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Soulwoven
Two brothers must save the world from a dragon, even as everything they love about it is taken from them...
Merchants’ son Litnig Jin yearns to be a hero, weaving the souls of the dead into high magic. His brother Cole wants nothing more than to be free of their violent father. After the dragon-god of destruction sinks its claws into their nightmares, both brothers get their wish.
A dream of moving statues, shattered chains, and dark, seething clouds leads the brothers to flee the three hills and comfortable neighborhoods of their city on a quest to save the world from a god's timeless wrath. They head west into the unknown, where soulweavers reign supreme and danger lurks in every shadow.
As the brothers seek to stop the end of the world, they discover they have more power than they ever thought possible. But learning to use it may cost them each other, their best friends, and everything they are.
Merchants’ son Litnig Jin yearns to be a hero, weaving the souls of the dead into high magic. His brother Cole wants nothing more than to be free of their violent father. After the dragon-god of destruction sinks its claws into their nightmares, both brothers get their wish.
A dream of moving statues, shattered chains, and dark, seething clouds leads the brothers to flee the three hills and comfortable neighborhoods of their city on a quest to save the world from a god's timeless wrath. They head west into the unknown, where soulweavers reign supreme and danger lurks in every shadow.
As the brothers seek to stop the end of the world, they discover they have more power than they ever thought possible. But learning to use it may cost them each other, their best friends, and everything they are.
- GenresFantasyHigh Fantasy
446 pages, Kindle Edition
First published February 20, 2014
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Jeff Seymour
8 books23 followersJeff Seymour writes hopeful, heartfelt fantasy that blends modern characters with timeless plots and offers something new and fantastic on every page. His debut middle-grade novel, Nadya Skylung and the Cloudship Rescue, was a finalist for the 2019 Colorado Book Award in Juvenile Literature, and his epic fantasy Soulwoven got over a million reads while being featured on Wattpad. Over eight years as an editor, Jeff has worked on over 100 novels, including books for New York Times and USA Today bestselling authors. In his free time, he plays more video games than he should, pretends he knows anything about raising children, and gathers ideas for stories everywhere he goes.
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March 11, 2014
There’s been a big resurgence these days of the sword and sorcery subgenre in Fantasy. A lot of hack and slash amidst very personal settings and plots, where the characters are just handling their own issues, and the fate of the world isn’t really hanging in any balance. Jeff Seymour brings us back to the halcyon days of Fantasy where a group of companions sets out on a journey that may prevent or bring about catastrophe. It lends a great sense of scale to a story, knowing that serious events of world import are happening. As I mentioned in my intro above the fold, it really hearkens back to The Lord of the Rings or Dragonlance’s The Chronicles.
Of course, that which sets this work apart from stories like The Lord of the Rings is our heroes are much closer to being the Hobbits than they are Aragorn or Legolas. We have a pretty young cast: most of the characters are in their late teens, and they really aren’t an experienced or powerful adventuring group. This is a thing I very much appreciate from Seymour, as there’s not much more boring than watching unstoppable heroes mow their way through all the enemies. It makes a story seem flat, and causes the outcome of their final battle seem so guaranteed as to make it a bit of a doddle. Litnig, Cole, and their group get hurt; to be blunt, they get the shit kicked out of them more than a few times. This is still the first book in the series, they don’t need to be superheros yet, and it makes them much more human and engaging.
The ability to identify with characters in epic fantasy is incredibly important. This is the same reason why so many find the original Superman to be so dull. Perfect, unstoppable warriors don’t need to develop as characters. They’re already where they want to be, so where’s the conflict? When you have a Prince ordering people around while they’re hundreds of miles from home, soaking wet, freezing and starving, and that Prince doesn’t even really show any signs that he has any better of an idea what to do than anybody else, you’ve got some great conflict indeed! Seymour also managed to avoid the common pitfall of having his characters discover powerful weapons or previously unknown powers to beef them up. These characters get through their challenges through actual growth and development as people!
Another really interesting thing about this book, to me, is that its publication was funded via Kickstarter. For those who don’t know what that is, Kickstarter is a website where creative types can put up a video describing a project they would like to complete, and solicit donations from interested parties to fund it. There are pledge rewards like you’d get from any pledge drive (full disclosure, I got my copy of the book by pledging to the kickstarter at a level which included getting a digital copy of the book when it was finished), and the primary use of the funding for Seymour was acquiring professional editing services to go over the book which had already been written.
This really raises some interesting issues around traditional publishing versus self publishing. It provides a way for an author who is creating quality work to make a higher fidelity product than they could on their own. It gives independent authors the ability to hire other necessary work to improve their book. In Seymour’s case, this included an artist to make the map, a developmental editor and a copy editor. It raises the bar of just what is able to be done independently for an author, and Seymour has taken full advantage. I’ve read many self-published books before, and while it is obvious that Seymour’s skill is more than sufficient to create a book that reads well, it is also very clear that he made full use of editors to which he might not have had access without this funding. I look forward to the next book in the series, Soulwoven: Exile, slated for publication in late 2014.
You can read this review and more at our website, The Speculative Post.
Of course, that which sets this work apart from stories like The Lord of the Rings is our heroes are much closer to being the Hobbits than they are Aragorn or Legolas. We have a pretty young cast: most of the characters are in their late teens, and they really aren’t an experienced or powerful adventuring group. This is a thing I very much appreciate from Seymour, as there’s not much more boring than watching unstoppable heroes mow their way through all the enemies. It makes a story seem flat, and causes the outcome of their final battle seem so guaranteed as to make it a bit of a doddle. Litnig, Cole, and their group get hurt; to be blunt, they get the shit kicked out of them more than a few times. This is still the first book in the series, they don’t need to be superheros yet, and it makes them much more human and engaging.
The ability to identify with characters in epic fantasy is incredibly important. This is the same reason why so many find the original Superman to be so dull. Perfect, unstoppable warriors don’t need to develop as characters. They’re already where they want to be, so where’s the conflict? When you have a Prince ordering people around while they’re hundreds of miles from home, soaking wet, freezing and starving, and that Prince doesn’t even really show any signs that he has any better of an idea what to do than anybody else, you’ve got some great conflict indeed! Seymour also managed to avoid the common pitfall of having his characters discover powerful weapons or previously unknown powers to beef them up. These characters get through their challenges through actual growth and development as people!
