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A Matter of When
Wealth. Fame. Gold record. Hookers and Cocaine front man Henri Lafontaine has it all… including a control freak manager, band members who smile as they sharpen blades for his back, and last but damn well not least, a fan out to steal his heart. Literally. Trying to write hit songs and plan a comeback in the midst of the hi-fi white noise of LA feels more like watching his world implode, until he’s offered a month in the Colorado Rockies for vocal coaching.
Sebastian Unger’s rich, classically trained tenor inspires wicked thoughts. More than a pretty choir boy, he cracks the whip without hesitation to drive tattooed bad-boy Henri to give his all to his music. Working, fighting, and finally establishing a fragile peace, they find inspiration and perhaps more in each other. But the clock is ticking. Time will pull Henri back to the grit and gold of LA’s mean streets and fame machine, while Sebastian must return to the opera circuit, where a mysterious man known as “the patron” holds far too much sway. Only the trust they've built on a handful of notes bridges their two worlds... and shields them from malice.
Sebastian Unger’s rich, classically trained tenor inspires wicked thoughts. More than a pretty choir boy, he cracks the whip without hesitation to drive tattooed bad-boy Henri to give his all to his music. Working, fighting, and finally establishing a fragile peace, they find inspiration and perhaps more in each other. But the clock is ticking. Time will pull Henri back to the grit and gold of LA’s mean streets and fame machine, while Sebastian must return to the opera circuit, where a mysterious man known as “the patron” holds far too much sway. Only the trust they've built on a handful of notes bridges their two worlds... and shields them from malice.
236 pages, Kindle Edition
First published September 15, 2014
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Eden Winters
86 books671 followersYou will know Eden Winters by her distinctive white plumage and exuberant cry of “Hey, y’all!” in a Southern US drawl so thick it renders even the simplest of words unrecognizable. Watch out, she hugs!
Driven by insatiable curiosity, she possibly holds the world’s record for curriculum changes to the point that she’s never quite earned a degree but is a force to be reckoned with at Trivial Pursuit.
She’s trudged down hallways with police detectives, learned to disarm knife-wielding bad guys, and witnessed the correct way to blow doors off buildings. Her e-mail contains various snippets of forensic wisdom, such as “What would a dead body left in a Mexican drug tunnel look like after six months?” In the process of her adventures, she has written over thirty gay romance novels, lost count of novellas and short stories, has won Rainbow Awards, was a Lambda Awards Finalist, and lives in terror of authorities showing up at her door to question her Internet searches.
When not putting characters in dangerous situations she’s cosplaying for children's charities or hanging out at the farm being a mother, grandmother, and vegetarian.
Her natural habitats are hardware stores and on the backs of motorcycles.
Driven by insatiable curiosity, she possibly holds the world’s record for curriculum changes to the point that she’s never quite earned a degree but is a force to be reckoned with at Trivial Pursuit.
She’s trudged down hallways with police detectives, learned to disarm knife-wielding bad guys, and witnessed the correct way to blow doors off buildings. Her e-mail contains various snippets of forensic wisdom, such as “What would a dead body left in a Mexican drug tunnel look like after six months?” In the process of her adventures, she has written over thirty gay romance novels, lost count of novellas and short stories, has won Rainbow Awards, was a Lambda Awards Finalist, and lives in terror of authorities showing up at her door to question her Internet searches.
When not putting characters in dangerous situations she’s cosplaying for children's charities or hanging out at the farm being a mother, grandmother, and vegetarian.
Her natural habitats are hardware stores and on the backs of motorcycles.
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September 23, 2014
This story is told from the POV of Henri (or Henry- his name before it was changed for promotion purposes). He's rock star who currently has a very good but not stellar career, a band more interested in partying than improving, a manager in it for the money, an alienated family, and a stalker. He's pulled back from his own worst sex-and-drugs indulgences, and is looking for something better. When he barely avoids disaster after being drugged in a drink, he faces the fact that he hates just about everything about his life right now, other than the music. Something has to change.
One of the things I liked about the book was that Henri goes to professionals for help. He talks to a psychiatrist, spends time in rehab; he actually hires a trained pair of bodyguards (and doesn't fall in love with one.) And he consults with an opera singer about his voice... and there romance does appear.
Sebastian is a young singer dedicated to his voice and his talent, acting, dancing, studying everything that can forward his career in the demanding world of opera. He's clearly not thrilled to take on a rock singer as a pupil, even if he needs the money. But Henri can be charming when he tries, and Seb is not able to fully resist the presence of a vibrant, fun, and kind man in his isolated world of practice and work. Their relationship begins slowly and sweetly.
When Henri returns to his real life and his career, (now able to hit the high notes), he's determined to make changes. The new bandmates he finds are a nice mix of characters, his new manager is appealing. I enjoy a story with a good supporting cast who are well-rounded and human, with both virtues and flaws. Henri's interactions with them add fun to the story. And the romance heats up emotionally, as the distance between Henri and Seb is clearly intolerable, except that Seb shows no signs of thinking the same thing.
This story is well done, a nice, smooth read. The presence of a stalker sub-plot is not my favorite, and some later scenes skim a little superficially and fast over some serious issues. They are mostly Seb's issues.
Because Seb is both not the POV character, and very determined to be independent and self-sufficient, we miss the heart of those issues. He takes his problems off the stage of the book to deal with them. We only get glimpses, as he interacts with Henri, and those are shorter and shallower than I'd have liked. By the end Seb has made some serious decisions and taken some major steps that had to have been really hard, but the process isn't revealed. Although Henri has his own interesting problems, his is the easier course. So having only his side makes the book feel lighter. (Some may prefer that. I admit to being an angst whore - if pain is in the plot I prefer to see/feel it.) The ending has more of an action than an emotional context, completing the arc, if a little conveniently. I'd have preferred the action to have messier consequences and more emotional longevity, but it moves fairly quickly into a romance HEA. The guys are admittedly lovely together.
If you enjoy books about musicians, and about young men taking control of their own lives and seeking their own definition of happiness, then this is well worth a read.
One of the things I liked about the book was that Henri goes to professionals for help. He talks to a psychiatrist, spends time in rehab; he actually hires a trained pair of bodyguards (and doesn't fall in love with one.) And he consults with an opera singer about his voice... and there romance does appear.
