In this land where stories are as much a currency as gold or silver, secrets--the stories you don't tell--also have their price. Nivvy the thief keeps many secrets, having left his home for the Thieves Guild, then having left the Thieves Guild--involuntarily--for a life alone. His fortune changes the day Bella, a mysterious woman in an ancient dress, hires him for a nigh-impossible to steal back the kingdom she claims is her own. If Nivvy is equal to this epic task, surely he will be admitted back to proper disreputability in the Thieves Guild. But Bella has secrets of her own, and her quest is not what it appears to be. As Nivvy uncovers some of the truths behind what he'd dismissed as ancient stories and Bella's improbable connection to those tales, he realizes that this journey is more dangerous than he could have dreamed. If he survives this adventure, merely stealing a kingdom couldn't hold a candle to the rest of the story...
A huge thank you to the author, NetGalley, and Argyll Productions for providing this e-ARC in exchange for an honest review.
This is one of those YA fantasy novels that I like to describe as “perfect for when you’re 13 and 31,” in that, this is timeless and I think this would be a perfect fantasy novel to read, no matter what your age. It can be really hard to find novels like this, where I believe I would have liked it just as much if I had been able to pick it up while I was in middle school, as I do now as an adult reading it. I have very few novels I consider like this - Sabriel by Garth NIx being the biggest one, with A Skinful of Shadows by Frances Hardinge another one with a similar vibe.
We follow a thief named Nivvy, as he unintentionally begins a journey with someone who may or may not be, or will become, an evil Queen. He works with her to help her steal her kingdom back, but along the journey discovers that her success may not be the best thing in the long run - even if it potentially grants him great acclaim as the one who helped her. A large portion of this novel is his growth from focusing on his own selfish interests, to those of helping others, regardless if it benefits him directly.
The magic system in this novel is interesting, as it works by using magical objects - and telling the story of the object. I thought that was an interesting twist, especially given a large portion of this novel is about storytelling and the importance of both telling a story, but also how it is told.
This book also had a really cool concept of people who are turned into animals, but still maintain many of their human abilities, called former-humans. I thought this concept was really cool and interesting, as many fairytales have people being turned into animals - but less focus on how they then continue to live their lives after being changed (or are simply changed back). The concept of these “people” being both a person and an animal at the same time, while still having their autonomy and respect they should be given, was really interesting. When the novel first began, I saw many of these “former-humans” as being worthy of pity and hoped that they would all change back by the end - but as the novel went on, and we saw how many of them were happy and content with their lives, I realized the issue was more complex than simply surface level.
I was honestly a little wary with the 500+ page count, but to be completely honest at no point did the story feel like it dragged or should have been cut short. The journey and character developments of each of the characters worked, and even if not everything was “fixed “ by the end, I would consider this book to still have a happy ending of sorts. This is a kind of YA fantasy with growth and character developments that I would recommend to practically anyone, as I think anyone who likes fantasy would enjoy the journey this novel takes them on.
A truly wonderful epic fantasy populated by three-dimensional, compelling characters. Using European and Middle Eastern folktale elements, The Price of Thorns grabs the reader from the opening pages with the meeting of two terrific characters, Nivvy the thief, and Bella, a strange woman wishing to reclaim the throne she claims to have lost. Though it takes a little bit for the action to ramp up, the writing, characters, and world-building are so good, it doesn’t matter. The tone the author sets manages to be humorous at times, yet always maintains the mythic/folkloric nature of the story.
The weaving of familiar and not-so-familiar fairy tale plots and devices into this original narrative works amazingly well. This is in part because the characters are so memorable and the world is so expertly drawn, but also because the main character, Nivvy (not to mention the unforgettable supporting characters of Zein and Scarlet), has such a dramatic character arc that conveys the novel’s themes so effectively. The system of magic—in which people are sometimes transformed permanently into animals for their sins—is so well thought-out and believable that it becomes an accepted part of this reality. The settings—cities, villages, monasteries, enchanted caves and lakes—come alive in the author's telling.
It's also a story with many keen observations and lessons to offer—about love, greed, selfishness, kindness, acceptance, the importance of stories, becoming who you are, and what it means to sacrifice for others—but never feels preachy or pedantic. It accomplishes all this while engaging the reader in an unforgettable series of adventures all centered around the wounded pride and spitefulness of a thousand-year-old queen, an unforgettable, three-dimensional villain. There's a platonic love story that is so charming and full of heart-rending moments, it’s painful whenever the two characters part.
The appendixes with the full fairy tales mentioned in the story were a great addition (especially the “Tale of Tali’a Ma”), as is the map at the beginning (I love maps in fantasy novels). This is hands down the best fantasy I've read in years, a joy to read. I was sorry when it ended.
Price of Thorns is a fairytale turned on its head. The story focuses on Nivvy, a young thief fallen on hard times who is approached by a woman claiming to need his help to reclaim her kingdom. A fairly straight forward start to a fairytale. However as Nivvy goes on his journey to help Queen Bella, a journey that involves fairies, talking falcons, and drowned cities, the story evolves and becomes more complex and layered than it seemed at first glance.
