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Eleanor Pilcher is electric in her witty, funny, and heartfelt women’s fiction debut, following polar opposite best friends Beth and Serena. When demisexual Beth decides she’s done with being a virgin and enlists Serena’s help, her new personal journey just might be the thing to end their friendship for good.

Serena and Beth are best friends who couldn’t be more different—Beth is an avowed demisexual, who lacks confidence in her career and in her chances at a happy relationship due to her sexual orientation. Serena is a free spirit who oozes with confidence, both in her job and her sexual proclivities. And yet, since the moment they met, they knew they were platonic soulmates.

So, when Beth decides that she officially wants to take charge of her sex life and explore the things that scare her the most, Serena is more than happy to help. Speed-dating, sex therapy, tantra, a perplexed but ultimately very nice escort—it’s all on Beth’s Sexual Odyssey List.

But when Beth’s crush from her old job comes back and Serena’s favorite friend-with-benefits pushes for more than just sex, it throws their whole world into a tailspin. And suddenly, this sexual odyssey is more than a fun gag. It’ll set them down a course that’ll make them so much closer—or end their friendship for good.

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First published April 15, 2025

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865 reviews164 followers
December 21, 2025
a favorite read of 2025🩵

firstly, thank you to the publisher for an alc!

wowowow i’m kicking myself for waiting this long to listen to my alc — seems to be a common occurrence with myself…

that’s what she said was a beautiful contemporary novel about two best friends, serena and beth, who are struggling with their romantic relationships and sexualities.

serena has commitment issues due to her parents’ divorce and abandonment of her during her formative years that ruins potential healthy romantic relationships in fear of being vulnerable, and beth is a 28year old demisexual virgin that is tired of being pitied and misunderstood for her need of establishing a trusting relationship before she feels comfortable having sex.

i absolutely loved both of our fmcs personal and social growth, as well as the deepening of their friendship/sisterhood.

i also loved the dual narration!!
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135 reviews45 followers
May 22, 2025
absolutely devoured this one. a beautiful book on sexuality and friendship that read like Sex in The City meets FRIENDS in London, truthfully such a fun book for my girlies in there 20s who have no fucking clue what’s going on in life but is just going with the messy ass flow of it!! also related to Beth on so many levels. i actually cried laughing at a few scenes so she was a goodie✨🍸🪩👠
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209 reviews
June 9, 2025
audiobook rating: ••••.5
book rating: •••.5

‘if anyone were to look at us together in that moment, they would think we were sisters. and they would be right.’

as usual, i'm entertained by ell potter's narration (and as what i've said at the pre-review part, potter became my one of my favorite narrators when i first listen to emily wilde series [first two books only, though i haven't listened to the third one]). but robyn holdaway however, i was impressed at her narration. her accent is so addicted to hear (especially delphi's since it's one of my fave voices i've heard).

for the book content, it has a mix of comedy and drama. i appreciate the friendship between beth and serena. but i'm slightly disappointed at serena's actions at the last 50%. all in all, i got laughed too hard because of their humor

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pre-read/listen:

1st book for pride month let's go!

also, i'm shocked that ell potter is one of the narrators in this audiobook (and currently my fave) so i'm excited to hear her again 🤭

thank you to netgalley & harperaudio adult for providing me with an alc of this audiobook in exchange for an honest review
Profile Image for Mae ✨.
70 reviews8 followers
April 15, 2025
4.25 stars || Witty, Female Friendship, and Bingeable

