Vozes da Marvel: Orgulho, Vol. 2

Marvel's Voices

by Charlie Jane Anders, Danny Lore, Lucas Werneck

Uma celebração de personagens e criadores LGBTQIA+! Charlie Jane Anders, sucesso de vendas e autora vencedora de inúmeros prêmios, introduz uma nova figura ao Universo Marvel - e essa não vai ser a última vez que você vai ouvir falar dela! Christopher Cantwell vai mergulhar no complexo legado da Serpente da Lua em uma história intensa através do tempo e do espaço. O vencedor do Eisner, Andrew Wheeler, faz sua estreia na Marvel com o verdadeiro deus do amor: Hércules! Alyssa Wong, vencedora de múltiplos prêmios como o Nebula, World Fantasy e outros mais, reúne os Jovens Vingadores em uma história que vai garantidamente agradar os velhos e novos fãs da equipe! E isso é só o começo! Uma coleção de perspectivas únicas e incríveis do adorado Universo Marvel!

Genres: Comics, Marvel, LGBT, Queer, Graphic Novels, Comic Book, Young Adult

112 pages, Hardcover

Published June 1, 2023

About the author

My latest book is Victories Greater Than Death. Coming in August: Never Say You Can't Survive: How to Get Through Hard Times By Making Up Stories.

Previously: All the Birds in the Sky, The City in the Middle of the Night, and a short story collection, Six Months, Three Days, Five Others.

Coming soon: An adult novel, and a short story collection called Even Greater Mistakes.

I used to write for a site called io9.com, and now I write for various places here and there.

I won the Emperor Norton Award, for “extraordinary invention and creativity unhindered by the constraints of paltry reason.” I've also won a Hugo Award, a Nebula Award, a William H. Crawford Award, a Theodore Sturgeon Award, a Locus Award and a Lambda Literary Award.

My stories, essays and journalism have appeared in Wired Magazine, the Boston Review, Conjunctions, Tin House, Slate, MIT Technology Review, the New York Times, the Washington Post, the San Francisco Chronicle, Tor.com, Lightspeed Magazine, McSweeney’s, The Magazine of Fantasy & Science Fiction, Asimov’s Science Fiction Magazine, ZYZZYVA, Strange Horizons, Apex Magazine, Uncanny Magazine, 3 AM Magazine, Flurb.net, Monkey Bicycle, Pindeldyboz, Instant City, Broken Pencil, and in tons and tons of anthologies.

I organize Writers With Drinks, which is a monthly reading series here in San Francisco that mashes up a ton of different genres. I co-host a Hugo Award-winning podcast, Our Opinions Are Correct, with Annalee Newitz.

Back in 2007, Annalee and I put out a book of first-person stories by female geeks called She’s Such a Geek: Women Write About Science, Technology and Other Nerdy Stuff. There was a lot of resistance to doing this book, because nobody believed there was a market for writing about female geeks. Also, Annalee and I put out a print magazine called other, which was about pop culture, politics and general weirdness, aimed at people who don’t fit into other categories. To raise money for other magazine, we put on events like a Ballerina Pie Fight – which is just what it sounds like – and a sexy show in a hair salon where people took off their clothes while getting their hair cut.

I used to live in a Buddhist nunnery, when I was a teenager. I love to do karaoke. I eat way too much spicy food. I hug trees and pat stone lions for luck. I talk to myself way too much when I’m working on a story.

Reviews

[Igel :) · Rating 4 out of 5]

3.5 🌟
Die Geschichten an sich waren mir persönlich immer ein bisschen zu kurz und zu schnell erzählt.
Vielleicht wäre es besser gewesen anstatt ganz vieler kurzer Geschichten lieber 3-4 längere zu erzählen, bei welchen man dann auch tiefer auf die Charaktere eingehen kann.
Ansonsten aber sehr bunt und divers mit viel Vielfalt. 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️ Es war auch sehr schön zu sehen dass es in den Geschichten auch nicht nur um die "klassischen Labels" ging , sondern auch mal um so etwas wie Micro Labels .