Another really interesting thing about this book, to me, is that its publication was funded via Kickstarter. For those who don’t know what that is, Kickstarter is a website where creative types can put up a video describing a project they would like to complete, and solicit donations from interested parties to fund it. There are pledge rewards like you’d get from any pledge drive (full disclosure, I got my copy of the book by pledging to the kickstarter at a level which included getting a digital copy of the book when it was finished), and the primary use of the funding for Seymour was acquiring professional editing services to go over the book which had already been written.
This really raises some interesting issues around traditional publishing versus self publishing. It provides a way for an author who is creating quality work to make a higher fidelity product than they could on their own. It gives independent authors the ability to hire other necessary work to improve their book. In Seymour’s case, this included an artist to make the map, a developmental editor and a copy editor. It raises the bar of just what is able to be done independently for an author, and Seymour has taken full advantage. I’ve read many self-published books before, and while it is obvious that Seymour’s skill is more than sufficient to create a book that reads well, it is also very clear that he made full use of editors to which he might not have had access without this funding. I look forward to the next book in the series, Soulwoven: Exile, slated for publication in late 2014.
You can read this review and more at our website, The Speculative Post.
September 3, 2016
(I got a copy through NetGalley, in exchange for an honest review.)
I'm adding this novel to my list of books I'm not exactly sure what to make of. I guess it might sit better with readers who really like fantasy stories with typical tropes, which I'm not at the moment, so take my review with a grain of salt.
I found Soulwoven to be full of interesting ideas, especially when it comes to the characters and their relationships. The plot itself is of the fairly straightforward, "typical fantasy" kind: an ancient (evil) god on the verge of waking up, with a group of characters traveling to prevent this from happening. However, this bunch of people gathered through circumstances must go through its own issues of trust, friendship and love, and a sense of duty isn't always enough to keep things going smoothly—far from it. I really dug this aspect of the novel. Everyone in the group has at least one person of interest s/he wants to follow, for various reasons, and this creates a good dynamics.
However, at times, I found the narrative lacking in showing this very dynamics. Some events were shown from different points of view, but I'm not always sure the choice of scenes was the best (fight scenes, for instance). After a while, it felt as if part of the cast of characters was given more prominence over the others. While Dil's and Litnig's stories were pretty interesting to read (both had to deal with the secret behind their true natures, and face the prospect of being rejected by the ones they loved), other characters got the short end of the straw. Quay mostly became the leader and nothing more, and Ryse and Leramis didn't get as much screen time as their past should've warranted them, in my opinion. Maybe their relationship will be developed in the next book, but I thought it would've been interesting to see more of it here, because of how Litnig saw it, and how it might have affected his own evolution. (I liked his progress, by the way. He wasn't so much the oaf he seemed to be, and the story didn't want for opportunities of making him turn towards the dark side, so to speak.)
Another issue for me was the pacing. Granted, I must admit I'm not always keen on the traveling parts in fantasy novels in general (yes, even in widely acclaimed novels), but I don't know if this was what caused the problem in the first place. Sometimes I wanted to keep reading, and at other times, suddenly, I didn't feel like picking up the book again. A few scenes were rather confusing, and I had to go back and read a second time to make sure I hadn't missed something, and understand properly what was going on. I'm tempted to chalk this to a few strange reactions on the characters' behalf. Among other things, I'm still not sure why the Sh'ma brought the group to his leader, knowing all too well how it may end. I'm also not convinced with the potential political intrigue back in Eldan City: this is the kind of thing that would deserve a plot in and of itself, so either there was too much or too little of it here. Although it provides an interesting backdrop for later novels, it still felt a little artificial (perhaps because the group had to hide because of it, which paved the way for the death of one specific character, which fell into the cliché category for me).
Good ideas, definitely (if on the typical fantasy tropes side), though not always executed in a way that would really emphasise their worth. Nevertheless, it's good to see a novel whose characters all have their own, often touching background stories, and whose journeys to save the world are also addled with very human relationships.
I'm adding this novel to my list of books I'm not exactly sure what to make of. I guess it might sit better with readers who really like fantasy stories with typical tropes, which I'm not at the moment, so take my review with a grain of salt.
I found Soulwoven to be full of interesting ideas, especially when it comes to the characters and their relationships. The plot itself is of the fairly straightforward, "typical fantasy" kind: an ancient (evil) god on the verge of waking up, with a group of characters traveling to prevent this from happening. However, this bunch of people gathered through circumstances must go through its own issues of trust, friendship and love, and a sense of duty isn't always enough to keep things going smoothly—far from it. I really dug this aspect of the novel. Everyone in the group has at least one person of interest s/he wants to follow, for various reasons, and this creates a good dynamics.
However, at times, I found the narrative lacking in showing this very dynamics. Some events were shown from different points of view, but I'm not always sure the choice of scenes was the best (fight scenes, for instance). After a while, it felt as if part of the cast of characters was given more prominence over the others. While Dil's and Litnig's stories were pretty interesting to read (both had to deal with the secret behind their true natures, and face the prospect of being rejected by the ones they loved), other characters got the short end of the straw. Quay mostly became the leader and nothing more, and Ryse and Leramis didn't get as much screen time as their past should've warranted them, in my opinion. Maybe their relationship will be developed in the next book, but I thought it would've been interesting to see more of it here, because of how Litnig saw it, and how it might have affected his own evolution. (I liked his progress, by the way. He wasn't so much the oaf he seemed to be, and the story didn't want for opportunities of making him turn towards the dark side, so to speak.)
Another issue for me was the pacing. Granted, I must admit I'm not always keen on the traveling parts in fantasy novels in general (yes, even in widely acclaimed novels), but I don't know if this was what caused the problem in the first place. Sometimes I wanted to keep reading, and at other times, suddenly, I didn't feel like picking up the book again. A few scenes were rather confusing, and I had to go back and read a second time to make sure I hadn't missed something, and understand properly what was going on. I'm tempted to chalk this to a few strange reactions on the characters' behalf. Among other things, I'm still not sure why the Sh'ma brought the group to his leader, knowing all too well how it may end. I'm also not convinced with the potential political intrigue back in Eldan City: this is the kind of thing that would deserve a plot in and of itself, so either there was too much or too little of it here. Although it provides an interesting backdrop for later novels, it still felt a little artificial (perhaps because the group had to hide because of it, which paved the way for the death of one specific character, which fell into the cliché category for me).
