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How Do We Relationship? #13
付き合ってあげてもいいかな 13 [Tsukiatte Agete mo Ii ka na 13]
あなたと笑いあえるのがこんなにも嬉しい。
付き合い続ける未来を選べず
優梨愛と別れた冴子と、
環との別れを乗り越えて
前に進むことを決めたみわ。
「あたしも。まだ帰りたくない!
このままどっか行こ!」
オール明け、元恋人同士の
無計画旅行が始まる――!
名付けがたい関係のあわいを描く、第13巻!
付き合い続ける未来を選べず
優梨愛と別れた冴子と、
環との別れを乗り越えて
前に進むことを決めたみわ。
「あたしも。まだ帰りたくない!
このままどっか行こ!」
オール明け、元恋人同士の
無計画旅行が始まる――!
名付けがたい関係のあわいを描く、第13巻!
192 pages, Paperback
First published October 18, 2024
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September 24, 2025
It has been a long, long road to get here and, boy, did playing the long game ever pay off for this story. Sae and Miwa have one of the best, most believable, relationships I’ve ever read in manga. Lesbian or otherwise.
What I love about this volume is that it shows you can change without fundamentally leaving behind the person you were. These are not the Sae and Miwa we met before, but they absolutely are at the same time.
That’s particularly noticeable in the way that they’ve changed sexually. After her experience with Tamaki, Miwa has shamed herself so much that her libido has given her a serious complex. Sae, however, has a far better idea of what she likes and is more responsive than before.
Of course, they aren’t dating, so does the change to their sex lives matter? And that’s the big thrust of this volume - watching these two navigate a strange new normal for them as friends and… maybe more.
It’s been a heck of a wait to see these two together, but dear lord was it ever worth it. The subtlety of them getting closer and clearly beginning to once more evaluate their feelings is incredible. The scene at the manga cafe and the one where they get asked point blank if they’re dating again are amazing.
Entwined with this is the search for jobs and the anxiety of cusping on adulthood, mixed in with all the other worries about life and sex. Sae falls in with a supportive group of lesbians, plus one predatory one, while Miwa seems poised to get overwhelmed with stress again.
This elegantly fleshes the two of them out further and shows how each has grown and also how in tune they are with one another’s moods. There’s no hiding from their problems when they’re together. They also know how to care for one another when those problems arise.
They’ve grown up, basically. And with that change to themselves comes the possibility of doing this again, but getting it right. It’s absolutely fantastic and a triumph from start to finish.
I love that this feels so believable in its dilemmas - nobody ever felt like a “rival” or anything. Sexual difficulties crop up like they easily could given what they’ve been through. Heck, it’s scary to think about trying again and still failing - that’s relatable to anyone who had a broken heart.
Which is what makes this so enjoyable. It is like nothing else in terms of what it deals with and its emotional complexity. These are messy people who have sometimes made poor decisions and I still root for them the whole way. It is one of the best college-set manga I’ve seen and I could gush about it for ages.
5 stars - this is handily one of the top five yuri manga I’ve ever read and it’s an easy top ten pick (at minimum) for everything else. I’m genuinely treasuring the time spent with these two.
What I love about this volume is that it shows you can change without fundamentally leaving behind the person you were. These are not the Sae and Miwa we met before, but they absolutely are at the same time.
That’s particularly noticeable in the way that they’ve changed sexually. After her experience with Tamaki, Miwa has shamed herself so much that her libido has given her a serious complex. Sae, however, has a far better idea of what she likes and is more responsive than before.
Of course, they aren’t dating, so does the change to their sex lives matter? And that’s the big thrust of this volume - watching these two navigate a strange new normal for them as friends and… maybe more.
It’s been a heck of a wait to see these two together, but dear lord was it ever worth it. The subtlety of them getting closer and clearly beginning to once more evaluate their feelings is incredible. The scene at the manga cafe and the one where they get asked point blank if they’re dating again are amazing.
