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Wolverine: Origins (Collected Editions)
Wolverine: Origins Vol. 4: Our War
Wolverine's history with Captain America revealed In the early days of WWII, before America's "official" involvement in the war, Captain America, still wet behind the ears, embarked on a clandestine mission to the island nation of Madripoor. Guess who he met there? And guess what? It wasn't a coincidence.
Collecting: Wolverine: Origins 16-20, Annual 1
Collecting: Wolverine: Origins 16-20, Annual 1
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First published February 27, 2008
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September 19, 2017
Set in the wake of Captain America’s death after the first Civil War, Wolverine pours one out for his fallen comrade and flashes back to their first encounter in WW2 – when he was the one meant to kill Cap!?
Eh… Our War is just ok. It’s the standard WW2-Cap story with Cap and co. shooting Nazis/Hydra that’s been done many times before. It feels contrived though with Wolverine shoehorned in just ‘cos. Familiar Marvel characters cameo – Black Widow, Nick Fury – to no real effect beyond fan service and the overall Origins storyline featuring Seraph and Romulus is touched upon but it’s a weak connection, contrived like most of the story.
The double-agent thing Daniel Way was going for doesn’t really work either because we know Logan’s essentially a good character and obviously Steve wasn’t killed. But Way writes a good Captain America at least and, while not memorable or exciting, it’s a readable story. It’s always good seeing Steve Dillon’s art too – miss that guy. And the annual tacked on about Wolverine returning to Madripoor and reminiscing about his time with Seraph in WW1 was rubbish except for Kaare Andrews’ dramatic art.
Wolverine Origins, Volume 4: Our War is a very so-so addition to the series though the artists really save this one while Daniel Way went on autopilot.
Eh… Our War is just ok. It’s the standard WW2-Cap story with Cap and co. shooting Nazis/Hydra that’s been done many times before. It feels contrived though with Wolverine shoehorned in just ‘cos. Familiar Marvel characters cameo – Black Widow, Nick Fury – to no real effect beyond fan service and the overall Origins storyline featuring Seraph and Romulus is touched upon but it’s a weak connection, contrived like most of the story.
The double-agent thing Daniel Way was going for doesn’t really work either because we know Logan’s essentially a good character and obviously Steve wasn’t killed. But Way writes a good Captain America at least and, while not memorable or exciting, it’s a readable story. It’s always good seeing Steve Dillon’s art too – miss that guy. And the annual tacked on about Wolverine returning to Madripoor and reminiscing about his time with Seraph in WW1 was rubbish except for Kaare Andrews’ dramatic art.
Wolverine Origins, Volume 4: Our War is a very so-so addition to the series though the artists really save this one while Daniel Way went on autopilot.
September 19, 2018
3.5 stars
Probably would have rated it a bit higher, but the art really took something away from the story. At one point, I looked at Logan...and he had @$#!ing buckteeth . Why would you do that to the guy? I mean, he's already teeny, now he needs braces, too?
The story itself was pretty good, though.
Just close your eyes and imagine a different artist...
Probably would have rated it a bit higher, but the art really took something away from the story. At one point, I looked at Logan...and he had @$#!ing buckteeth . Why would you do that to the guy? I mean, he's already teeny, now he needs braces, too?
The story itself was pretty good, though.
Just close your eyes and imagine a different artist...
January 10, 2016
"How the hell do you call yourself Captain America and not have people think it's a joke? But that's the thing though...it wasn't a joke. Steve Rogers was Captain America."
Our War continues Wolverine's trip down recently returned memories lane. This volume features Logan's first time meeting Captain America, Bucky, and Nick Fury.
It's mostly flashbacks, again.
I have to say I'm disappointed with Wolverine Origins overall so far. The series started with Wolverine doing things because of what happened in his past, but more time is being spent on reliving his past then having him do things in the future. It's a shame because Wolverine should be more interesting than he's been so far.