I picked this book up because it was sending me Sex in the City vibes and proceeded to read it in an evening because it was like binging the show but with an expanded, more diverse cast! I really enjoyed the ensemble that Pilcher brought to the table in That’s What She Said! We follow two best friends- Beth and Serena, on Beth’s journey of sexual discovery, or as our characters would say- a sexual odessey! The plot was incredibly unique and witty! I haven’t read a book that puts demisexuality in the spotlight and I found it insightful and educational, while still interweaving a level of wit and humour that was imperative to the book! The dual pov’s helped both her characters shine, but also highlight their weaknesses. I think this was incredibly important and provoked a lot of different emotions in me as I read. I loved Serena, then I didn’t, then I loved her again, all because I got to see her inner monologue while also reading Beth’s point of view. There were also some very funny points in the novel- I was laughing out loud at the AirPod scene, iykyk. Pilcher found the perfect balance between humor, female friendship, sexuality, and confronting oneself in this fiction debut!
Thank you Harper Collins and Avon for sending a finished copy my way! All thoughts are my own.
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1,103 reviews141 followers
May 15, 2025
This book was not for me. I found the narrative and plot line to be extremely cringey and borderline embarrassing. I was excited to read a book about a demisexual but the highly sexual content matter made me pretty uncomfortable.

One bright spot was the narrator/ the performance was excellent. Very well acted.

Thank you to NetGalley and Harper Audio for the ALC in exchange for an honest review.
Profile Image for Bethanie Free.
46 reviews1 follower
December 21, 2024
Thank you to Eleanor Pilcher, NetGalley, and Harper Collin’s for the ARC read of this book, all opinions are my own.

That’s What She Said follows two women as they flourish out of the early twenties lifestyle into a more adult life. Beth and Serena are two best friends who met in college and live together in London. I feel like their relationship is very true to a natural relationship progression and shows the good and the bad of adapting into a more people conscious way of living, I actually see a lot of the same growth and development between them that I saw between my best friend and I as we grew and that very much helped me connect with the book.

I will say this book has probably touched on relationships and their development more honestly and naturally than any other book I have read. You get to see the MCs struggle with conflict resolution, communication breakdowns, and selfish thoughts preventing them from being the best person they could be for their best friend. It felt natural and like a situation you would see in every day life.

The storyline was good. I enjoyed watching how two people who view intimacy differently grew and learned through the book. The authors touches on everything you could think would happen in this type of relationship, also showing the right way and wrong way to go about it.

As someone who identifies on the asexuality spectrum it is nice to feel seen and represented in a book. It felt thoroughly explained and was never used as the butt of a joke or given any negative connotation. This includes when some a fight happens and not nice things are said, but spoilers, darling.

All in all I loved the basics of the book, the four stars come in where it was just not the type of writing style I enjoy. I like a little more action and excitement but this was an absolutely lovely coming of age novel but with very little excitement.
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1,551 reviews52 followers
April 7, 2025
Book Review 📖🍷👠
thank you so much partner @avonbooks for the gifted copies!

That's What She Said
by Eleanor Pilcher

About the book 👇🏽

Serena and Beth are best friends who couldn’t be more different—Beth is an avowed demisexual, who lacks confidence in her career and in her chances at a happy relationship due to her sexual orientation. Serena is a free spirit who oozes with confidence, both in her job and her sexual proclivities. And yet, since the moment they met, they knew they were platonic soulmates.

So, when Beth decides that she officially wants to take charge of her sex life and explore the things that scare her the most, Serena is more than happy to help.

But when Beth’s crush from her old job comes back and Serena’s favorite friend-with-benefits pushes for more than just sex, it throws their whole world into a tailspin. And suddenly, this sexual odyssey is more than a fun gag. It’ll set them down a course that’ll make them so much closer—or end their friendship for good.

✨ My thoughts:

This was a fast read! I can honestly say I have never read anything like this and it was refreshing. I really love reading about people finding themselves and growing in general and that’s what I found in this story. Both Beth and Serena did growing of their own in different ways, and expectedly hit some bumps along the way. I’m not sure if I can call this a coming of age story but that’s what it felt like to me and I am happy it wrapped up the way it did. If you’re looking for a fast paced story where the main characters show growth and progression, you’ll want to give this unique book a read, I think you’d enjoy it! That’s What She Said hits shelves tomorrow 4/8/25!!

Happy reading 📖 🍷👠✨
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457 reviews7 followers
April 25, 2025
4.5⭐️ - If you ever need a sense of my type of humor READ THIS. I really loved it. The only thing that keeps me from giving it a full five stars is some of what the therapist said (which maybe was done to push the story along but that doesn’t make it feel better) really pissed me off.

