Following on from the shocking events of Indestructible Hulk Vol.4, Bruce Banner lies at death's door! If he survives, it won't be as the Bruce Banner we've known! How will the Hulk wreak vengeance on Banner's assailant? How can he?
Mark Waid (born March 21, 1962 in Hueytown, Alabama) is an American comic book writer. He is best known for his eight-year run as writer of the DC Comics' title The Flash, as well as his scripting of the limited series Kingdom Come and Superman: Birthright, and his work on Marvel Comics' Captain America.
The Incredible Hulk has been around a long time and he’s gone through many writers, some of whom have toyed with the Hulk persona - Gray Hulk, Green Hulk, Dumb (with various shades of dumbness) Hulk, Smart Hulk, Crafty Hulk. These are the basic highpoints. There were others, briefly. To wit:
Top Ten Versions of the Hulk
1. Camp Counselor Hulk – Hello Muddah! Hello Faddah! Hulk smash Camp Granada!
2. Big Top Clown Hulk – Three ring circus of mayhem!
3. Geologist Hulk – I’ve got your soil sample right here, pal!
4. Ballerina Hulk – He’s got the moves, but the trouble was finding him a tutu in his size."
5. Hulk the Gardener – Like another half-wit, Chance, he likes to garden and he already has a green thumb.
6. Prom King Hulk – He sat on the corsage.
7. Long Live Murica Hulk – Hulk smash puny commies!
8. Chef Hulk – How many ways can you cook a can of baked beans, big guy?
9. Motivational speaker Hulk – Sadly, this one only lasted one issue. Hulk smash puny, Dale Carnegie!
10. Dog whisperer Hulk – Hulk love puppies!
Before someone Anne says, “You ass, this isn’t a review”, here:
Mark Waid’s done some interesting things during his run (one of the better writers for this character), but here he’s running on fumes. Going against the basic tenets of the Hulk (healing factor, invulnerability, et. al.), Waid does a reverse “Flowers for Algernon” and reduces Bruce Banner to a simpleton.
It’s not horrible, but I don’t know how much more Waid has left in the tank for this character.
WARNING: SPOILERS AHEAD! If you're picky about that sort of thing...
Someone shot Bruce Banner juuuuust right, lodging bullets in the perfect position to keep him from transforming into the Hulk.
Then they kidnapped him, and posed as S.H.I.E.L.D. agents in order to get the World's Best Brain Surgeon to come in and keep him alive while they harvested DNA & other goodies off of his comatose body.
The surgeon knew Bruce back in his college days, so we get to see some flashbacks. I was unaware of this, but, apparently, there's a pecking order among smart people, and Bruce was too nerdy to hang with the regular nerds. He had to eat his PB&J at a lunch table all by himself.
So there he is lying on a table, brain exposed to the air, when {spoilers removed} happened, allowing him to escape! First order of business? Fight a bear!
Ok, no. That didn't happen. But it would have been really cool! What really happened? So, when Bruce transforms into Hulk he rapidly heals, right? Well, this time around he's rapidly healing wrong. His brain is all janked up from the bullets & surgery, and all of the synapses are fusing with the wrong fuckifIknow stuff in his noggin. Long story short...he's got brain damage.
By now, S.H.I.E.L.D. is trying to keep Bruce safe from whoever did this to him. But the folks who were poking around in his head managed to get enough DNA to clone a lump of goo, put it in a jello mold, name it Abomination, and send it after Hulk.
However, if Bruce transforms into the Hulk to save his friends, it will cement the brain damage...permanently! Not really. Tony can fix that shit.
The ending leaves it open for a new kind of Hulk, thanks to Mr. Stark's favorite cocktail. I'm unsure how well this will work in the future, but for now I'm interested in seeing how it all plays out.
Like Mark Waid’s other Marvel series, Daredevil, Hulk gets a reboot as adjective-less Hulk for no particular reason. At least in Daredevil it was because Matt moved to the West Coast. Here? No clue, I didn’t read Indestructible Hulk Volume 4 so not sure what happened there. They told him his armour was crap so he took it off and Marvel said “new #1 time!”? From what I can tell anyway, that’s the only change from that series and this.
