The nonstop action and antics continue—and the hero–sidekick relationship is turned on its head—in the second installment of this thrilling fantasy series.
When quiet Orrin and his extroverted best friend, Daniel, were transported to a strange RPG-based world, not much changed between them. Daniel became a hero of legend, while Orrin remained his unobtrusive shadow. Only when they faced a particularly lethal foe did Orrin step out of his comfort zone and display his true worth—with powers he didn’t know he had. Of course, Daniel got all the glory, but Orrin doesn’t mind. He’s just happy they’re both still alive.
However, they are given little time to celebrate before a local authority offers them the chance to explore a newly revealed dungeon. They can hardly refuse, as the adventure would bring them within spitting distance of the woodland realm of the elves, which is currently enduring an attack by the neighboring country of Odrana. So Daniel and Orrin hope to get stronger conquering the dungeon and then lend a hand in the war.
And though he’s not typical warrior material, Orrin has his own set of magical skills to bring to the quest. Skills he’s surprised to learn shouldn’t even exist. And for good it seems his ever-growing abilities have the potential to elevate him far beyond his bestie the hero . . .
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I loved book 1, but I'm not particularly interested in following the MC through his gay romance story (which wasn't even hinted at in book 1), so I'll just be getting off this train here.
Authors think is funny to end a book with a major cliffhanger. Sorry, but I don’t care for it. Orrin’s sexuality conflict didn’t impress me either. Honestly this is one of the reasons I prefer books without any romance bs. Daniel and Madi can’t keep a secret for sh*t. I’m surprised everyone doesn’t know everything about the Hero and Administrator. This book wasn’t as good as the first one IMO.
Why is this blushing protag taking up so much of the plot? This feels like forced romance, and I hate that crap.
More things happened in book one at the position I'm currently at in book two.
I wonder if this book's protag being loosely based on the "damn Daniel" boy, and you could plainly see that the real life guy saying "damn Daniel" had a huge crush on Daniel, would explain a lot of what is going on in this book?
The book is named Secrets and Strife. I don't understand why these YA-esque books have the protags always feeling guilty for not telling everyone on their team their secret. Even though the others are not coming clean themselves. They make it out to be this big thing that could end the world if this other person finds out they were keeping secrets.
You don't tell your every secret to someone, and it's pissing me off that it's a damn trope that pops up so damn regularly. I understand keeping a secret from a person in a ten year relationship with you can be detrimental, but from someone you just met less than a month ago? These damn lazy ass authors use it to drum up easy drama.
The start of this sucked, but by the end I enjoyed it. Did not like the cliffhanger. I will pick up the sequel. Hopefully it doesn't do that long drawn out crap at the beginning again.
This one didn’t land as well for me. The constant “teenagers know best” attitude gets grating fast—characters pushing back against authority or common sense feels less like growth and more like stubbornness. Maybe that’s what YA readers want to see, but it dragged down the story for me. The worldbuilding and setup are still interesting, yet the balance tips too heavily toward teen drama over plot progression.
This series was pretty average they most of book 2, but the contrived ending and cliffhanger prove the author both doesn’t understand this genre and doesn’t have the chops to write a logically consistent series.
The setup of the series isn’t bad. Nothing to write home about. Kind of like the idea of two Isekai’d friends. But the title is misleading bc turns out the MC is exponentially more important than the Hero. That’s not a terrible thing, does kind of contradict the setup a bit, but I understand it’s his character arc to stop being an insecure dweeb with a jock best friend. Not exactly reaching for much with that character arc. It’s low hanging fruit, but shockingly many authors don’t even bother with a character arc at all so I guess it’s not the worst main I’ve read.
My issue is with the lack of logical consistency with regard to the MC’s Admin powers. To a degree it makes sense because he doesn’t have a tutorial and has to learn as he goes. But literally he could solve the problem at the end of this book and the beginning of the next one by simply using a power he already learned how to use. And he has the points to do it. Just change the bad guy’s class to farmer level one and then take him out. Easy peazy lemon squeezy [Dust Hands]…
But no… the author wants MC to be captured at the end in a big cliffhanger, cause we love those in this genre [Sarcasm]. But in all seriousness we despise them. They’re a cheap writing gimmick. This genre is power fantasy, it’s about payoffs. Cliffhangers are the opposite of that.