Other than that, I loved the main characters and their growth and their relationships with each other and everyone else. A bad parent storyline will always hit home for me and it’s especially nice when I’m reminded that it could be worse… although in this case the shitty parents give her money instead of love and that sounds nice. 😂
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505 reviews9 followers
May 18, 2025
This is deeply rooted in cringe & it honestly works?!!

Came for the demisexuality rep, stayed bc these girls are hot messes & I couldn’t look away! This is cheesy, over the top, & incredibly witty.

If you read this, go into it with an open mind & know that it is a comedy of errors!! It’s suppose to be outrageous & funny.

That’s What She Said, is a riot & a delight of a time!

Thank you Harper Audio & NetGalley for the ALC in exchange for my honest review.
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770 reviews17 followers
July 13, 2025
i quite enjoyed this one!! almost didn’t read it cuz it has quite a low goodreads rating but i’m glad i did.
i think the beginning starts out a little too much and i wasn’t quite laughing at the humor but once it started to get deeper (which was maybe at the 40% mark?), i really really liked it. super interesting delve into demisexuality but also just sexuality/intimacy/relationship in general. i liked that the story really centered friendship and the plot line about codependency felt soooo real (tho i’d like to say i’m not codependent w anyone rn!) cute romances too, i liked both love interests. lots of great supporting characters. also just some rlly iconic scenes: the airpod thing was very funny and i loved the tantra workshop, genuinely so cool. the stuff about therapy was great too and just overall i liked the ethics/message this book was giving out!
anyways, a good time!! hopefully this will be the start of me reading ebooks again (by that i mean i haven’t read one since last thursday lmao)
Profile Image for Alana.
Author 8 books39 followers
September 1, 2024
eARC

2000s chick lit is back! And this time, it's in LGBTQIA+ form!

I kid, I kid. This is a book about two best friends, Beth (demisexual virgin) and Serena (she puts the "sex" in bisexual). They're at a crossroads in their friendship.

I'm going to spoil a part of this for those who get their hopes up: no, this isn't the queer platonic love story of my dreams. I think without that expectation, it would be more enjoyable. Instead, it ends exactly the way you think.

I call it "chick lit" because it is so much more about their emotional journeys than their romances and, fortunately, it knows that, otherwise the book would be insufferable. Neither Beth, with her constant people-pleasing and avoidance, nor Serena, self-involved and selfish, are heroines I'd want to root for if their friendship wasn't so interesting–but chick lit rarely starts with anyone at their best.

I enjoyed this quick-paced book, I just had to accept it for what it is.
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Profile Image for Emma Hardy.
1,280 reviews77 followers
January 13, 2025
I really struggled to connect with these 2 characters. They felt like stroppy teenagers rather than late 20s. Good to see demisexual and queer representation but I dragged myself through reading this and felt too old for this book despite being in my early 30s. Beth and Serena sounded identical in the writing. This felt like a sex (or lack of) chat with no real substance or plot. I think so much more could have been done with this concept but it fell flat.
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388 reviews19 followers
January 18, 2025
I couldn’t really connect with the characters. They were really dependent on one another and it was a bit annoying. Overall though, it was a decent coming of age story. It felt a bit YA, even though it may be targeted for an older group.

