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All-New, All-Different Avengers (Collected Editions)
Новите, различни Отмъстители: Великолепната седморка
Когато Земята е под заплаха от интергалактически враг, твърде силен за който и да е герой, трябва да се събере изцяло нов екип Отмъстители! Към Капитан Америка, Тор, Вижън и Железния човек се присъединяват младите герои Нова, Мис Марвел и Майлс Моралес в битката да защитят Земята от злия Военачалник на читари! Подгответе се за още една напълно различна приключенска услуга от Най-могъщите герои на Земята!
Събира Новите, различни Отмъстители #0-6 и материали от Отмъстителите (специален брой за Деня на безплатния комикс 2015 г.)
Събира Новите, различни Отмъстители #0-6 и материали от Отмъстителите (специален брой за Деня на безплатния комикс 2015 г.)
168 pages, Hardcover
First published November 11, 2015
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Mark Waid
3,182 books1,272 followersMark Waid (born March 21, 1962 in Hueytown, Alabama) is an American comic book writer. He is best known for his eight-year run as writer of the DC Comics' title The Flash, as well as his scripting of the limited series Kingdom Come and Superman: Birthright, and his work on Marvel Comics' Captain America.
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December 29, 2016
I didn't hate it, but something about this title really bugs the shit out of me. I can't put my finger on it, but it felt oddly off, and I just couldn't quite settle in and enjoy myself. I wish I could come up with a better reason than
FEELS SQUICKY,
but I just can't.
And that's why I think this is just one of those I didn't care for it, but maybe you will sort of things...
The plot's decent. Of course, Waid had to find a reason for this particular group of heroes to come together, and you can't really go wrong with evil Chitauri as a catalyst.
*tips hat*
There's this thing with Vision that I was expecting to be explored over several volumes, but it was tied up at the end of this one. And (in my opinion) that was a bit too soon. It was one of the more interesting things about this story, and it would have been cool to see it continue for a bit longer, build up in intensity, and then explode.
As it was...? Eh. Kinda squeaked out like sad, smelly fart.
In the end, I think it's going to come down to whether or not you like this lineup....together.
Because I like a lot of these characters. Or at least, I like them in their own titles.
I love Miles (he's the highlight of this team for me), and since I haven't seen a solo title for him, he would be the main reason I would keep up with this one.
I really like Sam, as well. Which reminds me, I need to finish out the rest of his Nova stuff...
I have no valid opinion on Sam-as-Cap, because I haven't read his solo stuff yet, but every time he shows up in one of the comics I'm reading, there's something about how nobody takes him seriously and/or OMG he's BLACK. His character deserves better than to be a punchline. Come on, Marvel!
Kamala is cute, but her solo stuff just isn't for me, so having her on board didn't sway me one way or another.
Thorjane? Ugh. I like Jason Arron's story telling, but I'm not a fan of the character. So, having her was a definite negative, but I'm probably the only one who feels that way. I would imagine she will be a huge draw for the majority of the readers.
Tony...um? I think I'm too far behind on what's been happening with him. Is he still evil? Doesn't seem so. He's poorish, he's (apparently) a good guy, and he seems to be still on the wagon. I don't know, he didn't add much to the dynamic (for me) besides being a founding member of the original Avengers.
Vision was an interesting choice, especially with everything happening in his own title. So...yeah. I guess I'd give him a soft thumbs up for making an appearance on this one.
Maybe this will have a broad appeal due to the 3 adults & 3 kids thing?
I wish Marvel the best of luck with their All-New, All-Different Avengers, but unless I hear that the next volume is super Miles-heavy, I don't think I'll be rushing to grab it.
And that's why I think this is just one of those I didn't care for it, but maybe you will sort of things...
The plot's decent. Of course, Waid had to find a reason for this particular group of heroes to come together, and you can't really go wrong with evil Chitauri as a catalyst.
*tips hat*
There's this thing with Vision that I was expecting to be explored over several volumes, but it was tied up at the end of this one. And (in my opinion) that was a bit too soon. It was one of the more interesting things about this story, and it would have been cool to see it continue for a bit longer, build up in intensity, and then explode.
As it was...? Eh. Kinda squeaked out like sad, smelly fart.
In the end, I think it's going to come down to whether or not you like this lineup....together.
Because I like a lot of these characters. Or at least, I like them in their own titles.
I love Miles (he's the highlight of this team for me), and since I haven't seen a solo title for him, he would be the main reason I would keep up with this one.
I really like Sam, as well. Which reminds me, I need to finish out the rest of his Nova stuff...
I have no valid opinion on Sam-as-Cap, because I haven't read his solo stuff yet, but every time he shows up in one of the comics I'm reading, there's something about how nobody takes him seriously and/or OMG he's BLACK. His character deserves better than to be a punchline. Come on, Marvel!
Kamala is cute, but her solo stuff just isn't for me, so having her on board didn't sway me one way or another.
Thorjane? Ugh. I like Jason Arron's story telling, but I'm not a fan of the character. So, having her was a definite negative, but I'm probably the only one who feels that way. I would imagine she will be a huge draw for the majority of the readers.
