Three months back on the job, and they're already coming out of the woodwork. The bad guys you expect. The gangsters and the hoods with old axes to grind. They all come with the territory. But the heroes - them you don't expect. Popping up to give you the eyeball and make sure you're toeing the line. Their line. Spider-Man... Frank Castle, the angel of death himself...even the fugitive Captain America. And now, this other thing. Someone is out there. Someone hitting the old haunts, scenes of the old crimes. Leaving messages. Leaving bodies. Someone who knows you. Someone who crushes steel and pulls off limbs. All to get your attention. Someone out of your league.
Charlie Huston is an American novelist, screenwriter, and comic book writer known for his genre-blending storytelling and character-driven narratives. His twelve novels span crime, horror, and science fiction, and have been published by Ballantine, Del Rey, Mulholland, and Orion, with translations in nine languages. He is the creator of the Henry Thompson trilogy, beginning with Caught Stealing, which was announced in 2024 as a forthcoming film adaptation directed by Darren Aronofsky and starring Austin Butler. Huston’s stand-alone novels include The Shotgun Rule, The Mystic Arts of Erasing All Signs of Death, Sleepless, and Skinner. He also authored the vampire noir series Joe Pitt Casebooks while living in Manhattan and later California. Huston has written pilots for FX, FOX, Sony, and Tomorrow Studios, served as a writer and producer on FOX’s Gotham, and developed original projects such as Arcadia. In comics, he rebooted Moon Knight for Marvel, contributed to Ultimates Annual, and penned the Wolverine: The Best There Is series.
I don't know why I forgot to mention The Profile the last time around, but I did. I've never seen him outside of a Moon Knight comic, but I thought he was a great addition to the story. He has the ability to completely read anyone just by looking at them. Kind of like a supernatural Sherlock Holmes, only sleazy. I could be completely wrong, but I think Huston's run was his 1st appearance in the Marvel Universe. Hope he shows up again someday.
2017 This volume of Moon Knight has the Civil War tie-in included in it, but unbelievably the event doesn't hijack the story at all.
In fact, it really (and I can't BELIEVE I'm typing this) helped everything move forward in a pretty fluid way. Throughout different issues, Marc is visited by Spider-man, Steve Rogers, and Tony Stark. And in an almost hilarious turn of events . Of course, threats are made that his brand of violent justice won't be tolerated, and he needs to get on board with some normal heroing...or else.
Alongside the SRA stuff, the real story is playing out. Marc's old sidekick Midnight has gone completely bonkers and turned into some sort of psychotic serial killer, obsessing about some grand showdown with Moon Knight. Oh yeah...AND HE'S GOT NO SKIN! So, there's that.
The conclusion to Midnight's storyline was not at all what I saw coming. Bravo, Huston! I was taken by surprise at the way it ended, and that doesn't happen all that often anymore.
I think my only complaint would have to be that I wasn't familiar with Midnight or the 'nurse' who was helping him, and I probably would have gotten even more out of the story if I had more background information on those two. However, that's on me, and I do plan on going back and reading earlier volumes so I can get their origin stories firsthand. But Huston does a good enough job explaining Midnight that you technically don't have to do that, I just want to go back and poke around for fun.
The last issue ties up the Civil War stuff, and it was FABULOUS. Spector manages to find a way to make it work for him in a very Moon Knight-y way. Plus, the whole will-she/won't she take him back with Marlene's story that was threaded through the issues concludes, as well. Did I mention I love Marlene? Damn, she's an ass-kicker! Oh, I almost forgot! Punisher shows up in an issue that's somewhat tied into Civil War, but could also stand on its own really well. And I'm not sure how, but Frank comes off looking almost well-rounded and at peace when you sit him next to Marc. Whodathunkit?
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It seems some time has passed since vol 1. Marc has donned the suit and he is definitely making some noise on the street. Khonshu won’t give him any powers because Marc refuses to give over to him completely. Something is wondering the streets, making a mess. To the cops, it looks like a copycat of the Midnight Man. Marc isn’t so sure and he’s definitely afraid that his old nemesis is back. All of this is happening at the same time as Captain America and Tony Stark are battling it out over superhero registration.