Sebastian is a young singer dedicated to his voice and his talent, acting, dancing, studying everything that can forward his career in the demanding world of opera. He's clearly not thrilled to take on a rock singer as a pupil, even if he needs the money. But Henri can be charming when he tries, and Seb is not able to fully resist the presence of a vibrant, fun, and kind man in his isolated world of practice and work. Their relationship begins slowly and sweetly.
When Henri returns to his real life and his career, (now able to hit the high notes), he's determined to make changes. The new bandmates he finds are a nice mix of characters, his new manager is appealing. I enjoy a story with a good supporting cast who are well-rounded and human, with both virtues and flaws. Henri's interactions with them add fun to the story. And the romance heats up emotionally, as the distance between Henri and Seb is clearly intolerable, except that Seb shows no signs of thinking the same thing.
This story is well done, a nice, smooth read. The presence of a stalker sub-plot is not my favorite, and some later scenes skim a little superficially and fast over some serious issues. They are mostly Seb's issues.
Because Seb is both not the POV character, and very determined to be independent and self-sufficient, we miss the heart of those issues. He takes his problems off the stage of the book to deal with them. We only get glimpses, as he interacts with Henri, and those are shorter and shallower than I'd have liked. By the end Seb has made some serious decisions and taken some major steps that had to have been really hard, but the process isn't revealed. Although Henri has his own interesting problems, his is the easier course. So having only his side makes the book feel lighter. (Some may prefer that. I admit to being an angst whore - if pain is in the plot I prefer to see/feel it.) The ending has more of an action than an emotional context, completing the arc, if a little conveniently. I'd have preferred the action to have messier consequences and more emotional longevity, but it moves fairly quickly into a romance HEA. The guys are admittedly lovely together.
If you enjoy books about musicians, and about young men taking control of their own lives and seeking their own definition of happiness, then this is well worth a read.
September 19, 2014
A book that needs a soundtrack!
I got a story *dabs eyes*, two MCs I couldn`t help falling in love with although Henri had to work on winning me over------>character growth, nice cast of secondary characters - especially Lucas and Tessa, undying love, not one but two villains (one for each man), suspense, a showdown, a HEA, and music, music, music.....
The poodle on the cover is forgiven.;-)
I got a story *dabs eyes*, two MCs I couldn`t help falling in love with although Henri had to work on winning me over------>character growth, nice cast of secondary characters - especially Lucas and Tessa, undying love, not one but two villains (one for each man), suspense, a showdown, a HEA, and music, music, music.....
The poodle on the cover is forgiven.;-)
November 16, 2015
2.5 ? maybe kinda sorta
I think it would have worked better as a romance without the suspense / mystery side stories.
I think it would have worked better as a romance without the suspense / mystery side stories.
October 27, 2014
A book that combined two of my biggest passions - a beautiful story and music. What's not to love? Especially if it's flavored with more of my heart's delights:
- strong female AND male supporting characters
- villains who appear scarily mundane on the outside,but are just as scarily evil on second look
- a love story where love is NOT the magic wand that solves every problem
- beautiful character growth not only for the main characters, but for some minor characters as well
- chocolate (!)
- and not to forget lyrics I'd REALLY love to hear sung...
Many books have some kind of fairy godmother or -father who brings the lovers together. In this book, Music filled that role. Music - Seb and Henri's mutual passion for it, struggling with it, service to it - brought them together, gave those so different men a common language. Music wasn't only a background track to Seb and Henri's love story, but "what holds their world together in its inmost folds", an integral part to both their personalities and their romance.
This book, literally, sang. I loved listening to it.
- strong female AND male supporting characters
- villains who appear scarily mundane on the outside,but are just as scarily evil on second look
- a love story where love is NOT the magic wand that solves every problem
- beautiful character growth not only for the main characters, but for some minor characters as well
- chocolate (!)
- and not to forget lyrics I'd REALLY love to hear sung...
Many books have some kind of fairy godmother or -father who brings the lovers together. In this book, Music filled that role. Music - Seb and Henri's mutual passion for it, struggling with it, service to it - brought them together, gave those so different men a common language. Music wasn't only a background track to Seb and Henri's love story, but "what holds their world together in its inmost folds", an integral part to both their personalities and their romance.
This book, literally, sang. I loved listening to it.
December 1, 2020
2.5 Stars
A Matter of When was ok, but not great. A bit too dramatic with both Seb's patron and Henri's stalker. I don't think the stalker plot point was needed to sell Henri's character development or the story and I found it to be over the top. Henri was already going through some serious growth without that. I also really did not like his mother. She treated him like a paycheck and the onus was not on him to make things right. Other than those things, the story was ok.
A Matter of When was ok, but not great. A bit too dramatic with both Seb's patron and Henri's stalker. I don't think the stalker plot point was needed to sell Henri's character development or the story and I found it to be over the top. Henri was already going through some serious growth without that. I also really did not like his mother. She treated him like a paycheck and the onus was not on him to make things right. Other than those things, the story was ok.
October 4, 2014
Note: This book was provided to me by the publisher through Hearts on Fire Reviews in exchange for an impartial review.
Henry LaFontaine has everything any rock star would want—fame, fortune, and a great band, well, it’s a great band by his manager’s standards, but Henry knows the truth about Hookers and Cocaine. They’re a bunch of back-stabbing, bad attitude punks. And Henry is doubly disgusted with his manager, Margo, who has him completely under her thumb and never takes his needs into account—despite the fact that she is his mother. Some mother. The woman denies his every wish and pushes him to a point where he wants much more than just his anxiety medication to get through a day. When a stalker singles him out and nearly succeeds in getting him killed, Margo accuses him of grandstanding and her lack of any kind of sympathy is the last straw. He severs his contract, heads for rehab, and decides that he’d rather be alone than continue to be lonely in a room full of people.
Sebastian Unger is a tenor who is striving for starring roles in major opera companies. He has a patron who has underwritten his career financially and has helped him obtain roles which he hopes will lead to the fame his mother achieved in her opera career. While he’s on hiatus, he’s been contacted by the new manager Henry hired and has agreed to help Henry improve his vocal range. It’s all part of Henry’s makeover. He’s gone through rehab, gotten the new manager, and is willing to work for the fresh start he’s been dreaming of. Sebastian is tall, gorgeous, sweet, humble, and a stern taskmaster when it comes to making Henry take good care of his body. Henry now has to eat well, get exercise, and quit smoking, in addition to singing and practicing breathing to improve his vocal range.
