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Where is THAT in the Bible?
Know Exactly What Scripture Means
In his first book for Our Sunday Visitor, noted Catholic apologist Patrick Madrid helps you:
Be absolutely certain your interpretation of Scripture is accurate Discover how the simple sentence "I never said you stole money" can be the key to understanding the entire Bible Answer any questions a non-Catholic might throw at you Learn exactly what the Bible teaches about the Pope, priestly celibacy, homosexuality, abortion, salvation, and other hot topics Obtain a working knowledge of Scripture so you can feel comfortable talking with Fundamentalists and Evangelicals Allow the life-giving truth and power of Scripture to transform your life Become an effective spokesman for the truth of Catholic teaching.With comprehensive Scripture references, quotes from the great teachers of the Faith, tips on how to deflate even the most vehement arguments, as well as a list of verses typically used against Catholics with effective counterarguments, Where Is That in the Bible? is a great book of Scripture-based apologetics.
175 pages, Kindle Edition
First published August 31, 1999
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About the author
Patrick Madrid
70 books93 followersPATRICK MADRID is the publisher of Envoy Magazine, a journal of contemporary Catholic thought, and the director of the Envoy Institute of Belmont Abbey College. Since its inception in 1996, the Envoy team has garnered numerous journalism awards, including several first-place awards in the magazine-of-the-year “General Excellence” category from the Catholic Press Association.
Patrick is the author or editor of 14 books on Catholic themes including, Pope Fiction, Search and Rescue, Does the Bible Really Say That, 150 Bible Verses Every Catholic Should Know, and The Godless Delusion: A Catholic Challenge to Modern Atheism (Spring 2010). He edited and co-authored the acclaimed multi-volume Surprised by Truth series.
He has published numerous popular articles on Scripture, Church history, patristics, apologetics, and evangelization in various Catholic and Protestant periodicals, and he has contributed scholarly articles on apologetics in the New Catholic Encyclopedia.
Active in apologetics since 1987, he worked at Catholic Answers for eight years (from January 1988 to January 1996), where he served as vice president and helped co-found that apostolate's flagship magazine, This Rock, in January of 1990.
Patrick is a cradle-Catholic, not a convert. By God's grace, he was raised in the Catholic Faith and has been a practicing Catholic his entire life.
Growing up in Southern California, he attended grammar school at the Mission San Juan Capistrano parish school, where for years he served as an altar boy for the parish's daily Traditional Latin Mass in the famed Serra Chapel. Ever since his boyhood, Patrick has loved the Traditional Latin Mass.
Patrick earned a bachelor of science degree in business from the University of Phoenix and a bachelor of philosophy degree (B.Phil.) from the Pontifical College Josephinum in Columbus, Ohio, where he is completing a master's degree in dogmatic theology. He has also done graduate studies in theology at the University of Dallas.
He is the host of several EWTN television series, including “Pope Fiction,” “Search & Rescue,” and "Where Is That In the Bible?" and he hosts the Thursday edition of EWTN Radio's “Open Line” broadcast, heard on approximately 150 AM & FM stations across the United States, as well as on shortwave and on the Sirius Satellite Radio Network (Thursdays from 3:00 p.m. — 5:00 p.m. ET). He is also a regular guest on the "Catholic Answers Live" program and Sirius Radio's "The Catholic Channel."
Patrick serves on the board of trustees of the Dominican School of Philosophy and Theology in Berkeley, CA, on the board of directors of St. Gabriel Catholic Radio, in Columbus, Ohio, and on the board of advisors for Catholics United for the Faith, Immaculate Heart Radio Network, and Catholic Scripture Study International. He authored all the original website content for CatholicsComeHome.org, where he also serves as a theologica
Patrick is the author or editor of 14 books on Catholic themes including, Pope Fiction, Search and Rescue, Does the Bible Really Say That, 150 Bible Verses Every Catholic Should Know, and The Godless Delusion: A Catholic Challenge to Modern Atheism (Spring 2010). He edited and co-authored the acclaimed multi-volume Surprised by Truth series.
