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Olemisen todellisuus: Gurdjieffin neljäs tie

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Ihminen on itselleen arvoitus. Hän janoaa Olemista, kaipaa kestävyyttä, pysyvyyttä, absoluuttisuutta – hän kaipaa olemista. Osallisuus syvempään todellisuuteen herää kysymyksenä: ”Kuka minä olen – kuka olen tässä maailmassa?” Tämä on polun ensimmäinen askel.

Tämä kirja pohjautuu G. I. Gurdjieffin läheisimmän seuraajan muistikirjoihin ja tarjoaa uutta oivallusta hänen henkiseen opetukseensa – gnosiksen tiehen tai “olemisen tietoon”, jota on välitetty eteenpäin aina kaukaisista antiikin ajoista asti. Olemisen totuus on kokonainen ja ainutlaatuisen arvovaltainen opas suuren opettajan ideoihin ja menetelmiin.

Gurdjieff arvosti perinteisiä uskonnollisia harjoituksia, joiden hän katsoi kuuluvan kolmeen yleiseen kategoriaan: fakiirin tiehen, joka liittyy fyysisen kehon hallitsemiseen, munkin tiehen, joka pohjautuu uskoon ja tunteeseen ja joogin tiehen, joka keskittyy mielen kehittämiseen. Gurdjieff esitti opetuksensa Neljäntenä tienä, joka yhdistää näiden kolmen tien eri puolet yhteen itseä koskevan tiedon polkuun. Neljännellä tiellä edistyminen tapahtuu tietoisten ponnistusten kautta kohti sellaista ajattelun ja tunteen laatua, joka saa aikaan uudenlaisen kyvyn rakastaa ja nähdä asioita selkeästi.

430 pages, Paperback

First published January 1, 2010

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About the author

Jeanne de Salzmann

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Jeanne de Salzmann was born in 1889 in Reims, France and raised in Geneva, Switzerland. She married Alexandre de Salzmann, a well-known Russian painter, in 1912 and returned to his home in Tiflis in the Caucasus mountain region of southern Russia. She met Gurdjieff in 1919 in Tiflis, became committed to his work, and remained close to him until his death in Paris thirty years later.

Before he died Gurdjieff charged Mme. de Salzmann to live to be "over 100" in order to establish his teaching. He left her all his rights with respect to his writings and dance exercises called the "Movements."

During the next forty years she arranged for publication of his books and preservation of the Movements, and established Gurdjieff centers to practice the teaching in Paris, New York, and London, as well as Caracas, Venezuela.

Mme. de Salzmann died at the age of 101 in Paris in 1990.

{taken from realityofbeing.org/about}

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Profile Image for Dean Paradiso.
329 reviews66 followers
November 21, 2014
I'm giving this book three stars. I was hoping for more from this book, probably due to the write-ups and recommendations (mainly by Foundation followers and Fourth Wayers). I really wanted to enjoy the book, and took time reading it. As others have commented, it is a 'hard slog' to get though. Mainly because it is composed of the author's personal diary entries, and in no particular plan or aim. The book is largely impractical (again to my disappointment), and in some parts drones on about one's inability to 'do', to focus, to gather attention, to unify the centres, to become more conscious etc. Most of the ideas have been done before (and better) in Gurdjieff's own books, or Ouspensky's.
The positives (and why I will keep the book) relate to how the author writes from her own perspective, and in that the book could easily be read aloud, with some effect happening in the reader. Her experiences are universal, and the sufferings detailed are all of our sufferings.
There are a couple of unique practices (but very few) given, mainly in gathering attention (such as in focusing on body parts and intoning 'I am' etc.). Some nice work is written about self-observation and self-remembering (and the need for it). However, unlike Ouspensky's work, the actual detail in performing this is left out, and rather the author's subjective thoughts about how difficult it is etc. etc. are written (again in diary style).
There's a bit of a departure from Gurdjieff's standard set of teachings here, and the book drifts into Nondual/Buddhist/Advaita type philosophy in more than a few spots. Some of Gurdjieff's ideas about needing to form a 'soul', or voluntary suffering, sneak in here and there, but there's also the idea given here that there is a Presence available now, from the start (which clearly goes against what Gurdjieff taught in a few places). There are more examples of where she has gone off into her own philosophy throughout the book, which is fine, though probably needs to be acknowledged by some of her students (rather than the usual story of how the author was the 'appointed heir and custodian' of Gurdjieff's work).
Overally, a good read for those familiar with the "Work", though don't expect anything earth-shattering here that can't be found elsewhere.
Profile Image for David Guy.
Author 7 books41 followers
November 11, 2011
Because of a friend, and because of the work of Jacob Needleman, I've become interested in the GurdIjieff work, which was one of the "new religions" of the 20th century. I really think these folks just discover the old truths and then try to re-invent the wheel, when they could easily just go back to the existing traditions. Gurdjieff as far as I can tell was just trying to teach presence, and he could have done what the Zen teachers did and just have people sit and stare at the wall. Jeanne de Salzmann was one of his leading disciples, and apparently had his child, which is taking discipleship to a whole new level. A number of people—including Needleman—think she was a realized person. This book was created from the notebooks she kept, and it isn’t clear that she ever intended them to be published. She seems to be trying to describe what one learns from awareness practice, so the book is extremely abstract, though interesting. I read it in small doses. At one point she more or less gives the instructions for zazen, including the way we hold the cosmic mudra. I did find her book quite interesting, and well written, but she’s essentially trying to describe something that is ineffable, and that ain’t easy.
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25 reviews14 followers
May 26, 2012
This is Reality ... this is by far the best book gurdijeff i have ever read. no doubt it was by his secretary.
Find out who you are. find out who " i am" is
there is something gentile and profound about this book
for 4 weeks i held unto it carefully exploring each sentence like a labyrinth. it was mind blowing to say the least and i have read a LOT of books on gurdijeff . next to the fourth way and the man himself this is a highly recommended book
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9 reviews
April 30, 2021
This is beyond!

