For obvious reasons, I'm newly interested in this topic lol. I have a LOT of quibbles with the dating/marriage advice I see tossed around in Christian circles, so I'm pretty wary about Christian love/relationship resources.
However, I have a general trust of John Mark Comer, and he has a very emotionally healthy approach to faith that I admire, so I figured I'd give this a try. It turned out to be a... somewhat mixed bag. I LOVED maybe 80% of it, and was SO frustrated and discouraged by the remaining 20% (making this a very hard book to rate lol).
I love how much he emphasized the role of /friendship/ in your spouse. It's one of the things about dating that I look for and find so important, and it's really great to see that affirmed here.
I liked the talk about vocation and how we all have to tend to our part of the garden, whatever that is, and how a spouse is there to be a helper. You are working towards something together. "Marriage is... to partner with God for the remaking of shalom." It's interesting about the advice is to ideally not marry someone until youve both figured out your calling in life ("gardening project") - he does emphasize ideal, though, and lists several caveats that he says are beyond the scope of the book, and refocuses on the idea that marriage exists for more than yourselves. While I have seen this mindset lean too far into "means to an end, the person doesn’t matter as much as the calling" in Christain circles, as long as it's paired with the healthy dose of friendship it becomes a beautiful "doing life together" partnership rather than "amiable coworkers."
"Ezer" which is commonly translated as "helper" has the connotation of equal - the word is used for God in the Psalms, and is also used for military reinforcements. It's cool to hear that information from a solid source.
However, JMC kinda undoes that in the next lines, where he focuses on the /man's/ vocation, and how the woman can support it and believe in it. There's nothing about the woman's vocation, just about the man's vocation and the marriage's (both people's) direction. It's so frustrating to have my own sense of calling and purpose just dismissed that way, especially from a source that seems to "get it" in other areas.
Later on, the Q&A readdresses this question, and there is some great advice about making space for both people's vocations, but then as soon as it addresses "men" and "women" more broadly, it only talks about the woman reinforcing/helping the man's vocation and not the other way around. Because the specific advice included both people, I'm not sure /why/ women's callings are erased when talking about roles in marriage, and it's super frustrating and discouraging.
"Family is to spread God's rule out over the earth." Out of context, sounds kinda (very) Christ nationalistic, but in context I really love that idea. I want there to be people "doing everything as if working for God, not for man," and seeing family as a hope (not guarentee) of further stewardship is wonderful.
I liked the part about how you don’t marry the one, you marry someone when you see who God created them to be and it excites you, and marriage is a push and pull to help get that person there. Also, it exposes the worst of you - it doesn't fix you magically, but it helps reveal the faults. Also, in case you lean too far into this mindset, he follows up later with, "don't marry a project, marry a partner," and not to expect your spouse to change.
"If you put your faith in your spouse to make you happy you'll be let down."
I deeply dislike the idea that the man should be the pursuer (even if its balanced out by the woman's enthusiastic yes - no coyness here at least). I think it's silly that if a woman likes someone she can't just be upfront about it and ask him out - dropping hints and trying to get someone's attention is a waste of time, energy, and emotion. Its better to get a clear no and move on, or get a yes and allow him to explore a relationship he might not have seriously considered on his own - in the same way a woman gets that opportunity when she's asked out. I'm glad that the Q&A section addresses that and said it's fine, but I definitely got the wrong impression from this section of the book.
When talking about that Ephesians passage, I also was interested by the line "nowhere is the man called to enforce the woman's role" as well as vice versa. While I struggle with the whole gender roles thing, that was a take I could appreciate.
But I still can't get behind the idea that men have more responsibility in the marriage. I've seen decision-making talked about in the context of deciding to have kids or not - you shouldn't just hope for an oopsie or delay the decision until you're too old, thus making the decision for you. It's far better and healthier to work through your feelings and move towards one decision or the other.
To give one partner more responsibility regarding the marriage feels like giving up that autonomy. While there are always things you can't control in life, I can't imagine allowing someone else to take the reins of your life and call it healthy. And I can't buy into mindset that it's just a /little/ more responsibility - either there's a power imbalance or there's not.
Q&A - I liked the question about emotional boundaries - both the answer about pace and also the advice that no matter what pace you move at, there will be emotional fallout so don't stress so much. His wife, specifically, said that she sees a lot of people (especially women - interesting) guard their hearts so much they can't let anyone in. That's sort of the mindset I chose to embrace going into dating, contrary to the advice I received from Christain circles, and it was very important for me (tho YMMV - and I've definitelyseen people who maybe should have more emotional boundaries).
With the question about dating after divorce, I /really/ wish abusive relationships were addressed. Because sometimes someone needs to leave, and shouldn't be guilted by the church (or told to get back together with their abuser!!).
Also, 1 year for dating as ideal is crazy - luckily JMC pushed back about it.
I also found a lot of the "practical" advice to be odd/overly restrictive. For example, I HATE the advice to never be alone in a house/apartment with your s/o. How can you learn to trust, or open up about deep stuff, if you always have to be babysat?? Sex should not be seen as a scary, uncontrollable thing that you sacrifice your one-on-one relationship in order to avoid it - it's odd because the rest of the book talks a lot about building trust and self-control, but then throws that in there at the end??
Also, it had an interesting interpretation of a Song of Songs verse that it seemed to build a lot of its practical advice around... but didn't give enough context for WHY they interpreted it that way. My literary brain needed more convincing, and that made a lot of the advice they gave meaningless to me.
Like I said - mixed bag. And it's so frustrating to receive such a mixed bag, especially when I vibe so much with a lot of it. It was worth reading and sparked a lot of conversation, but is also a huge reminder of how uncomfortable and disappointed I am with some of the rhetoric around Christain dating/marriage.