2.5 out of 5 stars
July 6, 2021
This was fun. 3.25 stars.
It starts off with Wolverine visiting the grave of Cap and we learn what happened with them in the past. how they met during some mission to find Baron Von strucker and he almost became Cap's partner but then Bucky and their face off and all that. Their friendship and how it blossomed into this and its such a fun retcon and everything. I love how the writer explores the friendship through this lens and provides a more detailed view of how Logan felt about Cap and how he inspired Logan. Then taking out the enemies and the betrayal, the fight and everything and how he laments his loss. And finally a tale about his love life with Seraph which was meh.
Its an okayish volume with great banter between Cap and Logan and shows how they meet, some dialogue felt clunky and weird but good to see the canucklehead team up with the Sentinel of Liberty and I really like the respect between the two and Fury. Way has been making so many retcons and for the most part I have liked them but this one felt weird and forced sort of. But then again it makes for a compelling read. The art is growing on me slowly and next up: Deadpool!
It starts off with Wolverine visiting the grave of Cap and we learn what happened with them in the past. how they met during some mission to find Baron Von strucker and he almost became Cap's partner but then Bucky and their face off and all that. Their friendship and how it blossomed into this and its such a fun retcon and everything. I love how the writer explores the friendship through this lens and provides a more detailed view of how Logan felt about Cap and how he inspired Logan. Then taking out the enemies and the betrayal, the fight and everything and how he laments his loss. And finally a tale about his love life with Seraph which was meh.
Its an okayish volume with great banter between Cap and Logan and shows how they meet, some dialogue felt clunky and weird but good to see the canucklehead team up with the Sentinel of Liberty and I really like the respect between the two and Fury. Way has been making so many retcons and for the most part I have liked them but this one felt weird and forced sort of. But then again it makes for a compelling read. The art is growing on me slowly and next up: Deadpool!
June 16, 2018
pretty sure there’s a curse on captain america that automatically makes any story he appears in boring as hell
March 6, 2021
Our War, volume 4 of Wolverine: Origins, and a continuation of my revisit of the character.
This volume unfortunately hits a bump in the road. Where the previous volumes have balanced the past and present well, and tied them together. This volume stays firmly focussed on the past and does not really move the present storyline forward.
After the events of the first Civil War, something has happened to Captain America. This causes Logan to recall when he first met the Sentinel of Liberty in World War II, plus Bucky Barnes, and Nick Fury. It’s entertaining to see these characters team up and fight Hydra.
It is good to see Wolverine and Captain America’s relationship fleshed out, especially after their confrontation back in volume 1 of this series. We get to see a less experienced Cap, but Logan at that point begins looking up to him as a hero, and in some ways a role model for who he could be.
We also get the appearance of Madripoor, a location that is tied in with a lot of Wolverine storylines over the years. It makes sense the character would return here. This Return to Madripoor arc is also the place the furthers out main plot forward.
The art styles of this volume were mixed. For the main story of Our War we get the same artwork and colouring styles of the previous volumes. For the Return to Madripoor section we get a very different art style, with a more beastly looking Wolverine and a very muted colour palette. This style just didn’t work for me.
Overall not a bad continuation of the series as it fills out backstory for Logan and relationships with key Marvel characters. It’s just a shame it didn’t have the same balance that previous volumes did. It was however fun to see the Captain America and Wolverine team up.
This volume unfortunately hits a bump in the road. Where the previous volumes have balanced the past and present well, and tied them together. This volume stays firmly focussed on the past and does not really move the present storyline forward.
After the events of the first Civil War, something has happened to Captain America. This causes Logan to recall when he first met the Sentinel of Liberty in World War II, plus Bucky Barnes, and Nick Fury. It’s entertaining to see these characters team up and fight Hydra.
It is good to see Wolverine and Captain America’s relationship fleshed out, especially after their confrontation back in volume 1 of this series. We get to see a less experienced Cap, but Logan at that point begins looking up to him as a hero, and in some ways a role model for who he could be.