Tony...um? I think I'm too far behind on what's been happening with him. Is he still evil? Doesn't seem so. He's poorish, he's (apparently) a good guy, and he seems to be still on the wagon. I don't know, he didn't add much to the dynamic (for me) besides being a founding member of the original Avengers.
Vision was an interesting choice, especially with everything happening in his own title. So...yeah. I guess I'd give him a soft thumbs up for making an appearance on this one.
Maybe this will have a broad appeal due to the 3 adults & 3 kids thing?
I wish Marvel the best of luck with their All-New, All-Different Avengers, but unless I hear that the next volume is super Miles-heavy, I don't think I'll be rushing to grab it.
September 29, 2016
I have no idea what kind of demographic the new post-Secret Wars Avengers book is aimed at.
In Stan Lee’s days, they’d just throw anyone together (Cap’s Kooky Quartet? Sure!! Rage and Living Lightning? Make mine Marvel!!) and you were just happy to have them. Here, Marvel is trying to please everyone and in the process pleasing no one. Half the Avengers would still get carded at 7-11 (Nova, Ms. Marvel, Mile Morales aka Spider-Man). Then there’s the replacement Avengers: Captain America (Sam Wilson) and (Lady) Thor. The group is rounded out by The Vision, who has identity problems and the no longer superior (I think) Iron Man. With Tony Stark, it’s hard to tell.
They don’t even call themselves the Avengers anymore. Stark has sold the Avengers headquarters and this group is basically an ad hoc bunch of heroes thrown together because the situation called for it.
The kids need a lot of supervision and don’t get me started on the hormones thing.
The plot is about as cookie cutter as you can get with a villain we've seen about a gazillion times . It plays like your average Saturday morning cartoon. There’s no substance, no bite, it just rolls along.
*sigh* “What’s the matter with kids, today?”
Bottom line: Waid’s capable of so much better. The only thing going for this is the interaction between the various heroes and the humor that springs from it.
In Stan Lee’s days, they’d just throw anyone together (Cap’s Kooky Quartet? Sure!! Rage and Living Lightning? Make mine Marvel!!) and you were just happy to have them. Here, Marvel is trying to please everyone and in the process pleasing no one. Half the Avengers would still get carded at 7-11 (Nova, Ms. Marvel, Mile Morales aka Spider-Man). Then there’s the replacement Avengers: Captain America (Sam Wilson) and (Lady) Thor. The group is rounded out by The Vision, who has identity problems and the no longer superior (I think) Iron Man. With Tony Stark, it’s hard to tell.
They don’t even call themselves the Avengers anymore. Stark has sold the Avengers headquarters and this group is basically an ad hoc bunch of heroes thrown together because the situation called for it.
The kids need a lot of supervision and don’t get me started on the hormones thing.
The plot is about as cookie cutter as you can get with a villain we've seen about a gazillion times . It plays like your average Saturday morning cartoon. There’s no substance, no bite, it just rolls along.
*sigh* “What’s the matter with kids, today?”
Bottom line: Waid’s capable of so much better. The only thing going for this is the interaction between the various heroes and the humor that springs from it.
February 6, 2017
If brevity is the soul of wit, then consider this my cleverest review ever: meh.
September 5, 2016
I feel like Marvel should have put the “All-New, All-Different” label should be in quotation marks followed by a winking emoji because this Avengers book is only superficially new and different. It’s practically the classic line-up with some new faces in place of the originals. The team is Sam Wilson Cap, female Thor, Vision, Iron Man, Ms Marvel, Miles Morales Spidey, and Nova.
The stories are barely worth mentioning because they’re as generic as any Avengers comics - I don’t know when it happened but apparently the Avengers disbanded and Tony Stark lost all his money, then a Chitauri heavy invades, a mysterious powerful villain fucks with the team, blah blah blah. As forgettable as the storylines are, the strength of this book is the way Mark Waid writes the characters.
I liked how we got to see the team assemble rather than just have them appear together fully-formed like in Al Ewing’s godawful New Avengers. Cap and Tony happen to meet and from then on the team comes together in a natural way.
Waid shows up Nick Spencer’s limitations as a writer by actually making Sam Wilson Cap likeable for the first time and he writes Tony perfectly - charmingly but also intelligently. The way Tony thinks about Thor’s language to suss out that her secret identity might not be immortal was very clever.
There’s a subtle possible romance angle set up between Nova and Ms Marvel and a not-so-subtle love story set up with Thor and Cap, both of which are cute. I was really surprised to find Waid writes a very decent Kamala and Thor, as good as anything G. Willow Wilson and Jason Aaron write.
I also liked seeing a friendship blossom between Kamala and Miles who develop their own version of the Fastball Special, and Jarvis returning to work at the new Avengers HQ. These guys are a convincing team who actually seem as if they like each other too.
Adam Kubert and Mahmud Asrar’s art is fine but it’s the usual superhero slick style that’s not gonna excite anyone familiar with superhero comics and the stories are really just there to develop the characters. The Magnificent Seven isn’t the most amazing superhero book you’ll read but it’s not bad for an Avengers comic (which are usually terrible) and Waid’s deep understanding of the characters and consummate skills as a comics writer brings the team to life - worth checking out if you’re a Waid fan.