I enjoyed this story. I thought the magic system that was created (based around remembering and telling the story of a magical item to unlock its power) really helped hight the theme of the cultural importance of stories and how they can shift depending on the audience. Additionally, Nivvy's journey through his own demons and how it parallels the greater story of the queen and her kingdom is really well done. And the friendships that he developed along the way were heartwarming to say the least.
As a neutral note, this book skews quite young in its writing style, plot progression, characters, and character development arcs. If I were classifying this book I would put it firmly in YA rather than adult fantasy. That's not a strike against it, simply an observation. Nivvy is (I think) around 28 in the book, but feels and acts more like a 16-17 year old, with his character arcs feeling more like those of a teenager. Content wise, there is some light references to adult content, but nothing explicit and nothing the characters are actively participating in, so I think a younger audience or those who enjoy YA novels might get more out of this.
For things that are going to be taste based, I would start with recommending that if you're looking for any romance, look elsewhere. This book does feature relationship developments and their importance, but platonically. I love this, but if you're on the market for hot and heavy romance, this isn't the book for you.
Additionally, if you don't enjoy stories where the main characters actions make you want to give them a good shake and ask what they could possibly be thinking, maybe give this one a miss. Nivvy is a very lovable protagonist, and his actions all make a sort of sense in context, but as an outside observer, it's very easy to see the mistakes he's making in real time, and it can be a bit infuriating.
For actual criticisms of the book, I found the pacing a bit off. It has quite a slow start, and if I hadn't put in the effort to push through the first third or so, I really wouldn't have gotten to any of the good stuff. Because the story begins by playing up the fairytale tropes before it starts to play with them, readers may find the first part of the story aggravatingly slow as it seems that our characters are simply going to dance to the prescribed tune. And if you start picking up on the breadcrumbs that will lead to the later plot elements, it can leave you feeling like Nivvy must be the densest, most unobservant (and/or self-involved) protagonist on earth.
All in all a solid (YA) coming of age fantasy story, playing around with fairytale tropes.
i'd like to start thanking NetGalley and the publisher for the copy of this book in exchange for an honest review.
4.25. if i had to describe this book down to its bare essentials, i would say it is like a dark Pixar movie. it has a magical and whimsical feel to it, especially with the talking animals. this book made me realize that, even if this is quite common in animation movies, i wouldn't say it is the same in literature and i really liked the experience.
back to the worldbuilding, i really liked how stories were incorporated to the magic system. it does feel like we're in a huge world and we're just following one of the many stories that have happened and will continue to happen. i also appreciated the conversation about stories, the different interpretations they have and how they can shape us and others.
i also LOVED the characters. they're all complex and interesting. Nivy is just trying his best and really needs to rest a little, he can't just take a break. Zane is my baby, i love how joyful and energetic they are while having realistic thoughts and reactions based on the world they live in. basically, they aren't a child or a "uwu soft bean". i wouldn't say i loved Scarlet nor Bella, but they're both quite interesting and intriguing. and i also liked the queer rep. i wasn't expecting it, but it was appreciated.
my biggest complaint is the pacing. the first 20% was really slow and it wasn't catching my attention. it was bearable, but i couldn't understand what the book was trying to do at that point. it's not like every book has to explain everything about its plot in its first pages, but i still felt like it was going a little bit too slow for my taste. this may also be because english is not my first language, so it takes some time for me to read it and completely understand what's going on.
The Price of Thorns was a fantastic book! It managed to enjoy the nostalgia of my exploration of the YA and fantasy stacks as a kid without feeling like it's any of them in particular. The world-building in particular on this book was really what caught me. Characters are what makes or breaks books for me, and this one does have fantastic characters, but the world here was incredibly compelling as well. It had enough aspects of 'fairy tale' without going overboard on tropes you hear over and over. Highly recommend you check it out!
“The Price of Thorns” by Tim Susman is a captivating fantasy novel that weaves a tale of intrigue, mystery, and adventure in a world where stories hold immense power. The protagonist, Nivvy, is a compelling character—an exiled thief with a penchant for keeping secrets and a desire to reclaim his place in the Thieves Guild. His life takes an unexpected turn when he meets Bella, a woman shrouded in mystery, who tasks him with an almost impossible theft: to reclaim a kingdom she insists is rightfully hers. Susman’s storytelling is masterful, creating a rich and vivid world where stories are as valuable as gold. The narrative is replete with twists and turns, keeping readers on the edge of their seats as they follow Nivvy’s journey. The author skillfully blends elements of traditional fantasy with unique and original concepts, making “The Price of Thorns” a refreshing addition to the genre.
Bella, as a character, adds depth and intrigue to the story. Her secrets and true motivations are slowly unraveled, creating a complex and multi-dimensional character. Nivvy’s relationship with Bella and his quest to uncover the truth behind her claims adds layers of tension and excitement to the story.
