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The Great Game #3

Future Indefinite

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Foretold to help the beleaguered natives of Nextdoor overthrow their oppressive godlike rulers, Edward Exeter must destroy the god known as Zath, whose source of strength is in human sacrifice

334 pages, Hardcover

First published January 1, 1997

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Dave Duncan

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Originally from Scotland, Dave Duncan lived all his adult life in Western Canada, having enjoyed a long career as a petroleum geologist before taking up writing. Since discovering that imaginary worlds were more satisfying than the real one, he published more than 60 novels, mostly in the fantasy genre, but also young adult, science fiction, and historical.

He wrote at times under the pseudonym Sarah B. Franklin (but only for literary purposes) and Ken Hood (which is short for "D'ye Ken Whodunit?")

His most successful works were fantasy series: The Seventh Sword, A Man of His Word and its sequel, A Handful of Men, and seven books about The King’s Blades. His books have been translated into 15 languages, and of late have been appearing in audiobook format as well.

He and Janet were married in 1959. He is survived by her, one son and two daughters, as well as four grandchildren.

He was both a founding and honorary lifetime member of SFCanada, and a member of the CSFFA Hall of Fame.

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Author 2 books142 followers
June 21, 2012
Originally published on my blog here in February 2000.

The culmination of Duncan's Great Game trilogy, Future Indefinite tells how Edward Exeter does what he has been prophesied as doing, what he has vowed never to do: challenging the god of death himself. This leads his friends to believe that he has lost his mind. In the magical system of Duncan's world, the easiest way to collect power (mana) is through the sacrificial suffering of others. This is the way in which Zath has managed, as a psychopath becoming tutelary deity of death, to collect mana fast enough to become a danger even to the ancient established Pentatheon, who have been acquiring power for millennia. The only way that Exeter can hope to win is by becoming a greater monster, and after he does so, an even more significant threat to the Pentatheon. They, of course, are keen to remove Zath, but not at the expense of losing their own position.

Future Indefinite is necessarily (for the sake of suspense) told from the point of view of those who know Edward rather than by 'the Liberator' himself. They are desperately trying to work out whether or not he is sane, whether he has come up with some way around the difficulties that led him to take his vow, whether he has any chance of winning, and whether the Pentatheon can do anything about it. The reader, too, is not supposed to know these things until the end of the novel.

The trilogy as a whole is excellent, ringing the changes on one of the most venerable basic plots in the fantasy genre, the messianic hero. (Prominent examples include J.R.R. Tolkien's Lord of the Rings, Stephen Donaldson's Thomas Covenant series and David Eddings' Belgariad, just to choose among the most popular works in the genre.) Like the heroes of many of these stories, the career of Edward Exeter is modelled on that of Jesus Christ. Unlike most of them, Exeter consciously follows this model, as he preaches a new ethics and a challenge to the established religious order. The closest parallel is perhaps John Barth's Giles Goat-Boy, though Duncan escapes the accusations or irreverence and blasphemy that have been levelled at Barth simply by omitting the element of parody. The unpleasantness of the religion imposed on Nextdoor by those seeking to exploit the way that magic works there is an important part of the novels, and helps to raise them above the general level of fantasy. The third is also the best written and most gripping of the series, which as a whole could become one of the classics of the genre.
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January 24, 2013
A good way to end the series. The ending isn't bad and leaves a bit to the imagination which I liked. I enjoyed the series and of the three this was the best book.
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Author 2 books
July 11, 2012
This is a review of all three books. I have re-read this trilogy a few times and still enjoy it like new each time. I have divided my review into two sections: Plot & Setting and Characters & Character Relationships.

Plot & Setting

The Great Game is a story of how human beings travelled through dimensions to another world called Nextdoor. On Nextdoor the humans discovered they could collect magical energy known as mana by feeding on the faith and prayers of Nextdoor’s natives. The humans then set themselves up as the great five gods – Visek, Karzon, Eltiana, Astina and Tion – and proceeded to rule the natives with their twisted ways. Then someone on Nextdoor foretells the coming of Edward Exeter from Earth, the Liberator. Edward will bring death to the God of Death, Zath, and liberate the people of Nextdoor. The story starts with Edward Exeter being charged with murder in England shortly before the Great World War is about to start. Once Edward is pulled into Nextdoor, he attempts to return home to do his part in the world war. Eventually Edward decides to fulfill his duty in Nextdoor as the Liberator.

My summary is only the tip of the iceberg that is The Great Game’s plot. There is so much detail put into the world of Nextdoor that it’s difficult to keep track of it all. Thankfully Duncan is skilled at immersing readers into his world. Even if I can’t remember where all the different Vales are, he gives enough detail to understand the plot. Even the politics behind the deities of Nextdoor are easy to follow. Rather than feel like I have to learn all about the world, the Vales, the deities and the different life forms, as I read The Great Game, I felt as though I already understood all these details and there is nothing new at all to learn.