Over the course of the month they are together, the two slowly become friends and Henry actually wants more, but Sebastian isn’t interested in a fleeting relationship and hesitates when Henry offers. It’s not until Henry leaves at the end of the month contract period that he realizes he’d been foolish to pass up the chance to have sex with Sebastian so he returns to the secluded cabin in Colorado where Sebastian lives, and the two finally set the sheets on fire. And though Henry puts off leaving for a while longer, he ultimately has to return to the insanity of California, where he needs to hold auditions to form his new band, work on his music, and most important, keep his stalker at bay.
As the story unfolds, we learn that Sebastian’s patron is much more than that. He’s a physically, sexually, and emotionally abusive man who totally controls Sebastian’s life, and has done so since Sebastian’s mother died when he was sixteen. Though Henry tries to help Sebastian get away on a number of occasions, Sebastian wants control of his own life and refuses to rely on Henry. And in the meantime, Henry’s band is starting to take shape and it looks like this time, he’s put together a team, not just a group of people but a unified mix of very talented artists who like and respect each other and Henry, so Henry has to devote his time and focus to getting them started.
This was a long, complex story, rich with details, evoking emotion and a desire to keep going to find out what is happening in the lives of not only Henry and Sebastian, but also their band members, Henry’s new manager, his birth family, and his stalker. There are so many interwoven subplots and action points that the story never slows or lags or causes the reader to lose interest. When I look back on how much happened within these pages, I find it hard to believe that the book is only 236 pages long.
I loved the fact that the author didn’t push the romance—she allowed it to develop slowly, and when the two men finally admitted their mutual commitment, they did it as stronger men, men who had endured both physical and emotional trauma and who were so deserving of a slice of happiness that I couldn’t stop smiling. HEA? Yes, absolutely, but oh boy, did they have to work hard for it!
I highly recommend this to lovers of contemporary m/m romance, those who enjoy a slow burn-ust, those who enjoy a musician theme, and those who just want to see the good guys come out ahead. Kudos to Eden Winters for an amazing and wonderful story that will make your heart sing.
Henry LaFontaine has everything any rock star would want—fame, fortune, and a great band, well, it’s a great band by his manager’s standards, but Henry knows the truth about Hookers and Cocaine. They’re a bunch of back-stabbing, bad attitude punks. And Henry is doubly disgusted with his manager, Margo, who has him completely under her thumb and never takes his needs into account—despite the fact that she is his mother. Some mother. The woman denies his every wish and pushes him to a point where he wants much more than just his anxiety medication to get through a day. When a stalker singles him out and nearly succeeds in getting him killed, Margo accuses him of grandstanding and her lack of any kind of sympathy is the last straw. He severs his contract, heads for rehab, and decides that he’d rather be alone than continue to be lonely in a room full of people.
Sebastian Unger is a tenor who is striving for starring roles in major opera companies. He has a patron who has underwritten his career financially and has helped him obtain roles which he hopes will lead to the fame his mother achieved in her opera career. While he’s on hiatus, he’s been contacted by the new manager Henry hired and has agreed to help Henry improve his vocal range. It’s all part of Henry’s makeover. He’s gone through rehab, gotten the new manager, and is willing to work for the fresh start he’s been dreaming of. Sebastian is tall, gorgeous, sweet, humble, and a stern taskmaster when it comes to making Henry take good care of his body. Henry now has to eat well, get exercise, and quit smoking, in addition to singing and practicing breathing to improve his vocal range.
Over the course of the month they are together, the two slowly become friends and Henry actually wants more, but Sebastian isn’t interested in a fleeting relationship and hesitates when Henry offers. It’s not until Henry leaves at the end of the month contract period that he realizes he’d been foolish to pass up the chance to have sex with Sebastian so he returns to the secluded cabin in Colorado where Sebastian lives, and the two finally set the sheets on fire. And though Henry puts off leaving for a while longer, he ultimately has to return to the insanity of California, where he needs to hold auditions to form his new band, work on his music, and most important, keep his stalker at bay.
As the story unfolds, we learn that Sebastian’s patron is much more than that. He’s a physically, sexually, and emotionally abusive man who totally controls Sebastian’s life, and has done so since Sebastian’s mother died when he was sixteen. Though Henry tries to help Sebastian get away on a number of occasions, Sebastian wants control of his own life and refuses to rely on Henry. And in the meantime, Henry’s band is starting to take shape and it looks like this time, he’s put together a team, not just a group of people but a unified mix of very talented artists who like and respect each other and Henry, so Henry has to devote his time and focus to getting them started.
This was a long, complex story, rich with details, evoking emotion and a desire to keep going to find out what is happening in the lives of not only Henry and Sebastian, but also their band members, Henry’s new manager, his birth family, and his stalker. There are so many interwoven subplots and action points that the story never slows or lags or causes the reader to lose interest. When I look back on how much happened within these pages, I find it hard to believe that the book is only 236 pages long.
I loved the fact that the author didn’t push the romance—she allowed it to develop slowly, and when the two men finally admitted their mutual commitment, they did it as stronger men, men who had endured both physical and emotional trauma and who were so deserving of a slice of happiness that I couldn’t stop smiling. HEA? Yes, absolutely, but oh boy, did they have to work hard for it!
I highly recommend this to lovers of contemporary m/m romance, those who enjoy a slow burn-ust, those who enjoy a musician theme, and those who just want to see the good guys come out ahead. Kudos to Eden Winters for an amazing and wonderful story that will make your heart sing.
October 18, 2014
Some stories grab hold of you and don't let you go, even at the end. Some authors spin a story that captures your heart and drags it along on an emotional ride. For me Eden Winters does both time and time again.
This story was everything I could hope for.
Bad boy rocker Henri is so much more than what he portrays to the world. Vulnerable and with a dream to belong to someone and not feel so alone. He melted my heart pretty damn quickly.
Sebastian (my favourite name) quietly snuck in to my heart and took root. He has his own story that had me wishing for a very painful outcome. Like Henri he suffered a lonely existence and more.
These two guys really did a number on my heart, but thanks to the new band members this was not a doom and gloom read. Far from it. Everyone brought a little something to this story. As well as love there is strength and loyalty and even redemption. Not to mention the twist right at the beginning that had my jaw dropping.
These are people I would jump at meeting again. Maybe a Christmas special a year or two down the line? Another big family Christmas dinner with a few more guests maybe? Lol.
A great read recommended to Rock Star fans and all who enjoy a love story with a bite.