One of the most compelling aspects of the book is the theme of stories and their power. Susman explores the idea that stories and the secrets they conceal hold immense influence in this fantastical world. This concept is beautifully interwoven throughout the narrative, adding a philosophical dimension to the adventure.
The pacing of the novel is well-balanced, combining fast-paced action with moments of introspection and character development. Nivvy’s character growth, from a lone thief to a hero embroiled in a quest of epic proportions, is satisfying and believable.
“The Price of Thorns” is a thrilling fantasy adventure that will appeal to fans of the genre who enjoy intricate world-building, complex characters, and a plot that keeps you guessing until the very end. Tim Susman has crafted a story that is not only entertaining but also thought-provoking, exploring the power of stories and the price of keeping secrets.
I really enjoyed my time with The Price of Thorns. The setting is fairly standard fantasy, but the magic system is more unusual - what's left of it is powered/activated by stories, and storytelling is a big part of the world and its inhabitants' lives.
The characters are really fun too. Nivvy goes on much the usual hero's journey, but he's anything but your standard hero. Starting out as a disgraced thief trying to erase his past and start fresh in a new thieves' guild, and then roped into stealing a kingdom, Nivvy really steals the show from the start.
Zein, who appears a little later in the story, was also a favourite.
I don't want to delve too much into spoiler territory, but one thing I really liked about this book was it doesn't just end with "and they lived happily ever after" or something similar. No, the characters here have to keep working for their happy ending after the climax, and it isn't necessarily the ending some of them expected. It was really refreshing.
All in all I'd recommend this one for fantasy fans, it's worth it.
The Price of Thorns is a story about being careful what jobs you take on, and being careful what your intentions to do something are. Is your intention to save the world so that people remember you, or is it to make it a better place people can keep on living in? Characters are almost 100% all human, and the story itself has a very small animal cast. What few anthropomorphism is exhibited by characters in in feral form. Transformation, species and gender identity has their mentions throughout but doesn't otherwise impact the story. The story has no adult scenes, or even implied ones, which makes it suitable to be read by all ages (and can even be faithfully featured in full within a Disney movie)
Tim's writers voice is a really humorous one, and this story makes fun of a lot of tropes, such as despite fairy tale characters living happily ever after, there was virtually no mention of what happened with their parents after that. Tim does however address the "Happily/Unhappily ever" aspect in his story, which I very much appreciated.
The Story (book pun intended) is largely set in a possibly middle eastern setting based on the names and titles, and the landscape such as the presence of oasis. It is told from the 3rd person point of view of a thief character, which is uncommon, as theives in most stories are seen as adversarial. This Point of View (PoV) is fun, as it includes their thoughts on how badly or well they are paid, and the annoying type of clients they have to deal with. There is good world-building on the lore such as how guild contracts can be used as referrals to other potential clients.
Also, I like how the disadvantages of spells such as invisibility are mentioned. World building is excellent, such as how Oasis's, Temples, and Cities work and originate and there are many examples of oral traditions being done by different characters throughout.
Oral traditions play a huge part in PoT, with many characters recounting what happened in ages past. The importance of stories told by people throughout the lands and ages plays an important part as both entertainment and warnings to those who hear them. Magic exists in the world, but at the time of the story, spells are mostly cast through physical artifacts than one's inherent ability. The catch? You have to know the artifact's story to cast the spell. Stories are often exchanged between people when traveling, and although the existence of maps was mentioned, written text was barely mentioned, suggesting most people pass on ideas and concepts orally rather than literally.
The importance of Gods in guiding people's actions is well used, and though they don't ever appear in the story, acts in the same way as a conscience does in our world. There are Gods for different professions, like that for theives and merchants.
All in all, the writer Tim really did a good job in introducing a vast fantasy world worth reading to readers. The finale resolving scene felt like it was over too quickly and fast, though the journey for the finale was a really long one, one filled with "side quests" (in gaming terms). Readers may feel impatient over the story taking a little long in between key events, especially after the first 50%, but one could argue Nivvy's journey is part of the experience. If you are a fan to Tim's anthropomorphic works, you may be briefly saddened by the few anthropomorphic characters and interactions, but his writing style is no less stellar. The "bonus stories" at the end written as stories characters tell with the PoT are by themselves good parables and cautionary tales for the readers, something parents can tell their children/cubs, and teachers to tell their students.
In Tim Susman's "The Price of Thorns," the currency of this captivating world is not just gold or silver but stories -- narratives that hold the power to shape destinies and unlock the most treacherous secrets. The story unfolds in a land where silence can be as valuable as speech, and secrets are the hidden threads that weave the foundations of destiny.
Enter Nivvy, a rogue and a thief, whose life is filled with secrets, having ventured from the comfort of his home to the Thieves Guild, only to be cast out against his will into a life of solitude. His fortunes take a fateful turn when Bella, a woman cloaked in an air of mystery and draped in an ancient dress, offers him an impossible heist -- to reclaim a kingdom she claims as her own. For Nivvy, the promise of this task is a potential return to the disreputable embrace of the Thieves Guild as well as a tantalizing challenge that tempts his daring spirit.
