THE NEW BOOK FROM DEBORAH FRANCES-WHITE, BESTSELLING AUTHOR OF THE GUILTY FEMINIST
Six Conversations We're Scared to Have - from The Guilty Feminist will face up to one of the biggest challenges in feminism right now - how we can have difficult conversations well, how we can disagree well, how we can build bridges and change minds, including our own.
In Deborah's own words, ' Six Conversations... is a book I simply have to write. This is a dialogue I've been having with those I trust in private for a long time. This is a conversation I need to be brave enough to have in public. I am part of a movement that has called Time's Up on top-down power at the expense of those who have been used and discarded. I want to live in a world where people in marginalised groups have a real voice that enacts fast change. I also speak as someone whose formative years were spent in a high control group, where people rarely said what they meant. We said what we needed to, to avoid punishment and shunning which meant our words often didn't match our thoughts and actions. I know what that fosters and where it ends. I feel compelled to look at the way our society is changing and look at how we can mature together and build better, stronger, more usable bridges more quickly to make the world a genuinely better place for those who desperately need it to be. And isn't that all of us right now?'
Praise for Deborah Frances-White and THE GUILTY
'Breathes life into conversations about feminism' PHOEBE WALLER-BRIDGE
'Genius' SUNDAY TIMES
'Funny, fresh, thought-provoking' OBSERVER
'Very funny, very clever, very thoughtful and very relevant' DOLLY ALDERTON
'Everything you wanted to know about feminism but were afraid to ask' EMMA THOMPSON
'Quite possibly the defining feminist of our generation' ELIZABETH DAY
'Encouraging every woman to "I get to be heard. I deserve to be seen" ' DAILY EXPRESS
I feel like the last remaining bit of my frontal lobe developed as I was reading this book lol
The most refreshingly specific to NOW non-fiction I have read. Everything is changing so rapidly, and it is such a relief for someone to courageously and sensitively take hold of some of the most delicate social and political issues and explore them in such an intelligent and compassionate way.
This is a very white book written for white people, it's a decent start, but there's a lot missing. As an older (Gen X) nonbinary person, the conversation about trans and nonbinary people was about 80% right, but she dropped the ball suggesting TERF is a slur. It has never been, and will never become, a slur. Given the level of violence TERFS have and wish on trans and nonbinary people, the acronym will remain firmly in my lexicon.
Additionally, whilst JK Rowling is mentioned in relation to trans and nonbinary people, she is NOT identified as someone who has caused our community a great deal of pain and hate. This absolutely SHOULD have been noted, because she was very much a catalyst when she used and continues to use, her gigantic platform to hate on us. Not stating this, was a cowardly move.
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Everyone should read this book. Huge thanks to Deborah Frances-White for unpicking many of the difficult issues of our time (trans rights, patriarchy, race, feminism, cancel culture), and challenging some of my perceptions. I’m a better person for reading this book.
It seems like I’m the only person who didn’t enjoy this book, so take this with a grain of salt but I hated this. It was unnecessarily long, centred around the author’s own experiences which I felt didn’t add anything to the argument that was trying to be made. It was also packed full of different examples, yes it’s great to illustrate things and place them in history but this made it so dense and hard to get through, boring at points and unnecessarily long to make the point. It’s also important to bear in mind that despite referring extensively to social change movements, this book is centred around how to talk to people who have different viewpoints from you- yet referencing all the times in history when change has come from direct action and fairly unnuanced stand points because that is how progress is made.
This was full of hot takes which I didn’t agree with eg. her own individual experience of trigger warnings not being useful, and her idea tinstead we should be working through our triggers because there’s ‘no evidence isolated words can be triggering’ (paraphrased). I really disagree with this- it’s about giving people the power to choose to engage with content that may be upsetting. Don’t spring your idea of ‘healing’ on people. Also found the obsession with ‘stamm’ so irritating and still feel a bit confused about what it’s meant to mean.
I don’t necessarily feel like Deborah Francis White was the best person to write this book- it felt like someone on their high horse policing activism without truly understanding the motives behind taking certain stands. Nuance is often used as a bureaucratic block to prevent immediate action. Sometimes something is unjust and needs something immediate and the idea of sitting down and having these nuanced conversations comes later (eg. I don’t believe there can be a nuanced argument about a genocide or things where there is clearly one side)- but I’m willing to acknowledge that maybe this book is targeting me and maybe I should lead with nuance rather than feeling. If that’s the case then this book didn’t convince me to change my opinion. Quite frankly I found it hard to get through and boring. Some absolutely wild comparisons (eg. The founding fathers and individuals unable to buy devices without slave labour in China). And ‘History doesn’t have a clear right side’- errrrrrr there have always been people throughout history opposing bad things happening. There is no excuse for ignoring known injustices.
I do agree with some of this eg. The lack of inclusivity or forgiveness in activism isolating people but I just really didn’t get on with this. Maybe it’s because I listened to it in audiobook and the intonation felt a bit patronising, maybe this is targeted at me and I felt defensive. I don’t have the answers but I know I think all the celebrity reviews (notably from people not super engaged in activism) have overrated this.
A really excellent book, I really enjoyed it, as someone who does her best to avoid non-fiction!