Thank you Avon and Net Galley for an advanced copy of this book..
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8,306 reviews423 followers
June 27, 2025
This was a fantastic debut and one of the best books I've read featuring a demisexual main character. I really enjoyed this exploration of sexual identity, female friendship and romantic relationships told from the POV of two British women best friends who couldn't be more opposite. Beth is a virgin who is eager to rectify that situation and Serena is a bit of a slut who has a hard time getting emotionally committed to a partner. This was full of laughs, heart and lots of emotional depth. It was also good on audio and a great read for Pride Month. Many thanks to NetGalley and the publisher for an early audio copy in exchange for my honest review.
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466 reviews9 followers
December 17, 2024
I generally really enjoyed this—Pilcher does a great job capturing the complexities of female friendships, being in your 20s and just not knowing what tf is going on. Serena and Beth are really good, nuanced characters, who you love but also want to shake at times, I appreciated the way Beth’s sexuality was handled; I was nervous about where it was headed but I thought Pilcher took great care with it. The writing gets a little juvenile/messy at times but I sped through this read.
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43 reviews
August 12, 2025
While a cheeky and comedic read for the dog days of summer, “That’s What She Said” also provides insight into platonic, romantic, and sexual relationships in an era of millennial dating.

Flatmates and best friends, Serena and Beth, are two contrasting protagonists with extremely differing needs and desires. Serena, whom is hyper-sexual yet emotionally unavailable, has formed an unspoken superiority complex over Beth, who is demisexual and a 28 year old virgin. Beth, who is struggling in her career and love life, accepts this fate and plays the role of Serena’s follower. After ten years of this dynamic, Beth finds herself searching for confidence to go on dates and Serena enlists herself in being Beth’s “sex doula.” However, Serena’s understanding of intimacy is utterly drastic compared to Beth’s, leading to multiple fall outs and miscommunications that spiral into a true test of friendship. Furthermore, Serena (a lifestyle journalist) pushes her agenda of writing an article on Beth’s “sexual odyssey”, thus using Beth for her story rather than supporting what Beth actually is seeking from HER experience. All the while, Serena struggles to admit deep feelings for her favorite hook up, Zoey. It’s a strange story of Beth being expected to take all of Serena’s advice, yet Serena not willing to listen to Beth’s encouragement to take a romantic leap.

This is a “platonic comedy of errors” as the author coined it. However, as the characters come to realize, this friendship is deeply rooted in restricting one another from growing. Beth and Serena rely on each other for emotional support and do not seek meaningful relationships outside of one another. In this arrangement, they loose all sense of independence and often enable each other to stay comfortable in their unhealthy patterns. Their boundaries are inexistent, to the point Beth records her sex therapy conversation so Serena can hear it and use it in her article. I was so proud when Beth decided to move out after TEN YEARS of living together. When Serena locked it down with Zoey, I wasn’t as impressed, as Serena needs therapy first before involving a healthy partner in her drama. Furthermore, I appreciated how Beth always stood up for Serena when others slut-shamed her, even when Serena countlessly undermined, teased, embarrassed, and exposed elements of Beth’s timidity and discomfort with sex. Honestly, I was so happy when Beth stopped confiding in Serena and reached out to new friends, her sister, and her therapist, because she deserved a support system that validated her rather than used her journey as personal entertainment.


This is Beth’s story, Serena’s just living in it. I wish the author spent more time with Beth’s backstory — when did she find out she was demi? What experience made her discover this? Is her fear of sex rooted in childhood or stigma? More thorough elements to Beth’s sexuality would have created a more powerful storyline than trying to “cure” her with sex toys and speed dating.


I was happy the two friends worked it out in the end and decided to add space to their dynamic and move on from this chapter in their lives. I hope Beth can learn to view herself as independent, sexy, and valid and Serena begins to understand how to respect other’s emotional boundaries and needs.
This entire review has been hidden because of spoilers.
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654 reviews253 followers
August 23, 2025
My Selling Pitch:
Girls meets Sex Education, and it’s just as problematic as its inspo.

Pre-reading:
Love the cover for this.

(obviously potential spoilers from here on)
Thick of it:
Blue? Never encountered that.

I’m assuming this will be another Fleabag inspired mess.

Girl, just lie. It’s fine.

Do you feel Bonita?

The writing reminds me of Beth O’Leary’s.

It’s literally not even embarrassing though. Or awkward. They’re not being mean to you.

Okay, the wristband and the Instagramming, not bad. Disrespecting pronouns though, bad.

I don’t understand the glass of water. Also, blacking out is not a personality, it’s just a red flag.

