I am giving 4.5 stars for Jefferson Fisher’s novel “The Next Conversation: Argue Less + Talk More.” As a New Year’s resolution for 2025, I wanted to make a point to improve my communication skills, work on my personal developments, and focus on healing previous traumas and pain into a source of creative expansion of growth. I did not know who Jefferson Fisher was prior to picking up this audiobook, but I had seen where an acquaintance on here had this on their “want to read” list and then I noticed that it was a nominee for Goodread’s “Best Audiobook of 2025.”
I had already read a few other communication books this year which ranged in how helpful I found them, with books like “Talk: The Science of Conversation and the Art of Being Ourselves” (⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️) and “SuperCommunicators: How to Unlock the Secret Language of Communication” (⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️) being incredibly helpful, to “Aglospeak: How Social Media is Transforming the Future of Language” (⭐️⭐️) which I was being generous with the two star rating.
So when I heard the introduction of Jefferson’s book, I was nervous that he was going to be more like the author of Aglospeak, especially because he got his level of fame from going viral on social media as a lawyer giving out his conversational tips and tricks. I was definitely judging the book to actually getting started. I almost returned the book then and there, and let me just say: I AM GRATEFUL I STUCK IT OUT! Almost all of my reservations would pop up as an emotional reaction to the way he brought something up, and almost as quickly as it would ruffle my tail feathers, he then addressed my area of concern. Just an example of this, would be his section that is all about stopping people from interrupting us by politely redirecting them back to your conversational goal. I thought at first he was going to be implying that people interrupt out of a malicious intent, which is just not true for those of us who are neurodivergent and have ADHD or Autism. A lot of time, us neurodivergent are trying to relate to the speaker and they don’t want to lose their train of thought. I was grateful that he made the distinction/clarification. Plus, he was able to shine a light up to how the neurotypicals might feel while engaging in a conversation with me or others with ADHD. There were a few situations such as that one which had given me a knee jerk scowl to then being able to clearly explain what he meant, and by the end of that, I felt much better.
I personally found this book to be very helpful; While I loved the other two communication novels I mentioned above (Talk & SuperCommunicators) and had learned from each of them, I think in the end I can say that “The Next Conversation” has been the most helpful for my particular situation. Essentially, when I’m taking to people in person sometimes, I will be left feeling misunderstood or that they are looking at me with confusion. I have uncovered in therapy over the last two years that my speech patterns and way that I talk is evident of being in an emotionally/verbally abusive home or relationship. (In my case, it stems from childhood, but had festered and grown terrible due to the relationship I had been in, which still negatively impacts my home life still.) While I know half of my problem is lacking self esteem and confidence, Jefferson was able to help me see how I can improve upon my short comings in the conversation department.
Instead of feeling triggered that he takes aim at how women tend to communicate (which I had felt a bit before taking a deep breath and just listening), I realize that I could take all of his pointers to help build my self esteem back up. So essentially, he has given me both a pep talk, has made me belief in my own ability to improve, all the while giving his readers the stepping stones to start working on stronger conversational skills and confidence. And for that, I’m grateful.
I haven’t had a chance to check out his secret chapter yet, but I have a feeling that I’m going to find that specific chapter the most informative since it was that type of character who had eroded my self esteem slowly over the last decade + a half. While some of these pointers might be common sense, they were all things that I needed to review and be reminded of. And at the end of the day, I think this book, and his practices that he gives us, have now become a helpful tool in my toolkit. This will be one that I recommend for my friends, and I look forward to reading more of his books in the future.
Thank you, Jefferson!