So someone’s shot Bruce Banner in the head for some reason. Bruce might no longer be the brainy opposite of Hulk as his injury has reduced him to a simpleton, much like Hulk minus the strength! And here comes Abomination for the umpteenth time! Hulk (yawn) smash…
Considering he walks in the same circles as geniuses like Tony Stark and Reed Richards, reversing brain damage shouldn’t sound as impossible as it does in the real world - and, in the Marvel Universe, it isn’t! Tension: gone! But as Maria Hill tells him, if Banner keeps turning into the Hulk while he, Banner, is still recovering from his head injury, he won’t heal properly, like broken bones not set correctly. He can’t Hulk out and fight Abomination - he could get permanent brain damage and wind up a vegetable! Wasn’t this a plot from one of the Rocky movies?
The subtitle - Banner DOA - is just stupid because at no point is Banner dead, and the question posed on the cover - Who Shot Bruce Banner? - is barely explored. We are left unsatisfied as the motives for the shadowy organisation behind the shooting are never revealed, nor are they recognisable as characters when we do see them.
And why would they want to create an Abomination anyway? It seemed like they wanted to harvest Banner’s DNA to create their own Hulks/Abominations, but they already had that - so why were they still chasing Banner? Because they wanted to see yet another fight between Hulk and an Abomination? Like Tony Stark and Extremis, Abomination gets used way too much in Hulk stories.
There’s little substance to this volume as it seems to be a lame excuse for another lengthy Hulk/Abomination battle with some Avengers tossed in and little else. The whole Banner-as-simpleton storyline is presented and wrapped up in a couple of issues. The measly four-issue length underlines the disposable nature of the book (most Marvel trade paperbacks are five or six issues long). Waid’s Hulk, reboot or otherwise, remains unimpressive and increasingly tired and stale - no wonder he left the title after this!
It starts with Hulk being shot and SHIELD trying to fix him as he has become dumb and they go to a town in Colorado and we see SHIELD trying to fix this mess but what they do is make it worse and the we see the effects of it, Banner vs Abomination and the Avengers coming in and the deep action they take to save their friend but what happens next with Iron man and Hulk changes everything. Its a death and a rebirth and leads to one of the greatest stories ever! Its awesome and yeah its short but the sequence of event sis great and pays off the stories that started in the previous volumes really well plus that scene with Maria and Matt was fun too. The art by Bagley not the greatest here but was still fun to read through.
Bruce Banner was shot in the head. Two shots went into his brain and it appears he will never be the same again.
I know this may sound nitpicky, but how on earth could someone actually shoot Bruce Banner. The explanation was very neat, but I remember the line where Banner tried to kill himself and the other guy spat the bullet out. It just feels overly convenient that this could happen.
Bruce has significant brain damage. It even effects The Hulk. I am interested to see what this will mean for Bruce and The Hulk in the upcoming volumes.
After the interesting cliffhanger at the end of the last volume of Waid's Hulk, I had high hopes for this new volume, and there are some innovative new ideas at play. However, by the end of the volume they've all outstayed their welcome and we're back to some semblance of the status quo, which is disappointing. However, considering the last time a volume of Hulk opened with someone getting shot, we were subjected to Loeb's Hulk, this is definitely a step up. With Banner basically out of action, Iron Man, Maria Hill, and some other supporting characters have to hold their own to keep the ball rolling, and for the most part they manage it. Mark Bagley's artwork is great as always, but I do feel that he's a bit wasted on Hulk books; his art lends itself to more dynamic heroes like Spider-Man or Captain America, whereas his Hulk always looks a little out of place.
Way to short for anything to actually happen and what did was mostly unsatisfying, or one-dimensional (both the majority of the time, actually). Anyone know of any GOOD Hulk comics for me to read?