This story was everything I could hope for.
Bad boy rocker Henri is so much more than what he portrays to the world. Vulnerable and with a dream to belong to someone and not feel so alone. He melted my heart pretty damn quickly.
Sebastian (my favourite name) quietly snuck in to my heart and took root. He has his own story that had me wishing for a very painful outcome. Like Henri he suffered a lonely existence and more.
These two guys really did a number on my heart, but thanks to the new band members this was not a doom and gloom read. Far from it. Everyone brought a little something to this story. As well as love there is strength and loyalty and even redemption. Not to mention the twist right at the beginning that had my jaw dropping.
These are people I would jump at meeting again. Maybe a Christmas special a year or two down the line? Another big family Christmas dinner with a few more guests maybe? Lol.
A great read recommended to Rock Star fans and all who enjoy a love story with a bite.
March 28, 2016
This was really good. Both Henri and Sebastian had their issues. We only get Henri's pov in here and only hear about Sebastian's issues and what he's going through when he's with Henri but I have to say I'm glad it was done that way. Henri had enough going on if we had gotten Sebastian's pov it probably would have been too heavy for me personally. I loved how Henri picked himself up and took charge of his own life. I loved all the changes he made. I was so excited to read about them. I'm also glad Sebastian got his life together. They were sweet together.
March 12, 2020
“When it becomes more difficult to suffer than to change...you will change.” ~ Robert Anthony
Henri is tired of faking it. He's sick to death of everyone telling him what to do. He quits the band; fires his manager, who is also his mother, and leaves, having no idea where he is going. Lucas, his new manager, encourages him to make a new start by working with a voice coach, Sebastian, and getting a quiet place to rest and write music. Skeptical, but desperate, Henri takes the offer which ends up making not only his music sing, but his heart as well.
When Henri is almost kidnapped by a stalker, he knows he can't wait any longer. He wants to get away from all the negativity of his manager and his band. Without them governing his every move, he's finally able to breathe again. What Henri needs is a push in a positive direction which he gets when he hires his new manager, Lucas. Henri needs time to regroup and make a plan for his comeback. When he goes to Colorado, he thinks things are going to be easy and, hopefully, relaxing. That's before he meets his young, handsome teacher, Sebastian, a classically trained opera singer who lives and breathes music and who is dedicated to keeping himself as healthy as possible. Henri is motivated to join Sebastian in his quest to look and feel good. Henri's sexual attraction to Sebastian is very strong, but he tries to stay professional. That doesn't last long and they end up in bed. The closer they become, the more Henri's feelings grow, but he also notices that something is worrying Sebastian. Whenever Sebastian mentions his patron, Henri feels a distinct change in Sebastian's emotions. Henri wants to help, but Sebastian refuses, insisting he has things under control. Henri goes back to his music and touring, but misses Sebastian desperately. When he pays an unexpected visit to Sebastian's home, Sebastian's bruised face makes it abundantly clear that he's not able to handle the abuse he's receiving from his patron.
Sebastian is trapped in an abusive relationship; he has no life of his own. His patron determines everything he does and has since Sebastian's mother died when he was sixteen, leaving him guardianship of Sebastian. He may be beautiful, talented, and successful, but he lives in constant fear of doing something to displease his wealthy and powerful patron. Although Sebastian welcomes Henri to his home, his bad habits leave Sebastian wanting to tear his hair out at times. Music is a universal language and forms a bridge of understanding between Henri and Sebastian. It smoothens their differences and brings them together despite them seeming to be completely opposite. Even with their totally different styles, when making music, Sebastian and Henri are as close to Zen as possible. Sebastian hates being under his patron's thumb, but can't see any way out. Even when Henri proposes one, Sebastian refuses. He wants to be responsible for himself, without having to depend upon someone else ever again; but when Henri finds a legitimate way for him to pull his own weight, he accepts his offer.
There are many things I love about this book. I'm always drawn by anything to do with almost any kind of music, so I automatically loved Sebastian and Henri. I especially enjoyed Eden's song lyrics. They added real depth. The secondary characters are fantastic, particularly Tess; she is simply ethereal, just like the song written for her implies, and a fantastic female role model as well. Portraying the serious subject of abuse was no easy task, but Eden did a great job of showing how easily someone can take over our lives, but how incredibly difficult, physically and emotionally, it is to get out of this crippling position. I recommend this story to everyone who enjoys music, strong character growth, suspense, intrigue, villains, and two handsome men who find each other while finding themselves. Thank you so much, Eden, for making my heart sing.
NOTE: The first edition of this book was provided by the author for the purpose of a review on Rainbow Book Reviews.
Henri is tired of faking it. He's sick to death of everyone telling him what to do. He quits the band; fires his manager, who is also his mother, and leaves, having no idea where he is going. Lucas, his new manager, encourages him to make a new start by working with a voice coach, Sebastian, and getting a quiet place to rest and write music. Skeptical, but desperate, Henri takes the offer which ends up making not only his music sing, but his heart as well.
When Henri is almost kidnapped by a stalker, he knows he can't wait any longer. He wants to get away from all the negativity of his manager and his band. Without them governing his every move, he's finally able to breathe again. What Henri needs is a push in a positive direction which he gets when he hires his new manager, Lucas. Henri needs time to regroup and make a plan for his comeback. When he goes to Colorado, he thinks things are going to be easy and, hopefully, relaxing. That's before he meets his young, handsome teacher, Sebastian, a classically trained opera singer who lives and breathes music and who is dedicated to keeping himself as healthy as possible. Henri is motivated to join Sebastian in his quest to look and feel good. Henri's sexual attraction to Sebastian is very strong, but he tries to stay professional. That doesn't last long and they end up in bed. The closer they become, the more Henri's feelings grow, but he also notices that something is worrying Sebastian. Whenever Sebastian mentions his patron, Henri feels a distinct change in Sebastian's emotions. Henri wants to help, but Sebastian refuses, insisting he has things under control. Henri goes back to his music and touring, but misses Sebastian desperately. When he pays an unexpected visit to Sebastian's home, Sebastian's bruised face makes it abundantly clear that he's not able to handle the abuse he's receiving from his patron.