Good ideas, definitely (if on the typical fantasy tropes side), though not always executed in a way that would really emphasise their worth. Nevertheless, it's good to see a novel whose characters all have their own, often touching background stories, and whose journeys to save the world are also addled with very human relationships.
December 22, 2014
Soulwoven is a proper old-school high-fantasy, complete with dragons, swords and sorcery.
Brothers Cole and Litnig each have strange dreams that lead them to an awful discovery. The heart dragon statue at the temple has been broken, the soulweavers guarding it butchered. If the other heart dragons are broken, the great dragon Sherduan will be released from banishment and wreak destruction upon the world once more. The brothers set out on a journey with various other companions to protect the other heart dragons from the cult that seeks to bring the dragon back into the world.
Soulwoven was written and originally produced on Wattpad (an online storytelling platform), but a Kickstarter campaign helped Jeff Seymour to get the book edited and produced as a self-published work. Self-pubs can sometimes be a bit hit-and-miss, but I am pleased to say that this is one of the best self-published books I think I’ve ever read.
Sure, there is a fairly simple storyline with a group of various young people heading off on a quest to save the world. Sure, there are humans, elf-like Sh’ma and dwarf-like Aleani, but they each feel different enough from their Tolkien counterparts to not be too obvious.
The world that has been created for this story is beautifully described all the way along, and they do cover quite a lot of ground as the story goes on. The traveling parts can get a bit slow, as traveling parts do, but the action scenes – wow, they are amazing! I really loved the sections where the soulweavers are battling each other – I was on the edge of my seat! The magic in this world is also really interesting – it consists of the ability to manipulate the River of Souls, a concept that is described beautifully. I’d like to hear more about the Wilderlengs and their “second river”, as that was never really explained.
This story is told from multiple points of view, and sometimes the same events are shown from different people’s points of view. This actually isn’t as confusing as it sounds. The main thing that I found that happened was that after the major action scene, they all sat around while everyone had a think about what had just happened. It’s probably quite accurate as to what would actually happen after a big battle or the end of a chase, but it really drops the pace and tension. It does mean that the reader ends up with a great idea of what each character is thinking and how their relationships are developing through each event, but doesn’t always keep the pace rolling as the story continues.
I really enjoyed this debut from Jeff Seymour. The second book in the series has just been released – Soulwoven: Exile. I’ll be looking forward to seeing what each of the characters will do next!
4.5 Stars – A very well-written high fantasy, it just gets bogged down slightly with telling events from multiple points of view. Brilliant action scenes and world-building though!
This review was originally posted on Tea in the Treetops in December 2014.
Brothers Cole and Litnig each have strange dreams that lead them to an awful discovery. The heart dragon statue at the temple has been broken, the soulweavers guarding it butchered. If the other heart dragons are broken, the great dragon Sherduan will be released from banishment and wreak destruction upon the world once more. The brothers set out on a journey with various other companions to protect the other heart dragons from the cult that seeks to bring the dragon back into the world.
Soulwoven was written and originally produced on Wattpad (an online storytelling platform), but a Kickstarter campaign helped Jeff Seymour to get the book edited and produced as a self-published work. Self-pubs can sometimes be a bit hit-and-miss, but I am pleased to say that this is one of the best self-published books I think I’ve ever read.
Sure, there is a fairly simple storyline with a group of various young people heading off on a quest to save the world. Sure, there are humans, elf-like Sh’ma and dwarf-like Aleani, but they each feel different enough from their Tolkien counterparts to not be too obvious.
The world that has been created for this story is beautifully described all the way along, and they do cover quite a lot of ground as the story goes on. The traveling parts can get a bit slow, as traveling parts do, but the action scenes – wow, they are amazing! I really loved the sections where the soulweavers are battling each other – I was on the edge of my seat! The magic in this world is also really interesting – it consists of the ability to manipulate the River of Souls, a concept that is described beautifully. I’d like to hear more about the Wilderlengs and their “second river”, as that was never really explained.
This story is told from multiple points of view, and sometimes the same events are shown from different people’s points of view. This actually isn’t as confusing as it sounds. The main thing that I found that happened was that after the major action scene, they all sat around while everyone had a think about what had just happened. It’s probably quite accurate as to what would actually happen after a big battle or the end of a chase, but it really drops the pace and tension. It does mean that the reader ends up with a great idea of what each character is thinking and how their relationships are developing through each event, but doesn’t always keep the pace rolling as the story continues.
I really enjoyed this debut from Jeff Seymour. The second book in the series has just been released – Soulwoven: Exile. I’ll be looking forward to seeing what each of the characters will do next!
4.5 Stars – A very well-written high fantasy, it just gets bogged down slightly with telling events from multiple points of view. Brilliant action scenes and world-building though!
This review was originally posted on Tea in the Treetops in December 2014.
January 19, 2016
Jeff Seymour’s Soulwoven is the first book of an epic fantasy series you need to check out. The book itself is nicely done. The cover art is attractive, and the book is written with professional quality design and layout. Self-published books sometimes lag in this area, but Seymour cares enough about his art to do things right.
The story is also intriguing. It is a quest tale wherein the protagonists, primarily brothers Litnig and Cole Jin, set out to prevent the awakening of an evil power after Litnig has been warned via intense dreams. Allies of the dragon have been murdering those who stand in their way. The prince joins with the brothers as do various other characters, including Litnig’s long lost love. The brothers deal with physical horrors, mental horrors, and, as the characters are predominantly young, love issues. The story is well-written, technically, and the characters are given enough space and attention for each to have a distinct personality, which I really like in a tale. Each is, therefore, relatable, even if unlikeable, which adds to the realism and enjoyment of the story. In this vein, I appreciate that the characters sometimes fail, and, as in the real world, it is our failures that mould and often characterize us. This book will keep you reading as you press on, eager to find out what happens. There are a number of cliffhangers, including at the end, but this should not be surprising as it is the first of a series.
Seymour has written a fun fantasy story that works on many levels. I highly recommend it to all those who like a rousing good tale with characters in which you can emotionally invest. I look forward to the next in the saga, and I think you will, too.