Yet, as with all things in this mystical world, there is more than meets the eye. Bella, too, harbors secrets that are mysterious. Her quest, Nivvy soon discovers, is not the straightforward tale it seems. The narrative twists and turns, leading him down a treacherous path where ancient stories come to life, and Bella's ties to these tales are not coincidental. The journey, both enchanting and perilous, unfolds into a quest of unforeseen danger and intrigue.
Susman blends fantasy and reality, where the very essence of stories and secrets is explored with an exquisite finesse. "The Price of Thorns" is an array of narrative threads, where each word is a spell, and each page is a portal to a world where stories come alive. Nivvy's adventure, if he survives, is not merely about pilfering a kingdom, but uncovering the layers of a narrative that stretch far beyond the imagination.
Susman weaves a narrative in a realm where storytelling is as potent as magic. He lures readers into the depths of intrigue, challenging us to unearth the mysteries of the world he has created. "The Price of Thorns" combines the allure of secrets, the power of stories, and the thrill of an epic adventure into a captivating atmosphere of wonder. In the world of literature, this book is a treasure trove of tales, where secrets have their own price and stories hold the key to destinies. Prepare to be enchanted, beguiled, and captivated by the magic.
"Tim Susman's 'The Price of Thorns' unveils a world where secrets are currencies and stories are spells."
"A mesmerizing journey through a realm where silence speaks louder than words."
"Enchanting secrets, stories, and spellbinding adventure."
"Susman casts a magical spell, inviting readers to a world where secrets hold the key."
"The power of narrative is woven with the thrill of epic quests."
"A treasure trove of tales, where every word is a key to a hidden door."
"Prepare to be captivated, enchanted, and transfixed by the magic of 'The Price of Thorns.'"
"A fantasy epic where secrets have a price, and stories shape destinies."
"An unforgettable odyssey through a world where silence is golden and stories are priceless."
It’s only human to resist change, but Tim Susman braves unfamiliar territory in his epic fantasy novel, proving he can captivate loyal furry fans and new mainstream readers alike.
The Price of Thorns tells the stories of Nivvy, a lovable but flawed young man hired to help a mysterious old woman steal back her kingdom. The back cover synopsis ends there, revealing nothing past chapter one. Subsequent pages are full of surprises as Susman turns common, escapist furry and fantasy themes on their heels, daring to ask: what if being an animal weren’t so much fun? What if magic caused more harm than good, and people might be better off without it? Perhaps readers won’t dream of visiting Nivvy’s world as they do Middle-Earth or Narnia; magic as a tool is limited and often grim (just wait til you see what djinn do with it) and the cities feel like real metropolises: striking and full of history, but also smelly, seedy, and a bit dangerous (at least, the parts Nivvy tends to frequent). But there’s no need for a return visit to Spire or Copper Port, not when Susman’s crafty world building makes the stories heard, lessons learned, and friends made feel real long after the last page.
Don’t be fooled by the human protagonist; as long-time Susman fans will hope, there are indeed anthropomorphic animals in Nivvy’s world, and The Price of Thorns holds some of the best furry writing found in any genre. Far from just being human-smart animals who can talk, these characters’ species write their experiences in vivid detail. Birds of prey, with their sharp long-distance eyesight, enjoy the scenery on long trips. Rodents and mustelids navigate using shadows made by leaves and grasses on the forest floor, ever aware of their own mortality. Even the speed at which small bodies use up energy from food factors into characters’ day-to-day lives.
Without a doubt, the greatest strength of The Price of Thorns is its humanity. Susman writes humans, animals, and magical beings alike with such empathetic detail that everyone, no matter how gray their morals, feels nuanced and goes through a meaningful transformation. Notably, LGBTQ+ characters’ stories are told with modern sensitivity, empowering readers and making them feel seen. With its countless brilliantly human moments, everyone will find something to relate to, whether it’s the sinking loss of a future that once seemed promised; the disappointment of trying to see the good in people who continually show darkness; or crippling grief after a preventable tragedy. Ultimately, the heartfelt message of The Price of Thorns is the same for everyone: whatever has befallen you—and no matter if it’s a result of your own decisions or plain-old bad luck—life is always worth living and making great.