Further, the plot of this series is meandering and disjointed. This book especially lacks any encapsulated story arc. Sure, a lot of authors in this genre write like that. It’s not good writing, but it’s not illegal. However, even the actions within this book don’t make sense. It doesn’t make sense who the MC and his buddy decide to trust and who not to especially with regard to the previously established danger of said information. They don’t seem to have a plan for what they need to do, what they want to do, or how to get there. At a minimum, they should be power-leveling in dungeons, but they only do one and spend the rest of the time messing around essentially.
The plan at the end to go alone to another country and rescue a guy when there’s both wards against teleportation and also an already established powerful bad guy that they can’t hope to fight, it just doesn’t make any sense why they’re doing any of that. To rescue their friend’s former guard? I mean it’s noble, but it’s also beyond idiotic. They risk their entire purpose on being on the planet to do it.
But when you realize the author wants the MC to be captured and thus in this other country for the next phase of his story, which as even more ridiculous magic academy arc, then it makes sense. The author instead of weaving this plot to coalesce to that goal, just drew a line between where he was and where he wanted to go and didn’t care if it felt contrived and didn’t make sense.
I’m reading the third book but it’s incredibly tedious. I find I dislike just about every character except the Hero, and he’s not even in book 3 so far. The world building doesn’t make much sense. The magic system is just whatever the MC needs it to be. There’s no plot armor at least. It’s just contrived circumstances to accomplish the same thing.
Not really sure if I’ll read past Book 3 unless it somehow turns things around and really impresses me.
There was a lot going on in this one as well, with some natural teen boy aggression and misunderstandings. Great for the story, great for the growth, and a ton of fun.
Still some of the same problems with this book. The side characters are just kind of there and the plot moves forward by the kids doing dumb stuff. The formatting for the skills and stats have been fixed so it's much more legable than before. The story is somewhat interesting but is starting to lose me with they way certain things are ignored. A big example is the pass that was supposed to be this thing no one crossed alive but it seems people cross it with no big deal.
It's not the cliffhanger that pissed me off but how bloody useless the MC and Hero are.
So I get they are sixteen and lazy, so the Hero and MC aren't leveling like crazy and using every opportunity. Sure the MC could be unlocking super powerful spells and merging them all the time. That's just the MC's normal confidence issue of He's not the Hero and letting the self centered best friend Hero take all the glory. Even if they think the world hangs in the balance.
No, the reason that I think they are both useless beyond the Hero thinking he's the center of everything is how the MC doesn't use his Admin powers. We learn and this is a 'minor' thing in the book, like not even a full chapter worth of focus, that the power to change class sets the person who changes class back to Level 1. Now, unless this is a hack for the target to keep their stats, in which case power level from 1 to 10 for free stat points would be a thing. That it's not mentioned make it seem the stats go back to level 1 too. Nor does the target need to give permission or be aware of it as we learn.
So the MC has a power, that he can instantly change anyone like.. DEMON LORD or KING MAGE of Odrana to FARMER level 1, resetting all their non-dungeon stats to level 1 and making Orrin's negative stat buffs work on them instantly and removing all their class specific spells and skills. The fact he DOESN'T at all use this, makes this book so stupid. He literally is told he has GOD like powers and never uses them, no matter how bad the situation. HE CAN WIN ANY FIGHT IN ONE MOVE!
I can get past him not inverse heal small wounds to create small wounds, not looking for upgrades to meditation or combos with it to regain more mana, or a million other small, He's a teenager and doesn't put in the effort thoughts. BUT that he has the OP power and ignores it so that the hero can feel important? Even at that cliff hanger ending? That's...Is it him or the author who is a moron to make such a big loophole power?
I enjoyed the first book in this series but I was a little harsh in my review. I decided to go back to the well and start Book 2 in this series because I just finished another series that I would consider similar, overall, to the tone and approach of this book, and my feeling after finishing Book 1 in that series was similar to this one, yet I really enjoyed it. So perhaps I should give this series another shot.