[Lulu (the library leopard)]

1) Please for the love of god can we get a new ongoing Young Avengers comic it's been like 10 years
2) "Permanent Sleepover" was good and I'm excited to see the story continued in New Mutants!
3) I did not read any of the handbook entries in the back.
4) Rictor and Shatterstar Pride story when :(
5) I hope the trans superhero support group turns up in other stuff, that story was fun.

['Nathan Burgoine · Rating 5 out of 5]

100% bought this for the Charlie Jane Anders story and gaaaaah, I want to know more.

Enjoyed the whole thing more-or-less cover-to-cover (especially the queer youth group that popped up a few times). Need a queer win, and this felt like a queer win.

[literarygay · Rating 5 out of 5]

sobbing crying screaming i loved this so so much

[Sasa · Rating 3 out of 5]

A better but still disappointing entry into the Pride series from Marvel for different reasons but let me get into rating each story (writers and artists named in each):

- "All My Exes In The Nexus" by Alyssa Wong and Stephen Byrne: 5/5 - a really cute story about Loki wanting to hangout with his friends and coming up with an intricate plan to get them to do so.
- "Ancient & Modern" by Andrew Wheeler, Brittney L. Williams, and Jose Villarrubia: 3/5
- "LGBT-D" by Grace Freud, Scott B. Henderson, Lee Townsend, and Brittany Peer: 2/5
- "Perfectly Scene" by Danny Lore, Lucas Werneck, and Michael Wiggam: 2/5
- "Stay Outta My Mind Turf, Jack" by Christopher Cantwell, Kei Zama, and Rico Renzi: 2/5
- "Over The Rainbow" by Ira Madison III, Lorenzo Susi, and Rachelle Rosenberg: 5/5 - omg let valKYRIE MAKEOUT WITH FLOKI!!
- "Permanent Sleepover" by Charlie Jane Anders, Roe Stein, Ted Brandt, Tamra Bonvillain, and Naseem Jamnia: 5/5 - a little angsty, very charming, very good, might be triggering for trans/nb people who had bad coming out experiences with parents/guardians but it's off-page. Also absolutely loved the peanuts-gang style delivery of flashbacks.

The variant I got was the Jen Bartel variant because she's one of my favorite artists and I love her~ like look at this:

I can't figure out how to add this cover to this entry and Google is unhelpful so I'll just have to show y'all in this review 😂 Like Marvel's introductory issue, most of the characters on any of the covers didn't show up in any of the stories!! It's really upsetting that they keep doing this. I was looking forward to a sapphic Black Cat story 😫

Last year's Pride issue was a self-congratulatory, half-baked mess with single-page "stories." This year's issue read like Marvel compiled some good stories for every kind of reader and then forgot how many pages they needed to fill so they just slapped together a compendium of characters in history that made up 1/4th of the entire issue like???? I wanna read cute gay stories. Nobody asked for this! This is a lot better than last year's issue, but it suffers from too much exposition. I'm grateful to all of the creators. They did a wonderful job and there was something for everyone in this issue. $10 was a scam, especially for me because I only enjoyed 3 stories and a bulk of the issue was made up of character infodumps. Marvel has the means to do better and I'm waiting for them to stop crawling toward progress.

[Guilherme Smee · Rating 4 out of 5]

PARA TUDO! Primeiro eu preciso dizer que eu fui citado no editorial desta edição, como referência de pesquisa acadêmica sobre super-heróis e sexualidade pela querida Dandara Palankof, editora desta obra e escritora do texto de abertura. Depois, preciso falar que, como a edição do Orgulho anterior, essa também traz textos adicionais falando sobre alguns dos principais casais LGBTQIAPN+ da Marvel Comics. Um deles, por exemplo, eu nem sabia que existia, Taku e Venenno, das histórias de Don MacGregor no Pantera Negra e que a Marvel revitaliza aqui com uma HQ inédita. Assim como de outros casais como Hulkling e Wiccano (que também tem um especial publicado aqui), Hercules e Marvel Boy, Serpente da Lua e Phylla-Vell, além de uma história com Demolição e outra com Escape, a nova heroína mutante e trans da Marvel. Uma edição bastante divertida, principalmente nas histórias curtas, que vão agradar pessoas LGBTQIAPN+ por reparação histórica de anos sem representações nos comics de super-heróis.