From the beginning in Past Imperative to the end in Future Indefinite, the plot left me guessing about which way things will turn. Duncan drew me into his world and kept me interested right through to the end. If I had the time, I could probably inhale each book in a day since each one is so gripping.

Characters & Character Relationships

Edward Exeter

Edward is a classic example of a Duncan male protagonist. He is handsome, intelligent, kind, morally just, and a romantic. There is nothing wrong with these qualities, but my only concern with Duncan is that almost every protagonist is the same. That being said, I still felt enough for Edward that I cheered for him.

When Edward first comes to Nextdoor, he is reluctant about becoming the Liberator and just wants to return to England to do his part for King and Country. Edward's father raised him to be tolerant and respectful, and I could see how he wouldn’t want to interfere with the already established societies of Nextdoor. All of the above are admirable qualities in anyone. Yet, at the same time, Edward's unwillingness to face his destiny annoyed me a little too. He knew he had the power to change the fates of the natives and he still wanted to do nothing. Even after he got home and saw what a waste of life the war was, Edward still hammered on about doing his part. Julian, who had lived through the war, was not enough to convince him that maybe he was needed elsewhere, for greater things. I think nobody ever expected the Great War to be so awful, but once he saw the war I would think he would think twice about rushing off to join it. On the one hand, Edward seems like a very loyal patriot. On the other hand, I think he seems pig-headed.

Edward is more featured in the first book. In the second and onward he becomes more of a catalyst and I can see his impact on the lives of the other characters. By the third book he is shown from different perspectives. When I think of him as a catalyst for the other characters, the lack of any real character development does not bother me as much. But as a protagonist, I find him a bit lacking. In the end, I felt more like he just wanted to fulfill his destiny and get on with it rather than he cared about the people he was preaching to.

Still, Edward is human. It’s nice to see that he does have flaws of which he acknowledges.


Eleal Singer/Actor/HighPriestess

Next to Dosh, Eleal has some of the worst luck in the series. Edward has his wits and his mana to help him survive through the difficult situations that get thrown his way, along with the assistance of some of the deities of Nextdoor, but Eleal rarely gets such help. What I enjoyed about her character is that she acts like a 12 year old. She's nosey, impetuous, selfish, and wants love and attention. I generally find that for the purposes of a story, a child is turned into someone sweet, kind, patient and so on. Eleal acts like a brat, but I care about her anyway. She does fuss over her deformed leg, but she keeps trying anyway.

I felt really bad for her when she was forced into prostitution. After the first book, she disappears until the third book, where she ended up in prostitution anyway. She thought by helping Edward and serving her deity Tion that her leg would be healed, but Edward ran out on her and Tion never healed her leg. I really appreciated the fact she was bitter over the incident like any human being.

To me, it's refreshing to see a female character like Eleal. She grew up with feelings I would expect from someone in her circumstances. In the end, she becomes the high priestess of Edward's new church, which was something I respected. Who would know the cruelty of the world better? I think people who have suffered have the potential to become some of the kindest people to exist, since they know what it feels to suffer. I got to watch Eleal grow up as a real human being instead of a saint. It was something I truly enjoyed.


Alice Prescott/Pearson

Alice is a character I have mixed feelings over because of her relationship with Edward, but I tried to see it from her point of view.

Alice had the potential to be considered a horrible, two-faced harlot. Instead, she has a good, kind heart, and shows genuine concern over Edward, her cousin. She is aware of his feelings toward her, but she treats him like a brother and stays true to her lover D'Arcy. The odd time D'Arcy's wife is mentioned Alice calls her a bitch, but that is to be expected of a mistress. The reader does not receive a lot of information about D'Arcy except that Alice loves him and not Edward. Alice consistently rejects Edward's advances and tries to make it obvious that they will never be a couple.

I did get annoyed with her in the second and third books. In the second book, when Edward returns from Nextdoor, Alice gets jealous and moody over hearing about a girl that Edward cared about on Nextdoor. Was Alice acting like a protective older sister, or were her feelings always mixed about Edward? I could understand if was something that had been hinted at in the first book, but she was always adamant about her love for D'Arcy. So why start to act jealous after having made her point, especially after Edward found out about D'Arcy?