Mmm, that’s not just if you’re homo. I feel like this book is trying to be sexually woke, but isn’t actually, or is just too clumsy in its wording.

It’s pretty unbelievable to think she’s got nada on sex at 28, like you can be a virgin, but you at least know a bit. It’s inescapable.

Why is she trying to be hey, girl boss! and then describing the medical workers as homely and weasel-faced? It’s giving not like other girls and I hate other girls, and I’m like what’s wrong with you. Other girls are the best.

Hey girlypop, you always have the luxury to grow a full bush if that’s what you wanna do even if you are in a relationship, and if he gives you shit for having one, you shouldn’t be in a relationship with him.

I have such bad medical anxiety this is skeeving me out, but that’s a me problem not a fault with this book.

How are you gonna go on all about the importance of smear tests and then talk about G spots? They don’t exist. Do your homework.

Oh DNF right here. How dare you speak about other women this way? This isn’t a fun joke. This is just internalized misogyny. Your vagina does not get stretched out.

T Swift sin

What is with all the girl-hate in this book? Oh, I’m so out.

You’re bitter because your neglectful mother isn’t financing your adult life when you have your own career?

I think this author thinks she’s writing Lena Dunham‘s Girls.

She’s not very respectful of her friend’s sexuality.

This is bad advice. This is reminding me of the Build-a-Boyfriend Project.

But that’s not why Gen Z is waiting to have sex for so much longer. It’s really that we have fewer options and more education and men are fucking horrible.

I’m gonna need a good justification for why she chose 28 for these characters and not 25. I feel like 25 fits the story much better.

There is most definitely an app.

If you can afford Ted Baker, you can afford a new leg for your table.

Lotsa pop culture

Taste of her cherry chapstick🎶 lol

That’s incorrect UTI pissing info. This is so half-baked. How are you gonna write a sex science rom-com and not get facts right?

Detritus sin

Harry Potter sin

Ma’am this is a sex addiction, and you’re going to catch something.

Mr. Bates? As in masterbates?

Yeah, that is sexual assault, and if this book keeps trying to downplay it-

It’s hard because this book is charming, but the advice in it is so shit, and when you stop and think about it, its attitudes about sex and relationships are not just disheartening, but like actually dangerous, but I LIKE Beth and Serena.

Girl, why do you care if your dad is in the same city?? He sucks.

Because you have free will and it’s not on your friends to make your decisions for you. Grow up, Beth.

That’s not quite true though because she literally did go to the doctors with you and hold your hand. I just don’t think they’re being fair to each other, which I get is part of the point, but it’s frustrating to read.

I think this is really bad advice. I don’t think she’s in any place to be dating someone.

Do I need to start tracking Saltburn mentions because it really is in a lot of books this year!

This bitch is gonna ruin his wedding and get fired. (Wrong! I know, it surprised me too.)

I tried Percy Pigs when they came to Target, and they’re fucking gross.

There’s a LOT of pop culture in this.

Say my name, say my name 🎶

It’s a me!

You know the retreat started positively with them, and then she got selfish, but also Beth needs to express her desires.

Bitch, can you do your job and do some actual research?

Girl, take the money and run.

I know this book thinks it’s wrapping with a HEA, but I’m like they need to cook longer.

Post-reading:
If you want a book that feels like the whacky shenanigans of Sex and the City or Girls or The Bold Type and are willing to blindly overlook all its problematic dialogue since it bills itself as sex positive and feminist, this’ll do.

If you’re like me and begrudgingly enjoy that content because FASHION and GIRLHOOD and FUCK, IF WE CAN’T ROMANTICIZE OUR LIVES IN A RENT CONTROLLED NYC APARTMENT, WHAT DO WE EVEN HAVE ANYMORE, SHARON-ahem, but can’t stop the scowl every time the internalized misogyny rears its head, you’re gonna have some issues.

This book loves to put down other women. It’s incredibly irresponsible for it to push a sex positivity storyline and then mishandle just about every topic it attempts to tackle. Some of the science is outdated or dead wrong. Continuing to push the narrative that vaginas loosen with use is VILE.