We also get the appearance of Madripoor, a location that is tied in with a lot of Wolverine storylines over the years. It makes sense the character would return here. This Return to Madripoor arc is also the place the furthers out main plot forward.
The art styles of this volume were mixed. For the main story of Our War we get the same artwork and colouring styles of the previous volumes. For the Return to Madripoor section we get a very different art style, with a more beastly looking Wolverine and a very muted colour palette. This style just didn’t work for me.
Overall not a bad continuation of the series as it fills out backstory for Logan and relationships with key Marvel characters. It’s just a shame it didn’t have the same balance that previous volumes did. It was however fun to see the Captain America and Wolverine team up.
May 20, 2018
3,5*
The death of Captain America during Civil War I brings back memories to Logan. So we're back in the early 40's when he first encountered Steve Rogers, James Buchanan and one Nick Fury.
Let's be honest, this book doesn't add much to the main story. The plot is not very complicated but the motivations of Logan's boss are as yet obscure to say the least. Anyway it's a cool one. Way has already nailed Logan's voice and does the same with Steve and even Bucky, Nick Fury being merely supporting cast.
There's action- always a pleasure to get see Cap kick Nazi's asses- and some good ideas like the way Steve had difficulties to impose himself as a leader at first or the ways a shield can be used.
Old characters like Seraph come back into play- the annual that closes the book being totally centered on her and a name that'll have lots of importance is dropped and that's about it for the main plot.
Steve Dillon continues to illustrate the regular issues but Kaare Andrews does a great job on the Annual.
This particular volume is non-essential as to the main plot but remains an enjoyable read all the same.
The death of Captain America during Civil War I brings back memories to Logan. So we're back in the early 40's when he first encountered Steve Rogers, James Buchanan and one Nick Fury.
Let's be honest, this book doesn't add much to the main story. The plot is not very complicated but the motivations of Logan's boss are as yet obscure to say the least. Anyway it's a cool one. Way has already nailed Logan's voice and does the same with Steve and even Bucky, Nick Fury being merely supporting cast.
There's action- always a pleasure to get see Cap kick Nazi's asses- and some good ideas like the way Steve had difficulties to impose himself as a leader at first or the ways a shield can be used.
Old characters like Seraph come back into play- the annual that closes the book being totally centered on her and a name that'll have lots of importance is dropped and that's about it for the main plot.
Steve Dillon continues to illustrate the regular issues but Kaare Andrews does a great job on the Annual.
This particular volume is non-essential as to the main plot but remains an enjoyable read all the same.
August 22, 2022
3.5 Stars
This volume was set almost entirely in the past, in 1941 to be exact. We see Wolverine's first interactions with Cap and Bucky. It's still a little odd to see Wolverine basically as a "bad guy", which is what he was back in the day, but that had always been hinted at even before his origin was revealed and we started to see details of his past. The "black ops" that we heard whispered about are now being revealed. All roads seem to lead to Romulus.
It was interesting to see an inexperienced Captain America and a more vicious Bucky, giving a glimpse of the Winter Soldier to come.
Overall a good read, but for some reason I just can't quite get into this series the way I'd like to.
This volume was set almost entirely in the past, in 1941 to be exact. We see Wolverine's first interactions with Cap and Bucky. It's still a little odd to see Wolverine basically as a "bad guy", which is what he was back in the day, but that had always been hinted at even before his origin was revealed and we started to see details of his past. The "black ops" that we heard whispered about are now being revealed. All roads seem to lead to Romulus.
It was interesting to see an inexperienced Captain America and a more vicious Bucky, giving a glimpse of the Winter Soldier to come.
Overall a good read, but for some reason I just can't quite get into this series the way I'd like to.
February 24, 2014
WWII tale, with Cap and Wolv and including Bucky showing what a bad ass he was.
The annual a tale of his past with Seraph and another teaser for Romulus.