The Price of Thorns became an instant classic for me the second I finished reading it. As a lifelong lover of the fantastic, there’s nothing I enjoy more than getting lost in a beautifully constructed world with a diverse cast of interesting characters. Susman has delivered all that and more with richly detailed mythos that frankly blew me away with its complexity, depth, and fully realized heroes whose flaws make them entirely relatable while their strengths and deeds border the archetypal. The story begins with Nivvy, a young thief who has been ousted from their guild, strapped to what amounts to the village rack after being caught plying their trade. While getting pelted with rocks and refuse, a strange woman wearing clothes that went out of style hundreds of years ago offers him his freedom in return for completing a job. Only after he agrees does she reveal that the job involves stealing an entire kingdom, her long-lost kingdom, in fact. With dreams of redemption and wealth on his mind, Nivvy wholeheartedly (and a bit recklessly) throws himself into the crownless queen’s quest. But the enigmatic Bella has ulterior motives and savage secrets that could change the very essence of not only Nivvy’s existence but that of the entire world. A large part of what makes this particular world so enchanting is that it is powered by stories. The stories of magical objects activate their latent powers, the stories of travelers pay their way on their journeys, and the stories the characters tell themselves mold and shape their realities both individually and collectively. It’s a fascinating and beautiful way to incorporate magic into worldbuilding, and with the inclusion of a prominent trans character, the implications about the power in the stories we tell ourselves bring a particularly hopeful potency to the story arc. Susman’s writing style is vivid and effervescent, making the over 500-page novel seemingly readable in the blink of an eye. The quick progression of the plot is perfect for a fantasy adventure, but Susman certainly doesn’t skimp on the deeply introspective moments necessary to create a full-fledged hero’s journey. Deep while remaining playful, and hopeful while relating injustice, The Price of Thorns perfectly walks the line between charming and impactful. Perfect for fans of TJ Klune and Josh Winning; those looking for a wider distribution of representation in their heroes, or anyone who needs a dose of classic fairy tale inspiration with their monomythic adventure will adore this gem of a novel.
I was given a copy of this book by the author prior to doing an interview with him. This has not affected my opinion, and the fact I have subsequently purchased this book should give an indication of how much I enjoyed it (if the 5 stars didn't - Thank you Kindle store for releasing the book a day early).
I like to give books a couple of chapters to draw me in before deciding if I want to continue with them. I didn't need to with The Price of Thorns. I was drawn in within the first couple of pages. Nivvy, our protagonist, starts the tale in a spot of a predicament. A chance encounter with a strange lady known as Bella kick starts an adventure which I found to be a joy to read from start to finish.
This was the first book by Tim Susman I had ever read (either as himself or as Kyell Gold) and I feel I've been missing out. I was able to be whisked away to the world Nivvy and friends reside with such ease that by the time I had finished the book, I felt a connection with the places and the people within them. I wasn't just reading about the trials Nivvy was going through, I was there with him. Which is more than can be said for other fantasy books I've read.
One thing that set The Price of Thorns aside from its peers, for me, was how magic was used. It's not the "fix all" that some novels use it as, and the implementation of it felt natural (even if it didn't to some of the characters at times). The same goes for stories told within the world. Stories are as much of a currency as gold and silver, and they play a big part in helping both characters and reader understand what is going on in the plot. There is an appendix of a few stories too large to be narrated in the main text, and it's worth taking time to jump to them when noted before jumping back to the main plot.
All in all, this is a thoroughly enjoyable read that is deep enough to captivating while not so complex that it overwhelms the reader. I will now be seeking out other books by the author (as both Tim and Kyell). If his other books are as good as this one, a good time is pretty much assured.
"More than the gold, a thief who helped a queen regain her kingdom would certainly be a figure of stories."
Fans of epic adventure fantasy will not want to miss this well-crafted tale of magic and madness, spells and stories, and humans and former humans ensorcelled into animals. Susman displays with considerable skill every imaginative writing chop of the masters before him, such as Tolkien, Jacques, Lewis, Grahame, and others. What begins as a simple tale of punishment for a young thief, Nivali al Tamsin (better known as Nivvy), lashed upon a spinning wheel, pelted with rotten vegetables and savory insults by the good townsfolk of Plow, moves forward on the premise of risk and rescue by assisting Bella, a down-on-her-luck lady in a raggedy but expensive gown. If Nivvy successfully completes Bella’s proffered task—to steal back a kingdom that she claims to have lost (or perhaps destroyed a millennium prior, according to ancient stories)—his name will surely shine again in the Thieves Guild. The stakes are high, but Nivvy’s current circumstances are about as low as one can go before scraping the bottom of the proverbial barrel: “If Bella wasn’t delusional and he could really do her job, that would be fantastic luck, but once-in-a-lifetime jobs didn’t fall into the laps of disgraced thieves in the middle of nowhere.”
The slow but steady pace of the novel and the unexpected, clever worldbuilding make the long story roll by quickly, considering the epic length. As with many long fantasy tales, there’s that spot in the middle in which everything seems to drag, making readers wonder if pages could have been sacrificed. But the tale never really loses its cachet despite the slowdown. Fortunately, this steady pace leaves ample room for solid character building, so Nivvy, Bella, Nivvy’s (stolen) horse Rahila, his hawk friend Zein, Scarlet—an ancient friend of Bella’s who lives in a volcano, and many other quirky characters are vibrant and memorable. . .
This is going to be a pathetic review of ‘The Price Of Thorns’, written by Tim Susman and published by Argyll Publications. There is an awful lot that I like about the book, and I can’t think of a thing that I don’t like about it. I am going to do my best to write this without any ‘spoilers’.