Sebastian is trapped in an abusive relationship; he has no life of his own. His patron determines everything he does and has since Sebastian's mother died when he was sixteen, leaving him guardianship of Sebastian. He may be beautiful, talented, and successful, but he lives in constant fear of doing something to displease his wealthy and powerful patron. Although Sebastian welcomes Henri to his home, his bad habits leave Sebastian wanting to tear his hair out at times. Music is a universal language and forms a bridge of understanding between Henri and Sebastian. It smoothens their differences and brings them together despite them seeming to be completely opposite. Even with their totally different styles, when making music, Sebastian and Henri are as close to Zen as possible. Sebastian hates being under his patron's thumb, but can't see any way out. Even when Henri proposes one, Sebastian refuses. He wants to be responsible for himself, without having to depend upon someone else ever again; but when Henri finds a legitimate way for him to pull his own weight, he accepts his offer.
There are many things I love about this book. I'm always drawn by anything to do with almost any kind of music, so I automatically loved Sebastian and Henri. I especially enjoyed Eden's song lyrics. They added real depth. The secondary characters are fantastic, particularly Tess; she is simply ethereal, just like the song written for her implies, and a fantastic female role model as well. Portraying the serious subject of abuse was no easy task, but Eden did a great job of showing how easily someone can take over our lives, but how incredibly difficult, physically and emotionally, it is to get out of this crippling position. I recommend this story to everyone who enjoys music, strong character growth, suspense, intrigue, villains, and two handsome men who find each other while finding themselves. Thank you so much, Eden, for making my heart sing.
NOTE: The first edition of this book was provided by the author for the purpose of a review on Rainbow Book Reviews.
September 23, 2014
Rock and opera aren’t musical forms that obviously go together in anyone’s hands but Eden Winters. Henri and Sebastian have a lot of the same obstacles to overcome, in their own separate ways. Not only that, but Seb can teach Henri how to sustain a note longer than 3 seconds without passing out.
This story is certainly a romance, but as important as the relationship is, so is the theme of independence. These two guys have to find their backbones and get out of abusive relationships, both professional and personal. We’re in Henri’s POV for the entire book, which is actually kind of a relief, because Seb has the more gruesome situation, and the author lets us fill in a lot of our own blanks. What I can imagine from the few bald statements is quite awful enough. Henri wants desperately to help Seb along, and Seb’s got to find his own strength before he feels worthy of Henri’s attentions. Henri has his own battles to fight, but he needs Seb’s support on some important healing. What these guys accomplish on their own is as important as what they accomplish together, but neither one could accomplish as much without the other.
Of course, there’s serious heat between these two guys, more than enough to bridge the gulf between their backgrounds and styles.
In trademark style, Eden Winters has swirling issues in the background, well drawn secondary characters (I wanna hear Tessa play the bowls, or the Chinese takeout, or both!) and a sense of place that leaps off the page. Part of this story is set local for me, and I giggled with recognition when Seb drives Henri down what could only be that steep section of I-70 between Genesee and Golden. The heat of the stage lights and the breathless anticipation of the audiences are sharp and clear. Both the adoration and the menace from the singers' audiences come through in terrifying ways.
I suppose no rock star book would be complete without the MC’s singing to each other on stage, but here it’s not the revelation of feelings, it’s more the demonstration of what they can accomplish artistically together. Other sections of Henri’s music appear, apparently Eden Winters has a secret career in rock and roll, because those grim lyrics demand a driving bass line and a gravel voice to pound them out.
If there’s any quibble, it’s that the music industry seems to be working on the model of 20 years ago when iTunes didn’t sell single tracks, but who cares, because both Henri and Sebastian have to remake themselves, for themselves, and to be together. That togetherness gives the lie to opera is stuffy, because Seb and his golden voice blend so wonderfully with Henri and his rock lyrics, and because the two of them are so perfect for each other.
This story is certainly a romance, but as important as the relationship is, so is the theme of independence. These two guys have to find their backbones and get out of abusive relationships, both professional and personal. We’re in Henri’s POV for the entire book, which is actually kind of a relief, because Seb has the more gruesome situation, and the author lets us fill in a lot of our own blanks. What I can imagine from the few bald statements is quite awful enough. Henri wants desperately to help Seb along, and Seb’s got to find his own strength before he feels worthy of Henri’s attentions. Henri has his own battles to fight, but he needs Seb’s support on some important healing. What these guys accomplish on their own is as important as what they accomplish together, but neither one could accomplish as much without the other.
Of course, there’s serious heat between these two guys, more than enough to bridge the gulf between their backgrounds and styles.
In trademark style, Eden Winters has swirling issues in the background, well drawn secondary characters (I wanna hear Tessa play the bowls, or the Chinese takeout, or both!) and a sense of place that leaps off the page. Part of this story is set local for me, and I giggled with recognition when Seb drives Henri down what could only be that steep section of I-70 between Genesee and Golden. The heat of the stage lights and the breathless anticipation of the audiences are sharp and clear. Both the adoration and the menace from the singers' audiences come through in terrifying ways.
I suppose no rock star book would be complete without the MC’s singing to each other on stage, but here it’s not the revelation of feelings, it’s more the demonstration of what they can accomplish artistically together. Other sections of Henri’s music appear, apparently Eden Winters has a secret career in rock and roll, because those grim lyrics demand a driving bass line and a gravel voice to pound them out.
If there’s any quibble, it’s that the music industry seems to be working on the model of 20 years ago when iTunes didn’t sell single tracks, but who cares, because both Henri and Sebastian have to remake themselves, for themselves, and to be together. That togetherness gives the lie to opera is stuffy, because Seb and his golden voice blend so wonderfully with Henri and his rock lyrics, and because the two of them are so perfect for each other.
September 24, 2014
As I started reading this book, I found Henri very amusing. He's a very complex character, and I loved his determination to get control of his life again. But his private thoughts had me giggling constantly. I ached for him and his relationship with his family. I especially liked how believable his manager/mother's behavior is towards her own son, because money does that to people, it turns them into soulless monsters.
There is no abuse in his past, which I appreciated greatly. Being a rock star and constantly in the public eye is enough drama for a human being to deal with. His heartache came simply from the effect of money and fame, abuse of drugs and alcohol. And I understood how difficult it was for him to find people who didn't try to use him for his money, because it all comes with being rich and famous.
Seb on the other hand, he wasn't as famous as Henry, he was an opera singer who had a totally different heartache to deal with. I was surprised to find out his story, because at the beginning, seeing him so focused and self-assured, I never would have guessed about his abuse.