The stories are barely worth mentioning because they’re as generic as any Avengers comics - I don’t know when it happened but apparently the Avengers disbanded and Tony Stark lost all his money, then a Chitauri heavy invades, a mysterious powerful villain fucks with the team, blah blah blah. As forgettable as the storylines are, the strength of this book is the way Mark Waid writes the characters.
I liked how we got to see the team assemble rather than just have them appear together fully-formed like in Al Ewing’s godawful New Avengers. Cap and Tony happen to meet and from then on the team comes together in a natural way.
Waid shows up Nick Spencer’s limitations as a writer by actually making Sam Wilson Cap likeable for the first time and he writes Tony perfectly - charmingly but also intelligently. The way Tony thinks about Thor’s language to suss out that her secret identity might not be immortal was very clever.
There’s a subtle possible romance angle set up between Nova and Ms Marvel and a not-so-subtle love story set up with Thor and Cap, both of which are cute. I was really surprised to find Waid writes a very decent Kamala and Thor, as good as anything G. Willow Wilson and Jason Aaron write.
I also liked seeing a friendship blossom between Kamala and Miles who develop their own version of the Fastball Special, and Jarvis returning to work at the new Avengers HQ. These guys are a convincing team who actually seem as if they like each other too.
Adam Kubert and Mahmud Asrar’s art is fine but it’s the usual superhero slick style that’s not gonna excite anyone familiar with superhero comics and the stories are really just there to develop the characters. The Magnificent Seven isn’t the most amazing superhero book you’ll read but it’s not bad for an Avengers comic (which are usually terrible) and Waid’s deep understanding of the characters and consummate skills as a comics writer brings the team to life - worth checking out if you’re a Waid fan.
August 30, 2016
Unpopular opinion time again (I swear I'm giving my honest opinions and not just playing devil's advocate). I love this line-up and I love this book.
All I'm hearing about this book is that people don't like it because this line-up 'doesn't feel like the Avengers'. I'll be honest; I don't get this complaint. AT ALL. The Avengers is a team that has changed its roster so many times over the years line-up changes are practically the team's trademark. The line-up changed in ISSUE TWO fertheluvva... I could understand this complaint if it was just being made by newbies who have only started reading the comicbooks because they liked the movies... actually, wait, NO I COULDN'T because even the movie Avengers line-up changed significantly in the space of just two films!
The Avengers = CHANGE. It's practically their defining characteristic. One of the main things I love about the team is its ever-shifting roster. If anything, I'd complain that the roster is too traditional (with Tony Stark, the Vision and Sam Wilson on the squad, who are all longtime Avengers) to live up to the title 'All-New, All-Different'.
I don't want to come across all 'you damned kids get off my lawn' but I've been reading the Avengers comics since 1982 and this new line-up sure as heck feels like the Avengers to me! Oh, well... I'm old enough and ugly enough to know I'm not going to change anybody's mind here, so I'll shut up.
I'll just finish by saying I love this line-up, I loved the story, I loved the character interactions (especially Cap and Thor) and the art was none too shabby either (especially those gorgeous covers by Alex Ross). I await volume two with baited breath.
(Why only four stars, then? Well, I docked a star out of loyalty to Rage, who was cut from the Avengers when they found out he was a minor. He's gonna be SO pissed when he finds out this new squad has not one but THREE minors on the roster... Heh-heh...)
All I'm hearing about this book is that people don't like it because this line-up 'doesn't feel like the Avengers'. I'll be honest; I don't get this complaint. AT ALL. The Avengers is a team that has changed its roster so many times over the years line-up changes are practically the team's trademark. The line-up changed in ISSUE TWO fertheluvva... I could understand this complaint if it was just being made by newbies who have only started reading the comicbooks because they liked the movies... actually, wait, NO I COULDN'T because even the movie Avengers line-up changed significantly in the space of just two films!
The Avengers = CHANGE. It's practically their defining characteristic. One of the main things I love about the team is its ever-shifting roster. If anything, I'd complain that the roster is too traditional (with Tony Stark, the Vision and Sam Wilson on the squad, who are all longtime Avengers) to live up to the title 'All-New, All-Different'.
I don't want to come across all 'you damned kids get off my lawn' but I've been reading the Avengers comics since 1982 and this new line-up sure as heck feels like the Avengers to me! Oh, well... I'm old enough and ugly enough to know I'm not going to change anybody's mind here, so I'll shut up.
I'll just finish by saying I love this line-up, I loved the story, I loved the character interactions (especially Cap and Thor) and the art was none too shabby either (especially those gorgeous covers by Alex Ross). I await volume two with baited breath.
(Why only four stars, then? Well, I docked a star out of loyalty to Rage, who was cut from the Avengers when they found out he was a minor. He's gonna be SO pissed when he finds out this new squad has not one but THREE minors on the roster... Heh-heh...)
March 11, 2016
As a new threat appears on the Earth, a new team of Avengers is formed to face it.
This volume is an origin story of the All-New All-Different Avengers along with some minor fights.
I really thought I would like this Avengers lineup. As soon as I saw the lineup I thought, I like Miles Morales, Iron Man, and Ms. Marvel so this should be awesome. I have to say I was disappointed. I found out I didn't like Ms. Marvel as much as I thought I did. Who would have thought that I wouldn't relate that much with a teenage Muslim girl from Jersey City?