He has published numerous popular articles on Scripture, Church history, patristics, apologetics, and evangelization in various Catholic and Protestant periodicals, and he has contributed scholarly articles on apologetics in the New Catholic Encyclopedia.
Active in apologetics since 1987, he worked at Catholic Answers for eight years (from January 1988 to January 1996), where he served as vice president and helped co-found that apostolate's flagship magazine, This Rock, in January of 1990.
Patrick is a cradle-Catholic, not a convert. By God's grace, he was raised in the Catholic Faith and has been a practicing Catholic his entire life.
Growing up in Southern California, he attended grammar school at the Mission San Juan Capistrano parish school, where for years he served as an altar boy for the parish's daily Traditional Latin Mass in the famed Serra Chapel. Ever since his boyhood, Patrick has loved the Traditional Latin Mass.
Patrick earned a bachelor of science degree in business from the University of Phoenix and a bachelor of philosophy degree (B.Phil.) from the Pontifical College Josephinum in Columbus, Ohio, where he is completing a master's degree in dogmatic theology. He has also done graduate studies in theology at the University of Dallas.
He is the host of several EWTN television series, including “Pope Fiction,” “Search & Rescue,” and "Where Is That In the Bible?" and he hosts the Thursday edition of EWTN Radio's “Open Line” broadcast, heard on approximately 150 AM & FM stations across the United States, as well as on shortwave and on the Sirius Satellite Radio Network (Thursdays from 3:00 p.m. — 5:00 p.m. ET). He is also a regular guest on the "Catholic Answers Live" program and Sirius Radio's "The Catholic Channel."
Patrick serves on the board of trustees of the Dominican School of Philosophy and Theology in Berkeley, CA, on the board of directors of St. Gabriel Catholic Radio, in Columbus, Ohio, and on the board of advisors for Catholics United for the Faith, Immaculate Heart Radio Network, and Catholic Scripture Study International. He authored all the original website content for CatholicsComeHome.org, where he also serves as a theologica
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November 26, 2022
A friend of mine converted to Catholicism and asked me to read this. It’s an unfortunate work. I’ve read a good variety of Catholic authors while remaining “reformed” in my theology and been exposed to some great stuff. This was among the bottom of the barrel. I don’t believe Catholicism is a cult as some do, but this book had the quality and feel to it of the literature put out by Mormons and jehovahs witnesses. Don’t waste your time.
September 13, 2024
ANOTHER HELPFUL BOOK BY THE POPULAR CATHOLIC APOLOGIST
Patrick Madrid (born 1960), is a Catholic author, TV/radio host on EWTN, apologist, and the publisher of Envoy Magazine; he has written many books such as 'Search and Rescue: How to Bring Your Family and Friends Into or Back Into the Catholic Church,' 'Answer Me This!,' 'Why is That in Tradition?,' 'A Pocket Guide to Catholic Apologetics,' 'Pope Fiction: Answers to 30 Myths and Misconceptions About the Papacy,' 'Any Friend of God's Is a Friend of Mine: A Biblical and Historical Explanation of the Catholic Doctrine of the Communion of Saints,' etc.
He also edited: Surprised by Truth: 11 Converts Give the Biblical and Historical Reasons for Becoming Catholic, Surprised By Truth 2: 15 Men and Women Give the Biblical and Historical Reasons For Becoming Catholic. (v. 2), and Surprised by Truth 3: 10 More Converts Explain the Biblical and Historical Reasons for Becoming Catholic (v. 3).