The story is also intriguing. It is a quest tale wherein the protagonists, primarily brothers Litnig and Cole Jin, set out to prevent the awakening of an evil power after Litnig has been warned via intense dreams. Allies of the dragon have been murdering those who stand in their way. The prince joins with the brothers as do various other characters, including Litnig’s long lost love. The brothers deal with physical horrors, mental horrors, and, as the characters are predominantly young, love issues. The story is well-written, technically, and the characters are given enough space and attention for each to have a distinct personality, which I really like in a tale. Each is, therefore, relatable, even if unlikeable, which adds to the realism and enjoyment of the story. In this vein, I appreciate that the characters sometimes fail, and, as in the real world, it is our failures that mould and often characterize us. This book will keep you reading as you press on, eager to find out what happens. There are a number of cliffhangers, including at the end, but this should not be surprising as it is the first of a series.
Seymour has written a fun fantasy story that works on many levels. I highly recommend it to all those who like a rousing good tale with characters in which you can emotionally invest. I look forward to the next in the saga, and I think you will, too.
November 6, 2014
First off, I'm going to just state here, I won this book in the Goodreads First Reads giveaway, and when I got it in the mail I was quite excited to read it...
It is a very beautiful book. I love the cover art, and the thickness of the pages... And now for the actual review.
I thought that it would be pretty great based off of what little I knew of it, so I dug in, and found that it really wasn't all that I had built it up to be in my head.
I really wanted to like this book, but honestly? It seemed like reading through a normal "fantasy story" based online roleplay.
Lots of "fantasy book norm" characters were thrown in at very cliche intervals, and in very over-done situations--- and to make it even worse(for me personally), there was very little character development, which is something I really need in a story to completely enjoy it.
Overall, it was an okay read, but the way it flowed was somewhat confusing at times, and I had to go back and reread some parts several times to figure out just what was happening.
I think, that this book might better fit an age category of 10-14 or so. Young readers who generally aren't used to and expecting the level of development, detail, and story flow that you might get from reading Tolkien, Jordan, Sanderson, Rothfuss, Martin, etc...
I probably will read any subsequent books, because I do enjoy the underlying premise of the story.. And would like to follow the story a little more... I just thought that over-all Soulwoven was very poorly developed, even for being from a new author..
It is a very beautiful book. I love the cover art, and the thickness of the pages... And now for the actual review.
I thought that it would be pretty great based off of what little I knew of it, so I dug in, and found that it really wasn't all that I had built it up to be in my head.
I really wanted to like this book, but honestly? It seemed like reading through a normal "fantasy story" based online roleplay.
Lots of "fantasy book norm" characters were thrown in at very cliche intervals, and in very over-done situations--- and to make it even worse(for me personally), there was very little character development, which is something I really need in a story to completely enjoy it.
Overall, it was an okay read, but the way it flowed was somewhat confusing at times, and I had to go back and reread some parts several times to figure out just what was happening.
I think, that this book might better fit an age category of 10-14 or so. Young readers who generally aren't used to and expecting the level of development, detail, and story flow that you might get from reading Tolkien, Jordan, Sanderson, Rothfuss, Martin, etc...
I probably will read any subsequent books, because I do enjoy the underlying premise of the story.. And would like to follow the story a little more... I just thought that over-all Soulwoven was very poorly developed, even for being from a new author..
November 8, 2017
I received a copy of this book from Netgalley in exchange for an honest review.
I spent a lot of reading this book wondering whether I actually was enjoying it or not. It wasn't by any stretch of the imagination a bad book. Seymour built a very interesting world and the rules that it abides by in terms of magic were pretty cool to learn about. I loved that the main characters were memorable too, each with their own distinct personalities and some fantastic character development as the story progressed. The plot was filled with many action-filled events and there was certainly never a boring moment. I did have some problems with the book however. Firstly, the characters that our young band of heroes met along the way were pretty forgettable. I felt like things moved far too quickly as well and became very confused as time went on. They seemed to travel across a whole Kingdom and back in a very short amount of time, encountered danger at literally every corner and at many points, I felt like I had missed some sort of big revelation or event that was not explained. Despite there being some consistent, stable elements to the book, I thought that the pace could have been slowed a little and things explained more clearly. It would have been nice to have a more complex history lesson on the various species, places and legends of the Kingdom. Seymour writes well though and I did enjoy reading this one!
For a full review, see here: http://chasedbymyimagination.blogspot...
I spent a lot of reading this book wondering whether I actually was enjoying it or not. It wasn't by any stretch of the imagination a bad book. Seymour built a very interesting world and the rules that it abides by in terms of magic were pretty cool to learn about. I loved that the main characters were memorable too, each with their own distinct personalities and some fantastic character development as the story progressed. The plot was filled with many action-filled events and there was certainly never a boring moment. I did have some problems with the book however. Firstly, the characters that our young band of heroes met along the way were pretty forgettable. I felt like things moved far too quickly as well and became very confused as time went on. They seemed to travel across a whole Kingdom and back in a very short amount of time, encountered danger at literally every corner and at many points, I felt like I had missed some sort of big revelation or event that was not explained. Despite there being some consistent, stable elements to the book, I thought that the pace could have been slowed a little and things explained more clearly. It would have been nice to have a more complex history lesson on the various species, places and legends of the Kingdom. Seymour writes well though and I did enjoy reading this one!
For a full review, see here: http://chasedbymyimagination.blogspot...
August 13, 2015
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Soulwoven by Jeff Seymour, is an ambitious novel by a self published author,with a captivating world, that is comfortingly familiar, but lacks the depth that the reader wants out of it.
1/5 - rescored from a 2. Just didn't like it.
The sequel to Soulwoven, Soulwoven:Exile was just released December 12.
Pros
+ Fascinating world and magic system that begs to be explored
+ Fast paced story
+ Some interesting characters
+ Holds back information amazingly
Cons
– Plot seems like an RPG
– Clunky writing
– Overly-ambitious that places too many demands on the story
Similar Reads: Dragonlance Books by Margaret Weis and Tracy Hickman, Forgotten Realms side stories
Plot – 2: Soulwoven is a story about a group of adventurers attempting to stop the return of a legendary dragon that will destroy the land. If the dragon statues throughout the realm of Guedin break, the dragon will be free. Two brothers, a soulweaver(magic user), and a prince start an adventure that meets up with a hard-faced Aleani and a young female scout to stop the statues from being broken by necromancers wanting to free the dragon. Everyone has their own secrets to hold which might change everything.