Entwined with this is the search for jobs and the anxiety of cusping on adulthood, mixed in with all the other worries about life and sex. Sae falls in with a supportive group of lesbians, plus one predatory one, while Miwa seems poised to get overwhelmed with stress again.
This elegantly fleshes the two of them out further and shows how each has grown and also how in tune they are with one another’s moods. There’s no hiding from their problems when they’re together. They also know how to care for one another when those problems arise.
They’ve grown up, basically. And with that change to themselves comes the possibility of doing this again, but getting it right. It’s absolutely fantastic and a triumph from start to finish.
I love that this feels so believable in its dilemmas - nobody ever felt like a “rival” or anything. Sexual difficulties crop up like they easily could given what they’ve been through. Heck, it’s scary to think about trying again and still failing - that’s relatable to anyone who had a broken heart.
Which is what makes this so enjoyable. It is like nothing else in terms of what it deals with and its emotional complexity. These are messy people who have sometimes made poor decisions and I still root for them the whole way. It is one of the best college-set manga I’ve seen and I could gush about it for ages.
5 stars - this is handily one of the top five yuri manga I’ve ever read and it’s an easy top ten pick (at minimum) for everything else. I’m genuinely treasuring the time spent with these two.
December 20, 2025
this is soooo good much better than green yuri dare i say
May 11, 2025
I feel like this is a monumental moment because it’s the first manga series I’ve ever finished. It’s a bit embarrassing that my followers can see that I binged yuri though …
December 11, 2025
wow :’)
One of the best yuri manga I’ve ever read. I cannot stress enough how refreshing it is to read a yuri manga about two adult women who are actually in a relationship with each other. I know that this has been changing over the last decade or so of the genre, but there’s still such an overwhelming majority of series (of the ones that got translated, at least) that end with the characters resolving their feelings into a formal relationship, thereby avoiding having to actually represent anything truthful about the reality of navigating a lesbian relationship. The ones that did often got siloed off into different categories (josei, primarily). I think the big reason that HDWR? works so well is that it’s able to walk the tightrope so well—it maintains a mostly-light tone that feels cohesive with the genre while still being able to display actual conflict that feels so devastatingly real, definitively still working within yuri tropes and structures and yet lending them an honesty that make them feel brand-new and exciting.
When I started this for the first time, I didn’t quite get what the hype was. It starts off strong, and I liked how fast everything was moving, but about halfway through I got a little bored at what I felt was just the usual yuri manga wheel-spinning slump. I think the final section of this sticks the landing so astonishingly that I retro-actively feel better about that mid-way lull—in fact I no longer consider it a lull at all. By the time we get to the end, the manga is actually operating closer to the classic will-they-wont-they vibe than it has ever before, but in this case there’s 130 chapters of WEIGHT behind it and it hits like a truck. When I first read it, the diversions to focus on other relationships instead of what was clearly the “main” one felt wasteful, but I now consider that a failure on my part resulting in an understandable lack of faith. Usually sections like that in a yuri manga are wasteful, just meandering around without much purpose until we get to where we all know we’re going. But HDWR?’s commitment to displaying these relationships with just as much gravity and honesty as the “main” one makes these sections absolutely essential. I was in general struck with the way that this uses the fact that the main couple getting together is a foregone conclusion to really great effect. As in all great romance writing, that forgone conclusion becomes a purposeful source of dramatic irony and tension, and gives that middle section this really interesting note of looming tragedy as we see these relationships decline and watch as they try and save a sinking ship. It can be really brutal!
And again, not to keep hammering this point home, but it is so rare that I read a manga that feels so true to the actual experience of being a lesbian in the world!! There is such a care and understanding here of the ways in which lesbian relationships actually function, how they’re different and complicated in their own unique ways, that feels so true to life and goes so much further beyond the basic closet politics of a lot of yuri. I could try to list examples of where this series gets it right but it’s just the whole thing.
Also the art is just so so SO good. The character designs are incredible, every main character is so distinctive, and one of the greatest joys of the thing is seeing all their different outfits, each of them perfectly attuned to that characters unique sense of style. So cute!!!!! Even one-off background characters have like mathematically perfect, main-character-level designs, and pulling that off in such a grounded setting and art style is pretty impressive. I love the way that the designs change subtly throughout the series—watching their hair grow in real time and seeing their style change as they get older, all while still feeling so distinctly like them is such a joy!