He wrote in the Introduction to this 2001 book, "The goal of this book is to help you dialogue effectively with those many sincere and good people who want to serve God and who want to obey what he has taught us in Scripture. Drawing on my experiences in apologetics and evangelization, this book was written to provide you with the basic Bible verses you will need to help others see that their understanding of Scripture, as sincere as it may be, might just possibly not be the right one. You can show them things in the Bible that many have never had pointed out to them before." (Pg. 12)
He states, "Few people deny the existence of heaven ... but there are many who deny the existence of hell. And their motivation for doing so is understandable, if not correct. The only doctrine of the Church I wish weren't true is the doctrine that hell exists. Unfortunately, the reality of hell is a fact, and try as they might, people can deny it, but eventually they will discover it's true... When Jesus spoke of the 'unquenchable fire of hell' (cf. Mark 9:43, 48) he wasn't kidding. Scripture reveals that hell is a real place where real people go. Really." (Pg. 62-63)
He notes, "In [Mt 23:9; 'call no man your father on earth'], Christ is actually warning against looking to any man as a father in the way God alone is our Father. Similarly, he warns against calling men teachers or masters in a way that is proper to God alone, our true and ultimate teacher and master... Christ did not literally mean that we cannot address others as 'Father,' even in a religious context... in the same passage below, Christ also says 'Call no man teacher.' Yet these non-Catholics call many people teacher, and commonly use the word 'doctor' which is the Latin word for 'teacher.'" (Pg. 122)
He states, "In Exodus 20[:3-5], the Lord forbids the carving of graven images for the purpose of idolatry---he does not condemn the carving of graven images per se... The context of [Ex 20:3-5] shows that Catholics are not wrong to make use of religious images and statues, so long as they are used to assist us in ordering our minds toward God and heavenly things." (Pg. 132)
He points out, "In [Mt 6:7], Christ condemns prayers that fall into the category of 'vain repetition.' He's not condemning repetition, but the fact that prayers offered to false gods ... are vain because these gods don't exist. We can be sure that Christ was not forbidding repetitious prayers per se, because, as we shall see, he himself prayed repetitiously, he gave us the greatest of all prayers, the Our Father, which he intended to pray repeatedly, and God the Holy Spirit inspired many repetitious prayers in Scripture... And finally, notice that in the Garden of Gethsemane Christ repeated the same prayer three times during his agony." (Pg. 136)
This book will also be of great interest to students of Catholic apologetics.
Patrick Madrid (born 1960), is a Catholic author, TV/radio host on EWTN, apologist, and the publisher of Envoy Magazine; he has written many books such as 'Search and Rescue: How to Bring Your Family and Friends Into or Back Into the Catholic Church,' 'Answer Me This!,' 'Why is That in Tradition?,' 'A Pocket Guide to Catholic Apologetics,' 'Pope Fiction: Answers to 30 Myths and Misconceptions About the Papacy,' 'Any Friend of God's Is a Friend of Mine: A Biblical and Historical Explanation of the Catholic Doctrine of the Communion of Saints,' etc.
He also edited: Surprised by Truth: 11 Converts Give the Biblical and Historical Reasons for Becoming Catholic, Surprised By Truth 2: 15 Men and Women Give the Biblical and Historical Reasons For Becoming Catholic. (v. 2), and Surprised by Truth 3: 10 More Converts Explain the Biblical and Historical Reasons for Becoming Catholic (v. 3).