Seb was a very proud man, who refused help from those around him, which sometimes frustrated me. But at the same time, I understood his reason, and in the end he redeemed himself in my eyes.
I loved the relationship between Henry and Seb, it wasnt insta-love or anything, it started off as a solid friendship with a strong physical attraction, which allowed both of them to learn to trust each other. There were many supportive, strong characters, both male and female, and that gave the feeling of very close, solid friendships, which I appreciated.
A great book all together, I recommend it to anyone who loves rock stars, musicians and romance.
There is no abuse in his past, which I appreciated greatly. Being a rock star and constantly in the public eye is enough drama for a human being to deal with. His heartache came simply from the effect of money and fame, abuse of drugs and alcohol. And I understood how difficult it was for him to find people who didn't try to use him for his money, because it all comes with being rich and famous.
Seb on the other hand, he wasn't as famous as Henry, he was an opera singer who had a totally different heartache to deal with. I was surprised to find out his story, because at the beginning, seeing him so focused and self-assured, I never would have guessed about his abuse.
Seb was a very proud man, who refused help from those around him, which sometimes frustrated me. But at the same time, I understood his reason, and in the end he redeemed himself in my eyes.
I loved the relationship between Henry and Seb, it wasnt insta-love or anything, it started off as a solid friendship with a strong physical attraction, which allowed both of them to learn to trust each other. There were many supportive, strong characters, both male and female, and that gave the feeling of very close, solid friendships, which I appreciated.
A great book all together, I recommend it to anyone who loves rock stars, musicians and romance.
September 26, 2014
Really got involved in Henri's drama. I liked that once he felt he wrested control of his life back, he set about making changes and moving on.
I didn't believe that m- manager for a minute. Surely nobody could be that cruel. And the cruelty doesn't end there. Even though our interaction with Charles is incredibly short, his controlling influence runs thoughout the story.
Wish I could have glimpsed a little bit of Seb's thoughts. He remains elusive, right to the end.
Most heartwarming and inspiring.
I didn't believe that m- manager for a minute. Surely nobody could be that cruel. And the cruelty doesn't end there. Even though our interaction with Charles is incredibly short, his controlling influence runs thoughout the story.
Wish I could have glimpsed a little bit of Seb's thoughts. He remains elusive, right to the end.
Most heartwarming and inspiring.
September 30, 2014
4,5 stars.
Wonderful story, loved it. Give Tina some musicians and a hot love story, and she's a happy girl:) Highly recommended. :)
Wonderful story, loved it. Give Tina some musicians and a hot love story, and she's a happy girl:) Highly recommended. :)
April 27, 2021
I was not quite sure after reading the plot if I wanted to read this one. but it was different and better than I expected.
First of all Henri was not the good boy we so often see in such plots. he has troubles with drugs and definitely not enough self-disciplin.
contrary to that we see a totally contrary behaviour from Seb at the beginning.
this book is told from Henris POV and that is important because most of all this is Henris journey from a bad-boy band rockstar to a real star and a great guy.
I really enjoyed this book - more than I thought I would and can wholly recommend it.
First of all Henri was not the good boy we so often see in such plots. he has troubles with drugs and definitely not enough self-disciplin.
contrary to that we see a totally contrary behaviour from Seb at the beginning.
this book is told from Henris POV and that is important because most of all this is Henris journey from a bad-boy band rockstar to a real star and a great guy.
I really enjoyed this book - more than I thought I would and can wholly recommend it.
April 12, 2021
This book turned out more awesome than I expected. A rock star and a opera singer, and it worked! Both Henri and Seb had a lot of character growth thru this story and their relationship. Loved it!
September 25, 2014
REVIEWED FOR PRISM BOOK ALLIANCE
This book absolutely held me from the minute I started it the minute I finished. I fell head over heels in love with Henri and Sebastian and their quiet but passionate love affair.
Henri Lafontaine is a rock star that has fame and fortune and not a lot else. His band manager is a god awful human being and as the story progressed and her real identity was found out I wanted to wring her neck! His band hates him although the feeling is mutual. His anxiety is off the charts and he uses drugs far too often. His life is micro managed and loveless.
When an attempted assault is thwarted and Henri ends up in therapy it is clearly time for a change and thankfully his current doctor agrees. Taking control of his life is a new experience for him but one he grabs with relish.
He walks away from his band, sacks his manager and takes control of his finances - that will do for a start. He then finds himself a new manager who swiftly sends him off to the Colorado Rockies to stay with an old friend for vocal coaching for a month.
His host for the month is Sebastian Unger. An angel faced opera singer with the thoughts of the devil and a man that is hiding his secrets under a shy smile. He may well be the first person that hasn’t dropped to their knees in awe of Henri’s rock god status and also the first person to criticise his voice skills. Sebastian takes perfection of his craft to a crazy level and it seems everything he does in life has a purpose and that purpose is to improve his voice.
The first few days do not go well and the house is filled with tension, both from a clash of attitudes towards each mans work ethics and sexual. Henri doesn’t really try to hide his attraction to Sebastian but Sebastian seems almost afraid to let his feelings be known. Once Henri starts applying himself to his training and Sebastian relaxes a little it is not too long before they embark on a passionate affair and spend all their available time together.
The month passes too quickly but Henri is healing and feeling more positive about his life than he can ever remember. His plan is to return to the city and put together a band that works well for him instead of one that constantly works against him. The only problem in his life is Sebastian. He doesn’t want to say goodbye to the man but doesn’t know how they can make things work with their very different lifestyles.
Sebastian hasn’t been completely honest with Henri and a dark shadow looms in his life stemming from the days when his mother passed away. After a month spent with Henri his past is about to me his present and it proves not to be pretty. Another surprise comes from Sebastian’s new manager that shakes everybody.
As Henri puts together his new band and proves to be successful Sebastian is at a crossroads in his life and needs to brave enough to finally fight back. Will he be able to do it on his own though or will finally be honest and lean on the man he has fallen in love with.
This book absolutely held me from the minute I started it the minute I finished. I fell head over heels in love with Henri and Sebastian and their quiet but passionate love affair.
Henri Lafontaine is a rock star that has fame and fortune and not a lot else. His band manager is a god awful human being and as the story progressed and her real identity was found out I wanted to wring her neck! His band hates him although the feeling is mutual. His anxiety is off the charts and he uses drugs far too often. His life is micro managed and loveless.