Also it’s just so fucking EXPRESSIVE!! and often in such subtle ways that I find really impressive for something with such a consistently cutesy art style. It manages to hit all the usual cutesy explosive emotional beats and all of the tiny little complicated micro-expressions without skipping a beat, and it all feels right and natural and cohesive within the art style. Super impressive! I genuinely don’t understand how they got some of those expressions onto the page. The amount that can be communicated with a single reaction panel feels like a genuine miracle to behold, and it really contributes to how real and honest this whole thing feels. I really love the thing that starts happening later in the series when we get a close-up and their eyes are drawn all hazy… it's a really beautiful effect.
(This is a stand-in for the series as a whole, I'll transfer it over to Vol. 14 whenever it gets properly published)
One of the best yuri manga I’ve ever read. I cannot stress enough how refreshing it is to read a yuri manga about two adult women who are actually in a relationship with each other. I know that this has been changing over the last decade or so of the genre, but there’s still such an overwhelming majority of series (of the ones that got translated, at least) that end with the characters resolving their feelings into a formal relationship, thereby avoiding having to actually represent anything truthful about the reality of navigating a lesbian relationship. The ones that did often got siloed off into different categories (josei, primarily). I think the big reason that HDWR? works so well is that it’s able to walk the tightrope so well—it maintains a mostly-light tone that feels cohesive with the genre while still being able to display actual conflict that feels so devastatingly real, definitively still working within yuri tropes and structures and yet lending them an honesty that make them feel brand-new and exciting.
When I started this for the first time, I didn’t quite get what the hype was. It starts off strong, and I liked how fast everything was moving, but about halfway through I got a little bored at what I felt was just the usual yuri manga wheel-spinning slump. I think the final section of this sticks the landing so astonishingly that I retro-actively feel better about that mid-way lull—in fact I no longer consider it a lull at all. By the time we get to the end, the manga is actually operating closer to the classic will-they-wont-they vibe than it has ever before, but in this case there’s 130 chapters of WEIGHT behind it and it hits like a truck. When I first read it, the diversions to focus on other relationships instead of what was clearly the “main” one felt wasteful, but I now consider that a failure on my part resulting in an understandable lack of faith. Usually sections like that in a yuri manga are wasteful, just meandering around without much purpose until we get to where we all know we’re going. But HDWR?’s commitment to displaying these relationships with just as much gravity and honesty as the “main” one makes these sections absolutely essential. I was in general struck with the way that this uses the fact that the main couple getting together is a foregone conclusion to really great effect. As in all great romance writing, that forgone conclusion becomes a purposeful source of dramatic irony and tension, and gives that middle section this really interesting note of looming tragedy as we see these relationships decline and watch as they try and save a sinking ship. It can be really brutal!
And again, not to keep hammering this point home, but it is so rare that I read a manga that feels so true to the actual experience of being a lesbian in the world!! There is such a care and understanding here of the ways in which lesbian relationships actually function, how they’re different and complicated in their own unique ways, that feels so true to life and goes so much further beyond the basic closet politics of a lot of yuri. I could try to list examples of where this series gets it right but it’s just the whole thing.
Also the art is just so so SO good. The character designs are incredible, every main character is so distinctive, and one of the greatest joys of the thing is seeing all their different outfits, each of them perfectly attuned to that characters unique sense of style. So cute!!!!! Even one-off background characters have like mathematically perfect, main-character-level designs, and pulling that off in such a grounded setting and art style is pretty impressive. I love the way that the designs change subtly throughout the series—watching their hair grow in real time and seeing their style change as they get older, all while still feeling so distinctly like them is such a joy!
