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158 pages, Hardcover
First published July 12, 1996
Pinter: … I can tell you who I think are the great writers very simply. They’re so evident. They’re obvious.
Gussow: Name some obvious.
Pinter: Well, Dostoevski. This is in my mind. Joyce, Proust. They haven’t got their names for nothing. And Beckett. [Silence.]
Gussow: It it something to strive for, isn’t it?
Pinter: I don’t see it in those terms. I don’t have that kind of ambition. I mean you can’t strive to be a Great Writer.
Gussow: You can strive to be better.
Pinter: Always strive to be better.
A few weeks ago the U.S. sent missiles on Baghdad because they said Bush’s life had been threatened last year. This was blatantly a move on Clinton’s part to say, look, I can do this too. We have a great friend here, who’s a Syrian woman, Rana Kabbani. She’s a writer. One of her great friends was an Iraqi artist, called Leila al-Attar. She also ran a museum. She’s dead. Those missiles killed her and her husband, and members of her family. The next morning Clinton was on his way to church. Asked how he felt about the missile attack, he said, ‘I feel good about it, and I’m sure the American people will feel good about it as well.’ Well, that’s great! I’m very happy that he feels good, and the American people are going to feel good, according to him. That woman is dead, and there are plenty of others. This kind of action represents a terrible doublethink. The word ‘punish’ is used; that isn’t doublethink, it’s quite direct. But claims of freedom and democracy are thrown around all over the place – and don’t forget ‘Christian values’, too. I’m very surprised by the lack of criticism of United States foreign policy in the United States press. I’m surprised there isn’t a much more rigorous scrutiny. Death has been degutted.