It's a villain book unlike any you've ever seen as two of Spider-Man's deadliest foes - Hobgoblin and Carnage - take center stage! Roderick Kingsley, the one and only original Hobgoblin, is back in the suit (for real this time! We swear!) and back in New York with a brand new mission. Meanwhile, something incredible has happened to the symbiotic serial killer Carnage that will have both Cletus Kasady and you reeling! Carnage has returned to NYC , and the city will never look at him the same way again! The effects of AX IS continue in this surprising saga...don't miss it! COLLECTING: Axis: Hobgoblin 1-3, Axis: Carnage 1-3
The basic gist of the suck-y Marvel Axis crossover event was ex-Nazi The Red Skull ate Professor Xavier’s brain, with a side of schnitzel and washed it down with a hefty mug of Pilsner, gaining Charles Xavier’s immense power as a result. There’s a showdown (yawn) between the forces of good and evil and the natures of the combatants are reversed because of some crazy voodoo sh*t done by Dr. Strange and that creepy, trouble-making vixen, The Scarlet Witch.
Now the good guys are “bad” and the evil guys want to do “good” and this book focuses on the Hobgoblin and Carnage.
Carnage, former serial killer and idiot, is having a rough go at being a hero.
So he recruits (read: abducts) a local newscaster for advice on being a superhero.
It’s pretty much an uphill climb, but it’s amusing in a through-the-looking-glass-darkly kind of way.
Good luck, Cletus!
Hobgoblin, Roderick Kingsley, takes a different path: He becomes the Tony Robbins of the superhero set.
“You too can be a hero, just believe in your heroic self…and fork over $5000 in three easy installments and, if you measure up (and for an additional $5000), you can join Hob’s Heroes. You too can punch muggers in the spleen.”
Way to go, Leather Boy! Yay!
Branding is a big part of the Hobgoblin’s business strategy.
And he’s got all the angles covered.
He soon comes into conflict with the other crazier Hobgoblin, Phil Urich, who wants a piece of the action.
Bottom Line: This hasn’t gotten very much traction on Goodreads, but if you like your humor (Carnage), like your chocolate, dark (at least 72% Cacao) or you enjoy the tone of The Superior Foes of Spider-Man and offbeat super-hero humor (Hobgoblin), then this one’s for you. It’s also one of the best Axis tie-in volumes, but that’s like saying Curley Sue is your favorite Jim Belushi movie or steel-cut is your favorite type of oatmeal.
The Carnage story is pretty awful. I didn't care for it at all. It introduces a new Sin Eater, but not one that adds anything new as this one is basically some version of Ghost Rider.
The Hobgoblin story though is great. Hobgoblin has turned good, but still managed to make money off of it. I like the Hobgoblin as a super hero version of a TV pitchman. It's kind of clever and quite funny.
2025 review: I didn't reread the Hop goblin one but I did reread the Carnage one and I pretty much agree exactly what I wrote before. Dumb and super fun. go read this one.
2016 Review: The Hobgoblin story was decent, got a few chuckles, but mostly felt like a drag to finish at the end. On the flipside the Carnage story was a blast. Over the top? Silly? Yes and yes. However, it was a fucking blast to read through and I was laughing throughout. Especially his first "save" made me laugh hard. The bank as well. So overall for some great laughs check out the Carnage story! 4 for Carnage, 2 for Hobgoblin.
Takie dwie i pół gwiazdki. Pewnie jako jednemu z niewielu bardziej podobała mi się pierwsza historia, gdzie Carnage stał się Spider-Manem i jego relacje z dziennikarką. A Hobgoblin i rodzina goblinów, cóż... problemem była słaba znajomość postaci, które przez komiks się przewinęły.
A compilation of two entertaining miniseries derived from Spidey villains, set in the margins of abysmal personality-swap crossover Axis. The Carnage story sees the symbiote-enhanced redneck serial killer try to be good, yet somehow unable to quit with the destruction and mutilation; it's funny, but hampered by following close behind Superior Spider-Man and Scarlet Spider, which similarly riffed on the schmuck Parker by having formerly villainous derivative characters try to follow his lead. The Hobgoblin story, though...having spent a while running supervillain franchises, Roderick Kingsley is now making superhero identities available via a pyramid scheme. But has he genuinely turned good, or just realised it's easier to make money if you feign complicity with the law? And I do like a bit of satire of runaway capitalism in my superhero comics.
SO: A brief summary of the context in which this takes place. AXIS was, in short, an event where a bunch of people's brains got screwy and a bunch of people's morals got switched. Like I read Mighty Avengers awhile back and as part of that event Luke Cage basically became an exaggerated version of a capitalist, etc etc. In regards to the issues compiled here, Carnage gets mind swapped into wanting to be a good guy instead of an insane psycho murderer he's been his entire life, while the Hobgoblin decides to instead make himself marketable as a good guy who's going to make it cool and popular to be a hero.