The annual a tale of his past with Seraph and another teaser for Romulus.
April 18, 2009
I'd read the individual issues a while back, but my son got this from the library and I reread it this morning. I really enjoyed this despite the liberties that Way took with the characters.
As is often the case, the characters overlap and connect in ways that are kind of over the top and at times contradict. In this case Logan and Cap meet in Madripoor in 1941, but later on he says he's been fighting with the Canadian forces in Europe since 1939. Bucky is a hard-ass intelligence agent and much older than usually portrayed. Natalia Romanov is apparently a teenager during WWII? Like I said - a bit too much all in all.
More over the top tie-ins Nick Fury meeting Cap and Logan. Cap explaining his shield is a weapon and a defense to which Fury says, "Hmm.... Shield?" I laughed at that being the supposed birth of his infamous orginazation. Von Strucker was very well done. Zemo appeared. Hydra was born. Sabretooth was there, Cyber was there, Romulus is in the background. Seraph was there too.
Actually, the more I write, the more I realize that this book was just way too packed with tie-ins. It is like the Forrest Gump of the Marvel Universe with pictures of Logan pasted into every aspect of its history.
Way is not a bad writer and this was enjoyable, but it was overkill to try to cram every character possible into the book.
As is often the case, the characters overlap and connect in ways that are kind of over the top and at times contradict. In this case Logan and Cap meet in Madripoor in 1941, but later on he says he's been fighting with the Canadian forces in Europe since 1939. Bucky is a hard-ass intelligence agent and much older than usually portrayed. Natalia Romanov is apparently a teenager during WWII? Like I said - a bit too much all in all.
More over the top tie-ins Nick Fury meeting Cap and Logan. Cap explaining his shield is a weapon and a defense to which Fury says, "Hmm.... Shield?" I laughed at that being the supposed birth of his infamous orginazation. Von Strucker was very well done. Zemo appeared. Hydra was born. Sabretooth was there, Cyber was there, Romulus is in the background. Seraph was there too.
Actually, the more I write, the more I realize that this book was just way too packed with tie-ins. It is like the Forrest Gump of the Marvel Universe with pictures of Logan pasted into every aspect of its history.
Way is not a bad writer and this was enjoyable, but it was overkill to try to cram every character possible into the book.
February 19, 2012
I didn't think this book was quite as good as the previous volumes. Here, the main plotline runs against the death of Steve Rogers, so we go chasing Cap, Bucky, Fury, and Wolverine around WWII for a while. The discussion between Nick Fury and Captain America about the shield is completely priceless, though, and will remain one of my favorite comic-book moments.
Also: this book is collected in a strange order. The Annual at the end clearly goes somewhere between issue 1 and 4. I think between chapters 2 and 3, maybe? Anyway, it's not a huge deal, but there is a bit of jarring information in one chapter that is unexplained until you read the last chapter. (So Wolverine's visit to Madripoor at the end of the book clearly happened before the events of the middle of the book.)
Also: this book is collected in a strange order. The Annual at the end clearly goes somewhere between issue 1 and 4. I think between chapters 2 and 3, maybe? Anyway, it's not a huge deal, but there is a bit of jarring information in one chapter that is unexplained until you read the last chapter. (So Wolverine's visit to Madripoor at the end of the book clearly happened before the events of the middle of the book.)
October 26, 2009
I would have liked this more if a different artist had been involved. Steve Dillon's figures and compositions are really stiff, and all of his characters' faces look exactly the same. It's like Mr. Potato Head, where you stick different wigs, mustaches, and masks on the same model.
April 19, 2016
2nd read.
A love letter of reminiscence from Logan to Cap, after his murder marking the end of Civil War...tie ins to meeting first time, growing to like and respect him, also the uneasy relationship with Bucky, and meeting Fury for the first time. Nice to see things in a different light.