When an attempted assault is thwarted and Henri ends up in therapy it is clearly time for a change and thankfully his current doctor agrees. Taking control of his life is a new experience for him but one he grabs with relish.
He walks away from his band, sacks his manager and takes control of his finances - that will do for a start. He then finds himself a new manager who swiftly sends him off to the Colorado Rockies to stay with an old friend for vocal coaching for a month.
His host for the month is Sebastian Unger. An angel faced opera singer with the thoughts of the devil and a man that is hiding his secrets under a shy smile. He may well be the first person that hasn’t dropped to their knees in awe of Henri’s rock god status and also the first person to criticise his voice skills. Sebastian takes perfection of his craft to a crazy level and it seems everything he does in life has a purpose and that purpose is to improve his voice.
The first few days do not go well and the house is filled with tension, both from a clash of attitudes towards each mans work ethics and sexual. Henri doesn’t really try to hide his attraction to Sebastian but Sebastian seems almost afraid to let his feelings be known. Once Henri starts applying himself to his training and Sebastian relaxes a little it is not too long before they embark on a passionate affair and spend all their available time together.
The month passes too quickly but Henri is healing and feeling more positive about his life than he can ever remember. His plan is to return to the city and put together a band that works well for him instead of one that constantly works against him. The only problem in his life is Sebastian. He doesn’t want to say goodbye to the man but doesn’t know how they can make things work with their very different lifestyles.
Sebastian hasn’t been completely honest with Henri and a dark shadow looms in his life stemming from the days when his mother passed away. After a month spent with Henri his past is about to me his present and it proves not to be pretty. Another surprise comes from Sebastian’s new manager that shakes everybody.
As Henri puts together his new band and proves to be successful Sebastian is at a crossroads in his life and needs to brave enough to finally fight back. Will he be able to do it on his own though or will finally be honest and lean on the man he has fallen in love with.
January 12, 2015
We begin with a man in despair. His life has spiraled out of control. He has no one he can trust, no one to turn to at moments of illness or joy. He has been betrayed by the very people who should be not only protecting him but loving him.
Henri is a rock star with a band that has an awful name and band members who are not at all united or caring for each other. The manager's true identity is not a secret from anyone except the reader and when who she really is was revealed I was shocked and wanted to jump into the pages to rip her head off.
That is not the only secret identity. When that manager is fired and another one hired, his identity is also a secret, this time from everyone, and it is a big surprise.
Henri is sent to spend a month with Sebastian, an opera singer, to train his voice and his self-discipline. Love blooms but there seems to be a reason Sebastian can't allow their love affair to go forward, much to Henri and Seb's heartache.
The settings in the Colorado mountains, various performance venues, and Los Angeles add to the changing mood of the story. The characters are allowed time and space to develop, which is a treat and a departure from many romance novels. Even the secondary characters, some of whom are truly vile people, are critical to the story. There are not one but two villains. The anxiety built around them and their nefarious plans made me unable to put the book aside until I finished it.
Eden Winters is not only an extremely talented author of gay romance, she reveals a tremendous talent in this book as a lyricist of the first order. I would love to hear some of these songs performed.
The combination of music, an angst-driven mystery, and a tender love story make A Matter of When a page-turner that I will read again, and which I recommend to all lovers of romance.
Henri is a rock star with a band that has an awful name and band members who are not at all united or caring for each other. The manager's true identity is not a secret from anyone except the reader and when who she really is was revealed I was shocked and wanted to jump into the pages to rip her head off.
That is not the only secret identity. When that manager is fired and another one hired, his identity is also a secret, this time from everyone, and it is a big surprise.
Henri is sent to spend a month with Sebastian, an opera singer, to train his voice and his self-discipline. Love blooms but there seems to be a reason Sebastian can't allow their love affair to go forward, much to Henri and Seb's heartache.
The settings in the Colorado mountains, various performance venues, and Los Angeles add to the changing mood of the story. The characters are allowed time and space to develop, which is a treat and a departure from many romance novels. Even the secondary characters, some of whom are truly vile people, are critical to the story. There are not one but two villains. The anxiety built around them and their nefarious plans made me unable to put the book aside until I finished it.
Eden Winters is not only an extremely talented author of gay romance, she reveals a tremendous talent in this book as a lyricist of the first order. I would love to hear some of these songs performed.
The combination of music, an angst-driven mystery, and a tender love story make A Matter of When a page-turner that I will read again, and which I recommend to all lovers of romance.
August 16, 2021
This book was wonderful. You have a rockstar who is crashing, an opera star with a secret, put them together in the middle of the Colorado Rockies and FIREWORKS!!! And the secondary characters . . . . OMG!!! I loved them!! Especially Henri's new eclectic band and Lucas. His momager though . . . Throw that bitch off the mountain! I just wish we had gotten to see Seb's POV because his story was definitely deep and needs to be told.
October 23, 2014
Gah, I fell in love with Eden after her GRL panel this year. I have to say this is my first Eden book but not my last. Everything felt so real, from the relationship to the drama and angst. I love Seb the most; his personality was so endearing. Henri, what can I say, my heart ached for him. The emotions came through crystal clear in this story. Well done and highly recommended.
November 12, 2021
This is a refreshing take on the superstar romance genre.
A stalker forces lead singer Henri to reassess his life. The realisation he's alone with no real friends gives him the push he needs to get into therapy and reinvent himself. He hires a new manager who convinces him to treat being a rockstar like any other professional and arranges vocal lessons with opera singer Seb.
A stalker forces lead singer Henri to reassess his life. The realisation he's alone with no real friends gives him the push he needs to get into therapy and reinvent himself. He hires a new manager who convinces him to treat being a rockstar like any other professional and arranges vocal lessons with opera singer Seb.
February 21, 2016
Good story between an Opera Star and a Rock Star who are both the victims of controlling people.
September 26, 2014
Beautiful story!!
March 26, 2016
3.5 stars
Usually not a fan of "rocker" books but it was an Eden Winters book.
Usually not a fan of "rocker" books but it was an Eden Winters book.
September 19, 2020
I don't think I was enjoying this reading that much and I may have gotten so far probably only because I was not feeling great, I was in pain and I could not sleep so I was trying tot distract myself with reading. I would normally say it means my judgment is clouded and not to be trusted but I am afraid the book needed to help from me to... not be exactly that great.
The beginning fooled me, I guess. It was pretty great, actually. Except it turned out it was just a stereotypical Rock&Roll image that the author spend the rest of the book making into what SHE wanted a star singer to be like - at once criticizing the environment and people in the "spotlight" while also making her MC a famous, talented rockstar who has it all.