I still like Iron Man and Miles Morales the new Spider-Man, but that's just two characters on a larger team. I'm largely indifferent about Falcon as Captain America, Lady Thor, Vision, Nova, and Kamala Khan as Ms. Marvel. It's hard for everyone to get enough page time with such a large lineup and being apathetic about the majority of the team led to me not being that excited about this volume.
My other complaint is the Avengers are only viable when facing incredibly difficult odds. Anything else should be overkill, but for some reason this particularly capable group of crime fighters aren't nearly as competent as a group. Each of these characters headlines their own comic, they should easily be able to throwdown against any normal villain.
Despite the incredible film success for the Avengers, I have rarely found Avenger comics that hold my attention and unfortunately the All-New All-Different Avengers are no exception.
This volume is an origin story of the All-New All-Different Avengers along with some minor fights.
I really thought I would like this Avengers lineup. As soon as I saw the lineup I thought, I like Miles Morales, Iron Man, and Ms. Marvel so this should be awesome. I have to say I was disappointed. I found out I didn't like Ms. Marvel as much as I thought I did. Who would have thought that I wouldn't relate that much with a teenage Muslim girl from Jersey City?
I still like Iron Man and Miles Morales the new Spider-Man, but that's just two characters on a larger team. I'm largely indifferent about Falcon as Captain America, Lady Thor, Vision, Nova, and Kamala Khan as Ms. Marvel. It's hard for everyone to get enough page time with such a large lineup and being apathetic about the majority of the team led to me not being that excited about this volume.
My other complaint is the Avengers are only viable when facing incredibly difficult odds. Anything else should be overkill, but for some reason this particularly capable group of crime fighters aren't nearly as competent as a group. Each of these characters headlines their own comic, they should easily be able to throwdown against any normal villain.
Despite the incredible film success for the Avengers, I have rarely found Avenger comics that hold my attention and unfortunately the All-New All-Different Avengers are no exception.
January 11, 2018
3.5* although this took me a little while to get into, I ended up really enjoying this. I found myself a little lost at times, due to not having read the comics explaining the events leading up to this story but once I found my feet, it was a really fun read. Ms Marvel is always a winner in my eyes, so this was no different but I'm totally new to Nova as a character and he's such a cutie?! I'm also even more excited to pick up Miles Morales' comics, after meeting his character in this. I'm looking forward to continuing with this run and I'm hoping for some more Avengers/X-Men shade because that somehow never gets boring...
February 4, 2021
All-New, All-Different Disney's Avengers, meh.
April 22, 2019
How strange? I lost my review of this.
Anyway, this is the third or 4th time I've read this book. I truly loved it because it's back to the fun, light hearted spirit of past Avengers books. It's been a long time since we've had an Avengers book where the team was a team and there wasn't a bunch of needless infighting. Not even mentioning the disappointment that is Aaron's current run, Hickman's was a bunch of infighting, Bendis' post CW run was a lot of infighting. The last time we had a real Avengers team book was pre Civil War.
I'm still majorly bummed that this series ended when it did. There was room to do something great with this team of teenage heroes learning how to work together. Sort of a training type of thing where they all learned lessons over a series of arcs.
But Marvel ended it when it barely had enough issues for 3 volumes (And the last one was ruined by CW II).
Anyway, this is the third or 4th time I've read this book. I truly loved it because it's back to the fun, light hearted spirit of past Avengers books. It's been a long time since we've had an Avengers book where the team was a team and there wasn't a bunch of needless infighting. Not even mentioning the disappointment that is Aaron's current run, Hickman's was a bunch of infighting, Bendis' post CW run was a lot of infighting. The last time we had a real Avengers team book was pre Civil War.
I'm still majorly bummed that this series ended when it did. There was room to do something great with this team of teenage heroes learning how to work together. Sort of a training type of thing where they all learned lessons over a series of arcs.
But Marvel ended it when it barely had enough issues for 3 volumes (And the last one was ruined by CW II).
July 16, 2016
This book didn't make me quite as happy as New Avengers, but I'm still pretty pleased. It has Kamala and Miles, of course I'm happy! Most of the other characters I at least like, though I'm sort of meh about Vision. Of the two books, I do think New Avengers had the better opening story and cast, but I still loved what I read here, and I'm onboard for more in this series.
December 5, 2024
Историята се ядваше и течеше горе-долу праволинейно, а основните персонажи (без да броим лошковците) бяха 7, не 70, както в последните "Хикманови" броеве. Обаче никак, ама никак не ми допада подмяната на героите, наложена от модерните тенденции, вресливи, насилени и заиграващи се с полово-расовите квоти.
Новият Тор е жена (Джейн Фостър), Новият Спайдър-мен (Майк Моралес) е наполовина латино, наполовина афроамериканец (учудващо не са му добавили и азиатски корени, та да стане още по-политкоректно...), новият Капитан Америка (Сам Уилсън, екс "Сокола"), също е афроамериканец... Изобщо, ситуацията замяза на БГ-парламент: гласуваш за Киро и Асен, получаваш сглобка с Бойко...
