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Forever Ecstasy
Published in 1967, and possibly earlier, this book had the honor of being our most-requested title (after the addition of My Mother Taught Me, the other legitimate Tor Kung, which earlier held the honor). An amazing story about schoolboys, led by Paul and the devious but cowardly Rick, who at the end of the schoolyear find themselves holding a young geometry teacher... right where they want her. Also a subplot involving Paul and his new home.
198 pages, Kindle Edition
First published January 1, 1968
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Tor Kung
5 books3 followersTor Kung was the pseudonym of the American poet Jack Gilbert and his co-author Jean Maclean. They wrote two erotic novels together, which were both published by the short-lived Danish Olympia Press; My mother taught me (1964) and Forever Ecstasy (1968).
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March 29, 2020
The rather blank Just see what you make of it should have warned me, as normally the recommendation for books in this genre would be It’s a fun read, or something similar. As I’ve learnt ages ago never to judge a book by its cover, I did read the book, even though I wasn’t particularly taken with the dustjacket of the Dutch edition (but that's just a matter of different tastes, I guess).
The two principle women in the book, Michele Otis and Louise Bennet, are both victims (my word) of child abuse. They are both fine with it (so they say) and it made them who they are, something of which they are proud (again, so they say). This pretty much sums up the reason for my rating the book one star, as I can’t honestly see the need to write an erotic novel in which an author decides to create characters with a background of child abuse, even though I do realise a fictional story is nothing more than an author’s fantasy. But still.
Oddly enough, the book is not badly written for its genre, as stylistically speaking it could be (a lot) worse. Maybe that’s where the authors’ true language skills shine through? The ‘physical capacities’, to put it nicely, of the characters in the book are unrealistically portrayed, as they usually are in this genre, but that doesn’t really matter much as long as the story is fun to read. But the descriptions of incest and child abuse I can’t find even a little bit exciting, and it took the ‘fun’ out of reading the book. So for me the question was: Why is it there? Why did the authors feel the need to put it in this novel? If the child abuse and incest in the book were meant to make a point, then yes, maybe, but otherwise? No, definitely not.
Having written the above, I must add that there were a few things that seemed to make it more than just an erotic, or pornographic if you like, novel. The first one is when Michele says she hates men who expect sexual favours from a woman when they have taken her out for an expensive meal, as if the value of a woman can be measured by the price of the meal. She gives a further example when she adds that men can’t expect sexual favours just because a woman has allowed them to have a bit of ‘dry sex’, as it is called in the Dutch edition. I did wonder if this was a contribution by the female half of the couple who together used the pseudonym Tor Kung... There is also some truth in the portrayal of the way Louise was raised by her mother, because strong religious views in order to repress sexuality have never helped anyone, as they often have the opposite effect. Later on in the book there is even a slight hint of a philosophical subject, when Michele remarks that the child abuse might be hard to explain and even harder to grasp, and then adds the question whether it would be worse to raise a child in love (read child abuse) or to raise a child in hate? She adds that everyone raises their children to hate other religions, other nationalities and other skin colours. Now, whether you agree with this or not, it does give the reader something to think about (although I’m not sure most readers will, given the genre). So, whether the authors meant it or not, there might be slightly, but only just slightly, more to this book than one would suspect at first glance...
The two principle women in the book, Michele Otis and Louise Bennet, are both victims (my word) of child abuse. They are both fine with it (so they say) and it made them who they are, something of which they are proud (again, so they say). This pretty much sums up the reason for my rating the book one star, as I can’t honestly see the need to write an erotic novel in which an author decides to create characters with a background of child abuse, even though I do realise a fictional story is nothing more than an author’s fantasy. But still.
Oddly enough, the book is not badly written for its genre, as stylistically speaking it could be (a lot) worse. Maybe that’s where the authors’ true language skills shine through? The ‘physical capacities’, to put it nicely, of the characters in the book are unrealistically portrayed, as they usually are in this genre, but that doesn’t really matter much as long as the story is fun to read. But the descriptions of incest and child abuse I can’t find even a little bit exciting, and it took the ‘fun’ out of reading the book. So for me the question was: Why is it there? Why did the authors feel the need to put it in this novel? If the child abuse and incest in the book were meant to make a point, then yes, maybe, but otherwise? No, definitely not.