Also it’s just so fucking EXPRESSIVE!! and often in such subtle ways that I find really impressive for something with such a consistently cutesy art style. It manages to hit all the usual cutesy explosive emotional beats and all of the tiny little complicated micro-expressions without skipping a beat, and it all feels right and natural and cohesive within the art style. Super impressive! I genuinely don’t understand how they got some of those expressions onto the page. The amount that can be communicated with a single reaction panel feels like a genuine miracle to behold, and it really contributes to how real and honest this whole thing feels. I really love the thing that starts happening later in the series when we get a close-up and their eyes are drawn all hazy… it's a really beautiful effect.
(This is a stand-in for the series as a whole, I'll transfer it over to Vol. 14 whenever it gets properly published)
July 6, 2025
The series has come to an end and what a ride it’s been! This has been a very random reading endeavour of mine that unexpectedly morphed into a comfort read. I’ve grown to really care for these characters including the side characters and really enjoyed seeing them navigate life and all its ups and downs. That being said, I do have to admit that the ending of the series did feel kinda rushed to me
September 9, 2025
Muy real, me ha encantado toda la serie.... mis niñas
October 18, 2025
i want to say so much but i don’t even know if i’ll be able to express how close and real this manga has felt to home. this is by far the best manga i’ve ever read, it is so well written and so realistic that sometimes it is overwhelming to just read it. my life has changed since i’ve read the first volume and so does theirs, which i think it made me feel even closer to the series.
at first i was a bit disappointed when they broke up and started dating other people cause i always saw people calling it ‘the realistic lesbian relationship’ and somehow healthy so i was confused. i wanted to keep reading it and i am so glad i did.
it touches the every perspective of a relationship. wanting a relationship, getting into one because you’re curious and want to kiss girls!! -and in a homophobic country too- the closeness of two people but still being scared of intimacy. having traumas and therefore responses to the said traumas, scared of having that communication and connection but still trying to keep it going somehow. even though they know it’s doomed.
the manga portrayed the sexual relationship in people so well i was literally in tears as i was reading, as a person who is sexually abused in the past -so being hypersexual but also in the ace spectrum- people do things to us without even realizing that they’ve done something so crucial. it haunts you for days, weeks, sometimes years: it makes you scared to even feel or want something sexual, feeling disgusted of yourself. but with people loving you, teaching you that it isn’t a sin to feel good, to feel wanted by the person you love and treating you so kindly. it gets somehow easier to let them love you as the way you are and unlearn all the things that haunted you.
they’ve been around each other and seen so much that they started learning to love one another for who they are instead of just loving the idea of a relationship. in the end, i always come back to this thought that love is just this thing. we can always hold on to our imagination but people are who they are, we mess up and we have scars and sorrows as well as other personality traits. as humans we affect each other more than we realize, we can’t just be good and bad. it is far more complicated than that, which makes love so special and sacred. we love each other in spite of that, someone doing you wrong or hurting you can’t erase the love you have for them and still trying to understand them.
saeko and miwa learned to be friends who are there for each other, after seeing that wanting a relationship is not enough for a relationship, they met other people and had other relationships and grew eventually. their relationships with their partners was also real, love being not enough, being two incompatible people as the relationship goes on etc. i liked that it was also portrayed so well.
they were so scared of trying and failing again but they couldn’t resist each other, couldn’t resist the love they both have for each other. saeko has become so mature too !! my girl.
saeko’s relationship with being a lesbian in a country like this, having to deal with not fitting it due to that, it also felt so close to home. i used to hate her in the beginning but i’ve grown to love and understand her.
i just can’t stop talking about this manga ugh help
at first i was a bit disappointed when they broke up and started dating other people cause i always saw people calling it ‘the realistic lesbian relationship’ and somehow healthy so i was confused. i wanted to keep reading it and i am so glad i did.
it touches the every perspective of a relationship. wanting a relationship, getting into one because you’re curious and want to kiss girls!! -and in a homophobic country too- the closeness of two people but still being scared of intimacy. having traumas and therefore responses to the said traumas, scared of having that communication and connection but still trying to keep it going somehow. even though they know it’s doomed.