Новият Тор е жена (Джейн Фостър), Новият Спайдър-мен (Майк Моралес) е наполовина латино, наполовина афроамериканец (учудващо не са му добавили и азиатски корени, та да стане още по-политкоректно...), новият Капитан Америка (Сам Уилсън, екс "Сокола"), също е афроамериканец... Изобщо, ситуацията замяза на БГ-парламент: гласуваш за Киро и Асен, получаваш сглобка с Бойко...
August 15, 2016
Marvel's traditional dominance of the US direct sales market has been so total that a month or two off the top spot is enough to get some people hunting for a crisis. The scapegoat this go-round seems to be 'diversity' - the idea that the rather more multicultural cast Marvel boasts in 2016 is commercially disastrous 'pandering'. I suspect the truth is a bit more complicated - the real diversity has been in Marvel's strategy. Books aimed squarely at new readers and less well-served audiences certainly exist - some of them do well, some don't. But they've been one strand in a soup of event books, flagship titles, careful revivals of some long-standing IPs and see-what-sticks revivals of others, all underwritten by the enormous sales of the publisher's Star Wars books, which have created commercial room to experiment.
Looked at from this perspective, Marvel's biggest problem is more obvious. Before Star Wars, the foundation for its sales dominance were huge team franchises, which could sustain multiple titles at a decent sales level: the X-Men in the 90s, the Avengers in the 00s, and in the 10s Guardians Of The Galaxy looked to be shaping up for a similar role. All these tentpole titles are faltering - the main books are at a low ebb and they can't sustain constellations of backup titles in the way they once did. This brand over-stretch is, ironically, what comment box warriors complained about before the likes of Moon Girl and Hellcat came along. A spavined line of X-Books does Marvel far more harm than a low-selling Patsy Walker comic, after all.
Mark Waid and Mahmud Asrar's All-New, All-Different Avengers is at the centre of both justified and unjustified complaints. It's a showcase for the 'diverse' new versions of Marvel icons - Jane Foster Thor, Sam Wilson Cap, Miles Morales Spider-Man, Kamala Khan Ms Marvel - and it's the latest version of the company's highest-profile title. It's also attracted disappointing reviews. This at least is easy enough to explain - it's a disappointing book. But it's disappointing more because it abandons its promise of "All-New, All-Different", rather than keeping it.
The Avengers for the last several years has been tied to the baroque, high-concept Jonathan Hickman story that led into Secret Wars. For the several before that it was in the care of Brian Bendis, whose meandering, conversation-led stories were equally idiosyncratic. It's been over a decade since the main Avengers book had the job of telling straightforward yarns about a team of super-folk. But in the memories of fandom this is exactly what they should be doing - the Kurt Busiek and Roger Stern Avengers runs, comforting meat-and-potatoes storytelling, are the most vocally beloved.
Mark Waid has good form in putting a modern spin on essentially conservative stories. His recent Daredevil run was thoroughly enjoyable, but it mostly stood out because it was so different in context - his optimistic and self-confident Matt Murdock a massive shift in tone. The actual stories were neatly plotted and suspenseful but at their heart traditional superhero plots and themes, well executed. But Daredevil is just one guy, and it's harder to write clever, neat plots with a whole team of moving pieces to consider. The approach falters, and you're left looking at a pot-pourri of characters going through the motions of entirely generic Marvel stories. The overarching plot here - mistrust among the team! Minor villains leading to an old Avengers foe! - could have been a 2- or 3-parter from any 70s or 80s run. It's no wonder Ms Marvel, Miles and the rest don't shine in this context: they are diverse young talents finally given the keys to the executive washroom only to find that it's full of old men talking about golf.
Separated from the supporting casts and relationships that give their solo titles life, the All-New Avengers devolve into costumes and power sets, put through very old paces. This was always the problem with the Avengers, which was often a very tedious comic in its day, even its supposed heyday. Its solution was featuring characters you really couldn't find elsewhere: not so easy at today's Marvel. For now, this comic is torn between the relatively new and the not different at all, and the fit is a very awkward one.
Looked at from this perspective, Marvel's biggest problem is more obvious. Before Star Wars, the foundation for its sales dominance were huge team franchises, which could sustain multiple titles at a decent sales level: the X-Men in the 90s, the Avengers in the 00s, and in the 10s Guardians Of The Galaxy looked to be shaping up for a similar role. All these tentpole titles are faltering - the main books are at a low ebb and they can't sustain constellations of backup titles in the way they once did. This brand over-stretch is, ironically, what comment box warriors complained about before the likes of Moon Girl and Hellcat came along. A spavined line of X-Books does Marvel far more harm than a low-selling Patsy Walker comic, after all.
Mark Waid and Mahmud Asrar's All-New, All-Different Avengers is at the centre of both justified and unjustified complaints. It's a showcase for the 'diverse' new versions of Marvel icons - Jane Foster Thor, Sam Wilson Cap, Miles Morales Spider-Man, Kamala Khan Ms Marvel - and it's the latest version of the company's highest-profile title. It's also attracted disappointing reviews. This at least is easy enough to explain - it's a disappointing book. But it's disappointing more because it abandons its promise of "All-New, All-Different", rather than keeping it.