I enjoyed digging further into Moon Knight’s world. The cameos from Steve Rogers, Frank Castle, Tony Stark and Spider-Man are awesome! I’m glad to see Marc find more people on his side. Unfortunately, Marlene has definitely moved on and it’s causing Marc some problems. Jeff Wilde is an interesting character. His final scenes felt a bit confusing and rushed. There are definitely parts where you see the psychosis and other times you can see the otherworldly magic. There are a couple of added short chapters that aren’t really a part of the overall narrative but they add a great deal to Marc’s story. Hoping to find my equilibrium in vol 3.
This series is really dark and graphic. It's like the Se7en of comics. Midnight, Moon Knight's former sidekick is now a cyborg and killing people in horrific ways just to get Moon Knight's attention. The non-linear storytelling in this arc was really hard to follow. It would flip back and forth between a few hours in the same location and it was incredibly hard to notice when it did, until you realized that's why you were confused. I actually liked the Civil War interludes. Everyone kept showing up to tell them they didn't want Moon Knight on their side. Huston relies on people knowing what happened in the previous Moon Knight series which came out 20 years ago. He needs to do a better job of explaining what happened when it's referenced.
David Finch left after issue #8. Fortunately, Mico Suayan capably takes over the art chores.
Well, while there are some good plot ideas here I am still not happy with the new ultra violent way the character is being changed into. Not sure why the writers are warping this hero into something different. For now still recommended
While I'm onto the character Moon Knight I think I'm just not into this run. I hate the art more than ever and half the time I can't even see wtf is going on. It's dark and grimy and multiple characters are missing the skin on their faces like okay gross and for what? I don't like how people were drawn in general, especially women (not like there were many in this at all though) but the men looked gross as well.
In this volume he deals with a serial killer named Midnight who is obsessed with time and the resolution to this arc was just whatever. I didn't know anything about these characters to begin with and I sure don't know anything now.
There is also yet another Civil War event tie-in but at least this time it doesn't take over the story. We get cameos from Captain America, Tony Stark, Punisher, and Spider-man but they really don't have relevance besides to stop by and say "hey I don't like your methods" and then they just leave. I don't get why Captain America is on the cover besides for you to think you're getting something else from this volume.
I want to read more Moon Knight but I'm not reading anymore from this run.
Not as good as the first. Similar to the first volume I like the ideas Huston has and I think the overarching story is good, but a lot of the in between moments and dialogue can be very boring to read. And here it was a bit too much for my tastes. I did enjoy the cameos of other heroes throughout this book like Steve Rogers and Frank Castle.
Ouch, I thought the first volume with Taskmaster was really good, but this story arc with the Midnight Son did nothing for me, and I just couldn't finish it, I liked the Civil War tie-ins, and that's about it, the dialogue felt way off most of the time, and there's a lot of edginess for the sake of it, it's also pretty obvious that Charlie Huston was basically doing his Marvel version of Batman.
I really like the character of Moon Knight and I love Charlie Huston's novels. But the two of them just don't go together. I get the sense that Huston just doesn't understand comics and how they work and how to write them. And his expletive-filled dialogue just looks funny with "####" filling in for the four-letter words. That said, this volume was at least a step up from the first one. And the art by David Finch is pretty good--lots of intricate detail, though it looks better in the first couple of issues, with spare inking, and gets blocky and less clean in the later issues of the collection.
I have the same gripes with Finch's art here that I did with the first six issues. It's too dark, too jumbled. There are some panels in which I couldn't tell what I was looking at. Not a great strategy for effective sequential storytelling. Likewise, the plot doesn't unfold in a linear timeline, and that distracts from the narrative continuity. I had a hard time following the story. However, despite my totally valid criticisms, there are many bright spots here, plenty of neat images and story moments that make this comic worth a read, at least once.
Let me begin by stating that I just love Finch’s art in this Moon Knight run. Carrying over from Vol. 1 and Moon Knight is on the hunt of the Midnight Man (who is rumored to be part of the upcoming show). This on the backdrop of the Civil War event, in which Moon Knight is not really picking a side.
Started out strong and then Marvel does what they always do an changed the artists... :( -Marvel, that's like changing and actor in a TV series mid-season! It was still pretty good, though.