Do not believe any of the comments you see here. Get a sample of this book and read it yourself and then decide if it is for you or not..Never seen such a book that tells the difficulties of awakening so eloquently..
This book has given me so much happiness! Thank you!
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12 reviews1 follower
December 25, 2022
He leído y votado "El cuarto camino de Gurdjieff" escrito por Jorge Blaschke. No está en la base de datos de Goodreads así que he buscado uno lo más parecido posible. Es una pena que hayan quitado la opción de añadir libros a Goodreads.
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61 reviews19 followers
December 31, 2016
The only reason I read this book is because I am trying to understand Pamela L. Travers's life time fascination with the Gurdjieff's teachings. It took me forever to finish this book written by Gurdjieff's most fervent student and follower Jeanne de Salzmann.

There was nothing enjoyable about the book. Do not waste time reading it.

Although, I now have an idea about what might have motivated Pamela L. Travers to join the ranks of Gurdjieff's followers but that I will explore in a future post on the marypoppinseffect.com blog.

Again stay away from this book. Total nonsense, an amalgamation of different eastern spiritual teachings with some extravagant twists, presented in a negative an unsupportive of the self way.

Profile Image for Mark Esping.
Author 1 book
July 24, 2016
I read this rather slowly. It has a framework which presents the information in many various parts or segments of a system. It gives several exercises, one of which was quite revealing for me. Train the attention to notice sensation. I will now go back and reread a reading per week. Interesting guidance.
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1,585 reviews26 followers
July 26, 2012
An entirely decent companion to Gurdjieff's writings. My only complaint is that De Salzmann is, at times, slightly less interesting to read than Gurdjieff himself; I found myself picking up his writings at times instead of paying attention to reading hers.
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June 24, 2011
An amazon reviewer said that Eckhart Tolle's "The Power of Now is a good primer. This is the the advanced course. " I'm definitely interested in reading this book.
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67 reviews
February 3, 2013
This reminds me allot of krishnamurti's works. I guess all swami talk sounds the same... Absolve ego, ascend self,stop thinking, repeat lol. All jokes aside it was an ok book, repetitive but ok.
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28 reviews3 followers
March 24, 2019
This was like a very dry theoretical lecture in the Work. She gives very little to the reader, if indeed it is her writing.
Profile Image for Fred Jenkins.
Author 2 books25 followers
May 12, 2022
It is hard to review this; it is not what I expected from the title. It is certainly not a presentation of Gurdjieff, although his influence permeates much of it. You can find references to the Law of Three and the Law of Seven, etc. But much of it has the flavor of Zen, some of Dzogchen. There are better places to learn about that, and from actual teachers in those lineages. If you are interested primarily in the teachings of Gurdjieff, you are well advised to stick to the works of Mr. G himself and Mr. Ouspensky.

I would be surprised if Madame de Salzmann would have published the book in this form herself. It is mostly excerpts from personal journals, much about her own experiences in using Eastern meditation techniques, edited by anonymous persons. There is some good content, but it is a disappointment.
Profile Image for Chelsea.
6 reviews
July 17, 2024
This book felt like a spiritual test. It's a very dense read with many pearls of wisdom throughout and yet, it feels largely directionless. Part of me thinks that the meandering labyrinth of ideas creates a purposeful energetic barrier that keeps the wrong people from reading it. The other part of me thinks there has to be a better way to present these ideas for those uninterested in going on an aimless labyrinthian journey. And another higher part of my consciousness thinks that my experience of this book is based largely on a projection of my own insecurity of needing to get to the point as soon as possible or everyone will be bored and irritated.
Anyway, four stars because I still think this is a valuable read.
Profile Image for Chad Warren.
6 reviews1 follower
July 22, 2024
If you want to read in 258 pages what could be said in one, this is the book for you. Have you ever meditated? (Sitting still for awhile while doing as little as possible.) Not good enough for you? Ok, then listen to someone strain and not achieve anything but frustration attempting to balance the body, emotions, sensations and feelings in order to find the true self who was a disciple of Gurdjieff work on this book he didn't finish.
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2 reviews
October 1, 2019
Es uno de los mejores libros para quienes llevan a la práctica las ideas G.I. Gurdjieff.
El nivel de descripción y detalle de experiencias que brinda la Sra. de Salzmann es algo que no se encuentra en otra parte.
No se trata de una lectura fácil, debido a la intensidad que de cada párrafo y la atención que requiere del lector.
Profile Image for Anthony O'Connor.
Author 5 books34 followers
May 8, 2021
Pretty good book, but just a book

There are a lot of extraordinary claims. Some of it if taken literally is obviously nonsense. But who knows some of it might even be true. In which case the book, any book, is but a flutter of a suggestion.
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401 reviews13 followers
February 25, 2018
Difficult reading for a person that does not have experience with Jeanne De Salzmann.
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February 17, 2023
Inner insights

One of the inner circle details her understandings. There are instructions to be uncovered. The Work is clear in her writing.
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69 reviews
December 30, 2024
This one makes you dream of a dancing practice
91 reviews
February 5, 2023
One of the best books that I've read; elucidates the workings of the mind, and the many struggles to calm it to remain in a neutral state - to elucidate yourself.
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2,379 reviews67 followers
April 6, 2020
Transformative wisdom that is mostly way too advanced for me.
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