the manga portrayed the sexual relationship in people so well i was literally in tears as i was reading, as a person who is sexually abused in the past -so being hypersexual but also in the ace spectrum- people do things to us without even realizing that they’ve done something so crucial. it haunts you for days, weeks, sometimes years: it makes you scared to even feel or want something sexual, feeling disgusted of yourself. but with people loving you, teaching you that it isn’t a sin to feel good, to feel wanted by the person you love and treating you so kindly. it gets somehow easier to let them love you as the way you are and unlearn all the things that haunted you.
they’ve been around each other and seen so much that they started learning to love one another for who they are instead of just loving the idea of a relationship. in the end, i always come back to this thought that love is just this thing. we can always hold on to our imagination but people are who they are, we mess up and we have scars and sorrows as well as other personality traits. as humans we affect each other more than we realize, we can’t just be good and bad. it is far more complicated than that, which makes love so special and sacred. we love each other in spite of that, someone doing you wrong or hurting you can’t erase the love you have for them and still trying to understand them.
saeko and miwa learned to be friends who are there for each other, after seeing that wanting a relationship is not enough for a relationship, they met other people and had other relationships and grew eventually. their relationships with their partners was also real, love being not enough, being two incompatible people as the relationship goes on etc. i liked that it was also portrayed so well.
they were so scared of trying and failing again but they couldn’t resist each other, couldn’t resist the love they both have for each other. saeko has become so mature too !! my girl.
saeko’s relationship with being a lesbian in a country like this, having to deal with not fitting it due to that, it also felt so close to home. i used to hate her in the beginning but i’ve grown to love and understand her.
i just can’t stop talking about this manga ugh help
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July 11, 2025wow. what a fucking ride
i started this thinking it was going to be a fun silly yuri manga, but it genuinely would have changed my life if i read it in early uni. it's the first yuri i've read where two bad bitches are getting down and i'm worried about analyzing their mental state. dumbass young me rlly needed something like that, with raw and realistic representation in a medium i was drawn to, and i'm so happy young queer weebs today have this.
on this last volume specifically (or technically 2 volumes, counting vol 14 in with this bc it isn't on goodreads for some reason)- what an ending. i cried when miwa came out to
this was so so so much better than i thought it would be. tamifull my goat i will be watching your career with great interest!!!
i started this thinking it was going to be a fun silly yuri manga, but it genuinely would have changed my life if i read it in early uni. it's the first yuri i've read where two bad bitches are getting down and i'm worried about analyzing their mental state. dumbass young me rlly needed something like that, with raw and realistic representation in a medium i was drawn to, and i'm so happy young queer weebs today have this.
on this last volume specifically (or technically 2 volumes, counting vol 14 in with this bc it isn't on goodreads for some reason)- what an ending. i cried when miwa came out to
this was so so so much better than i thought it would be. tamifull my goat i will be watching your career with great interest!!!
November 7, 2025
Tamifull
THE TWIST AT THE END!!!!!!!
Does Miwa get to stay friends with Saeko after all?
Are they constantly drawn to one another for positive reasosn later on?
Do they stay together?
Does Saeko ever find a goal they she will want to achieve for herself?
So far, this is definitely one of my top 5 or top 10 favorites out of the series so far.
At this point, there are 13 books but I'm hoping there will be a bit more to the storyline.
I think it was very interesting and detail oriented to make notice of the natural progression and decline of everyting from the hair colors/styles changing as they get popular, like Tamifull mentioned, and when there are moments for different emotins to be shown they are closely portrayed in such thought provoking detail.
THE TWIST AT THE END!!!!!!!
Does Miwa get to stay friends with Saeko after all?
Are they constantly drawn to one another for positive reasosn later on?
Do they stay together?
Does Saeko ever find a goal they she will want to achieve for herself?
So far, this is definitely one of my top 5 or top 10 favorites out of the series so far.
At this point, there are 13 books but I'm hoping there will be a bit more to the storyline.
I think it was very interesting and detail oriented to make notice of the natural progression and decline of everyting from the hair colors/styles changing as they get popular, like Tamifull mentioned, and when there are moments for different emotins to be shown they are closely portrayed in such thought provoking detail.