Three months since the events of Vol. 1. Spidey pays a visit!
And in issue #2 we get to meet Captain America. I didn‘t recognize him at first and had to go back to the start of the chapter to make sure. Pretty ugly guy and not nice. But neither is Spector. It took me longer to get to this point than in volume 1. It felt very episodic and it wasn‘t terribly enamored with the artwork either.
The artwork of volume 1 was much better. Here it‘s messier, coarser and anatomically more over the top. I don‘t like the look of Marc Spector. Issue #9 was the point when I thought „Wow, this is really ugly!“
The plot didn‘t do it for me either. Well, there wasn‘t really much of a plot. By issue #10 I had lost interest and started some light skimming. Very disappointing after the fun and wackyness of the first volume. Besides David Finch we have several other illustrators that were not part of volume 1. Maybe that made the difference?
I took a break, then started issue #11. After the first few frames I started to skim heavily. I didn‘t like the artwork or the confusing plot. Skimmed past issue #12 and #13.
Annual 1 (the last issue) was not really my cup of tea either in terms of artwork, but it was well drawn. And this issue had a coherent story. Well, the beginning of a story. It didn‘t really get past the introduction.
So, after an excellent first volume this was a massive let-down and I will definitely not get the next volume. Disappointing.
Second review: This Spector is dark, fatalistic and far more stridently anti-authoritarian than I’d ever detected in the books I’ve read with him before.
And brutal - like, a Hellraiser moment where he’s hooked a chain to a bad guy’s cheek, then bashed his truncheon *through* the guy’s skull. Wow man.
He’s not just crazy - he’s fully externalised the voices we all tamp down in our heads, wanting to make us question every decision, give us just enough pause to keep from putting ourselves in mortal danger.
This Marc Spector? Marinates in those thoughts, letting them play out in 3D until he’s ready to smash skulls into paste without hesitation. Makes the original 80’s MK the Hannah Montana to Huston’s twerking Miley.
THAT’s the gift of Huston’s run. Not even Ennis’ Punisher is this remorseless when the costume slips on.
(God *damn* is the art in this book gothic and horrific.)
==Original review== When I'm reading this, I get a strong "Hellraiser" hit off the writing. The guy is totally tormented by inner demons who are trying to rip him apart. The way he strains against the inevitable pull of the dark, and swings wildly between violence and restraint, is a lot like whiplash. Even the final story in Huston's arc is still like a tug of war, even as it's turning a page towards a new chapter of Marc Spector.
Okay, so I was unsure if I was going to continue with this series or not if I'm being completely honest because I wanted to find somewhere I could get a better foundation for understanding the character. However, this one has Captain America on the cover so of course I had to read it. We all know I love Steve Rogers. This book had bits and pieces in it regarding the Civil War event, but it was definitely still very much a side plot to the story. Marc is met by Steve and Tony separately who basically warn him to not intervene, he's a former avenger but he's also unhinged. I liked Marc slightly more in this book but I found the love plot between him and Marlene tedious throughout this book. It's obvious they both care for one another, or at least did for a long time, but it soon became a really repetitive cycle of him being rude and expecting her love and attention. Boring. The side characters in this series seem to be my favourite.
Not because Marc has a split personality disorder but because the way people talk, the flow of narration, it all feels weird. Sometimes people half speaking or conversations starting mid-convo. There were times had to read scenes a few times to understand exactly what the fuck I was reading. Oh top of that the art is hyper detailed but sometimes makes everyone way to ugly and icky looking.
Saying that. I did find myself enjoying most of my time reading it. Mostly cause Marc's old sidekick has gone off the deep end and now acts as a psycho version of say Bucky. Mad that marc doesn't view him as a sidekick anymore and wants to beat him to death. It's that psycho type villain that helps keep this volume interesting. Also the fact Civil War event actually gives us some great moments with Marc at the end.
So yeah, some great stuff, some weird as hell stuff, and disjointed at times. But solid enough to enjoy just wish was better constructed all together. A 3 out of 5.
Moon Knight Vol. 2 collects issues 7-23 and Annual 1 of the Marvel Comic series written by Charlie Huston and Duane Swierczynski and art by David Finch, Mico Suayan, Tomm Coker, and Jefte Palo.