[heidi · Rating 4 out of 5]

Lovely. I enjoyed pretty much all of the stories, but Permanent Sleepover legit made me tear up. I really, really hope this series continues every year for Pride.

The first story with Loki & the Young Avengers where they snuck in a Norse mythology joke (see the heartbroken horse among Loki's exes ahahahahahaaahhh 😂😂) was freaking BRILLIANT. The way I cackled when the joke hit, lol. Plenty of things to like in this issue, too, from the history of queer Marvel characters slipped in between the stories to the clean and beautiful artwork to the panels where the young mutants called out Emma Frost / Krakoa's xenophobic, insular foreign policies… like I said, much to love and enjoy here.

MUTANT AND PROUD <3

[Shaira · Rating 3 out of 5]

Słodkie, niższa ocena bo niektóre historie ciut mnie nudziły, były po prostu nie dla mnie, ale ostatnia mnie nieźle zaciekawiła

[Eva B. · Rating 4 out of 5]

This was so fun! Permanent Sleepover was the obvious standout but they were all super cute.
Also put Nadia in the next Pride volume (or the 2024 one since I'm reading this one a few years late)

[Tara]

gay

[Regina · Rating 4 out of 5]

I didn't read all the stories only ones of the characters I know about/care about. I definitely think I enjoyed the valkyrie one the best especially with thor saying he's an ally 🤣. I also liked the loki one. So basically I liked the stories including loki. I'm definitely not biased

[Shadooow · Rating 4 out of 5]

It was a good comic. Glad to read a few stories about the pride characters in the marvel universe

[Camila Rebolledo · Rating 5 out of 5]

Me gustó aún más que el anterior. Las historias están más desarrolladas y parecen tener más profundidad. La de Wiccan y Hulkling fue mi favorita, creo que es una con la que podemos identificarnos quienes estamos en relaciones monogamas largas. Me gusta la parte de historia sobre los cómics.

[Emma · Rating 2 out of 5]

The fact that we are finally getting trans Superheroes is everything.

[Holly · Rating 3 out of 5]

This was a perfectly average collection.

I liked All My Exes In The Nexus (because I'm a sucker for anything Young Avengers, especially if it includes Billy, Teddy & America).

LGBT-D, Ancient & Modern and Stay Outta My Mind Turf, Jack were all alright.

Perfectly Scene was pretty good, I mainly liked it because it canonised characters that have been queer-coded for a long time.

Over The Rainbow felt cheesy at best. I think it had the same issue as Super Pride in the DC Pride 2022 issue - both suggest that Pride is a party. And it is but it shouldn't just be defined as a party/celebration because there's still so much to work towards - especially for ppl who aren't white, cis, gays. Pride began as a protest and it still is for a lot of people.

Permanent Sleepover was probably my favourite story. I really like Shela Sexton and thought it was so cool that Morgan Red is a dual pronoun use (he/they). I also think it's great that his power is turning stuff into chocolate, love seeing essentially useless mutant abilities. Honestly, I loved the little comics about their childhoods and the main story about the heist. Just two trans best friends stealing things and trying to look after each other made for such a good story.

I also liked the informative bit about the history of queer characters in Marvel that came about half-way through. Although could've been proofread because Brian became Brain far too many times.

The profiles on a few queer characters was interesting towards the end but another story taking up those pages might've been nicer (they had a lot of dense text).

