Do You Have Questions About the World Before the Flood? Does the Bible Really Explain the 'Unexplainable'?
Are we really living "in the days of Noah" as some prophets have said? How are the events of Noah's Ark and the Flood relevant to the last days? Are rebellious, fallen angels masquerading as aliens and UFOs today?
In this book, Rick Renner — historian and Bible teacher with extensive knowledge of New Testament Greek — clears up some rampant erroneous theories while uncovering brand-new revelations from the Bible. He uses archaeological findings, the writings of Church fathers, trusted historical documents,and Scripture to answer these and other questions, such as:
When was the first recorded rapture? What does it tell us about the rapture of the Church? Are the "sons of God" in Genesis and the fallen angels the same thing? Who were the watchers God assigned to guard mankind after the Fall? Was Methuselah’s life a prophetic demonstration of God’s longsuffering that preceded judgment? What did God’s promise of “120 years” really mean? Where is Noah’s Ark today? And why did God save only Noah and his family? Are there any consequences of unholy living today? Using photos from his own expeditions in the lower Ararat mountains — along with other empirical evidence of the Ark’s location — Rick captivates readers in this book and brings the Bible to life concerning this favorite childhood story. Containing hundreds of photos, illustrations, and endnotes, Fallen Angels, Giants, Monsters, and the World Before the Flood is “a museum in a book” and a must-have edition to refreshand refire your walk with God!
Rick Renner is the author of more than 30 books, including the bestsellers Dressed To Kill and Sparkling Gems From the Greek 1 and 2. His understanding of the Greek language and biblical history opens the Scriptures to enable readers to gain fresh insight from God's Word
Ok, I'm trying to be generous. Most of the Biblical scholarship and source work was well done. However, the author lost me within the introduction. Here's my issues 1. He cites that great Biblical Archeologist... Ron Wyatt. Here's the deal. Wyatt is the Biblical Indiana Jones. He's discovered Noah's Ark and the Ark of the Covenant. Only you only have his word that he saw the Ark because his dig permits were revoked. His pictures are suspect. The site in Turkey that Renner and Wyatt believe is the location of Noah's Ark is a mud flow. There is some circumstantial evidence for it being the site... BUT there are conflicting findings. One group says no metal artifacts have been found and no GPR evidence, while another group says they have positive data.
The book is more of an Evangelical Christian position essay as opposed to an investigative work into the existence of giants and the Nephilim. It gets stronger when dealing with Israel and King David, but it was a struggle to get through.
This Flood sent to cleanse the world of unthinkable evils brought on by fallen angels horrible giants, and monstrous creatures. P. 27. All the world was corrupt, except Noah and family. And, the author suggested that one of the in-laws may have had bad genes.
Fallen Angels had lusted after women. Incubus were demons that had sex with sleeping women and succubus were female demons that had sex with men in their dreams.
Many saints were raptured into heaven including Enoch who was raptured physically alive and has lived there 5,000 years with the spiritual residents there without the ability to begat.