Set during the events of Marvel's Civil War, Moon Knight is back on the job and beating up gangsters and running into many New York-based superheroes: Spider-Man, Punisher, Captain Ameeica and Iron Man. The annual sees a woman's support group telling their history of male violence with Moon Knight helping all the women.
I'm not really caring for the main storyline. It is hard to make sense and doesn't flow well. I don't think Charlie Huston is a good writer. David Finch is already done in the book after like only 8 issues. I did really enjoy the annual. Hoping the next arc is better.
Potty mouthed Batman like vigilante. Pretty good read. I liked the faceless ghost sidekick. The faux classic dot look in the last chapter was also nice.
This book tackles some of the darker aspects of Moon Knight, ties it into the greater Marvel universe, and gives the character a new starting point. In volume one, Marc Spector was picking up the pieces of his life and trying to step back into the role of Moon Knight. Volume two dredges up a lot of old issues from his past and delves into the psyche of the character in an interesting way.
This particular series of Moon Knight is filled with blood, violence, and art that matches the heavy nature of the character. It also doesn't shy away from the fact that he is just a man. There are scenes where he is going through physical therapy, being torn to pieces, and questioned about any powers he might have. These seemingly unconnected moments tie back to the core of the character because he is not one of those legends that almost seem untouchable.
They also play a role in how this book interacts with the Civil War event that was going on at the time. The reactions from both Captain America and Iron Man to Marc Spector are great. My favorite part of the whole volume is how calculating he is to be able to sidestep that whole issue without just blowing it off.
There are a bunch of characters that show up that fans of the character will recognize. Admittedly, I'm not familiar with the one that ends up being the antagonist in this book. I still found him intriguing, especially when contrasted with the character that becomes Moon Knight's pseudo sidekick. Facing this threat gears Marc to look toward the future personally and in his superhero identity.
Sometimes you want Grim and Gritty. The art is amazing. New villain Midnight giving Moon Knight trouble, all the while guest starring Spidey, Punisher, CapA. Tony Stark. In a 'Casualties of War' Tie-in. Last issue deals with a S.H.I.E.L.D psych test for Moon Knight. In a 'Initiative' Tie-in. Bad art. Great writing. Great issue overall.
Nagy lelkesedéssel kezdtem el, ha már az előző rész annyira tetszett, de szomorúan kellett tudomásul vennem, hogy annak a nyomába sem ér. A sztori felejthető, egy-két jobb momentum van, de semmi extra, és ami kifejezetten bosszantó, hogy elég nagy ugrásokkal halad előre a történet. Vannak benne szuperhős cameok, így feltűnik Spider-Man, Punisher, és Captain America is többek között, de a többségük simán kihagyható lett volna. Van néhány mondatuk, aztán annyi. Egyébként a történet egy része a Civil War alatt játszódik, valószínűleg ezért is lettek beleerőltetve, de minimális, amit hozzátesznek a sztorihoz. A történet brutalitása maradt, szerintem továbbra is illik a karakterhez, nem éreztem öncélúnak. A rajzolással is akadt némi problémám. Több stílus váltogatja egymást a kötetben, nem számoltam meg mennyi, de négy legalább. Nekem nem tetszett mindegyik, van, amit kifejezetten csúnyának találtam, van, amelyik tetszett, de nyilván ez egyéni ízlés kérdése is.
Psyche Test This book is an interesting one. And this is going to be a loooong ass review but please read it if you have time because I think I will be one of the only people touching on a certain area of this book's story and characters. After reading volume 1 and pretty much loving it, I was skeptical about the rest of Charlie Huston's run and if he could the quality up to par. And he did and didn't at the same. This volume is really damn good in 2 regards. Exploring the complexities of Marc Spector's sanity and morals AND the supporting characters focusing on this idea. Oh and the art is pretty awesome almost all the way throughout.