The Hulk series has taken an odd turn in the Marvel universe. And unlike many other popular titles right now, still keeps its story pretty dark and serious. The general premise is nothing too new, to be honest. We have seen it before, a hundred different versions of the Hulk/Banner persona. We are left with a super-intelligent version of the Hulk, who comes off vaguely similar as the current Superior Iron Man. Driven, but incredibly selfish. While not a terrible series, I did manage to be entertained enough through the two volumes, I am interested to see where Marvel takes this classic monster/hero, into the next iteration of the Marvel universe. And while I love a smart Hulk, rocking a sexy mohawk and beard, my hopes are for something a little more fun next time around.
Bruce Banner is left for dead after two gunshots to the back of the head. Shield is able to keep him alive, but at what cost?
Waid's final tale about the Hulk is a good mix of Banner and Hulk personalities. Well, in Banner's case, lack of personality. His treatment for the gunshot has left him in a state such that his iq has dropped significantly. Shield places him in a small idyllic town to keep him calm and work through this new mindset. However, the villains who shot Banner find out where he is, create a clone of the Abomination, and send him after the Hulk. This leads to more brain damage as their battle is quite brutal. The avengers arrive to help and specifically Tony Stark takes Bruce to try and repair his mind using extremis. The results leave us with the question of how well did the cure work, as it appears it not only brought Bruce's intellect back, but magnified it significantly.
I thought Waid found a good place to stop his story, leaving it very much open ended for the next writer to come in and play with the ultra smart Bruce Banner. This of course leads to the question what does this mean for the Hulk as well?
Overall, it was a good run for Waid with the Jade giant. I wouldn't say it is one of the great Hulk runs, but had some fun story lines that allowed Bruce Banner to be more of the star at times. Definitely check out this volume if you enjoyed Waid's run so far.
I never saw a story like this one!! Lots of character moments with a very altered Banner. Forget everything you knew about the Hulk! This saga pulls out all the stops! If you like complex stories don't miss this one!
mmm I feel like the depiction of brain damaged Bruce is a little... problematic... but I don't feel qualified to go into it. just a little simplistic for such a complex issue! and very tidily resolved! although the murder mystery was not. Perhaps Hulk, Vol. 2: Omega Hulk.
but, as ever, I'm 500% here for Bruce and Tony being stone-cold bros.
Well that was just silly. There are a few nifty ideas but the script just can't make any of them really credible. This is quintessential comic book schlock.
Seria Indestructible Hulk spod pióra Waida miała swoje momenty na tyle dobre, iż zapamiętam kilka rzeczy, jak np. wizytę Hulka w Jotunhaimie. Na pewno też w pamięć zapada finałowa sekwencja serii, kiedy ktoś strzela Bannerowi w tył głowy, wywołując takie a nie inne skutki. Hulk się nie pojawia, Banner pada na podłoże? Powstało kilka pytań? Kto? W jaki sposób? Po co?
Pierwszy tom nowej serii pt. Hulk, nie daje nam jasnych odpowiedzi. Widzimy złych, ale nie wiemy kim tak do końca są. Wiemy, iż całe zamieszanie było im potrzebne, aby pobrać od Bannera materiał genetyczny i stworzyć kolejną wersję Abominacji. Dowiadujemy się też w jaki sposób w ogóle można tak zranić osobę, która zamienia się w zielonego olbrzyma. Teraz czas na konsekwencje.
A te są zadziwiająco opłakane. Jeden strzał zrobił z Bannera jednostkę upodobnioną do ludzi opóźnionych w rozwoju. Łatwo wpada w gniew, gdy dostaje od przybranych dziadków pudełko z jedzeniem i nie jest go w stanie sam otworzyć. Zupełnie jak dziecko. Jednocześnie każdy tu wiem, co się stanie gdy mężczyzna straci nad sobą panowanie... Fajna scena, kiedy część agentów szybko reaguje, aby oddalić od Bannera kilku nietolerancyjnych typów.