And it's good! Carnage genuinely wants to improve himself but he knows LITERALLY nothing about what it means to be good. At the very beginning of the run his idea of helping a woman in danger is punching the man endangering her so hard that one of his eyes pop out of his head. And then he slices another guy's arm off at the wrist. It's a very violent story as he tries to learn but it also has a surprisingly emotional core to know how deeply his mind has been affected. He even tries things like desperately recontextualizing his first murder into a motivation to be a good guy since many hero origin stories being with the death of a loved one. Unfortunately the person he goes to for advice on how to be a good person kind of backfires and makes him feel like a kicked puppy kind of character. Which is hard to say, considering how insane of a remorseless psycho murderer he's always been. The finale also has him essentially do the equivalent of wiping the slate clean in order to truly become a good guy... but that didn't exactly last long. Secret Wars happened shortly after and while I haven't read Axis to know if he was back to a villain before that happened he was definitely reset post Secret Wars.
Carnage is a nice guy when he wants to be, though. A little overzealous, which brings me back to the puppy comparison. Rambunctious, but ultimately enthused about the idea of doing good. Except he's also extremely capable of murdering people. 3 issues long, but fun!
The Hobgoblin issues on the other hand, require a bit more setup to enjoy properly. If you haven't read the Superior Spider-Man run you may be lost on some of the character's motivations. Luckily I have so I knew all about the rivalry between Phil Urich and the Hobgoblin, their relationship with Lily, etc etc.
And those 3 issues are off the wall bananas. While intrinsically less approachable because of that required context (Carnage, by contrast only requires the knowledge of what Axis did to his mind to enjoy) I honestly think I enjoyed them more. The first is a bit of a slow burn showing Hobgoblin basically turning his name and his branding into a lifestyle and giving the in-universe equivalent of Ted Talks (Called Ned Talks) about how to be a superhero. He's essentially a more comedy version of Batman for these issues as he consistently outwits the Goblin Knight at every turn and completely defeats him with little effort. He has contingency plan after contingency plan for literally anything that happens and it's ridiculously fun to read.
And it goes even further! Hobgoblin's merchandising goes so far that the second issue even features mid-issue PSA's about saying no to bullying, and even a fake ad styled after the Hostess Pie ads of old. This is genuinely one of the most fun things I've read this year and makes this entire 6 issue package extremely worth picking up. Read Superior Spider-Man first (or at least the arc with the Goblins) to get the proper context to enjoy those issues, but the Carnage issues can be read with minimal introduction. It's weird that the tie-ins for an event would join the list of my absolute all-time favorites, but this is definitely a series I loved to death.
Axis to kolejny event Marvela, który oprócz pewnych zmian fabularnych istotnych dla całego uniwersum Ziemi 616 wprowadza cały szereg pomniejszych tytułów, które jakoś tam korelują z tym, co zadzia��o się ze złoczyńcami i bohaterami podczas wspomnianego wydarzenia. Ten tie-in daje nam szansę spojrzeć na losy dwóch sztandarowych przeciwników Spider-mana: Carnage'a i Hobgoblina.
Także Carnage pragnie być teraz równie dobry, jak Spider-man, choć wychodzi mu to różnorako, a dawny, oryginalny Hobgoblin, Roderick Kingsley, staje się mistrzem telemarketingu i sprzedaje 'formuły' traktujące o tym, jak to odmienić siebie na lepsze, opierając się na doświadczeniu ex-opryszka. Dodatkowo kreuje całkowicie nowych bohaterów, sprzedając naiwniakom różne fanty.
Bardziej sobie cenię pierwszą część tego tomu, którą poświęcono bardziej krwawemu antagoniście Pajęczaka. A to dlatego, że bawi mnie ta nieporadność ex-złoczyńcy, który na bazie prób i błędów sprawdza co dobrze jest robić, a co źle, aby stać się PRAWDZIWYM bohaterem. Jego relacja z pewną dziennikarką też jest nietypowa. A do tego Zjadacz Grzechów i bezpardonowość tej historii. Bowiem jak jest Carnage, jest i krew. Dużo krwi.
Historia z Hobgoblinem mocno mnie rozczarowała. Akcja jest tu w ilościach śladowych, całość jest przegadana i bardzo trudno mi uwierzyć w naiwność tłumu, która tak ochoczo kupuje coraz to głupsze wyroby marketingowe. Satyra na konsumpcjonizm? Pewnie tak, ale sam Hobgoblin, mimo iż jest tutaj stylizowany na kogoś charyzmatycznego i inteligentnego, nie potrafił przykuć mojej uwagi. Już bliżej mi było do nowego Króla Goblinów, a ex-Hobgoblina, któremu ten oryginalny ochoczo 'wypożyczał' wizerunek za kasę.