Marc Spector’s character is one of the most complicated I’ve read about in a long time. He is sooooooo many things and so messed up in the head it's crazy. (Keep in mind I am just talking about Marc Spector. Charlie Huston does not focus on Steven Grant or Jake Lockley.) The way the book explores this is the absolute best part of the book. Frenchie and the Profile provide the readers with the most in depth look at Marc and his actions while the book is tying those scenes in with the actual ongoing plot for all the characters. It’s not just exposition. I was so happy to actually be learning more about his character so I could stop subconsciously thinking “that’s exactly like Bruce Wayne or Daredevil”. This guy is not well. What we are really reading about is a man’s journey with mental illness. The profile plays a big part in this and is hands down Moon Knight’s most interesting villain so far. He can’t fight Marc Spector physically, but just like the Joker, can really fuck with our protagonists mind and make him realize things about himself. Another thing this book finally puts to rest is if Moon Knight is actually a hero. We learn here that no he isn’t. Explaining that statement I just made would spoil some of the best scenes in the book. He is indecisive about his morals and whether it’s alright to kill or not. Cause we have seen many times that Moon Knight is not above brutally killing or maiming someone who he thinks deserves it. In fact there is a part in the story where he goes out to find low level criminals just to destroy them. Even other characters who make cameos in this title say their piece about how unstable Spector is. 3 out of the four cameos really add to Spector’s character.
In terms of the cameos made by the other characters 3 out of the four are great. As long as you are not looking at the dumbass covers to these issues. For you poor bastards who read this book in single issues I am sorry but you must have been maaaaad when you found out that Spider-Man is in the book for maybe a page, Captain America shows up without the suit, The Punisher makes a one panel appearance in the issue cover he was teased in, and Iron Man never actually shows up. Well he technically does but without the suit. Now I personally didn’t get too bent up over these cameos because I would definitely prefer the dialogue driven scenes between the other heroes and Marc than an issue where it’s just all out action. It’s just deeper and once again adds to the strongest element in the book. Marc Spector himself. So ya good stuff except for Spider-Man’s cameo. That was unacceptable. A big flashy cover with MOON KNIGHT AND SPIDER-MAN TEAMING UP!!! But nah. Not even close.
Alright so besides all the little gripes I mentioned so far with this book, I still have a few more to go over sadly. This is one of the smaller nit picks but I think that Khonshu’s has changed and not for the better. Khonshu has turned into the Joker from Arkham Knight. He is much too satirical, jokey, and unoriginal. Charlie Huston should have left it as it was before with Khonshu. The second little nitpick I have is the look of Marc Spector. Goddamn does he ever look like Bruce Wayne. I’M SORRY. I know I keep bringing up Batman but I can’t help it. He waaaaaaaay looks too much like Wayne or any other really built and dark haired hero dudes. AND THEN, in the middle of the story his hair turns to blonde. I dunno man it just seems lazy to change little details like that and not expecting readers to notice or care. I assume it had something to do with the artists changing quite a bit in this book. I really wish Spector had his red hair from the 1970’s. SO my biggest problem I have with this book is one of the main plot lines. The fucking clock bullcrap. Not only is this a much less interesting plot than everything else but there is not enough attention devoted to it for it to even be clever or intriguing. At the end of the book it is just lazily thrown back into the mix and by that time I just didn’t care. They should have revolved the entire arc around the plot or just not had it at all. Which is what I would have preferred. Like I said learning about Marc Spector was more than compelling enough to have the entire book devoted to it.
In the end I thought this book was amazing in one particular aspect. Marc and the analyzation of his character, morals, actions, and sanity. The book also expertly weaves all this info into the plot and other characters so it’s not just lazy exposition. The art was impressive throughout most of the book, and the superhero cameos were well done. FOR THE MOST PART. The whole clock villain subplot was sloppily written and boring to be honest and there are a couple of other nitpicks I have. But the good outweighs the bad and if are truly wanting understand or at least try to understand Moon Knight’s character definitely check this one out. Charlie Huston’s run as a whole is fantastic. Letter Grade: (B+)
Psyche Test This book is an interesting one. And this is going to be a loooong ass review but please read it if you have time because I think I will be one of the only people touching on a certain area of this book's story and characters. After reading volume 1 and pretty much loving it, I was skeptical about the rest of Charlie Huston's run and if he could the quality up to par. And he did and didn't at the same. This volume is really damn good in 2 regards. Exploring the complexities of Marc Spector's sanity and morals AND the supporting characters focusing on this idea. Oh and the art is pretty awesome almost all the way throughout.
