. Here Batman finally sits down for the dinner Joker has been planning, a party with horrified guests and gruesome entrees. It's a delightfully effed up story that could only come from Scott Snyder, and though I found a few of the details in the ending to be a touch thrown together, it's still a terrific must-read that I highly recommend.
Un poco decepcionante el final, a decir verdad. Supongo que Snyder como el resto de guionistas están atados de pies y manos por DC y no pueden hacer lo que les gustaría. Al final solo quedan destellos de como podrían ser las cosas si los creadores tuvieran libertad creativa.
Overall, not bad. Snyder is a beautiful writer, and I may seek him out some more. The story and Joker's motives are compelling and interesting, there are some things that don't make sense, but with the joker involved that's not necessarily a flaw, and may indeed be design.
Un cierre magistral para la saga Death of the Family. De nuevo, la guerra psicológica entre Batman y el Joker no tiene parangón. Un desenlace épico y un final maestro para otra gran historia del caballero oscuro.