Soulwoven’s plot reminded me a lot of an rpg. The focus on the beginning was to setup the conflict, then you gathered your party members, traveled to other cities, and gained more party members. At each main city that the party stopped some conflict occurred. The pacing was brisk and fast, as the party made their way to each city that held a dragon statue, each one a different race and society. There is a lot of ground covered in this one book, more ground covered than a lot of other books within one book. Seymour did not focus much on the traveling aspect though and they go to cities remarkably fast. One chapter they were 3 weeks away from a city and then the next they were right there.
I felt that Soulwoven was so overly-ambitious in its scope that other parts of the story suffered. Even though the story was fast paced, it felt rushed, and I wanted more character interactions. I wanted more conflicts that weren’t settled with magic or a sword to open up more depth in the characters. Even getting a few more camp fire dialogue sequences where characters talked about their fears, hopes, and desires more would have been welcomed. I really disliked the dream aspect of Soulwoven and felt like it detracted from the plot.
Characters – 2: The characters in Soulwoven were extremely hit or miss. Because there was a large party you couldn’t focus on particular characters as much as a reader might like. The story was told through the eyes of the party, each person having their turn to talk about what was going on. That was fine with me but there were about 8 different viewpoint characters and add that with the fact that Soulwoven’s story was overly epic in scope for this book and you got less time for actual character development.
My favorite character was easily Dil, she was the highlight of the book for me. I think I liked Dil because she was written as a sympathetic and flawed character but with her own unique strength. I did not feel any attachment to the other characters but I really wanted to. I really wanted this group of characters to succeed though.
Seymour does succeed admirably with holding back information. Seymour holds back enough information about his characters that it makes you want to keep reading to discover what it is that they are hiding.
Setting/World Building – 3: The world building of Soulwoven is the most impressive aspect of the book. I loved the map and following the trek of the adventurers on the map. The different races were similar enough to be inviting but different enough to be interesting. I just wanted more information but Seymour does a great job of never info-dumping to the reader. All the cities are specific and unique albeit they needed more description.
The magic system was a lot of fun that left me asking a lot of questions. If the soulweavers use souls to conjure magic, where do the souls come from, and what happens to the souls after the magic is used? I had this awful thought a few times that creating a large fireball from the souls actually destroyed the souls. That the souls being destroyed were people’s souls that have died in the past. I think if that was revealed it would really spice up the magic system even greater. Having the opposite of soulweavers, the necromancers was a lot of fun, but I wanted to know more about the difference between the necromancer’s power and a soulweaver’s power. Then you added in the Duennin’s power and things got interesting.
Writing Style - 1: The writing style of Soulwoven held the story back greatly. There was a lot of paragraph breaks in this story to relay movement and focus shifting. I didn’t care for this, as the story felt incredibly clunky, and there were more than a few times where the story shifted so dramatically from these breaks that the reader gets disorientated and needs to reread. If you have seen The Bourne Identity movies with the fast cut action sequences that make you a little dizzy and you wondered what just happened, that is how Soulwoven makes you feel at times. The prose just did not flow that great.
Mind and Heart Factor – 2: There really was not anything in Soulwoven that challenged me or moved me. I feel that if the characters were a little stronger some events would have made a larger impact on me but I just shrugged them off. The mind and heart factor is the difference between good books and great books for me and I just wasn’t feeling this one.
I have not read a lot of self-published work and I might come back to Soulwoven in the future and realize that it is a lot better than I thought when compared to other self-published work. This story wasn’t bad, it was just kind of unremarkable. I would recommend this book to people that like adventure fantasy.
I received this book from the author in exchange for an honest review.
Youtube Review: http://youtu.be/UhMmB_6MiZA
Soulwoven by Jeff Seymour, is an ambitious novel by a self published author,with a captivating world, that is comfortingly familiar, but lacks the depth that the reader wants out of it.
1/5 - rescored from a 2. Just didn't like it.
The sequel to Soulwoven, Soulwoven:Exile was just released December 12.
Pros
+ Fascinating world and magic system that begs to be explored
+ Fast paced story
+ Some interesting characters
+ Holds back information amazingly
Cons
– Plot seems like an RPG
– Clunky writing
– Overly-ambitious that places too many demands on the story
Similar Reads: Dragonlance Books by Margaret Weis and Tracy Hickman, Forgotten Realms side stories
Plot – 2: Soulwoven is a story about a group of adventurers attempting to stop the return of a legendary dragon that will destroy the land. If the dragon statues throughout the realm of Guedin break, the dragon will be free. Two brothers, a soulweaver(magic user), and a prince start an adventure that meets up with a hard-faced Aleani and a young female scout to stop the statues from being broken by necromancers wanting to free the dragon. Everyone has their own secrets to hold which might change everything.
Soulwoven’s plot reminded me a lot of an rpg. The focus on the beginning was to setup the conflict, then you gathered your party members, traveled to other cities, and gained more party members. At each main city that the party stopped some conflict occurred. The pacing was brisk and fast, as the party made their way to each city that held a dragon statue, each one a different race and society. There is a lot of ground covered in this one book, more ground covered than a lot of other books within one book. Seymour did not focus much on the traveling aspect though and they go to cities remarkably fast. One chapter they were 3 weeks away from a city and then the next they were right there.
I felt that Soulwoven was so overly-ambitious in its scope that other parts of the story suffered. Even though the story was fast paced, it felt rushed, and I wanted more character interactions. I wanted more conflicts that weren’t settled with magic or a sword to open up more depth in the characters. Even getting a few more camp fire dialogue sequences where characters talked about their fears, hopes, and desires more would have been welcomed. I really disliked the dream aspect of Soulwoven and felt like it detracted from the plot.
Characters – 2: The characters in Soulwoven were extremely hit or miss. Because there was a large party you couldn’t focus on particular characters as much as a reader might like. The story was told through the eyes of the party, each person having their turn to talk about what was going on. That was fine with me but there were about 8 different viewpoint characters and add that with the fact that Soulwoven’s story was overly epic in scope for this book and you got less time for actual character development.
My favorite character was easily Dil, she was the highlight of the book for me. I think I liked Dil because she was written as a sympathetic and flawed character but with her own unique strength. I did not feel any attachment to the other characters but I really wanted to. I really wanted this group of characters to succeed though.
Seymour does succeed admirably with holding back information. Seymour holds back enough information about his characters that it makes you want to keep reading to discover what it is that they are hiding.
Setting/World Building – 3: The world building of Soulwoven is the most impressive aspect of the book. I loved the map and following the trek of the adventurers on the map. The different races were similar enough to be inviting but different enough to be interesting. I just wanted more information but Seymour does a great job of never info-dumping to the reader. All the cities are specific and unique albeit they needed more description.