Adam and his descendants lived many hundred years each and were busy begatting as well. They must have started out humping their sisters/cousins, mothers? What else was there to do when there were no cell phones to play with? The world was aplenty with humanoids and assorted giants and monsters. After the flood, man was limited to 120 years of life, although the world got filled up again anyhow. Moses and his family were the only genetically pure humans left on earth and the God assembled animals were, presumably, genetically pure also. No monster chromosomes in them. All creatures not genetically pure, through no fault of their own, were destroyed by the holy will. So, you better tell your great grandparents to remain pure. God released the flood to cleanse the earth of the hybrid giants/ Nephilim and monstrous creatures who were filling the planet with bloodshed and violence and polluting the gene pool. Nephilim were monsters who were the result of fallen angels impregnating mortal women. The Nephilim explains the questions asked by C.W. Charles in Preacher Phil: Do angels have d@@@s under their dresses? but does not but answer the question, do angels poop? The angels were probably forbidden to masturbate or “abuse” each other, even though they were full of heavenly gism. It must have been tough being a son of god. And, where did these angels come from? Were they cloned or puffed into existence? Anyhow, 200 of the sons of God, according to Renner, decided to hump as many earthling ladies as they could wrap their wings around. It was part of Satan’s plan to pollute the genetic pool so that it would not be capable of producing the Savior Who would cleanse the world of all this bad stuff. Not content to merely knock up every lady on earth, the fallen angels introduced weapons. astrology, casting of spells and probably imported the first Ouija boards from China. This is not to mention bizarre sexual pleasures. Still not satisfied with their mischief, the fallen angels impregnated beasts, creating monsters. A lot of this good stuff is brought to us by Peter who was not around at this time and based his opinions on thousands of years of second hand gossip. Later, other Church fathers who lived long after the fact confirmed and elaborated on the “facts.” What God was doing while all this improper behavior was going on is your guess and by golly. I mean... there wasn’t any football on television yet. Later, apparently, the bad angels were chained together, and left in torment for the final punishment.
According to Renner, pre-flood earth was alive with demons- and, I believe his followers think it still is. Oooo…what are those eyes I am seeing in the dark? The flood wiped them out, but, now Renner claims Jesus prophesied this all would occur again before the End of the Age… Then the author goes on to describe herds of giants, especially Og king of Bashan. Og was a giant among giants. But, God had Moses smite them. Mighty smite. Many of the giants had twelve fingers and toes. And, they had bad breath too… And, rings on their fingers and a bone in their nose. The author has visited the site of the ark, if that is what it is, in some mountains of Ararat or Cudi in some really hostile Muslim countries. Apparently, no one has actually excavated the “ark.” There will be a fund raiser to buy the author a shovel. According to Mathew, which apparently written by some unknown Jew, all the nifty bad stuff that occurred prior to the deluge will descend upon us prior to the Second Coming. So happy days will not be here again to the apparent joy of the author. Renner cites sex with robots! Well, at least it keeps perverts off the streets. Of course, we gotta bring in the abortion controversy. As of 2020, there were supposedly 7.82 billion humanoids on earth. According to the author, 2+ billion abortions have been committed in the past 40 years. If the abortees had not been and begat in Old Testament proportions, there would be more than 10 billion humanoids and we would be hip deep in poop and wars and rumors of wars. I do not know who made the other numbers up; so, I made up the theoretically possible census. (And, we are not even considering if the souls of the abortees will go to heaven… since none of them had a “personal relationship with Jesus,” as some preachers cite as the only access to the good place. Many of the abortees, such as in China had atheist parentage and apparently God punishes for the sins of your ancestors. This would be an excellent topic for a panel discussion.) In addition to these acts of savagery, there are now all gender restrooms, certainly signs of the imminent coming of Christ . We’re gonna get punished for that, for sure. Etc., etc. We are witnessing behaviors similar to or worse than the days before the deluge. Just as then, we are also indifferent to the Lord and most of us will be left behind at the Rapture. And, it will serve us- I mean you- right! Renner’s signs of the Coming are not very original, pretty much the same old same old “prophets” have been preaching for years. Look, proof of the ark is tenuous, without anyone digging into the alleged site. The prose is somewhat media preacher stuff and a bit redundant, but some of the art is really wicked and the artists should be recognized, although I do not want any of the stuff over my mantle. Read this for an enlightenment or entertainment , depending upon your predilection.
What a great book! This might just be Rick Renner’s best book. Visiting the site of Noah’s ark, measuring dimensions of the ark, studying history to find records of the ark, learning about well respected men of God who saw, heard, and, in some cases, visited the ark is critical to our understanding of what God’s doing in our time. Further, knowing the hidden history of Mankind and its union with fallen angels is very important to understand, for we are coming to a time when that may very well happen again.