It’s an odd arc to me too. It essentially forces its demisexual character to explore sex and get assaulted like that’s the only way she can have a valid relationship. Like the end goal of any relationship should be to have sex. It’s a super weird and harmful message.

The book’s far too blasé about sexual assault. It’s got a real eh, that’s life air to it that is, again, so gross.

Serena’s sexuality is embraced but ignores pretty explicit sex addiction behaviors. She plays fast and loose with her and others’ sexual health and it really didn’t sit right with me. Promiscuity isn’t bad, but you have to play safely. The male escort she hires never consents to being on a phone call during the act. Like there’s a lot of icky stuff that’s treated as humorous, but should actually be concerning.

And yet it’s still kinda charming? I think a lot of that stems from a fabulous audiobook. If you’re going to pick this up, I don’t just recommend the audiobook, I think it should be the standard way to consume this.

There’s a lot of pop culture references and cringe humor. It’s very sitcom. It just doesn’t have much depth. It’s a story about two problematic besties, but they never really get their shit together. Relationships are treated like the final life goal, like being in one is the only way to be a valid adult. That’s a bad message.

The characters are messy but you root for them. I don’t think it was the right choice to make them 28. They’re extremely immature for that age, and it’s hard to buy that Beth has somehow gone 28 years on this planet without picking up even the basic mechanics of sex. I think 25 would’ve suited them much better.

It’s not going on my do not read list. I don’t think it’s that offensive. But I also don’t think I would recommend this. It’s not good demi rep. It’s not funny enough to be worth your time separated from its shortcomings.

Who should read this:
Girls fans
Sitcom fans
Beth O’Leary fans
Katherine Center fans

Ideal reading time:
Anytime

Do I want to reread this:
Nope

Would I buy this:
Nope

Similar books:
* The Build-a-Boyfriend Project by Mason Deaver-queer, contemporary rom-com
* Passion Project by London Sperry-contemporary romance
* First-Time Caller by B. K. Borison-contemporary romance
* Definitely Better Now by Ava Robinson-contemporary romance, family drama
* Greta and Valdin by Rebecca K. Reilly-lit fic, character study, queer romance, family drama
* The Wake-Up Call by Beth O’Leary-holiday rom-com
* Text Appeal by Amber Roberts-contemporary romance
* Big Swiss by Jen Beagin-lit fic, queer
* Hello Stranger by Katherine Center-contemporary romance, family drama
* Not That Kind of Ever After by Luci Adams-fairytale retelling, contemporary romance
* The No-Show by Beth O’Leary-contemporary romance
* Laid and Confused by Maria Yagoda-nonfiction, self-help, sex science, memoir

Thank you to Netgalley and the publisher for a copy of this book in exchange for an honest review.
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110 reviews4 followers
March 20, 2025
Thank you to Eleanor Pilcher and Avon Books for the ARC of That's What She Said! I absolutely adored it.

From the very beginning of this story, where we found Beth uncomfortable and embarrassed at an overly sexual hen do and Serena swooping in to save her, I was immediately hooked. I related to both of them in different ways - Beth's anxiety and discomfort with sex, Serena's life-of-the-party attitude - that made me want to get to know them more deeply.

When I read the summary, I thought at first that this was a friends with benefits book... then I thought it was all about their wacky 'sexual odyssey' hijinks. About halfway in, though, it became very clear that this was not a surface-level read, and oh my gosh how refreshing it was.

Beth and Serena both have some things to work through, but they're very human in their approaches. I could tell based on other reviews I read that not everyone agrees with this. Many felt they were childish, but honestly, aren't we the people always talking about how we don't want to 'adult' and still feel like college kids sometimes, not knowing how to be proper people? I know I've felt that way, and having characters that drop into what's 'easy' or 'comfortable' instead of doing what's right for themselves or others feels distinctly human. The fact that this was explored and we saw the flaws but also the strengths of their friendship was so good.