I am torn over Alice in the third book. After D'Arcy died, Alice realizes what had mattered more to D'Arcy. This lead up to Alice falling for Edward. Yet was it because D'Arcy had died, her rebound boyfriend/husband Terry died shortly after, and then all she had left was Edward? Or did she have feelings for him all along? I find her feelings to be dubious. That aside, I was happy when by the end of the book, Edward is alive and Alice could be with him as Edward had always wanted. Even if I doubt her feelings by the end of the novel, she could probably learn to love Edward for who he is. Maybe she made some mistakes, or maybe she had always had feelings for Edward and was just slow to realize it, but who knows?


Dosh Houseboy/Envoy

One of my pet peeves is when gay men are portrayed to be little else beyond flamboyant comic relief. Yet when Duncan writes for a gay man, I can actually see the character’s emotions, troubles and personalities beyond a stereotype.

Dosh is probably better described as bisexual. His luck is worse than Eleal's; while Eleal had a family at some point, Dosh has always been on his own. He grew up with the Nextdoor equivalent of gypsies, and learned to do anything he could to survive. He learned how to lie and is a prostitute himself.

When Edward becomes the only person to treat Dosh with kindness and respect, I think it gave rise to Dosh developing sincere feelings for him. I think at one point Edward said to Dosh and a girl that they both thought they were in love with him, but it was just his power as a stranger on Nextdoor. I had wondered the same at one point or anything, but how could Dosh ever figure out the difference?

I really enjoyed how he was portrayed. As human as everyone else, and in the end, out of all the people who cared about Edward, Dosh was the one to sacrifice himself to save Edward's life. It is never completely confirmed, but it seems obvious that Tion considered Dosh's wish to sacrifice his life for Edward, so when Edward was laid out to die in Karzon's temple in Tharg, Tion switched Dosh with Edward, allowing Edward to live. It was nice to see that Dosh may have started wretched and twisted as life made him, but he overcame the difficulties life had thrown at him, much like Eleal, and he cared about Edward enough to sacrifice his life.

Julian Smedley

I thought Julian Smedley was a perfect character who lived through the horrors of war. Julian was understandably a shell-shocked wreck when he first showed up in the story. He had lost his hand for the supposed great cause of the war. Julian crosses over with Edward, to get away from England. He eventually overcomes his shell-shock and goes on to join the organization known as The Service on Nextdoor, who are people from Earth who have crossed over and started their own religion in Nextdoor. It's nice to see that he is not a blindly loyal friend either. When Edward does some questionable things, Julian actually calls him out on it. As the wise Dumbledore once said, it’s hard to stand up to our enemies and even harder to stand up to our friends, but Julian did so. In the end he comes to understand Edward's motives, and joins him and carries on Edward's version of the religion of One True God.


Overall, this is an excellent science fiction/fantasy story with a well thought-out plot and believable characters. Whether you are a long-time fan of Duncan, the genre or are new to both, I highly recommend this series. It’s an easy, enjoyable read that will still be enjoyable after many re-reads.
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352 reviews2 followers
January 27, 2021
Somewhat disappointing. The plot points themselves made sense but the actual pacing was uneven, jerky. I think part of it is due to the fact that the series needed an extra book but didn't really justify an extra volume.
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January 8, 2021
I want to re-read this series now that I have fully read the Bible.
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578 reviews45 followers
April 30, 2008
This book started out with the same promise as the two previous books in the series. Where the other two books followed Edward's story through Edward's eyes, this follows his story largely through the eyes of secondary characters. While the approach to storytelling is interesting, and allows for a mystery at the end, I think that the characterization suffers for it.

The story itself is interesting, and the ideas are fascinating. The book talks a lot about the power of sacrifice, and particularly self-sacrifice. I'm not terribly fond of the portrayal of religion in the book. And the climax is precisely anti-climactic, since the moment of climax itself is presented in retrospect.
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March 30, 2010
"It was most fortuitously, was it not, that I was given assignment on the advance team to this campsite and were thus identifying you?"

I love Dommie, he's been great the whole series through. What an enjoyable series it has been, as well. A thrilling take on magic and a most delightful way of weaving two worlds together. The ending was a little predictable, but it didn't suffer from that fact. The anticipation and curiosity for the details coupled with the breathtakingly vivid characters make that small issue a complete zero.
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633 reviews51 followers
January 7, 2014
All the elements of a good story combine here in entertaining and even thought provoking ways with enough travel and action and characters moving on and off stage to keep things interesting the whole way through.

An exploration from a variety of perspectives on the tension between action and intention. Of whether a righteous god would create a world where believers engaged in trench warfare against each other and other various questions like that with rabbits as cowboy mounts, where dragons eat hay and where tea is good on both sides of the coin.
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875 reviews12 followers
August 30, 2015
Enjoyed this series very much.
205 reviews1 follower
May 22, 2016
better than the second. the ending dragged out a bit but was acceptable in the end
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