Having written the above, I must add that there were a few things that seemed to make it more than just an erotic, or pornographic if you like, novel. The first one is when Michele says she hates men who expect sexual favours from a woman when they have taken her out for an expensive meal, as if the value of a woman can be measured by the price of the meal. She gives a further example when she adds that men can’t expect sexual favours just because a woman has allowed them to have a bit of ‘dry sex’, as it is called in the Dutch edition. I did wonder if this was a contribution by the female half of the couple who together used the pseudonym Tor Kung... There is also some truth in the portrayal of the way Louise was raised by her mother, because strong religious views in order to repress sexuality have never helped anyone, as they often have the opposite effect. Later on in the book there is even a slight hint of a philosophical subject, when Michele remarks that the child abuse might be hard to explain and even harder to grasp, and then adds the question whether it would be worse to raise a child in love (read child abuse) or to raise a child in hate? She adds that everyone raises their children to hate other religions, other nationalities and other skin colours. Now, whether you agree with this or not, it does give the reader something to think about (although I’m not sure most readers will, given the genre). So, whether the authors meant it or not, there might be slightly, but only just slightly, more to this book than one would suspect at first glance...
March 14, 2014
A great book and an old favourite. Note/warning - under-aged participants.
[Warning, Spoilers!]
The portrayal of the sensual (not just sexual) relationships between Paul and his sister, Paul and Agathe the submissive girlfriend provided by his sister, Paul and his female teacher Miss Bennett, Miss Bennett and her domineering and violent blackmailer/lover Rick are well described.
There is a nice sense of sexual innocence and wonder in the way Paul sees his world as well as the normal youthful hormonal angst.
His (elder/married) sister is suitably decadent and erotic, saying things like "We will arrange for you to spy on the elaborate ritual of a man seducing me." She discusses prostitution thus - "After a million years, each flower-woman flourishes for a season or two and then begins to decline. We will buy them for you during their momentary perfection."
Miss Bennett is emotionally and physically abused and "trained" by Rick. Made to masturbate in public she cries - "I'm being trained. You are supposed to see. It is even more degrading if you are watching."
The story can have a dream-like air. When describing his sister's vulva after she has recently had sex with another man Peter provides a very detailed description of her genitals, as well as his impressions, such as - "It was like angels dreaming of lions eating roses. It was color blooming to texture. There was no way to express it in his head."
There is seduction, perversion, domination, submission, prostitution, sexual betrayal and reconciliation, all framed in the context of a young man's innocence and unquenchable desire.
Definitely worth a read if you like your hard core sex in a good story with well developed characters.
Note: Available from Olympiapress dot com
[Warning, Spoilers!]
The portrayal of the sensual (not just sexual) relationships between Paul and his sister, Paul and Agathe the submissive girlfriend provided by his sister, Paul and his female teacher Miss Bennett, Miss Bennett and her domineering and violent blackmailer/lover Rick are well described.
There is a nice sense of sexual innocence and wonder in the way Paul sees his world as well as the normal youthful hormonal angst.
His (elder/married) sister is suitably decadent and erotic, saying things like "We will arrange for you to spy on the elaborate ritual of a man seducing me." She discusses prostitution thus - "After a million years, each flower-woman flourishes for a season or two and then begins to decline. We will buy them for you during their momentary perfection."
Miss Bennett is emotionally and physically abused and "trained" by Rick. Made to masturbate in public she cries - "I'm being trained. You are supposed to see. It is even more degrading if you are watching."
The story can have a dream-like air. When describing his sister's vulva after she has recently had sex with another man Peter provides a very detailed description of her genitals, as well as his impressions, such as - "It was like angels dreaming of lions eating roses. It was color blooming to texture. There was no way to express it in his head."
There is seduction, perversion, domination, submission, prostitution, sexual betrayal and reconciliation, all framed in the context of a young man's innocence and unquenchable desire.
Definitely worth a read if you like your hard core sex in a good story with well developed characters.
Note: Available from Olympiapress dot com
May 12, 2011
Story of Louise Bennett, a high school geometry teacher and one of her students Paul, whose lives are entwined in two different tales of sexual awakenings. Miss Bennett is blackmailed by another student, Rick, when he takes pics of her making out with Paul. Rick forces Miss Bennett to dress provacatively in the class and to satisfy his desires outside of class, something Miss Bennett comes to enjoy. Meanwhile, Paul has his hands full, literally, with his older sister Michelle, who is married to an old lech and is herself completely debauched. Michelle wants to seduce her brother and bring him into her world of licentiousness and lewdness.
While this one is certainly taboo shattering, I didn't enjoy it as much as the other Kung title that I've read, "My Mother Taught Me". Tor Kung is a nom de porn for poet Jack Gilbert and it shows, as it's very well written with lots of flowery descriptions. Recommended for lovers of classic schoolteacher/incest smut. First published in 1967 by Olympia Press. This edition published in 2004 by Olympia Press as #6 in the New Traveller's Companion series.
While this one is certainly taboo shattering, I didn't enjoy it as much as the other Kung title that I've read, "My Mother Taught Me". Tor Kung is a nom de porn for poet Jack Gilbert and it shows, as it's very well written with lots of flowery descriptions. Recommended for lovers of classic schoolteacher/incest smut. First published in 1967 by Olympia Press. This edition published in 2004 by Olympia Press as #6 in the New Traveller's Companion series.
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