The magic system was a lot of fun that left me asking a lot of questions. If the soulweavers use souls to conjure magic, where do the souls come from, and what happens to the souls after the magic is used? I had this awful thought a few times that creating a large fireball from the souls actually destroyed the souls. That the souls being destroyed were people’s souls that have died in the past. I think if that was revealed it would really spice up the magic system even greater. Having the opposite of soulweavers, the necromancers was a lot of fun, but I wanted to know more about the difference between the necromancer’s power and a soulweaver’s power. Then you added in the Duennin’s power and things got interesting.
Writing Style - 1: The writing style of Soulwoven held the story back greatly. There was a lot of paragraph breaks in this story to relay movement and focus shifting. I didn’t care for this, as the story felt incredibly clunky, and there were more than a few times where the story shifted so dramatically from these breaks that the reader gets disorientated and needs to reread. If you have seen The Bourne Identity movies with the fast cut action sequences that make you a little dizzy and you wondered what just happened, that is how Soulwoven makes you feel at times. The prose just did not flow that great.
Mind and Heart Factor – 2: There really was not anything in Soulwoven that challenged me or moved me. I feel that if the characters were a little stronger some events would have made a larger impact on me but I just shrugged them off. The mind and heart factor is the difference between good books and great books for me and I just wasn’t feeling this one.
I have not read a lot of self-published work and I might come back to Soulwoven in the future and realize that it is a lot better than I thought when compared to other self-published work. This story wasn’t bad, it was just kind of unremarkable. I would recommend this book to people that like adventure fantasy.
I received this book from the author in exchange for an honest review.
April 16, 2017
I received a free copy of this book.
The book follows several characters along their journey to save the world from the destruction through a dragon. Everyone of them has their own secret and slowly the build relationships between them after being thrown together into this adventure.
To be honest, I had my difficulties getting into the book. It's very character-driven and it jumps chapter-wise from one POV to another. This made it hard for me in the beginning to see what was going on. I felt like there were too many gaps in the story that you had to fill for yourself. I was also quite overwhelmed with the amount of characters and I couldn't really focus on them. I missed some kind of background to connect to them. Also, the story world is quite fascinating but there was hardly any explanation for the different aspects.
I guess I'm more used to books with a lot of description and background info.
Nevertheless, after the first half the book really got to me. There was a lot more information on what was going on and this made it that much easier to follow the story. I hardly could put the book down because I wanted to know what happens to everyone.
Especially the secrets of some of the characters were quite intriguing and since everyone seems to come from a different kind of background the dynamics in the group were interesting.
I like the ending of the book although it was somewhat rushed but I would like to know how the story continues. There's a note at the end of the book talking about book 2 and 3 in the series and I hope I get a chance to read them.
The book follows several characters along their journey to save the world from the destruction through a dragon. Everyone of them has their own secret and slowly the build relationships between them after being thrown together into this adventure.
To be honest, I had my difficulties getting into the book. It's very character-driven and it jumps chapter-wise from one POV to another. This made it hard for me in the beginning to see what was going on. I felt like there were too many gaps in the story that you had to fill for yourself. I was also quite overwhelmed with the amount of characters and I couldn't really focus on them. I missed some kind of background to connect to them. Also, the story world is quite fascinating but there was hardly any explanation for the different aspects.
I guess I'm more used to books with a lot of description and background info.
Nevertheless, after the first half the book really got to me. There was a lot more information on what was going on and this made it that much easier to follow the story. I hardly could put the book down because I wanted to know what happens to everyone.
Especially the secrets of some of the characters were quite intriguing and since everyone seems to come from a different kind of background the dynamics in the group were interesting.
I like the ending of the book although it was somewhat rushed but I would like to know how the story continues. There's a note at the end of the book talking about book 2 and 3 in the series and I hope I get a chance to read them.
October 13, 2014
Disclaimer: I received a free copy of this eBook from netgalley.com in exchange for a honest review.
The cover drew me to this book. That and the short description and the fact that it was a successful Kickstarter campaign. Jeff Seymour has done something interesting with this book. He has blended fantasy, wonderful worldbuilding, and a multiple character story-telling style all in one. This is the tale of six souls brought, or woven, together to save the world.
Multiple personality stories aren't new. I've read a lot of books that alternate between he said, she said stories. But this one... wow... THIS book manages to progress a single story line and keep my interest with six plus different personalities. Each section has it's own flavor and insight and manages to weave a story as it hops from each character.
Parts of this story feels like a typical journey story, where six friends or strangers come together due to a vision to help save the world they know or love. Much of the story wraps around their common bond and the difficulties of growing beyond their home lands. But the story doesn't end where you think it ends. It ends at the end, and that end, is a new beginning. It was a great change of pace and kept my mind guessing as to where Seymour was going. I am definitely looking forward to reading book two!
Bottom Line: If you like getting to know multiple characters closely and like fantasy that has a great world, then this book is for you. It's got hints of Chinese fairytale in this (I'm not sure why I feel this way, but I do.)
The cover drew me to this book. That and the short description and the fact that it was a successful Kickstarter campaign. Jeff Seymour has done something interesting with this book. He has blended fantasy, wonderful worldbuilding, and a multiple character story-telling style all in one. This is the tale of six souls brought, or woven, together to save the world.
Multiple personality stories aren't new. I've read a lot of books that alternate between he said, she said stories. But this one... wow... THIS book manages to progress a single story line and keep my interest with six plus different personalities. Each section has it's own flavor and insight and manages to weave a story as it hops from each character.
Parts of this story feels like a typical journey story, where six friends or strangers come together due to a vision to help save the world they know or love. Much of the story wraps around their common bond and the difficulties of growing beyond their home lands. But the story doesn't end where you think it ends. It ends at the end, and that end, is a new beginning. It was a great change of pace and kept my mind guessing as to where Seymour was going. I am definitely looking forward to reading book two!
Bottom Line: If you like getting to know multiple characters closely and like fantasy that has a great world, then this book is for you. It's got hints of Chinese fairytale in this (I'm not sure why I feel this way, but I do.)
October 21, 2014
I haven't always had the best of luck with high fantasy, but I liked Soulwoven quite a lot. It's a rather traditional epic quest story in many ways and has plenty of well-rendered action, but it's primarily character-driven, and with characters that grow and change in interesting ways. Most, but not all, of the characters are young adults and their questing functions at times as a bildungsroman.