By the end of the book, I found myself frequently fighting off tears at the pure relief of it all. Having a friendship as deep and long as theirs comes with a lot of complicated feelings, and I was so grateful to see things work out all the way around. The ending was a little rushed, but I didn't mind.

Demisexual and Bisexual rep, sexuality exploration in a whole new way, and a realistic look at female friendships... I'm grateful I got to read this. Absolutely adored it.

Thank you again so much for the ARC! That's What She Said by Eleanor Pilcher is out on April 15th. I highly recommend checking it out.
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342 reviews6 followers
December 31, 2024
An entertaining and wonderfully British read on close friendship and demisexuality that was just the right amount of cheesy and over-the-top.

I appreciated the excellent representation - I've read a few books featuring broadly asexual characters yet none who were explicitly demisexual, examined in such a personal way and how it affects all relationships in the life of main character Beth. Despite focusing on what can potentially be a serious topic, the narrative remains light-hearted at the same time without painting either Beth's or outgoing sex-positive BFF Serena's lifestyles as better or worse.

Although there are romantic themes and storylines throughout, most of the focus remains on the close opposites-attract friendship - a refreshing take considering the themes of opposing sexualities and related experiences.

I enjoyed the humour so much I ended up finishing this faster than expected. As a British person living in the US I appreciate this didn't appear to be awkwardly edited for American readers, keeping it relatable and often slightly nostalgic throughout. Would definitely recommend to anyone looking for a light-hearted yet informed read on demisexuality and female friendship.

Cheers to NetGalley for the eARC!
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1,263 reviews190 followers
October 9, 2025
While I love that this centered upon female friendship and featured a demisexual fmc and her bisexual bestie, I did not enjoy this book overall.

I really appreciate the journey Beth went on and her learning more about her self, gaining confidence, and also standing up for herself. Serena, seemingly perfect, also had loads to work through and got there in the end. However, especially for Serena, her growth was way too delayed in the book that I swear I wanted to throw my copy into the river.

This book is heavily cringe and highlights secondhand embarrassment, aka my worst nightmare. I think some bits were funny, but most was just questionable and stayed in a joke for too long.

Overall, this was a quirky woman's fiction story that I read and cringed through. Not terrible, but wildly frustrating.
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19 reviews1 follower
September 7, 2025
Pilcher's debut is as hilarious as it is touching, and I felt myself growing more and more invested in the characters and their emotional journeys.
Serena and Beth couldn't be more opposite, but their friendship is so convincingly written and is a true testament to the sisterhood and family found in platonic relationships.
The representation of different sexualities within the book was really refreshing; even though Beth's demisexuality and journey accepting and exploring this part of herself (through the proclaimed "sexual odyssey", which gave me a giggle) it didn't feel forced in the slightest!
I couldn't recommend this more as a feel-good book to escape a reading slump; it is easy to slip in and out of, and definitely allows for a good giggle.
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1,110 reviews21 followers
May 14, 2025
Eleanor Pilcher’s debut novel, That’s What She Said, is a witty and heartfelt exploration of female friendship, sexual identity, and personal growth. The story centers on Beth, a 28-year-old demisexual woman determined to take control of her sex life. Enlisting the help of her confident and free-spirited best friend, Serena, Beth embarks on a series of humorous and enlightening experiences—including speed dating, sex therapy, and even hiring an escort. However, as both women confront their own romantic entanglements and personal insecurities, their once-solid friendship faces unexpected challenges.

Pilcher masterfully balances humor and depth, creating characters that are both relatable and complex. Beth’s journey of self-discovery is portrayed with sensitivity and authenticity, while Serena’s struggles with her past add emotional resonance to the narrative. The dynamic between the two protagonists is compelling, capturing the nuances of a deep platonic bond tested by evolving desires and life changes.

The novel’s pacing keeps readers engaged, with each chapter unveiling new facets of the characters’ lives and their evolving relationship. Pilcher’s prose is sharp and engaging, effectively conveying the internal conflicts and growth of her characters.