Even if you don’t agree with every opinion/position DFW espouses, it really doesn’t matter - that’s quite literally not at all the point - she’s trying to get you to think critically, to develop flexibility in your reasoning, and develop your empathy so you can engage people in debate, champion your cause, and influence people to your way of thinking. It also espouses hope at a time where it can be so easy to wallow in self-defeat.
5.0 deeply thought provoking and invites questions. Deborah articulates everything in such simple and logical ways that it’s truly as art. Discusses major topics dividing society right now and gives structure on how to navigate those conversations.
loves this book, really brings the conversation to the tables, ideas on how to have these discussions and why it's important to have them, one of the most interesting and intelligent books I've read in a long while. well done!
This is a wonderful, powerful, and above all necessary book. By demonstrating clearly the importance of "reaching across the aisle", making genuine attempts to understand and share ideas, and retaining our basic humanity in interactions with all others, the author works towards the imperative goal of healing the divisions inherent in our polarised society.
This book will be a birthday present for more or less everyone I know for the foreseeable future, and I wish that everyone were able to read it.
I was disappointed with this book as I felt there was a lot of repetition of the main ideas and a huge amount of specific examples, which made it slightly jarring to go from flowing rhetoric about circles of empathy to a load of numbers about eugenics (for example). As other reviewers have mentioned, I found the audiobook to be slightly patronising and I was surprised as I am an avid listener of DFW's podcast, so was taken aback by the tone of this book. A good idea in principle, but it wasn't for me.
Loved this book. Deborah is just so smart, eloquent and always tirelessly fighting for the cause. Sorry to hear about the right wing backlash when trying to have smart conversations.
As a cult survivor and an activist I really related to this book. But I wish everyone would read it! It feels like it’s letting air back into the room of social justice culture. It’s getting stifling in there. A sure sign that the book ‘worked’ was that I found myself wishing White would engage philosophically more with the gender critical arguments in the relevant chapter - and I’m a trans person! Empathising and fraternising with a TERF? God forbid! There’s too many gems here to quote - and this five star review also doesn’t mean the book is perfect. Go read it.
As always Deborah is articulate, curious and thoughtful, open-minded and compassionate. We could all take a page out of this book (literally and figuratively), to try and understand why people might have different views to us, and how we can try and respond/react in a meaningful way rather than just shouting back.
Outstanding. *Everyone* should read this book, and that includes you. Yes, you, reading this review. I have spare copies if you want to borrow one.
If we're going to make a better world, we need to be compassionate, curious, radical, and pragmatic. The author expertly pulls a consistent thread through some of the thorniest issues of our time - cancel culture, free speech, gender non-conformity, how to respond to historical injustices - and gives us the tools to do better.
This should be a core foundational text for anyone who wants to change the world for the better. Read it, share it, practice it, live it.
I honestly bought this because I love Deborah Frances-White and her podcast, but this turned out to be one of those rare books that stay with you long after you’ve finished it. In fact, I don’t think I’m the same person I was when I first started reading it—especially when it comes to engaging with people who don’t share my core values.
This is such an essential and insightful read, and I know Deborah is an atheist, but this really is a true 'Bible' for those who have chosen social justice as their true religion.
Audiobook. In a world that feels like it’s regressing, everyone should read this book. An encouragement to bring back nuance and critical thinking, as well as evoke compassion and empathy. We all need this.
loved this, intelligent, clever and with humour, breaks down those conversations, how to have them and gives great insight as to why we need to have them, a perfect book for the times.
Very dense and at times had my cranium baffled (Ben LI 2025 ty). But worth a read re how to navigate a v polarised world with critical thinking and kindness
I found this such a useful and practical guide to reflecting on how we engage with others on challenging issues we face today. There are many important takeaways from this book, not least of which is looking in the mirror first. I am off to begin
This book is the author’s call for conversation, temperance, critical thinking, understanding, compassion and tolerance. I bought this book as I have been feeling similarly about society - Why does everything seem so polarised? Why is everyone seemingly so angry? How can I learn more about some of these issues and what do I need to know about topics that I don’t understand? I do consider myself a feminist, so resonated with much of what Frances-White writes, but there were multiple points of disagreement. Although she has attempted to write the chapters and balance all sides of an argument, her position on some topics was evident to see. However, she also achieved her stated goal of challenging assumptions. This book is a portal into wider views, looking at problems from another position, time, place or person. It is well-researched and provides evidence in the form of stories supported by source material that can be used in future conversations on these topics.
Why not a 5-star read (for me)? I’d consider myself comfortably within the target audience for this book, but found it a little inaccessible at times. The chapters - especially the conversation on gender nonconformity - are very long, and I feel would have benefited from being broken down. The writing style is itself conversational, but a little difficult to follow, jumping between ideas with only tenuous links. My concern for the book is that this will stymie readers from progressing, finishing and/or truly investing in the valuable content. Even having finished it, I feel it deserves a second read for me to fully digest what the author is trying to say, and I’m not convinced that it will hold the attention of some who would truly benefit from the learning and thought experimentation it could provoke.
Look I loved it. But I am the target market - I was maybe hoping for more guidance on how to have the conversations and less convincing on DFWs position on tricky subjects.
That being said this was more nuanced than similar books I've read, less judgemental and more action oriented.