The Avengers for the last several years has been tied to the baroque, high-concept Jonathan Hickman story that led into Secret Wars. For the several before that it was in the care of Brian Bendis, whose meandering, conversation-led stories were equally idiosyncratic. It's been over a decade since the main Avengers book had the job of telling straightforward yarns about a team of super-folk. But in the memories of fandom this is exactly what they should be doing - the Kurt Busiek and Roger Stern Avengers runs, comforting meat-and-potatoes storytelling, are the most vocally beloved.
Mark Waid has good form in putting a modern spin on essentially conservative stories. His recent Daredevil run was thoroughly enjoyable, but it mostly stood out because it was so different in context - his optimistic and self-confident Matt Murdock a massive shift in tone. The actual stories were neatly plotted and suspenseful but at their heart traditional superhero plots and themes, well executed. But Daredevil is just one guy, and it's harder to write clever, neat plots with a whole team of moving pieces to consider. The approach falters, and you're left looking at a pot-pourri of characters going through the motions of entirely generic Marvel stories. The overarching plot here - mistrust among the team! Minor villains leading to an old Avengers foe! - could have been a 2- or 3-parter from any 70s or 80s run. It's no wonder Ms Marvel, Miles and the rest don't shine in this context: they are diverse young talents finally given the keys to the executive washroom only to find that it's full of old men talking about golf.
Separated from the supporting casts and relationships that give their solo titles life, the All-New Avengers devolve into costumes and power sets, put through very old paces. This was always the problem with the Avengers, which was often a very tedious comic in its day, even its supposed heyday. Its solution was featuring characters you really couldn't find elsewhere: not so easy at today's Marvel. For now, this comic is torn between the relatively new and the not different at all, and the fit is a very awkward one.
October 5, 2023
Pretty middle of the road. I haven't read Secret Wars but apparently that ended with no Avengers and Tony Stark bankrupt. After selling Avengers Tower to earn some money, a strange being shows up that involves the newest Nova. Since Stark and Sam Wilson, the current Captain America are in the area, they swoop in, only to find Miles Morales and Ms Marvel already on the scene. Vision also comes into the picture, although something odd is going on with him. Then Valkyrie/Thor Jane Foster also shows up, which means we have a team of older heroes along with some younger ones.
Of course, there are some generational conflicts that occur, and they seem a bit silly, to be honest. Captain America is particularly quick to jump the gun on a couple of occasions, along with Iron Man. Needless drama.
The big bad is not too surprising, but a classic Avengers villain that works fairly well.
Art is pretty good overall and those Alex Ross covers are on fire.
Of course, there are some generational conflicts that occur, and they seem a bit silly, to be honest. Captain America is particularly quick to jump the gun on a couple of occasions, along with Iron Man. Needless drama.
The big bad is not too surprising, but a classic Avengers villain that works fairly well.
Art is pretty good overall and those Alex Ross covers are on fire.
October 22, 2016
The Avengers have a new team after secret wars and I cant help but think its all for the sake of new readers. Nothing wrong with the team it just feels like marvel is saying " lets try and rope up some new fans" I usually like Waid but I feel like anyone could of written this book. So after secret wars the Avengers are done but really there not. Tony is the only one sticking around but he is broke (I actually like this direction for him) So we now have Vision, (new) Thor, (miles) Spider-man, Nova, (Sam) Cap, and Ms. Marvel. The team has promise but its also lots of fresh kids which Waid portraits pretty well. They find Warbringer and dish out some good action but Kang is the main attraction. Vision gets a good story line going and Cap and Thor have a little fling. The art is standard, not bad but also not amazing. Overall I would read vol. 2 but it doesn't leave me wanting more really.
August 27, 2023
Mark Waid is really good at pacing a story, even a fairly generic one, as here. I'd probably even have given this one 4 stars, were the artwork not so terrible. The best thing going for this basic Marvel graphic novel is the inclusion of the beautiful Alex Ross covers.
March 5, 2025
Мисля, че е крайно време да се въведе специален термин за малоумните сюжети на десетките инкарнации на групата от супер-герои, наречена "Отмъстителите" или производно на него. Предлагам този термин да бъде "ОмнъсШИТелите" и ще го използвам оттук-нататък.
Та този брой на "ОмъсШИТелите" е доволно инфантилен - арогантни тийнейджъри се заяждат с благите "стари пушки", които търпят, търпят, пък избухнат и им се накарат/ги изгонят.
Не, мерси!
Та този брой на "ОмъсШИТелите" е доволно инфантилен - арогантни тийнейджъри се заяждат с благите "стари пушки", които търпят, търпят, пък избухнат и им се накарат/ги изгонят.
Не, мерси!
April 30, 2021
Just another team, full of fan-favorites, that cannot team-up.
September 20, 2016
I don't know why, but I thought this would be better, perhaps my general belief that Waid's writing is usually solid. Not necessarily fantastic, but at least consistent. First, I'm old school and these aren't my Avengers and I'm very averse to duplicates (Spider-Man) and replacement/fill-ins (Cap/Falcon, She-Thor, Kid Nova). I also can't stand RDJ Iron Man.