The multiple POV's (I counted 7, plus 2 more that are introduced quite late in the game) are handled well. They are each distinct, and I was impressed by the author's ability to choose which POV should be used in any given scene, although there are some I would have liked to see even more of, or more deeply into.
We also get some love, unrequited and otherwise, which is important but does not overwhelm the rest of what's going on (This Is Good!), but which I found a touch predictable and heteronormative.
I wish there had been a little bit more information about the nature of magic and soulweaving in this world that Seymour has created, but this lack did not affect my overall enjoyment and understanding. Very cool novel. I'm happy I had the opportunity to read the professionally-edited version (although I've heard nice things about the initial Wattpad version as well) and I look forward to the sequel(s).
I received an ARC of this book via NetGalley.
(2014 Rough Path Press/Patchwork Press edition)
The multiple POV's (I counted 7, plus 2 more that are introduced quite late in the game) are handled well. They are each distinct, and I was impressed by the author's ability to choose which POV should be used in any given scene, although there are some I would have liked to see even more of, or more deeply into.
We also get some love, unrequited and otherwise, which is important but does not overwhelm the rest of what's going on (This Is Good!), but which I found a touch predictable and heteronormative.
I wish there had been a little bit more information about the nature of magic and soulweaving in this world that Seymour has created, but this lack did not affect my overall enjoyment and understanding. Very cool novel. I'm happy I had the opportunity to read the professionally-edited version (although I've heard nice things about the initial Wattpad version as well) and I look forward to the sequel(s).
I received an ARC of this book via NetGalley.
(2014 Rough Path Press/Patchwork Press edition)
July 24, 2016
I received the book from a Goodreads First Reads giveaway.
Firstly, the cover is beautiful and the pages have a heft I haven't felt in a book for years.
For the middle-grade age range this book is geared towards, it nails it. For my own mind, I thought the characters were a little half-developed. I... sort of... got to know them, but not truly. I didn't really think there was a depth to their relationships- just felt shallow. However, for younger readers, I doubt they'd be as critical as those of us with backgrounds reading Tolkien, Sanderson, Salvatore, Jordan, etc. I have some younger readers who are wanting to read it, and I think it's a good fit for their age range.
The story premise is rather well done in the grand scheme of things. The idea of soulweaving and the technicalities of its manipulation is quite interesting. I got a little lost trying to sort out the different historical figures and the history of the Sh'ma with Litnig's flashbacks, but the Sh'ma story was intriguing. I'd like to see more of their story introduced in Exile now that we've met them.
I love that the necromancers are this darkly perceived third party that ends up having multiple agendas so it's neither wholly evil nor good. Again, the story premise is pretty well done, especially for a middle grade book.
I'm likely to pick up Exile when it is published, especially since so many of my students want to read this first one.
Firstly, the cover is beautiful and the pages have a heft I haven't felt in a book for years.
For the middle-grade age range this book is geared towards, it nails it. For my own mind, I thought the characters were a little half-developed. I... sort of... got to know them, but not truly. I didn't really think there was a depth to their relationships- just felt shallow. However, for younger readers, I doubt they'd be as critical as those of us with backgrounds reading Tolkien, Sanderson, Salvatore, Jordan, etc. I have some younger readers who are wanting to read it, and I think it's a good fit for their age range.
The story premise is rather well done in the grand scheme of things. The idea of soulweaving and the technicalities of its manipulation is quite interesting. I got a little lost trying to sort out the different historical figures and the history of the Sh'ma with Litnig's flashbacks, but the Sh'ma story was intriguing. I'd like to see more of their story introduced in Exile now that we've met them.
I love that the necromancers are this darkly perceived third party that ends up having multiple agendas so it's neither wholly evil nor good. Again, the story premise is pretty well done, especially for a middle grade book.
I'm likely to pick up Exile when it is published, especially since so many of my students want to read this first one.
July 16, 2014
I won this book from a Goodreads giveaway and found it quite enjoyable. Jeff Seymour created a believable world for his story with an interesting system of magic. The characters were believable and I will keep my eye out for the sequel, once it is available. When that book does become available, I hope there will be more exploration of the relationship between Ryse and Leramis. This book does not conclude the story and leaves the characters in a difficult situation. Loose ends are everywhere with all hell about to break loose.
I did read some of the other reviews left by other readers and I will agree that the pacing is off. I too had to go back and re-read parts. At one point a character mentions that they have not been home in months, and to me, it felt like they had been gone for perhaps a few weeks. At another point, I was given the impression that one of the characters had died in a fight. Then, two chapters later, that character was back in the story with no explanation as to how he recovered. Despite some of these issues with transitions, I kept in mind that the author was new, and found that overall, there was much to like about this book.
I did take a look at Jeff Seymour’s blog. He wrote about a workshop on world building that he is involved in, so I know he is working on his craft. I look forward to seeing where he goes from here.
I did read some of the other reviews left by other readers and I will agree that the pacing is off. I too had to go back and re-read parts. At one point a character mentions that they have not been home in months, and to me, it felt like they had been gone for perhaps a few weeks. At another point, I was given the impression that one of the characters had died in a fight. Then, two chapters later, that character was back in the story with no explanation as to how he recovered. Despite some of these issues with transitions, I kept in mind that the author was new, and found that overall, there was much to like about this book.
I did take a look at Jeff Seymour’s blog. He wrote about a workshop on world building that he is involved in, so I know he is working on his craft. I look forward to seeing where he goes from here.
April 25, 2014
This book gets kind of a mixed review from me. There were times were I couldn’t put it down and times were I just wasn’t motivated to pick it up. This story was really character driven, everyone pretty much lived in their head. There are a number of characters, each with their own secrets and motivations. Yes, they all want to stop the dragon and save the world, but how are they dealing with this journey to do so? How well can they trust the others they travel with and how can they ever trust themselves again after the actions they are taking?
I really liked that chapters from different character’s points of view had different tones and different viewpoints on the same actions. However, there were times that I wasn’t sure what the story was as each person was so focused on their own thoughts and feelings. There were a number of times that a character was so caught up, there would be a brief vague description of what other people were doing, or a mention that someone was talking but not what they were saying.
The physical book itself was pretty good, a nice length, and that halfway point between a hardcover and a softcover that is the flexible funny-textured plastic. Of course there is a second book coming out later this year.