I was very disappointed by the whole dealings with his anxiety. While I started to identify with the issue at the very start, it was quickly swept under the rug - first by reducing the whole thing into "pill taking" than progressing to "suck it up, buttercup!" until he stopped taking them. Because people with anxiety should definitely be told they should just "be brave" and, dunno, stop having anxiety?? By confronting their problems?
This beautiful handling stretched over every aspect - Henry complaining about changing his name to Henri, reclaiming his life and still using Henri, being shockingly arrogant and snobbish (after what we saw in his head at the beginning) just to turn completely around (as in brainwashed, soul-replacement kind of change) or the absurd romance and its timing and the new manager and Henry's family who are at once mindless background noise and also really annoying props for his life change.
The new bands is also... I mean, seriously, this can only happen in a book, it practically screams "America" and could be made into a film without any changes. Congratulations.
I am not much sure I would recommend it.
The beginning fooled me, I guess. It was pretty great, actually. Except it turned out it was just a stereotypical Rock&Roll image that the author spend the rest of the book making into what SHE wanted a star singer to be like - at once criticizing the environment and people in the "spotlight" while also making her MC a famous, talented rockstar who has it all.
I was very disappointed by the whole dealings with his anxiety. While I started to identify with the issue at the very start, it was quickly swept under the rug - first by reducing the whole thing into "pill taking" than progressing to "suck it up, buttercup!" until he stopped taking them. Because people with anxiety should definitely be told they should just "be brave" and, dunno, stop having anxiety?? By confronting their problems?
This beautiful handling stretched over every aspect - Henry complaining about changing his name to Henri, reclaiming his life and still using Henri, being shockingly arrogant and snobbish (after what we saw in his head at the beginning) just to turn completely around (as in brainwashed, soul-replacement kind of change) or the absurd romance and its timing and the new manager and Henry's family who are at once mindless background noise and also really annoying props for his life change.
The new bands is also... I mean, seriously, this can only happen in a book, it practically screams "America" and could be made into a film without any changes. Congratulations.
I am not much sure I would recommend it.
March 4, 2020
Henri is a B-list rock star with an out of control life. A bad drink lands him in rehab and onto the next stage of his life. He fires his manager, leaves his band and seeks help for his mental issues. His new manager sends him to a vocal trainer, Sebastian who is a complete surprise.
Seb is an opera singer who agrees to help Henri with his technique. He is regimented and a bit skittish and definitely hiding something. Henri falls for him anyway.
Told from Henri’s POV, the author skillfully weaves family drama and suspense. The impetus for training with Seb was more to hide from a stalker rather than to learn how to sing better. The reader has that thread floating around in the background while we watch Henri fight for what and who he wants in the next stage of his life.
I really liked both men. They were weak but strong. That sounds odd, I know. They both have issues and trip up and are abused by people around them and it takes a while for them to grow and trust and get their lives back.
This is a complicated journey of self discovery and family and mystery and suspense. Lordy, my heart stopped a couple of times and I was so engrossed I read the book in one sitting. Whew! This was good stuff!!
Seb is an opera singer who agrees to help Henri with his technique. He is regimented and a bit skittish and definitely hiding something. Henri falls for him anyway.
Told from Henri’s POV, the author skillfully weaves family drama and suspense. The impetus for training with Seb was more to hide from a stalker rather than to learn how to sing better. The reader has that thread floating around in the background while we watch Henri fight for what and who he wants in the next stage of his life.
I really liked both men. They were weak but strong. That sounds odd, I know. They both have issues and trip up and are abused by people around them and it takes a while for them to grow and trust and get their lives back.
This is a complicated journey of self discovery and family and mystery and suspense. Lordy, my heart stopped a couple of times and I was so engrossed I read the book in one sitting. Whew! This was good stuff!!
September 9, 2021
I have not read a book by this author before. I enjoyed it.
Seb is an accomplished opera singer with a patron who has questionable intentions for his charge.
Henri is the front man to a rock band. None of whom display any loyalty to each other.
When it is discovered Henri was drugged, he cuts ties with his manager and the band.
After a time in rehab Henri is sent to stay with Seb for rest and voice lessons but Henri finds so much more. Unfortunately Seb's patron, Charles, makes it clear Seb belongs to him.
There is drugs, sex, intrigue, and violence but it all adds up to a good book.
Seb is an accomplished opera singer with a patron who has questionable intentions for his charge.
Henri is the front man to a rock band. None of whom display any loyalty to each other.
When it is discovered Henri was drugged, he cuts ties with his manager and the band.
After a time in rehab Henri is sent to stay with Seb for rest and voice lessons but Henri finds so much more. Unfortunately Seb's patron, Charles, makes it clear Seb belongs to him.
There is drugs, sex, intrigue, and violence but it all adds up to a good book.
February 28, 2023
I thoroughly enjoyed this relatively quick read. The storyline flowed well and the various sub-plots held my interest. Henri’s original band members were horrible and totally forgettable, but I liked how he chose his new bandmates and how well they fit together.
There were, however, some things I didn’t care for. Sebastian came across as older than he really was, for good reason, but never did become the relaxed, warm fuzzy type I was hoping for. He was just too rigid. And for some reason, I had a lot of trouble trying to imagine what Henri and Sebastian might actually look like.
There were, however, some things I didn’t care for. Sebastian came across as older than he really was, for good reason, but never did become the relaxed, warm fuzzy type I was hoping for. He was just too rigid. And for some reason, I had a lot of trouble trying to imagine what Henri and Sebastian might actually look like.
August 21, 2021
I never really felt the connection between Sebastian and Henri. Perhaps because Sebastian was missing for a lot of the book and we never learnt a lot about him. Henri's mother/manager had a split personality. At the end everything seemed to be tied up with a pretty bow as though a fairy godmother had waved her magic wand. Even the stalker played the game and tidied up any loose ends. An ok read but not memorable.
3.5 Stars
3.5 Stars
September 1, 2021
So far I've read Winters Division series, so this is my first look into a different setting for her. I think what works for me in the other series is missing here. There are some bits I really like, like a relationship is not a cure all for life issues. The side characters are strong, but in the end, it felt like the MCs had dialed up to 11. Instead of a badass concert, I kept thinking about the pain in my ears. YMMV based on angst tolerance.
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