This could’ve been a more interesting book if it had been less repetitive. Also, many of the references are either out of date or self preferential. I’m not sure how the book was recommended, but also it was not what I thought it would be. Rather than a book About a time of biblical history, I know a little about, it evolved into the usual hateful rhetoric about people the author does not understand.
This book is a dumbed down presentation explaining much of what Dr. Michael Heiser wrote in his book, "Unseen Realm". Rick Renner repeats his thoughts and concepts over and over. I question his scholarship. The reading level is probably 5th grade. I am disappointed in my purchase of this book.
Renner’s book is very captivating and filled with lots of documentation in his ventures to find out about the Genesis Flood. I was very intrigued with the data and found a good portion of it very thought provoking. His adventures out into the world to find the information, the sites and history of all the Middle East is a treasure of gems that will sparkle the mind.
However, as with the book, Before Genesis, there are some flaws (in my opinion) as to the extrapolation of the information they uncovered. Renner mentions in his book that the population of the planet at that time could only be about 200 million people. This is very shortsighted. When I did my own research nearly four decades ago, I came up with a population of that time frame to be close to 4.5 billion. When I did further studies with Chuck Missler, he pointed out at the time, the population was probably closer to 6 billion. Eve and her daughters were basically “Fertile Myrtles” who probably had anywhere from 4 to 5 children at a time. Even more. There is a documented account in 1998 of a woman giving birth to 7 children. Those kids are now adults, living healthy lives.
The Pre Flood era was the most advanced civilization on the planet. They did things much different than we do now and their knowledge was beyond us.
I must also point out that Noah’s Ark was not the only ship of that day. These people sailed the seas, traveled the land and probably flew through the air with machines that would astound us today. The Noah’s Ark that most claim to be his might not be Noah’s at all, but another large vessel during that time frame. God preserved Noah and his family on the ARK that God had Noah build. Any other sea going vessel was destined to perish in the terrible Flood that would ravish the world. Yes, the entire planet was decimated by this Flood and life on the planet was radically changed. Noah, his family and the animals stepped out of this special ship into a new alien world than the one they knew. Life would be different for ever. Mankind was faced with a challenge like none before him.
Painfully redundant and a surface level investigation.
I know that summary may sound a tad bit harsh and I hate to write such a waxing cold statement but despite Rick’s best intentions this book is certainly just that. This book does not need to be 400 pages, in fact I would even say it could be less than 100 pages as it approaches and re-approaches the same set materials over and over again often verbatim summary’s. For example he introduces Josephus 3-4 times using the exact language.
Another issue I have is that that Rick (along with most of Western Christians) is guilty of anachronism. He preaches 19th century Rapture theology as fact with a very limited and anachronistic exegesis and hermeneutic. I would encourage readers to seek a more rigorous 1st century exploration of eschatology material found in the synoptic gospels. One that I can confidently recommend (and one that I am currently reading) is “Jesus and The Victory of God,” by N.T Wright. This is a more in depth look at “Jewish thought” and second temple expectation. I firmly believe that it is important that we approach The Bible and Jesus with a historical lens. Jesus must be read as a second temple Jew living in first century Palestine.
Sorry, Rick but I will have to say readers can and should skip this one. Too many liberties are taken which is dangerous in my option. I would encourage people who are interested in antediluvian and fringe material to check out Dr. Michael Heiser’s commentary on Book of Enoch or the his “Unseen Realm.” One positive: Rick’s primary research and his trip to Mt. Cudi provided a vicariously intriguing look at historical artifacts that are out of reach for most. Those chapters are fun and insightful and are the saving grace of the book.
A compilation of research on Noah's ark site at Durupinar, and the scriptures and support for giants before and after the Flood. The only original contributions I saw were the author's photos and information from his trip to the Durupinar site. The rest of his material comes from internet searches and the research of others according to the endnotes.