Spektakl z Abominacją nie podobał mi się wcale. Fajnie, że w jego trakcie włączają się Avengers. Fajnie było zobaczyć Hulka z jakimś przedmiotem w ręce. Reszta totalnie banalna i wyświechtana. Nie czułem w ogóle wagi podjętych tutaj decyzji, zwłaszcza, że wszystko zmierzało do jednego rozwiązania (i prosiłem w myślach, aby tego nie zrobiono...) Końcówka była niezła, zwłaszcza gdy sprawę w swoje ręce wziął Tony Stark. Czuć, że Avengers "dbają" o swoich. Po Bagley'u spodziewałem się naprawdę więcej niż dostałem, aczkolwiek całość jest poprawna. Taki jest cały, nowy Hulk. Poprawny, choć ma kilka fajnych pomysłów i de facto ocena jest nieco zawyżona. Aczkolwiek sam koncept mi się bardzo podobał.
This is a recurring question in this volume. The people who did this are too powerful, intelligent even. They possess technology that are powered by materials from the negative zone. They are capable of animating another hulk by means of Banner's blood. With such great power, comes great irresponsibility. Though we see these people and learn their motives, there is no background or a name to them. They simply operate as fake S.H.I.E.L.D agents.
Maria Hill, The Avengers, Daredevil and an old aquaintance from Banner's past make appearance in this explosive story.
The artwork has good details, and brings character expressions to life.
I love the idea of what happens to Banner and the mystery of who shot him, however both are dealt with in strange ways. The mystery is just alluded to and there is next to no movement there. As for Banner, his new condition could have been a strong plot point for some time but it seems to have been mostly resolved in four issues. While I understand his new status quo could definitely change that, I still see it as a missed opportunity. I loved Mark Bagley's art, as always. Overall, a decent new start with some missed chances.
So we needed a new Hulk #1, why? This is the same writer as Indestructible Hulk and follows directly on that story. Why would we not keep going?
At the end of Indestructible Hulk, Bruce Banner was shot in the back of the head. Not enough to kill him, but enough to do brain damage. The Hulk can heal, but if everything isn't in the right place it doesn't heal well.
So I guess it's not Indestructible Hulk because he's destructible?
Just OK: this was my turkey for Friday 13. I'm less than satisfied because it seems obvious that Waid has to pick up the pieces from his run and set them back in order for the next talent. Bagley turns in his usual fine storytelling, but little can rescue this, even interesting character twists and turns. There is more magic than science to Banner, his brain, and the bullet... and not only can I not remember who shot him, it ceases to matter or interest us in this sequence. One to grow on...
Banner has been shot in the head by a shadowy organisation who want his genetic information. Can he survive? Can he get better? This is a decent storyline which shows how well thought of Banner is in the Marvel universe. I particularly liked the Avengers reactions. A good read.
Some fascinating ideas lost to an endless slugfest ... Waid always writes a solid story, but the tragedy of a brain damaged Bruce Banner getting worse with each transformation is lost in the rush to get to the next superhero battle.
Enjoyed the pencils and inks, but the colors could've complimented them more. As Waid typically does, he created a compelling story and I'm interested to read where it goes.
I loved this, i'm a massive fan of the Hulk and cannot wait to see where this goes, i need to know who the bad guys are and if they are who i think they might be.
Waid hace un excelente trabajo con Banner y su introducción como Doctor Green. Un arco necesario si se quiere entender la aparición de un Hulk lúcido en la serie de Avengers de Hickman.
I was having a difficult time collecting my thoughts about this volume into words but the bottom line is that I just can't bring myself to like any part of it. The plotline of Bruce being 'damned to a living hell' because he doesn't have his intelligence anymore seems really ableist to me since people with intellectual disabilities in reality are often seen as living inferior lives even when they can be as happy as anyone else if they're not being bullied or neglected.
From a writing aspect these first few issues are messy, the cover of the first comic contains the text 'Who shot Bruce Banner?' leading readers to believe finding the complete explanation will be the major story, yet that question is not answered in the following volume. Instead it is pushed to the side for a plot built on drama surrounding Bruce possibly losing his genius, which is wrapped up quickly and shallowly in the last few pages.
Maybe the following comics will improve upon their start, but the beginning of this series is not nearly as well-written or gripping as I wish it was.
This entire review has been hidden because of spoilers.