That’s What She Said is a refreshing addition to contemporary fiction, offering a nuanced portrayal of friendship and identity. It’s a must-read for those interested in stories that celebrate the complexities of modern relationships and the journey toward self-acceptance.
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110 reviews2 followers
January 9, 2025
That's What She Said by Eleanor Pilcher is the kind of book that feels like a chaotic brunch with your besties—equal parts heart, humor, and scandalous confessions. Beth’s Sexual Odyssey List is pure gold, from awkward speed-dating to sex therapy, all with Serena, her hilariously no-filter BFF, cheering (and meddling) from the sidelines.

The friendship? A glorious hot mess. The humor? Chef’s kiss. And the representation? A+ for tackling demisexuality with honesty while keeping it fun. It's like emotional growth wrapped in a sitcom episode. This heartfelt, laugh-out-loud debut drops April 15, 2025, and trust me, it’s worth the pre-order. Thank you, @NetGalley, for this gem!
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655 reviews7 followers
May 20, 2025
I really loved the wide range of characters throughout the story.
That’s What She Says follows two roommates as they grow out of the college roomies they once were and settle into more adult lives and relationships. Beth and Serena live together in London and thrive on the way they compliment each other. Beth is more reserved, working on identifying the tenants of her demisexuality and Serena is sexually confident but unable to tell the woman she loves that she loves her. They balance each other out so when Beth decides she wants to take charge of her sex life, Serena is more than happy to help- no matter what that looks like.
The author easily navigated the different ways the characters experience intimacy and the various ways that it can look for people.
It was a really quick read, with relatable characters and great character growth throughout.
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148 reviews
May 1, 2025
i enjoyed this a decent amount— beth and her journey was for sure the highlight of the book for me. about half way through i started to not vibe with serena at all but *somewhat* made my peace with her at the end. i did really appreciate that serena and beth didn’t go back to the way they were before and decided to learn and grow from their “falling out”.
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71 reviews5 followers
April 27, 2025
It wasn’t what I was expecting. It had its funny moments but, overall, it wasn’t for me. I can see other people liking it though.

Thank you, NetGalley, Avon and Harper Voyager, and Eleanor Pilcher for this eARC.
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73 reviews
July 12, 2025
Easy, quick read. It took me a few chapters to get into it (I did not like the Hen Do where it started! I agree with Beth- the one and only bach party I've been to was bowling, and that was good). Not too much romance either. It's mostly about the two main characters, Beth and Serena, and their friendship and growth (eventually). I must say Mr. Bates was my favourite though. The only voice of reason in the place...

Also, not sure the author knows how cousin removals work. Or maybe the character just didn't know.
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18 reviews
November 21, 2025
I was so excited to read a story about two platonic soulmates; instead, I was met with a horrible first impression of a book. Yeah, it was raunchy and cringey right off the bat, which I would have been fine with if it was just that I had to deal with, but what I really hated was the straight-up offensive depiction of an asexual person. The main character, demisexual Beth, is a shy and insecure virgin, while her bi bestie Serena is the ~confident~ one, experienced through her countless sexual encounters. In the beginning of the book, we see Serena sweep in to save the damsel in distress that is Beth from an overly sexual bachelorette party that Beth is for some reason participating in, even though she is completely repulsed by the whole ordeal (and then is also absolutely humiliated at because she is the only one there who has never had a sexual encounter).

Like, I'm sure there is some character development at some point-- that we find out that Serena is not as cool and confident as she seems, that Beth has qualities about her that end up helping Serena (or at least I hope)--but I gave it 3 chapters and my last straw was when they called Beth "innocent" at one point. Can we not depict asexual characters as shy and infantilized?
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174 reviews2 followers
December 1, 2025
the pacing of is off, i think, as is how it’s marketed (to some degree). both characters need to be fleshed out a little more imo (and given how long the book is, i don’t know what the excuse is!!). mildly enjoyable, would definitely watch the tv series version. both characters’ romantic relationships feel very rushed, especially their resolutions in the end.
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