Renner makes several assertions or statements that this or that is proven, when it's just a supposition, not a critical review. He presents his facts as the only way, the only possibility. He only presents one location for the ark and his three reasons (evidence) of location, length and form. He did mention other sites, but didn't compare evidence or theories for the reader's education. He didn't refute other sites either, only discounted them for his belief. I would rather have seen the evidence presented along with other sites and photos like Tim Mahoney or Tom Horn have done in their works.
What I liked best about this book was the preaching. Chapter 8 on repentance and being given time to repent was very good. Several chapters mentioned warnings in scriptures (PG 175-176, 180) and what to watch for. He also presented how Noah's ark foreshadowed eternal salvation (PG 254).
I liked the history Renner explained such as Edom developing from Urati or Ararat. And clarifying that Kosher is pitch.
Good photos and good information on the beliefs of several church fathers or religious scholars. But it's a repetitive presentation without opposing views or critical analysis of several views.
A few thoughts… 1. Wow…long and so repetitive ( could’ve easily been half as long with same information). 2. Great research. My first 2 years of college were at Columbia Bible College, and the absolute hardest class I ever took was a class called Hermeneutics. It required us to examine the historical, cultural, and social context in which the writing was done because the meaning of words and ideas changes over time and it is essential that we understand what was meant then AND how it relates to us now. The author did a great job of sharing that research with us. 3. Despite the repetition, there were many ideas I had not thought about till reading this. For instance, I had not made the connection in my head of how our chaotic, violent society is so similar to the world before the flood. 🤔 4. I listened to the audiobook, and the reader did a great job! It does refer often to things that are pictured in the hard copy like diagrams, maps, and charts though, so I was glad I had a hard copy as well to refer to. 5. While many of the conclusions the author draws from the research are based on his interpretation, I felt like he was spot on with most. It definitely made me think. 6. Buckle up folks, the end times are here. Don’t put off making a decision for Christ.
I bought this book based on 2 things: the outstanding author and the title.
Pros: Rick Renner a well respected author
Well researched book with many endnotes
Lots of information that explains the gaps in the Bible
Great figures
Could be used in small groups studies that are open minded and critical in thought
Cons: The title that reads: "Fallen Angels, Giants, Monsters ..." is misleading if you think it's a thesis rather than a platform
The book is very, very, redundant, as many have already stated, but made worse when it is within the same chapter
There was no reason to copy and paste the bios of ancient authors
Each figure has a caption which is then written verbatim into the body of the chapters. Why not label them as fig. 1,2, or 3 and then refer to them in the writing?
In the last couple of chapters Renner emphasizes the Pre-Tribulation Rapture. I believe in the Post-Tribulation Rapture as presented by George Eldon Ladd in The Blessed Hope
I am glad I read the book, even though the last 2 chapters were slow and dragged on, and I did learn quite a bit. As a result I have ordered the Gospel of Enoch to continue researching this subject.
I found Fallen Angels, Giants, Monsters and the World Before the Flood: How the Events of Noah’s Ark and the Flood Are Relevant to the End of the Age to be an interesting but challenging read. The subject matter is fascinating, especially the connections it tries to draw between the days of Noah and end-times themes, but I often felt a bit lost while reading. A large portion of the book seems to be built around or heavily influenced by The Book of Enoch, and because of that, I don’t know how much a reader can truly get out of this book without already being familiar with Enoch’s writings.
While I appreciated the author’s attempt to explore lesser-discussed biblical topics like the Nephilim, fallen angels, and the corruption of the world before the Flood, the explanations sometimes felt more assumed than clearly laid out. Instead of guiding the reader step by step, the book often seemed to expect prior knowledge. For readers who have already read The Book of Enoch or who enjoy deep dives into extra-biblical texts, this book may be thought-provoking. For others, especially those approaching the topic for the first time, it may feel overwhelming and difficult to fully grasp.