I love being right!
For the genre, this might be the best book 2 in a series like this that I have ever read. Book 1 felt campy (minus any positive traits that word implies) and tropey. Obvious plotlines and foreshadowing drove me crazy; especially when the characters seemingly can figure out all manners of complex schemes but not concepts hitting them in the face. Book 2, while still having some of those same detractors, is a complete 180 from book 1 in nearly all facets. This book had a clear purpose, goal, and story, and it was executed perfectly. I'm not a fan of ending books on cliffhangers, but it is a little more palatable given that I already have the next book lined up.
Overall world building, character development, pacing, everything was better here. The only down side is that it was such a surprise to me that I am probably over-correcting to the other side of the spectrum by lauding this book. Notwithstanding, if you read Book 1 and felt 'meh' I totally get it because you were me. Give Book 2 a shot and if you still feel that way, I apologize for wasting some of your time. But I think you'll be glad that you did.
Honestly, I am really enjoying this series. At this point, Orrin, Daniel and Maddie feel like my friends. They’re so endearing and likable. Their banter is top notch and I love their friendship SO much. The loyalty they share, the energy they bring, everything is so genuine.
The plot is definitely interesting! I like the idea of the admins and I am curious where that plot will go next - what Orrin will have to do through the series with that plot.
I do want to address some things other reviews have brought up.
One: the romance. Why are people complaining about like… a handful of flirting moments in a book??? That’s not romance. 🙃 To be clear, the flirting happens between a minor male character from book one and Orrin. And Orrin essentially ignores the advances and ultimately says, “I realized don’t need to like every person who shows an interest in me.” That’s it. It’s a progression point for Orrin - he’s a teenager who has had very few people in his life show up for him and even fewer actively like him. Give the guy a break!
Two: the cliffhanger. Cliffhangers are allowed you know. It’s a selling point. If someone had read this as a serial, you’d have cliffhangers every chapter! 😅 I have no qualms with a cliffhanger ending myself. It makes me want to keep reading.
All in all, I’d recommend this book to people who want a fun found family isekai / fantasy with litrpg elements!
I stopped the book early because of other reviews talking about a cliffhanger. I'm skipping the cliffhanger and will finish this book when the third one is available. I stopped at the end of chapter 51.
If you saw my review of the first book you'll know that I don't enjoy the difficulty of feelings. This book keeps turning the screws on feelings. Trust, betrayal and loss of control combine with a dash of sexuality to turn my discomfort to 11.
I would rate the book higher. I might rate it higher if it has an ending I enjoy. Right now I'm scared to find out what happens. I'm looking forward to finishing this book when #3 comes out in audiobook format.
4.15 stars. I definitely enjoyed this a lot more than the first book. It stayed engaging and easy to get through. I also liked how the worldbuilding and overall direction started to expand.
That said, one thing that really bothered me was Madi. I didn’t like how entitled she felt to the MC’s secrets and trust despite not knowing him for that long. She repeatedly expects complete honesty from him. When he doesn’t tell her everything, she treats it like a betrayal, even when it doesn’t really concern her. It felt unearned and frustrating.
Another issue was that this book still felt very YA. The characters don’t fully think things through, and they often act like they know best. There was also a lot of wasted potential with the MC’s abilities. Some moments felt avoidable, especially near the end. Overall, I still enjoyed it and will continue the series.