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December 25, 2025
Okay I was kinda hoping for the best friend ending tbh. It was left a bit vague at the end there, but I wouldnt be surprised if they dated again. At least now I think it might be okay because they've both learned and grown a lot from their other relationships. Their relationship and communication with each other has also gotten much better with them as friends.
Hmm not my favorite series, but im not unhappy with the ending!
Hmm not my favorite series, but im not unhappy with the ending!
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October 13, 2025Incredibly beautiful and nuanced depiction of not only romantic relationships, but human relationships. The art was beautiful not only on a technical level, but in the way that it depicted complex emotions. Honestly much to learn from this illustrator/writer, Tamifull is such a skilled artist holy shit. So so happy to see a female mangaka create something like this hihi
December 2, 2025
Ohh this is so sweet, seeing them come together again in a different way, with all the learning and changing and growing they’ve done but still having that essence of who they were when they first met and the depth of feeling that only comes from sharing all that history. Gah I just love them so much and I’m so not ready for it to end. 😭
May 29, 2025
i finally finished it !! (i read vol 14 also but its not on gr yet for some reason) i rly enjoyed it! some boring parts but overall i rly enjoyed myself and i do kinda wish there was more of them happy at the end but i guess that wasnt the point of the manga
November 5, 2025
My babies…. I love them so much and how far they have come. Really touches very nicely on very real things one can encounter in life and I love that so much.
I’ve been craving more and more mangas that are a bit more adult like this and this one has become my favorite.
I’ve been craving more and more mangas that are a bit more adult like this and this one has become my favorite.
February 6, 2025
In this volume, I particularly appreciated the exploration of trauma and healing and support.
April 6, 2025
what a way to end it
May 4, 2025
Read the whole series but I'm only counting it as one book because 🙏
it was SO good and such a refreshing portrayal of relationships and people that feels very real!! it ends well I promise :D
it was SO good and such a refreshing portrayal of relationships and people that feels very real!! it ends well I promise :D
November 16, 2025
Best Manga I have read everrrr
November 23, 2025
I love this series ❤️
December 22, 2025
It feels like closing chapters; seeing them happy 10 years later brings me a lot of calm and peace.
March 6, 2025
took some time to let this one simmer before i wrote a review, but I overall absolutely adored this series. I love how raw, vulnerable and heartbreaking Miwa and Saeko became. Each member of the cast felt like their own Person which is impressive given the vast personalities there are to offer with this series!
I feel delighted by the ending, it ultimately is exactly what we should want for Miwa and Saeko, but I dont necessarily feel satisfied. Yes, them being together and Saeko letting herself be vulnerable is quintessentially the problem she faces during every twist and turn of their relationship but selfishly I just wish there was more. the first 75% especially with their first breakup I felt was the most uncomfortable yet seen I have ever felt when consuming a breakup media, and them reflecting on their lives together just wrapped everything up way too fast than I wouldve wanted..
Yuria Ace rep /wishful thinking/ but that was a delightful change of pace i loved.
I want to give this 4.75 stars just because I dont usually like endings wrapped together in a bow, but dont get me wrong I definitely put off this ending just to savor this series a little more :,)
Cannot wait for anything else the mangaka releases!!
I feel delighted by the ending, it ultimately is exactly what we should want for Miwa and Saeko, but I dont necessarily feel satisfied. Yes, them being together and Saeko letting herself be vulnerable is quintessentially the problem she faces during every twist and turn of their relationship but selfishly I just wish there was more. the first 75% especially with their first breakup I felt was the most uncomfortable yet seen I have ever felt when consuming a breakup media, and them reflecting on their lives together just wrapped everything up way too fast than I wouldve wanted..
Yuria Ace rep /wishful thinking/ but that was a delightful change of pace i loved.
I want to give this 4.75 stars just because I dont usually like endings wrapped together in a bow, but dont get me wrong I definitely put off this ending just to savor this series a little more :,)
Cannot wait for anything else the mangaka releases!!
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