Second, there's also a forced (and discussed) difference in ages between the three young members and the other older members. It really felt like it was rammed in there just to create the drama (and apparently laying the seeds for a future series). There's the whole "wide-eyed, ooh I can't believe I'm standing next to Captain America" and "Why don't they let us sit at the big table?" kind of thing, which maybe some readers are into that but I'm way too old to be reading that.
The story arc with the main villain is confusing as well. My lack of interest in the characters kept me from really paying attention, and there's some time travel stuff that I didn't quite follow. Not sure if that was lack of interest or lack of explanation.
Overall: ho hum.
Second, there's also a forced (and discussed) difference in ages between the three young members and the other older members. It really felt like it was rammed in there just to create the drama (and apparently laying the seeds for a future series). There's the whole "wide-eyed, ooh I can't believe I'm standing next to Captain America" and "Why don't they let us sit at the big table?" kind of thing, which maybe some readers are into that but I'm way too old to be reading that.
The story arc with the main villain is confusing as well. My lack of interest in the characters kept me from really paying attention, and there's some time travel stuff that I didn't quite follow. Not sure if that was lack of interest or lack of explanation.
Overall: ho hum.
October 28, 2017
Well, that was hugely disappointing. In the newly reconstructed post-Secret Wars Marvel Universe the Avengers are no longer, but a group of super-powered kids are about to help shape a new team. Alongside them are Sam Wilson: Captain America, the new Jane Foster Thor, and Tony Stark’s Iron Man. Together they fight a poorly defined threat in an ultra-thin plot inexplicably stretched across six issues.
Marvel is clearly trying to draw in a much younger audience with this more kid-friendly rendition of The Avengers. After a strongly plotted, intellectual, and always interesting cosmic Avengers (and New Avengers) from Jonathan Hickman, this new run from Mark Waid is an enormous step down. It’s silly at its worst, and dull at its best, chock full of high school-like teen drama in between your very basic superheroics.
Although I have all the issues in this particular volume’s run, thanks to a ComiXology sale, I don’t think I’ll bother reading them. I had a hard enough time stomaching these six issues.
Marvel is clearly trying to draw in a much younger audience with this more kid-friendly rendition of The Avengers. After a strongly plotted, intellectual, and always interesting cosmic Avengers (and New Avengers) from Jonathan Hickman, this new run from Mark Waid is an enormous step down. It’s silly at its worst, and dull at its best, chock full of high school-like teen drama in between your very basic superheroics.
Although I have all the issues in this particular volume’s run, thanks to a ComiXology sale, I don’t think I’ll bother reading them. I had a hard enough time stomaching these six issues.
April 14, 2016
"Guys-who-say-are-not-the-Avengers, assemble!"
Some good idea and characters interaction, but not like at all the new lineup and from Waid I was waiting just for something more.
Alex Ross' covers are 100% pure awesomess!
But for Carnage and Wolverine, the post Secret Wars all new Marvel titles I've read until now are a real disappointment.
Some good idea and characters interaction, but not like at all the new lineup and from Waid I was waiting just for something more.
Alex Ross' covers are 100% pure awesomess!
But for Carnage and Wolverine, the post Secret Wars all new Marvel titles I've read until now are a real disappointment.
October 15, 2016
Easy to read, charming, fun, but very very cliche is the best way to describe the first volume of Avengers.
Basically we get a new cast to be in Avengers, such as Nova, Ms. Marvel, Miles and more. The chats between our heroes is both light and fun. Some funny moments, some heartfelt, and overall good chemistry between them all. Also the entire volume has solid art.
On flip side the story itself, or plot, is very very basic. Evil bad's coming to earth, avengers gather, and boom. We win. Then at the end the big bad you learn isn't really as bad as they say and a even BIGGER bad is coming. Sounds familiar? Yeah...welcome to every superhero story ever.
Still, it's fun, easy read, good for introduction to new readers. Just don't expect anything magical (excluding Thor) and you'll be satisfied.
Basically we get a new cast to be in Avengers, such as Nova, Ms. Marvel, Miles and more. The chats between our heroes is both light and fun. Some funny moments, some heartfelt, and overall good chemistry between them all. Also the entire volume has solid art.
On flip side the story itself, or plot, is very very basic. Evil bad's coming to earth, avengers gather, and boom. We win. Then at the end the big bad you learn isn't really as bad as they say and a even BIGGER bad is coming. Sounds familiar? Yeah...welcome to every superhero story ever.
Still, it's fun, easy read, good for introduction to new readers. Just don't expect anything magical (excluding Thor) and you'll be satisfied.
June 28, 2016
The current team meets by chance and decides to take over the Avengers name. The opening story was kind of weak. Adam Kubert's art gets weaker every time I see it, especially now that there's no inker on this book. I'm fine with the 3 teen super-heroes on the team, it's the writing for the 3 long term Avengers that I found to be just OK. There's very little mentoring and the subplots so far were a bit hokey. I do think the book got better with the second arc. Mahmud Asrar's art is pretty snappy and the characterization got better. I guess overall I just expected more from Mark Waid. I typically love his work and this book felt a little shoe-horned together.
August 1, 2016
Given that this is only my second superhero graphic novel I may not be the best judge of how this compares in the grand scheme of things, but I still found it to be really enjoyable.