On the second book of the "I'm not the Hero" series we find that Orrin is still advancing and finding out he has a totally different class. Daniel the Hero is still the same guy, always thinking that his brawn will solve it all. The group goes after a tough dungeon and after they are successful they go to the Elves just to find another Admin. This is the start of the real growth for Orrin. I really like he series its not exactly hard to predict some of the actions and at times Daniel and Madi are annoying. Daniel is strong but even after everything that happens he keeps ignoring the signs that he should be working for Orrin's growth and not the other way around. Secrets, yeah nobody can seem to keep them. Specially Daniel
Pretty good 👍 only thing that's crazy 🤪 is you don't get loot when you kill monsters you don't really get anything in dungeons everything has a cost they even have to pay for skills & abilities the only thing they are getting is levels and ability points it's a very stingy system 🤔 and everyone keeps whining about gay stuff what gay stuff Garrett is a hoe he flirted with orin a few times boo-hoo he didn't even say much grow up people it's a good read Garrett was flirting with everyone male and female. I hate that orin keeps putting himself in a box 📦 but then gets upset 😡 because he can't fight but he keeps kneecaping his self because he's so used to being a afterthought I wish he would stop wavering and man up.
MC is still a bit of a doormat. The 'sensible' character often acts entirely based on emotions. None of them can keep critical information to themselves. The main characters often act without thinking and berate each other for doing the same thing. The romance is pretty cringey.
Story ends in a cliffhanger and th last 10% of the book doesn't really make any logical sense. They should have no reason to expect to be able to do what they try to accomplish, and should know that it's a bad idea even try. They try anyway because that's what the plot requires.
2.5/5 Still the same as the last book, but the world is a bit more interesting. The “cool” moments didn’t hit very well, though, and Daniel is kind of annoying. His constant need to be the best at everything even though he’s brand new in the world is obnoxious. The threats he and MC make are absurd in that context. “I’ll burn you all to the ground” when it’s clear that everyone in the city is massively stronger is so annoying. I get that they are young and immature, but they also need to have consequences more often from their brashness.
Um, excuse me, that ending is genuinely not okay. WHAT?!?!? That lowkey made me mad.
In all seriousness, I thought this was a great book. Definitely a slow start and the pacing in this series is just a bit off for me, but I love the story and how the author balances the brokenness of the characters he’s created in a realistic way! Definitely going to get the next book immediately because WHAT DO YOU MEAN?!?! The cliffhanger is INSANE!
I did not hate this book. I enjoyed the last 40%. First half was very slow. Then the ending annoyed TF out of me. Why give a character an OP ability if they never use it when it matters?! 😩
Also, to the negative comments about this being BL, you're dumb and didn't read beyond a few awkward interactions. There is no romance going on. One man flirts with literally EVERYONE and one MC gets a little flustered. That is all. Does not go beyond that.
As more and more stories are being published after appearing on Royalroad it might be hard to find a decent story to read. Look no further! This for me was worth reading. I read it on Royalroad as it was being written. Book three is being written now and soon I will take a day and get caught up. (I hate running out of chapters.)
It's a really good installment in the series, almost too much action, but I enjoyed learning along with Orrin about his fascinating class. I also enjoyed the Elven Realm, especially the tutoring. I didn't appreciate the cliff hanger.
I'm astounded by some of the comments, which are a reader extrapolation and not actually valid (if they had only read on!).
So many authors these days do not know how to end a book properly, so they just write until its at the most climactic moment and then....just stop. You can bring a book to a proper resting place and still write a series. Doing it like this does NOT make me want to read the next one more. It makes me upset at wasting time.
I really enjoyed the book until the end. It was pretty obvious the it was going to end with a cliffhanger and it did. Not my favorite way to end a book. Then it introduced my least favorite trope, the suppression collar. Those collars never lead to anything good. They always lead to some kind of slavery, prison or torture plot line. The majority of the book was solid. Good plot, cool system and fun characters.
Decent character work, good plot, interesting world (including the "game" system). The writing was a bit YA-ish (not unreasonable, given the ages of the protagonists, but still a bit obtrusive).
This was trending to 3.5 - 4 stars until the cliffhanger ending.
Fun, but unless you're willing to commit to the next book, I wouldn't recommend it.
OMG, How to quickly lose interest in a story. Reading along, enjoying yourself and then something really weird like this comes out of the blue and you think... 'oh not another 1'. Politically correct formula is for the margins not the mainstream. If I want enlightened it's not unsolicited morality lessons from an adventure book.
Fun read without an overpowered man character. Light litrpg elements with good characters. Second book is even better with good character and skill growth. Looking forward to book three.