A love letter of reminiscence from Logan to Cap, after his murder marking the end of Civil War...tie ins to meeting first time, growing to like and respect him, also the uneasy relationship with Bucky, and meeting Fury for the first time. Nice to see things in a different light.
November 11, 2016
Post Civil War, Logan remembers a WWII mission with Cap and Bucky, and what he does isn't very nice. Fits Origins dark confessional tone of all the terrible things Wolverine has done in the past. Co-stars Nick Fury and Hydra. Not terribly riveting.
March 2, 2022
Following the death of Captain America, Wolverine breaks into the memorial site for his fallen friend and recounts the wartime they spent together and how their friendship developed. Nestled in the midst of Logan's discovery of his true self, it still holds a candle with filling in some holes in Wolverine's memory, but is a bit obscure compared to the other installments in this collection.
Volumes 1-3 focus on Wolverine's backstory and son, but this volume focuses on Cap and him. Again, it's not a bad story and helps to humanize Wolverine further, but it seems out of place for the story arc that Origins has established. It does, however, as always, end with a bang that will bleed into the "final" volume.
Volumes 1-3 focus on Wolverine's backstory and son, but this volume focuses on Cap and him. Again, it's not a bad story and helps to humanize Wolverine further, but it seems out of place for the story arc that Origins has established. It does, however, as always, end with a bang that will bleed into the "final" volume.
June 28, 2019
A series of reminisces about the relationship between Wolverine, Bucky, and Captain America, topped at the back with a solo story about the crazed Canucklehead. The Hand and Hydra play bit parts, and retconned in to bolster the stories of Strucker and Baron Zemo.
Normally I find retcons annoying as hell, but these stories were entertaining, and actually made sense when plugged into the Captain America legend.
Normally I find retcons annoying as hell, but these stories were entertaining, and actually made sense when plugged into the Captain America legend.
September 5, 2017
spoiler alert.
Bucky is now the adult in the relationship, he has orders from above Steve, and he's as cold blooded as Wolverine. swell. didn't like the Bucky America/ Winter Soldier story line much. guess this adds to the explanation how he could become the Winter Soldier. and Cap's wings are so small they might as well be painted on.
Bucky is now the adult in the relationship, he has orders from above Steve, and he's as cold blooded as Wolverine. swell. didn't like the Bucky America/ Winter Soldier story line much. guess this adds to the explanation how he could become the Winter Soldier. and Cap's wings are so small they might as well be painted on.
February 22, 2018
Continuing the great X-read of 2017/18...
This is a decent enough story of Wolvie working with Cap and Bucky during WWII. I would say that it is less enjoyable than the last volume of this series but worth a read if you are working through x history. I'd still put it in the top half of Wolverine stories overall.
This is a decent enough story of Wolvie working with Cap and Bucky during WWII. I would say that it is less enjoyable than the last volume of this series but worth a read if you are working through x history. I'd still put it in the top half of Wolverine stories overall.
March 6, 2022
Read for background during The X Lives & Deaths of Wolverine & Live of Wolverine event of 2020.
January 14, 2024
Fun addition to the backstories of Logan, Cap, and Bucky. It was really interesting to see kid Bucky being such a badass, I hadn’t been very aware of that since I actually don’t know a ton about his comic backstory before the Winter Soldier era.
October 9, 2017
Fantastic!
This is good old fashion wolverine fun. Do yourself a favour and pick this one up. The annual that's included has spectacular art. Enjoy
This is good old fashion wolverine fun. Do yourself a favour and pick this one up. The annual that's included has spectacular art. Enjoy
April 15, 2019
This was a little more 'meh' for me. Felt more like a Captain America tribute vis-a-vis Wolverine, than an actual Wolverine comic.