He wrote in the Introduction to this 2001 book, "The goal of this book is to help you dialogue effectively with those many sincere and good people who want to serve God and who want to obey what he has taught us in Scripture. Drawing on my experiences in apologetics and evangelization, this book was written to provide you with the basic Bible verses you will need to help others see that their understanding of Scripture, as sincere as it may be, might just possibly not be the right one. You can show them things in the Bible that many have never had pointed out to them before." (Pg. 12)
He states, "Few people deny the existence of heaven ... but there are many who deny the existence of hell. And their motivation for doing so is understandable, if not correct. The only doctrine of the Church I wish weren't true is the doctrine that hell exists. Unfortunately, the reality of hell is a fact, and try as they might, people can deny it, but eventually they will discover it's true... When Jesus spoke of the 'unquenchable fire of hell' (cf. Mark 9:43, 48) he wasn't kidding. Scripture reveals that hell is a real place where real people go. Really." (Pg. 62-63)
He notes, "In [Mt 23:9; 'call no man your father on earth'], Christ is actually warning against looking to any man as a father in the way God alone is our Father. Similarly, he warns against calling men teachers or masters in a way that is proper to God alone, our true and ultimate teacher and master... Christ did not literally mean that we cannot address others as 'Father,' even in a religious context... in the same passage below, Christ also says 'Call no man teacher.' Yet these non-Catholics call many people teacher, and commonly use the word 'doctor' which is the Latin word for 'teacher.'" (Pg. 122)
He states, "In Exodus 20[:3-5], the Lord forbids the carving of graven images for the purpose of idolatry---he does not condemn the carving of graven images per se... The context of [Ex 20:3-5] shows that Catholics are not wrong to make use of religious images and statues, so long as they are used to assist us in ordering our minds toward God and heavenly things." (Pg. 132)
He points out, "In [Mt 6:7], Christ condemns prayers that fall into the category of 'vain repetition.' He's not condemning repetition, but the fact that prayers offered to false gods ... are vain because these gods don't exist. We can be sure that Christ was not forbidding repetitious prayers per se, because, as we shall see, he himself prayed repetitiously, he gave us the greatest of all prayers, the Our Father, which he intended to pray repeatedly, and God the Holy Spirit inspired many repetitious prayers in Scripture... And finally, notice that in the Garden of Gethsemane Christ repeated the same prayer three times during his agony." (Pg. 136)
This book will also be of great interest to students of Catholic apologetics.
January 31, 2023
I am a deacon in an Old Catholic jurisdiction. I made the switch from Roman Catholicism years ago, and spent my time here to work on discerning my vocation and seeking Holy Orders. As part of this training, we discussed this book.
I will do the right thing and point out the one thing I like about this book. If you want to know the boilerplate answers that many "apologists" give to various questions about party-line Roman Catholicism, this book is a handy guide. It does also match up some things with Scripture passages.
Now, regarding everything else:
First, to paraphrase someone else who was in our discussion group; why is it that apologists never apologize? The approach Patrick Madrid takes is that there is nothing whatsoever fallacious in the modern RCC (Roman Catholic Church). This is an instant red flag.
His answers on certain major modern topics are so simplistic, yet so pompous, as to be embarrassing. Take a look at his flimsy and overly confident approach to topics like abortion, the celibate priesthood, and most obviously, non-heterosexual sex. On the latter, he even puts weight on the well-debunked story of Lot. Also, as i am a universalist, i couldn't help but notice the apparent glee Madrid seems to take when discussing the topic of hell.
As to the usefulness beyond the boiler plat answers I mentioned at the beginning, most of his Bible sources are listed without being provided in full, and while this means we are spared having to get through his explanations regarding the applicability of said verses, we have to look elsewhere to see if we even agree with him on said applicability.
The biggest problem with this book, however, beyond the support it provides for what amounts to utter abuse of certain members of our churches, is that a member of the faith, one who truly follows Christ, is better served by seeking guidance on how best to bring God's love, God's Kingdom, into being. Not this silly hair-splitting. It seems to me that, if you have to spend so much time defending the ugly teachings of your church, that maybe that church isn't exactly interpreting the Holy Spirit correctly.
I will always love the RCC, because it was the church of my childhood, the church where I first learned about Christ, and where I first felt my calling. I love most of the theology therein, but it felt hypocritical to try to fit myself into a church that insisted on a male-only clergy, on the withholding of the Eucharist, on celibate holy orders, on an unscientific and inhumane set of assertions about LGBTQIA people (of which I am one). They didn't want me to follow my calling within their walls, and I came to realize that it wasn't the appropriate place for me anyway, given how I'd be expected to bury my faith and spent my energies defending policies that I found abhorrent. Patrick Madrid's writing is all about winning pointless debates on topics that are much more impactful than the pretzel logic he employs to defend those policies.
This book is only recommended to people who cannot bear to engage in honest criticism of the RCC, and need to be reassured that it is an institution that is free from error.
I will do the right thing and point out the one thing I like about this book. If you want to know the boilerplate answers that many "apologists" give to various questions about party-line Roman Catholicism, this book is a handy guide. It does also match up some things with Scripture passages.