The protagonist, and the characters allied with him, learn and grow over the course of the novel. These are not static characters. Nivvy, the protagonist, starts out cocky and sure of his abilities. Over time, he becomes empathetic towards the people around him and a far less difficult figure to ‘root’ for. The character Scarlett is also able to begin to consider others not as simply lesser beings, but as creatures worthy of consideration. Zein, another character, learns how to trust and have a certain amount of self-acceptance. The antagonist, Bella, has a veneer of faded beauty that is spoiled by her single-minded focus on vengeance.
The setting of the novel is vague as to time frame, somewhere between the invention of the wheel and prior to internal combustion. Life works at a slower pace, an individual’s reality is bounded by relatively small distances, and rulers are absolute. Cultures range from a quasi-Middle Eastern to a more European-ish monarchy, and portrayal is exquisite in details.
Magic plays a part, but magic is in decline in the world. My first thought was that as technology and learning improved, that magic declined. Magic, at this point in time, seems to have almost disappeared and is only accessible through the telling of stories associated with the specific magic. Both Bella and Scarlett have the ability to manipulate magic without tales.
For me, this is a book about self-discovery and self-acceptance. Characters range from heterosexual through homosexual, transgender, and undefined. All characters are presented in a matter-of-fact way without apology or judgment.
Finally, the book ‘flows’ well. It is not a short book, at nearly 500 pages, but kept me captivated for its entirety. Thank you, Tim Susman!
I received an ARC from NetGalley in exchange for an honest review.
This is a weird one to rate for me! It’s probably more like a 3.5 stars, but going up to 4 didn’t feel accurate.
On the one hand, this book pulled me in and had me invested pretty immediately. From the opening scene, I was really curious about the characters, and as a writer, I obviously love the concept of stories being the trigger for magic. In general the world building and magic system was really interesting. Of course, I love seeing transmasc main characters, and I went into this book not even realizing there was going to be one, so that was a surprise! It was also refreshing to not have a romantic subplot going on. The storyline of the MC finding his chosen family and figuring out who his real friends are kind of took the place of that. Through the first half or so I definitely thought this was going to be a higher rating, but I hit a spot towards the middle where things started to drag a bit. The character development through these pages is very important, but that doesn’t change the fact that I found it slow to read. I went and read another book before coming back to finish this one because of it. Eventually it picked back up and I got reinvested in everything, but I did debate DNFing during that slow 100 or so pages. My second slight complaint is the final battle moment felt very rushed and glossed over. Because of the way it happens, I don’t feel the reader really gets to experience in it happening. It’s hard to explain without spoilers, but I think there could’ve been a way to give us more in that moment.
Despite that, this is a book a would recommend just with the caveat of the slow part really. Everything is so so good and I hope a lot of people pick this up! I really want to be able to rate it higher, but I just don’t feel it would be truthful.
"The Price of Thorns" is a very solid novel, in a captivating universe/setting, by Tim Susman (who also publishes under the name Kyell Gold). I've read multiple books by him - probably the vast majority of his work - and would say that this book is certainly one of his better novels, although not my favorite that he's written.
The world is well fleshed-out, including the magical aspects of the world and the history behind magic, and I found myself relating well to different aspects of each of the main characters' internal conflicts, moral dilemmas, and personal relationship struggles during my reading of the novel. I particularly enjoyed the (admittedly somewhat complex) plot line / plot structure, and the use of shared experiential story-telling by various characters to drive the overall plot forward.
Nivvy, the main character, and Zein, one of the main side characters who gets introduced early on, were my favorites - the author does a fantastic job of showing the growth of their interpersonal relationship and their growing trust for one another. LGBTQ+ characters are featured prominently in the story; while the reader is continually reminded of the LGBTQ+ themes in the story (they do play a minor role in the plot), I thought the author struck a fine balance in making the LGBTQ+ aspects important while unobtrusive to the overall reading of the book.
The plot does meander a bit and lose steam partway through the story, and the final climactic sequence may be somewhat predictable - however, overall the novel is strong and an excellent entry by the author into his growing catalogue of stellar writing. 4.5 stars out of 5, rounded up.
I was part of the Advance Review Copy (ARC) program for The Price of Thorns.
This book was delightful, whimsical, charming, fantastic, and heart warming. Nivvy and his friends remind me of hijinks had by the creatures of Mossflower or even Wind in the Willows.
the story is a bit slow to grab you, it took me the first 30% to get into it, and it falls a bit weak at the end. a lot of the dialogue feels… a bit clunky? this is not saying it wasn’t enjoyable, but it took me a bit to find the flow of the characters and begin to enjoy their dynamics.
the rep is nice! the mc is trans, along with the mention of others in their past, there’s at least two gay couples mentioned, as well as the sort of illusion to asexuality a few times? also, there’s a decent number of non white characters, including the mc.
also there is a lot of lore and storytelling involved that is interesting but can feel rather like reading a history book or an aesops fable. but all in all it’s sprinkled throughout and you see the reasons why these stories are included.
what is my one main sticking point, is the fact the trans mc spends quite a bit of time in an animal form. which??? isn’t bad. and i appreciate that the spell doesn’t negate their transness. but it does feel a bit like when disney turns black characters into animals or non-humans ( i.e. soul or princes and the frog ).
overall i enjoyed it, and if you’re looking for something that feels like, if wind in the willows went to ketterdam, and if jesper fahey were trans — then this is a good book for you.
there is no romance ( fine by me ), but there is the platonic bonds of found family, as well as the trauma of birth family.
thank you to tim susman and netgalley for offering me this copy to read as an ARC so i could review it!