There were a couple parts that I found to be a bit confusing - then again that could be due to my own lack of Marvel universe knowledge.
The story was good and there were some twists I definitely did not see coming. I liked some of the out of costume moments between the Avengers too...they were nice.
I'm definitely glad I read it because it was fun and definitely what I needed :)
There were a couple parts that I found to be a bit confusing - then again that could be due to my own lack of Marvel universe knowledge.
The story was good and there were some twists I definitely did not see coming. I liked some of the out of costume moments between the Avengers too...they were nice.
I'm definitely glad I read it because it was fun and definitely what I needed :)
September 14, 2016
Mark Waid is one of my favorite comics writers, so I'm going to give him some space here. His good-natured sense of humor and "back to basics" storytelling approach makes him the perfect writer to re-launch a flagship book like Avengers, but the six issues that comprise this volume manage to do a lot of table-setting for future plotlines and only a little of the epic scale bravado we expect from a title like this. The result is uneven, and if this were any other writer I would probably not be too interested in picking it up again.
April 1, 2017
AU where someone who has actually talked to real life teenagers writes a book with teenagers
July 6, 2020
I liked this, but I didn’t love it. Something was missing, and I’m not sure what.
My favorite thing was the Nova/Ms Marvel dynamic. The story was pretty by-the-numbers Avengers shit. Jane Thor was also a pretty awesome component.
My biggest beef with this post Secret Wars stuff is the lack of explanation tying it to Secret Wars.
Some major shit happened, and now we don’t talk about it ever? Kinda weird.
Anyway, I’m excited to read more and I hope it gets better.
My favorite thing was the Nova/Ms Marvel dynamic. The story was pretty by-the-numbers Avengers shit. Jane Thor was also a pretty awesome component.
My biggest beef with this post Secret Wars stuff is the lack of explanation tying it to Secret Wars.
Some major shit happened, and now we don’t talk about it ever? Kinda weird.
Anyway, I’m excited to read more and I hope it gets better.
September 26, 2016
Much in the same way the original Avengers team was created, seven heroes come together on a day unlike any other to combat a Chitauri warrior who is seeking out three pieces of a dangerous artifact. Iron Man (aka a broke Tony Stark), Vision, Captain America (aka Sam Wilson), Thor (aka Jane Foster), Spider-Man (aka Miles Morales), Nova (aka Sam Alexander), and Ms. Marvel (aka Kamala Khan) form a tenuous reformation of the storied team, bantering and conflicting as much among themselves as with the threats they encounter.
It's a very traditional and lightly-toned volume with a lot of standard superhero tropes, familiar plot beats, and the same old heroes with some different faces filling the roles, but it was a lot of fun seeing this new mix of characters interact and find ways to work together effectively. Ms. Marvel and Nova's relatable teenage misunderstandings and Cap and Thor's intriguing interactions were the highlights. Stark's moneylessness was really the only unexplained element, though I suspect it had something to do with his morality flip-flop due to the AXIS event. A final villain, , caps off a solid start, though those readers who are used to Hickman's epic ideas and political conflicts might be thrown by this ad-hoc team and simplified tale that feels like a satisfying throwback.
It's a very traditional and lightly-toned volume with a lot of standard superhero tropes, familiar plot beats, and the same old heroes with some different faces filling the roles, but it was a lot of fun seeing this new mix of characters interact and find ways to work together effectively. Ms. Marvel and Nova's relatable teenage misunderstandings and Cap and Thor's intriguing interactions were the highlights. Stark's moneylessness was really the only unexplained element, though I suspect it had something to do with his morality flip-flop due to the AXIS event. A final villain, , caps off a solid start, though those readers who are used to Hickman's epic ideas and political conflicts might be thrown by this ad-hoc team and simplified tale that feels like a satisfying throwback.
June 25, 2017
As organic a way of collecting random Avengers as I've seen in quite a while. Why not eh? No reason the team must be deliberately chosen. Not like we always need an arrogant puppetmaster at the helm - that doesn't seem any less likely to lead to rampant property destruction at least.
Hell, I can't figure out how to successfully hire one good employee - how's anyone supposed to know how to choose among the insane lineup of impulse control issues that run around in spandex?
This was a good book, solid tale of rag-tag Avengers team who are together by necessity more than choice or design, and still heroing up for the sake of keeping assholes like from fucking up our time and space too much.
Hell, I can't figure out how to successfully hire one good employee - how's anyone supposed to know how to choose among the insane lineup of impulse control issues that run around in spandex?
This was a good book, solid tale of rag-tag Avengers team who are together by necessity more than choice or design, and still heroing up for the sake of keeping assholes like from fucking up our time and space too much.
September 27, 2016
This is fun ~
yet the whole
"Let's put teenagers on the team, and then we will treat them like teenagers, but because they are teenagers, they are not gonna listen to us, but they will prove themselves in the end even though they didn't listen!" thing is a little tired, IMO.
yet the whole
"Let's put teenagers on the team, and then we will treat them like teenagers, but because they are teenagers, they are not gonna listen to us, but they will prove themselves in the end even though they didn't listen!" thing is a little tired, IMO.
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