Received the book for free through Goodreads First Reads.
I really liked that chapters from different character’s points of view had different tones and different viewpoints on the same actions. However, there were times that I wasn’t sure what the story was as each person was so focused on their own thoughts and feelings. There were a number of times that a character was so caught up, there would be a brief vague description of what other people were doing, or a mention that someone was talking but not what they were saying.
The physical book itself was pretty good, a nice length, and that halfway point between a hardcover and a softcover that is the flexible funny-textured plastic. Of course there is a second book coming out later this year.
Received the book for free through Goodreads First Reads.
July 10, 2014
Reading Jeff Seymour's 'Soulwoven' reminded me of why I want to write fantasy. Jeff's world comes alive with beautiful imagery in this astounding first volume of what I expect to be a wonderful and unique series. The characters are sketched with depth and its hard not to love Litnig, Cole and the relationships that are developed in the adventure that unfolds before them. Soulwoven is a good read and an easy one at that. The story is well written and the plot compels the pages to turn. Before you realize, you may already be finished! It is well worth your time to give it a try and I am very much looking forward to having the next book in hand. Jeff Seymour's Soulwoven has inspired me to pick back up my fantasy writing as I have now seen how a self published author can establish himself with a solid debut worthy of the recognition of a traditional book.
September 15, 2014
Jeff was a guildmate in my MMO years, so it kinda hurts to only click 3 stars, which in today's inflated star economy feels a little like a slap. Please note that 3 stars is supposed to mean I liked it.
What's also true, though, is that a few months later, all I can remember about "Soulwoven" is that the book struck me as standard-issue fantasy, constructed in the expected shape out of the usual tropes. That said, I LIKE fantasy. I LIKE the usual tropes.
More to the point, Jeff can write a solid sentence. (Thinking here about the "Inkheart" series by Cornelia Funke, which is far more original, but whose sentences often emit a clunking sound just as you get to the period.)
Who would enjoy "Soulwoven?" Anyone who thinks fantasy should be competently written but doesn't need it to reimagine its genre or mesmerize its readers.
What's also true, though, is that a few months later, all I can remember about "Soulwoven" is that the book struck me as standard-issue fantasy, constructed in the expected shape out of the usual tropes. That said, I LIKE fantasy. I LIKE the usual tropes.
More to the point, Jeff can write a solid sentence. (Thinking here about the "Inkheart" series by Cornelia Funke, which is far more original, but whose sentences often emit a clunking sound just as you get to the period.)
Who would enjoy "Soulwoven?" Anyone who thinks fantasy should be competently written but doesn't need it to reimagine its genre or mesmerize its readers.
April 28, 2014
Well what can I say? This is one intense fantasy world. You always know you're in for an adventure when there's a map in the front. I want to give this book a solid 4.5 stars. I love the characters and I feel for their relationships amongst each other. Where I have trouble though is the whole time spacing and the traveling in conjunction with the conflict. And I thought that Dil, Cole and Lit were supposed to travel back south after one moment but they continued along. Maybe I missed that part where it was explained.
Regardless I think that Seymour has done a good job fleshing out this world. I am excited to pick up his second novel in the series.
I received this book for free through Goodreads first reads.
Regardless I think that Seymour has done a good job fleshing out this world. I am excited to pick up his second novel in the series.
I received this book for free through Goodreads first reads.
April 16, 2015
I found this a little flat for me. I enjoyed the story and could a nice series coming from it, but I just didn't care about the characters. I couldn't connect with them, probably due to the flipping between PoV in the book I felt the characters lacked depth and were simply names on a page rather than characters that I root for and cheer on.
The three star review reflects that I recognise the potential of the story but it just didn't catch me.
Inevitably I judge books on how eagerly I approach reading it and I have to say towards the end I had to force myself to finish this because I wasn't invested in the ending, I was indifferent.
The three star review reflects that I recognise the potential of the story but it just didn't catch me.
Inevitably I judge books on how eagerly I approach reading it and I have to say towards the end I had to force myself to finish this because I wasn't invested in the ending, I was indifferent.
February 25, 2014
Harks back to the basics of Fantasy tales: an epic journey, a desperate band of misfits trying to save the world from a prophesied evil.
But don't be taken in by the tropes they seem to follow: Some fantastically gorgeous prose and some really cool action sequences and a plot that revolves around some unforgettable characters who would make you cheer for them!
Here be more coherent thoughts: http://bit.ly/MoGbiH
It's like coming back to familiar turfs in high fantasy. but a very alluring tale of magic, adventure and DRAGONS - will appeal to all of us lovers of epic fantasy!
But don't be taken in by the tropes they seem to follow: Some fantastically gorgeous prose and some really cool action sequences and a plot that revolves around some unforgettable characters who would make you cheer for them!
Here be more coherent thoughts: http://bit.ly/MoGbiH
It's like coming back to familiar turfs in high fantasy. but a very alluring tale of magic, adventure and DRAGONS - will appeal to all of us lovers of epic fantasy!
May 8, 2014
I am one of the original backers of this book, and I would say that was money well invested. The plot was beautiful and grasping. The characters development was great, having loved and hated some characters. The language is simple but that was compensated by the amount of creativity that flowed into this. I was annoyed by how too much "telling" and not enough "showing", but this kinda faded in the second half. Def worth your time if you enjoy fantasy reads.
January 27, 2015
This book was a lot of fun to read. I really enjoyed to the characters. I love the fact that each character had their own secrets, and their own motivations. Very well done! I am definitely going to start reading the second book in the series.I also like the fact that each character was being tested, and trying to figure out how much they can reveal about themselves, and how much they can trust one another. Very well done
March 20, 2014
What a beautiful adventure! The imagery in this book is by far my favorite. I loved the world Seymour created and the characters were not only believable but people you couldn’t help but get attached to. I can’t wait till the next book!
May 13, 2015
This book has the best opening line, It hooked me right into the story and never let me go. It is one of the best fantasy books I've ever read because it also has a bit of mystery to it. The characters were relatable. I highly recommend this book to readers of all type..
April 20, 2014
Soulwoven is a fun read. It builds plenty of momentum towards the end and leaves you excited to jump into the next book, hopefully sometime soon!
December 23, 2014
I'm not sure how many more viewpoints this story needs to be told from but I can't keep up with all the shifting characters. I'm done.
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