First off I have to say the main character Nivvy is now one of my favorite wholesome "cinnamon" characters I hold dear to my heart. Without revealing main plot points (because what's the fun in that??) Nivvy's trials and tribulations he's dragged through does nothing but fortify him for whatever comes next. I just remember reading once certain point where he goes through a big change and yeah, he gets a little freaked out (which honestly, same.) but he IMMEDIATELY starts thinking about all the positives this change is going to bring him. I adore and cherish him as a character for sure and he is not one that I will forget for a long long time! As far as the book goes overall, it felt more Young Adult than Adult Fantasy, which isn't a bad thing in my opinion but the voice the author used just feels more positioned to tell this as a Young Adult story. I do realize there are things in the story that won't fly with the book being considered Young Adult but over all it felt like the wording and the way the story was approached was YA. Also, the book seemed a little slow for me in the middle, but it did pick up more towards the end. I really really enjoyed this book and I respected the way the author discussed LGBTQ+ but it made me sad a little because it felt like something that was hidden, which is something that is very common bt the reason it makes me sad is the same reason most things LGBTQ+ make me sad. I don't want people to have to hide themselves and act as though a part of them is not considered normal. BUT overall this book was a wonderful read and I will be looking for more of Tim's books in the future!
Thanks to NetGalley for this ARC in exchange for an honest review. Another reviewer commented on the extraordinarily sympathetic protagonist this book contains and I went in hoping for this to be accurate. It really was: Nivvy is, in a word, adorable. He doesn’t strike me as an ace thief (not denying his talent of course, what I mean to say is that he is not defined by his chosen profession).
The characters in this book made it for me. They were so well defined and so believable. I was sceptical of the honesty of some of them early on and I was right to feel that way, but I also found myself surprised by the genuine nature of others who I expected to be deceitful. Overall a whirlwind of a ride working out which side I sat on!
The concept of stories within stories, and having magic only work with the stories of the item being told, was new to me, and I would have loved to have seen more of this shown in the book. It just… worked, and was clever. I love fairytales and that’s sort of what it felt like. I didn’t know what to believe when told these stories, and it was like being a little kid again.
The plot, though, lost me about half way through. It became a little meandering around this point, and it lost some of the gusto that carried the beginning 25-30% of the novel. Not enough to put it down, I hasten to add, but the middle was not nearly as strong as the beginning.
Overall, this was a fun and engaging read. It served its purpose well as a book I could lose myself in for a few days.
I found Price of Thorns to be a rewarding read through the eyes of an immediately sympathetic protagonist. Nivvy starts this novel as a disgraced thief caught on the grinding wheel of bad circumstances (somewhat literally) and his chance encounter with a woman on a relentless march towards destiny tests him dearly in ways readers won’t anticipate. It’s a transformative experience to say the least, won't spoil.
Heroes and villains stand tall in every chapter, often both in the same characters scrutinized from different perspectives. Of course, it's Nivvy’s central struggle to seek fortune in this world that bears the most dire consequences, both for himself and a menagerie of friends and foes made along the way.
And what a rich setting! Tim Susman has always put together detailed, well-established worlds (see Unfinished Business as a contemporary-fantasy example) and Price is no different, layering culture, religion and interwoven fables that trace a very calamitous history going back thousands of years. It’s a very lived-in place, and one readers will be easily immersed in.
I honestly enjoyed this novel and feel its among Susman’s best work.
When we first meet Nivvy, he is tied to a rotating wheel outside of town, as punishment for stealing. Just as the town bullies start pelting him with refuse, a strange woman appears and intercedes. Nivvy makes a deal with her to cut him down, little realizing that their deal and relationship will have dire consequences on his future.
Nivvy’s great dream is to be head of the Thieves Guild, but he’s been banished from his previous guild for actions on his part that led to a fellow thief’s capture and death. Now he’s on the run from his past.
He also has a secret that few people in the world know.
Set in a world where stories are currency, author Tim Susman weaves a story of identity, empathy, friendship, and taking responsibility for one’s actions.
Magic abounds, thievery is an honorable profession (of a sort), and animals can talk.
Nivvy has a satisfying redemption arc, but it felt like it could have taken about 200 fewer pages to get there, as the book dragged for me and would have benefited from some editing.
Still, it’s an admirable piece of work, and a fun read. I look forward to more from this author.