Wprawdzie obie trzy-zeszytowe opowieści nie należą do najlepszych to jednak wolę symbionta. Zwłaszcza, że i w warstwie wizualnej Carnage wygrywa. Kreska użyta przez Peralta jest brudna, a kolory Beredo podsycają tylko ten mrok. Cenię sobie prace Rodrigueza nad Hobgoblinem, który ładnie nawiązuje stylem do tego co prezentował TM-Semic przed laty, ale historia Shinicka jest znacznie mniej atrakcyjna niż Carnage od Spearsa.
Zatem czy warto mieć tą pozycję na swojej półce? Jako hołd dla starych, dobrych czasów sprawdzi się na pewno. Dla fanów postaci perełka, która broni się też sama, bo nie potrzeba tu znać eventu. Dla wyjadaczy nie musi już być czymś dobrym, zwłaszcza że rynek zalewa teraz znaczna ilość komiksów zwyczajnie lepszych. Średnia pozycja towarzysząca średniej jakości wydarzeniu komiksowym.
Two of the villains that were... what do we called it... reversed? Oppositted? Axised? Anyways two bad guys that are now good were Carnage and Hobgoblin. And this volume shows us what they did after they left the island in the main book.
Carnage is.... a crazy person. So even a Carnage that is trying to be good - is bad. The story is about him wanting this lady... who is no saint either... to teach him how to be good, meanwhile she manipulates him into doing her bad stuff. I mean this is a pretty negative book and the attempt at comedy kind of fell flat for me most times.
Hobgoblin has decided to use his "brand" to franchise himself as basically heroes for hire. The Javier Martinez art was fantastic. The story was entertaining and had some funny moments. I think this story is definetley the highlight.
Overall, pretty inconsequential but if you're a fan of either one, then you'll probably like this.
So, yeah...AXIS was not great but this was worse. Carnage and Hobgoblin are both portrayed differently, and I don't mean just the effects of AXIS. Both stories had a decent comedic element to it but neither story mattered in any way. The art was good in both books. Overall, this collection was something I can't imagine a ton of people wanted.
These two companion pieces to the Axis event are both rather different, while also being a bit different from how the characters seemed in the event, itself. Both are sort of fish out of water stories, where two villains suddenly have the urge to be heroes, and to do good, but without everything about them having changed.
The Carnage story finds him trying to be a hero, but not quite escaping from the fact that he is a sociopath who doesn't see an issue with killing people who irritate him. He tries to be a hero, and enlists the help of a reporter to tell him how, only it turns out she isn't a great teacher. It was a fun take, though it didn't match up very well with the heroic end that Carnage finds in the main event.
The Hobgoblin story ties in fairly well with Spider-Man continuity, and focuses on Hobgoblin's greed as his basic nature, taking his shtick of licensing out minor super-villain identities to the other side, and licensing super-hero identities, instead, in a pyramid scheme, self-help kind of way. It is an interesting story, and it highlights what makes Hobgoblin so dangerous. It seemed a bit fast for him to get his own memorial day, but if you just go with it, it is an interesting story.
Overall, these were both reasonably good stories that just didn't seem to fit in with the rest of the event that spawned them.
I always feel like I have to justify myself a little when my review comes far enough off the Goodreads average.
Here, I think the thing that sold me is the Hobgoblin half of the book. The Carnage half was mildly amusing but there wasn't much there beyond the premise. The Hobgoblin half was pretty cute in that the contrast between the visual and the story was so strong and that the Hobgoblin functioned almost exactly the same good as evil. It was wildly implausible how quick he was able to make the shift as a large organization. But I guess that was necessary for the story.
The Hobgoblin story was mediocre, and I enjoyed it, specifically on the matter of the new Queen Cat, and how it follows the aftermath of Superior Spider-Man. The Carnage storyline, however, was a masterpiece, and a funny one too at that. It was interesting to see how Carnage had tried his best to be a hero, and made the Axis event worth something. I would recommend this book for any fans of Spider-Man's villains.
I really enjoyed the Carnage half of this book! His "learning" to be a hero is both awkward and histerical. Very short though. The Hobgoblin half was just not my thing. I understand what they were trying to do with all the commercialization stuff, but I just didn't find it funny at all. Carnage 5 stars, Hobgoblin 2 Stars. Overall 3.5 stars.
Don't read a lot of Spider-Man, but I enjoyed this. I thought the Carnage story was more straight forward, but the Hobgoblin one had a bit more depth to it. The art for both was excellent.
The Carnage story is great. It's funny, the art is stylized and has a very entertaining tone. The hobgoblin however was lackluster and took me days to force myself to finish