[emma · Rating 4 out of 5]

4 stars out of obligation at this point i think. i mean i liked some of the stories so they defo deserved this rating but yeah idk i never have any expectations for pride anthologies cause its only ever really the covers that serve.

i liked the loki ft the young avengers story kinda you know i missed my besties but i wish more of them showed up but nice to see marvel acknowledge loki’s queerness (even if it was in a weird way idk). nice to see noh varr and hercules together. phylla vella and heather getting a story so iconic of them and it was a fun story. literally dont know or care about d-man or venomm and taku but their stories were cute enough cant be mad you know. asgard pride story was fun.

the last story with shela/escapade was so long sorry. i believe it was a character introduction and shes getting a story arc in new mutants but like idk i was just not interested in what was going on cause it was a lot thrown in your face for a character youve never met before like take it easy. i think the character and story are interesting but i dont know if this was the right place for it, for me anyway like i simply didnt care i was here for fun stories about my fave queer characters and couples.

basically marvel once again disappointing with their pride special cause like why have all these people on your cover and all these amazing queer characters that you always pay dust too and then not put them in either anthology or any comic series.

[Theo · Rating 3 out of 5]

Still weaker than the DC one, but an overall improvement.

Alex Phillips' introduction prose needed to explicitly call out the attacks on trans right, not just include that the "don't say gay bill" is also "don't say trans."

Making D-Man a trans man and having him lead a trans teen support group was excellent.

Both Loki stories were cute. I'm not surprised I could hear Hemsworth saying the lines Ira Madison III wrote for Thor.

"Permanent Sleepover" made me cry. I want 10,000 more stories with Shela and Morgan. (My childhood bff was also trans, and on the other side of the rainbow from me as these two are compared to each other. We didn't have the language younger gens do or any adult support, but the Peanuts-style flashbacks gave me all the memories.)

The rest were a little meh. I wanted to like "Perfectly Scene" but there was too much exposition for the reader to understand their backstory that they didn't feel like an established married couple.

The handbook entries shouldn't have been included to jack up the price, and ended the entire thing on a fart.

[Krista · Rating 4 out of 5]

I'll be honest, I picked this up entirely for Charlie Jane Anders, Ro Stein, Ted Brandt, Tamra Bonvillain, & Naseem Jamnia's introduction of Escapade (Shela Sexton) and Morgan Red in "Permanent Sleepover". I love Anders' dialog and pacing in general and it really fits well with this young teen superhero. It's the Pride issue, so you expect a certain amount of "very special issue" content in the stories and being not so much an origin story as a first look story, we get some parts of mostly Shela's coming out, both as a mutant, and as trans, told in delightful, Peanuts-style flashback as a side story, while the focus remains on her and Morgan's adventure of the moment, long term goals and challenges, means of bringing them into the broader Marvel family, with her transness being informative of her character while not being the focal point - which I'm glad we're seeing more of as we see more stories featuring trans characters by trans creators.

[Ross · Rating 3 out of 5]

It's a better try for Marvel, with more stories and less ...panels?

Standouts are the Escapade story. It's the start of a much larger story for them. I don't know if I'm a fan of them starting stories in these anthologies and carrying them over to main Marvel titles. That being said, it was angsty and well written.

'Comics De-Coded' by Angelique Roche, has a history lesson on how Marvel got LGBTQ+ relationships past the Comics Code (and then some stories featuring those characters)

More Super Trans Support Group, because...why not?

There's also Marvel Handbook entries for:
- Viv Vision
- Valykrie (Runa)
- Somnus
- Escapade
- Jumbo Carnation
- Kyle Beaubier-Jinadu (spouse to Northstar if'n you forgot)

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Bonus: Who shipped Noh-Varr and Hercules??

[Maigan · Rating 3 out of 5]

I always have such mixed feelings on collections such as these. I really want to like them, but I've never read one where I've been over the moon about every single story. I buy these every year because the covers look so promising, but the short stories collected inside feel as though they fall short. I don't know if it's in part to my bitterness of some of my favorite [queer] characters being reduced to background characters or deemed unimportant, but I have yet to find one of these that I've really loved.

I did adore the support group for the queer heroes, though. That was pretty adorable.