I want to thank the Author, NetGalley, and Argyll Productions for providing this e-ARC. Witch, I will be giving my honest and sincere review. This text introduces an enthralling fantasy story filled with magic, adventure, and redemption. It follows the journey of Nivali, a young thief known as Nivvy, who faces public humiliation in the town of Plow. When offered a chance at redemption by assisting Bella, a desperate woman, Nivvy embarks on a dangerous mission to reclaim a lost kingdom. Despite his dire circumstances, Nivvy sees this as an opportunity to restore his tarnished reputation within the Thieves Guild. The narrative promises an exciting tale of risks, challenges, and the pursuit of a second chance, drawing parallels to the timeless works of fantasy legends like Tolkien and Lewis. The world-building and descriptions of the sceneries felt like I was travelling along with Nivali. The book was a bit of a slow pace for me, slowing my attention to the story. I feel like the story could've been portrayed in a bit smaller length.
This story drew me in and kept me guessing. I could not predict where the story was headed or what was going to happen, not because it was chaotic but because it was so different from other stories I've read. For me, the clearest progression in the story was the main character's personal growth, as he starts out self-centered with a bit of a victim mindset. He is not unrelateable in the beginning of the story, but later in the story it is clear how far he has come. The book features queer characters and relationships that fit well into the story. It's part of what makes them who they are but doesn't define them, which is refreshing. I also enjoyed the author's take on magic (it doesn't work the same as in most fantasy stories) and the talking-animal motif. I didn't feel that the middle portion dragged on and was never tempted to give it up, but I can see how it could be considered too meandering.
The Price of Thorns is the best kind of fantasy--it celebrates personal connection, the power of storytelling, and all kinds of diversity (racial, cultural, economic, and even ecological) while still managing to tell a rip-roaring good story that I couldn't put down. The novel's worldbuilding feels wide in scope without sacrificing the wonderful small details (the scent of a garment, the rich taste of a stew, the particular sound made by the ruffling of feathers) that make fantasies so enjoyable. I fell in love with our down-on-his-luck thief main character and the arc of his growth (complete with several VERY inventive twists and turns) was deeply satisfying. This is the best kind of modern fantasy, full of a magic as old as mythos but also a place where nonbinary characters mingle freely with ancient Jinn and animal folk and human beings of all colors and nations and not a single one feels out of place. I would recommend this delightful book to nearly any reader on my list.
Susman shows promise in this novel. Some cleverly-imagined scenarios and delightfully retro-feeling use of magical artifacts adds to the feeling of reading an old-fashioned, Arabian Nights-style fairy tale.
However, uneven pacing, a bloated middle, and a whimper of an ending clearly show that this relatively new author has a ways to go. Also, the LGBTQ element seemed wholly unnecessary and tagged-on for no purpose other than to make the book more in line with current reading fashions.
Hoping for Susman's next book to be more tightly-plotted with ever-increasing tension that culminates in an explosive ending.
What a fun YA fantasy! I really enjoyed Tim Susman’s very immersive style of storytelling. The worldbuilding was done well and the magic system was so intriguing. Nivvy was a great protagonist. My favorite character though was the villain, I thought they had the best character arc and were fleshed out the best. The pacing was a bit all over the place and it did pull me out of the story at times. I think this would be a great read for anyone looking for a fantasy with assassins, thieves and an exciting adventure.
Thank you so much to Argyll Productions for providing this eARC via Netgalley in exchange for an honest review. All thoughts and opinions are my own.
A magical world, an intriguing plot, and an excellent character arc are waiting inside this book. Nivvy is a great MC, and he changes a lot over the course of the book. Bella is interesting, and I was dying to know more about her story once she was introduced. The magic system is unique and well-developed, and adds to the richness of the world. A very big part of this story revolves around telling stories, and how those stories can impact and change things, which I found interesting. It all kept the plot moving along pretty smoothly from start to finish. I'd absolutely love to read more stories and adventures set in this world in the future!
This book was nice! The world was developed nicely and the idea that magic can only be wielded if you know the story behind it is super interesting. I really liked the main characters Nivvy and Zein! Their friendship development was sweet and a nice break from all the evilness that goes on. The villain had a wild villain arc that was told through stories so that was super interesting and I even felt bad for her towards the end of the book. Overall, the book was super interesting and I really liked it.
Thanks, Netgalley and Publisher for the opportunity to read and review! I am impressed by the unique premise behind the magic system. Very original and unique for the story! I am also impressed by the main villain character....it's amazing when "villains" grow on you more and more throughout reading the story that you end up actually sympathizing with them at the very end! Very good character development for the villain of the story! The main characters are pretty nice too and they have their sweet moments! Very well written and developed as well! Definitely a must-read!
I think this is Tim Susman's best work so far, across both of his pen names. A brilliant story with some amazing characters.
Sometimes it felt like the narrative was focusing on characters far away from the events of the actual story, but never did this feel like an issue. It allowed the book to focus on the smaller characters (sometimes literally, yay weasels!) and bring about more character development.
The world felt so much bigger than the story revealed as well, and while this story is entirely self-contained, there is certainly potential for a lot more to come in the setting.