Marc Spector’s character is one of the most complicated I’ve read about in a long time. He is sooooooo many things and so messed up in the head it's crazy. (Keep in mind I am just talking about Marc Spector. Charlie Huston does not focus on Steven Grant or Jake Lockley.) The way the book explores this is the absolute best part of the book. Frenchie and the Profile provide the readers with the most in depth look at Marc and his actions while the book is tying those scenes in with the actual ongoing plot for all the characters. It’s not just exposition. I was so happy to actually be learning more about his character so I could stop subconsciously thinking “that’s exactly like Bruce Wayne or Daredevil”. This guy is not well. What we are really reading about is a man’s journey with mental illness. The profile plays a big part in this and is hands down Moon Knight’s most interesting villain so far. He can’t fight Marc Spector physically, but just like the Joker, can really fuck with our protagonists mind and make him realize things about himself. Another thing this book finally puts to rest is if Moon Knight is actually a hero. We learn here that no he isn’t. Explaining that statement I just made would spoil some of the best scenes in the book. He is indecisive about his morals and whether it’s alright to kill or not. Cause we have seen many times that Moon Knight is not above brutally killing or maiming someone who he thinks deserves it. In fact there is a part in the story where he goes out to find low level criminals just to destroy them. Even other characters who make cameos in this title say their piece about how unstable Spector is. 3 out of the four cameos really add to Spector’s character.
In terms of the cameos made by the other characters 3 out of the four are great. As long as you are not looking at the dumbass covers to these issues. For you poor bastards who read this book in single issues I am sorry but you must have been maaaaad when you found out that Spider-Man is in the book for maybe a page, Captain America shows up without the suit, The Punisher makes a one panel appearance in the issue cover he was teased in, and Iron Man never actually shows up. Well he technically does but without the suit. Now I personally didn’t get too bent up over these cameos because I would definitely prefer the dialogue driven scenes between the other heroes and Marc than an issue where it’s just all out action. It’s just deeper and once again adds to the strongest element in the book. Marc Spector himself. So ya good stuff except for Spider-Man’s cameo. That was unacceptable. A big flashy cover with MOON KNIGHT AND SPIDER-MAN TEAMING UP!!! But nah. Not even close.
Alright so besides all the little gripes I mentioned so far with this book, I still have a few more to go over sadly. This is one of the smaller nit picks but I think that Khonshu’s has changed and not for the better. Khonshu has turned into the Joker from Arkham Knight. He is much too satirical, jokey, and unoriginal. Charlie Huston should have left it as it was before with Khonshu. The second little nitpick I have is the look of Marc Spector. Goddamn does he ever look like Bruce Wayne. I’M SORRY. I know I keep bringing up Batman but I can’t help it. He waaaaaaaay looks too much like Wayne or any other really built and dark haired hero dudes. AND THEN, in the middle of the story his hair turns to blonde. I dunno man it just seems lazy to change little details like that and not expecting readers to notice or care. I assume it had something to do with the artists changing quite a bit in this book. I really wish Spector had his red hair from the 1970’s. SO my biggest problem I have with this book is one of the main plot lines. The fucking clock bullcrap. Not only is this a much less interesting plot than everything else but there is not enough attention devoted to it for it to even be clever or intriguing. At the end of the book it is just lazily thrown back into the mix and by that time I just didn’t care. They should have revolved the entire arc around the plot or just not had it at all. Which is what I would have preferred. Like I said learning about Marc Spector was more than compelling enough to have the entire book devoted to it.
In the end I thought this book was amazing in one particular aspect. Marc and the analyzation of his character, morals, actions, and sanity. The book also expertly weaves all this info into the plot and other characters so it’s not just lazy exposition. The art was impressive throughout most of the book, and the superhero cameos were well done. FOR THE MOST PART. The whole clock villain subplot was sloppily written and boring to be honest and there are a couple of other nitpicks I have. But the good outweighs the bad and if are truly wanting understand or at least try to understand Moon Knight’s character definitely check this one out. Charlie Huston’s run as a whole is fantastic. Letter Grade: (B+)
Doesn't feel like Moon Knigth to me. Too many small crossovers from a bunch of others Super-heroes. The story not going nowhere. I out of this run, not for me!