June 19, 2020
Not my cup of tea sadly. I love the series so far, but this was really really boring. Hope this was just a hick-up and the rest of the series will continue to be awesome :)
August 29, 2020
This o e was the weakest in the series so far, but still good
April 22, 2016
Other than the art style, which is consistently bad in this series, this was an enjoyable story. As a tie-in to Captain America's death at the end of the Civil War event, we have a story of Wolverine reminiscing about how he and Captain America first met during World War II. I appreciated how some of the flashbacks had an effect of mimicking the damaged paper of an old comic book. The story itself features a Wolverine who is not a nice man and a Captain America that hasn't yet come into his confidence. We also see some early interactions between Nick Fury, Bucky, and the Black Widow, further expanding their shared history. Despite showing them meeting many years prior, this book makes it quite clear why Captain America does not much care for Wolverine when they meet in other books. I also appreciate how the story in the annual ties the flashback story into the ongoing Wolverine Origins story. This book does a lot of things that can drag a book down, but manages to pull them off with grace.
January 12, 2010
The art and story struggle to make this "revisionist" story of Logan and Cap's first meeting entertaining, but ultimately fall short. Stories like this are all too predictable despite the twists forced onto the characters. The real suprise here is Bucky. The cover and other splash pages hint at a hardened edge of this pansy little character who turned Captain America into such a sop for so many years. The authors truly deliver- I've never seen (even in these Watchmen-esque retoolings) someone in such a ridiculous costume act so bad-ass. The concept of his relationship with Cap is a sensible alternative to the "Robin" genre of war heroes drafting young boys to be sidekicks. I have to ultimately recommend this trade paperback to Marvel comic book fans.
August 9, 2022
This volume is mostly flashbacks; Logan looking back to when he first met Captain America. Since I’m still confused on the order of things this was a little confusing because I didn’t know where to place it in the story except in the past somewhere. The fact that I don't know who Nick Fury or Bucky are, also didn't help matters. But more is being revealed about how much Logan has been used and manipulated in his past. I didn’t particularly like the Annual # 1 at the end of the volume. It’s a totally different artwork style and that threw me a little because I hadn’t really realized that we’d moved to a totally different story track. But I’m still interested and still reading. I’ll figure it all out eventually. Until then I’ll just keep reading what I can get my hands on.
June 23, 2018
Our War (#16-20). This arc has a strong start, as it feels like it's integrating a lot of the story already told through Origins, particularly the Cyber and Seraph stories running through the 10s and 30s. Unfortunately, we never quite see how Logan's time in Madripoor and his service in WWII connect. Worse, his mind-controlled behavior in WWII makes him an unlikeable protagonist. Meanwhile, in the present day, there's literally nothing happening. Overall, what could have been a strong story thus ends up somewhat weak [3/5].
September 25, 2014
I always love Steve Dillon's art, and this is no exception.
This is a set of stories, mostly told in flashback, to a early adventure with Captain America, Bucky, Nick Fury, and the Black Widow. It's ok, but the storytelling and comic art is great.
Then there is a final story with art by Kaare Andrews, which is quite different in tone, though mostly successful on its own. I have mixed feelings about Andrews' art... It seems different every time, depending on the story. This one is just ok.
Mildly recommended.
This is a set of stories, mostly told in flashback, to a early adventure with Captain America, Bucky, Nick Fury, and the Black Widow. It's ok, but the storytelling and comic art is great.
Then there is a final story with art by Kaare Andrews, which is quite different in tone, though mostly successful on its own. I have mixed feelings about Andrews' art... It seems different every time, depending on the story. This one is just ok.
Mildly recommended.
August 9, 2016
Wolvie's role in WWII is played out here. His first meeting with not just Cap and Bucky but also Nick Fury. It's fun seeing how Nick is destined to form SHIELD and also how much of a hot head Bucky was. This really should have been a Cap book, because it features his first mission. It's really interesting to see him develop. It's also interesting to see how much of a badass Bucky could be. I really thought he was just a sidekick. But his bad-assery, opens up the door to wondering if there's more to Bucky that first appears.
No Dakken, or any present-day action in this one.
No Dakken, or any present-day action in this one.
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