[Andi B · Rating 4 out of 5]

YA comic containing mainly short, fun, and sometimes awwww-inducing vignettes with a blend of young Marvel characters, including the introduction of Escapade (whose story by Charlie Jane Anders was my favorite of the collection). The stories range from good to fantastic and of course, celebrate the LGBTQ++ community in a variety of ways. If you're not typically a reader of comics, this might be a good way to dip your toes into the vast ocean that is the Marvel universe. It will help if you know who Loki is, but otherwise, the stories are enjoyable even without a lot of background knowledge. Recommended!

[Julie · Rating 4 out of 5]

After suffering through the confusion that is trying to find the correct edition for my German edition that matches the English one, it only got better from there.

Even if the story mix that is inside is a collection of both 2022 and 2023, both were worth reading. It introduces some well-known queer characters as well as some new ones.
The stories are quite short, which is to be expected, but they still managed to draw me into the story and made me want to find out more about them.

I am not going into a short story in great detail because of the edition dilemma, but Gwenpool, as an aroace icon, is so dear to me.

[Patrick · Rating 5 out of 5]

Absolutely loved being able to be seeing new characters and story lines. I'm glad that we're getting more lgbtqia representation in comic books and that we are seeing a acceptance of those characters. While yes there is still a long way to go it has drastically improved from where it was. Anthologies like this help to bridge those gaps and make it more acceptable in the mainstream. Again the artwork and the storytelling of these anthologies is a wonderful you get so many great different viewpoints and World building and artwork that it makes it so enjoyable to read.

[Mads · Rating 3 out of 5]

Pretty mixed quality here. There are some really interesting stories like “Stay Outta My Mind Turf, Jack” and the recurring appearances of the trans mutant youth support group. On the other hand, there’s the typo-riddled “history” section (is it Brian or Brain Falsworth?) and the confusing characterization of “Permanent Sleepover” (although I did really like the Charlie Brown-style bits). Overall pretty good, but I think DC’s Pride issue had a bit more substance this year.

[Ren · Rating 5 out of 5]

I'll say upfront that I unfortunately don't know a ton about Marvel anymore, and most of the heroes here were fairly new to me, but this was a downright treat. Everything felt solid, and although I may not know the characters well the art is beautiful and the writing is fluid. These little compilations are a great way to find out about new stories, and I stand by how much fun this was, I'm definitely going to investigate some of this further.

[RubiGiráldez RubiGiráldez · Rating 3 out of 5]

Sé que Marvel ha avanzado bastante (sobre todo con Loki) para que esta cabecera no se vea exclusivamente como puro marketing. Pero sí que hay bastante de lo que vemos en estas historietas que debería aparecer de forma orgánica en las cabeceras en curso como si nada. Al final, es divertido la historieta de Moondragon motera justamente por ser algo totalmente fuera de concretar del todo en la vida diaria del personaje.

[Ángel C · Rating 3 out of 5]

Entretenido a pesar que las historias cortas no suelen ser lo mio.

Guardianes de la galaxia en "mantente fuera de mi territorio mental, viejo" no le encontre sentido asi que puedo decir que fue la unica que no me gusto.

Runa la valquiria en "sobre el arcoiris"
La que mas me gusto con un Loki muy carismático me dejo con ganas ya que es relativamente corta.

"Pijamada permanente"
La historia más larga que me quede con la duda de que pasará porque dudo leer los nuevos mutantes... por ahora.

[Glyn · Rating 4 out of 5]

I think I like last year’s collection better, but I’m still very glad this exists. Charlie Jane Ander’s story in particular was very good, I’d like to see more of those characters! Also marvel seriously needs to name these better; I couldn’t find it on Marvel Unlimited so I had to read my physical copy.

[Skye · Rating 3 out of 5]

It is cool that this exists, but I would rather have those characters in longer and more authentic stories. But let’s see how the last story continues in the x-men. Really miss the Young Avengers plz Marvel, bring them back.

[Aethena Drake · Rating 4 out of 5]

A nice collection of short comic stories that introduce new and existing LGBTQIA characters.

Interesting reads with some very insightful tidbits in both the introduction, history of the characters, and the comics.