Now, regarding everything else:
First, to paraphrase someone else who was in our discussion group; why is it that apologists never apologize? The approach Patrick Madrid takes is that there is nothing whatsoever fallacious in the modern RCC (Roman Catholic Church). This is an instant red flag.
His answers on certain major modern topics are so simplistic, yet so pompous, as to be embarrassing. Take a look at his flimsy and overly confident approach to topics like abortion, the celibate priesthood, and most obviously, non-heterosexual sex. On the latter, he even puts weight on the well-debunked story of Lot. Also, as i am a universalist, i couldn't help but notice the apparent glee Madrid seems to take when discussing the topic of hell.
As to the usefulness beyond the boiler plat answers I mentioned at the beginning, most of his Bible sources are listed without being provided in full, and while this means we are spared having to get through his explanations regarding the applicability of said verses, we have to look elsewhere to see if we even agree with him on said applicability.
The biggest problem with this book, however, beyond the support it provides for what amounts to utter abuse of certain members of our churches, is that a member of the faith, one who truly follows Christ, is better served by seeking guidance on how best to bring God's love, God's Kingdom, into being. Not this silly hair-splitting. It seems to me that, if you have to spend so much time defending the ugly teachings of your church, that maybe that church isn't exactly interpreting the Holy Spirit correctly.
I will always love the RCC, because it was the church of my childhood, the church where I first learned about Christ, and where I first felt my calling. I love most of the theology therein, but it felt hypocritical to try to fit myself into a church that insisted on a male-only clergy, on the withholding of the Eucharist, on celibate holy orders, on an unscientific and inhumane set of assertions about LGBTQIA people (of which I am one). They didn't want me to follow my calling within their walls, and I came to realize that it wasn't the appropriate place for me anyway, given how I'd be expected to bury my faith and spent my energies defending policies that I found abhorrent. Patrick Madrid's writing is all about winning pointless debates on topics that are much more impactful than the pretzel logic he employs to defend those policies.
This book is only recommended to people who cannot bear to engage in honest criticism of the RCC, and need to be reassured that it is an institution that is free from error.
May 20, 2017
Overall Patrick Madrid did a great job in explaining typical questions asked by other Christian denominations. He was able to explain in broad detail with evidence from the bible. This book will allows one to provide evidence using scripture. Patrick was able to cohesively compose an argument based on facts.
I highly recommend this book to ALL Christians so that they can understand the teachings behind Catholicism based on scripture. I also recommend it to those who enjoy reading about theology and religion
I highly recommend this book to ALL Christians so that they can understand the teachings behind Catholicism based on scripture. I also recommend it to those who enjoy reading about theology and religion
July 21, 2019
Small reference apologetic book
Easily read and understood with just enough references to support the topics addressed. Not overly complicated. Easy read for the common man or woman.
Easily read and understood with just enough references to support the topics addressed. Not overly complicated. Easy read for the common man or woman.
August 20, 2023
This was a great book. It was given to me by a relative when I switched from a Catholic school to a predominately Protestant one. Patrick Madrid wrote an insightful and explanatory book
January 14, 2025
This was given to me by my deacon and it was a good read and nice to have close to the Bible for reference.
June 13, 2010
Great book explaining what Christians (Catholics especially) believe based on passages from the Bible. It does a good job of highlighting all of the key Bible verses that support specific beliefs and doctrines. I gave it 4 stars because I thought it could have added a little more supporting information for some of the topics. But this is a great reference book that I'll probably refer back to quite a bit in the future.
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December 24, 2009Listed by Patrick Madrid in the Reading Plan of Search and Rescue in Phase 1 (Preliminary). ("more than 50 aspects of the Faith")
February 5, 2011
Insightful!
April 9, 2024
This book was very informative and well-written.
March 7, 2013
Informative
February 22, 2016
An excellent reference book. Describes Catholic doctrines and supports it with where it is talked about in the Bible.
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