I really enjoyed the information revealed in this book and was fascinated by the details concerning the times of Noah and by the information about the ark’s construction and size. I was disappointed at how repetitive the book was. Between photo captions and material being repeated chapter to chapter to chapter, I grew Increasingly annoyed at the repetition. I think this book could’ve been 1/3 smaller than it was. Nonetheless, I recommend this book for the revelation about how closely our times are coming to mirror the times of Noah. This book offers a good warning to us that we are becoming a degenerate society, overly tolerant of evil.
This book was excellent. As with all of Rick Renner’s books it is well written, very clear and backed up with Scripture, science and facts. This book was well researched and made a clear case for the location of the Ark. It also makes you aware of and makes you think about what was going on during the time before the flood and compares it to what’s going on now. I really recommend this book- it’s good!
800 page book could have been 400 pages, lots of repetition. But that can be a good thing; start in any chapter to get a quick review of all previous chapters (but not well delineated before new content for that chapter begins). Opened my eyes to the non-canonical book of Enoch (well worth reading/listening to) and the fact that at least the first book of Enoch was inspired. Crazy to know some Nephilim survived the flood and that they must be around today!
I have long desired to know more about the antediluvian world. Rick Renner fulfilled this desire in excellent manner, mostly because his research as insights were centered on the Word of God. I did not want this book to end. Thank you, Rick, for this important work of research and messianic discipleship.
The author's penchant for repetition notwithstanding, this is an informative and riveting work. The inclusion of historical information helps verify the truth of the Bible. As the author says, the word of God is absolutely true, but verification offers the skeptic another chance to acknowledge that, and the uncertain believer confirmation of that truth.
This is an excellent book with important insights. It bridges the gap of understanding regarding events surrounding the global flood and the possible existence of giants and monsters. My one criticism of this book is it is extremely and unnecessarily repetitive. It’s so bad I almost stopped reading. I’m glad I didn’t, but it was agitating to say the least.
I did the kindle version. Now I may buy the hard bound just because of the pictures. That really makes the book. I liked how everything was broke down and arranged. A lot of the text is exceptionally redundant. But that easy to skim over I especially liked that when Renner didn’t know something he says so. Very little speculating.
This was a very interesting read with lots of information that was new to me. I gave it a three star because a great deal of this book is repeated 3, 4, or even 5 times but if you are interested in expanding your knowledge of Bible times, you will probably learn some fascinating things from this book.
This is a great book to learn about the Fallen Angels, the Nephilim, the Great Flood, and how it all relates to End Times Prophecy and the Return of Jesus Christ. It's very thorough on the subjects, which I was already very familiar with. There are images throughout the paperback edition, which are in B/W. I highly recommend this book for those who want to learn about these events. Well done!
This book well covers the antediluvian age and from it how to understand its impact currently
I found the combination of the audio book and the written text to be an excellent resource for understanding the past and to help understand the challenges of modernity. It serves as a textbook. It a great resource to have in your library.
Not recommended for the average reader. The author uses discredited texts as factual and historical. While they do have elements of that, they should not be used as the basis of a belief. The reader is cautioned to do their own research and be aware of what is or relies on speculation and what is real.
This was a very well researched book. Tons of very interesting subjects. More then usually historical research to back up enforcement on possible biblical understanding of few or vague scriptural references
This book is very thought provoking. Some things I had never heard from anyone. Renner backs up his thoughts with concrete documentation from the Bible and biblical scholars. I say it would behoove the child of God to read and study.
This book digs into the pre-flood world. In addition to the text, it is loaded with illustrations. It also lists extensive research notes and illustration acknowledgment. Each chapter will list some questions to consider which will challenge the reader. It is a fun read!
This book was a chore to finish. With that amount of repetitiveness, it began to feel like the author believes his readers are stupid. I admit, reading this whole book made me feel less intelligent! Maybe he was being paid by the word, but it was a disservice to the reader. Not only that, but the title misrepresents the content of the book. HUGE title letters "World Before the Flood" yet the information about the world before the flood was quite minimal. I felt a bit tricked by this. Anyway, I'm definitely off of any Rick Renner books in future. Very disappointing.