Collecting Thunderbolts (2012) #13-19. INFINITY TIE-IN! The T-Bolts’ new ongoing creative team bursts into action! While the Avengers are away, the Thunderbolts strike! Their goal is to strike hard and fast, to take the entire NYC Mafia before anything goes wrong — but when Thanos’ hordes come crashing down smack dab in the middle of the T-Bolts’ mission, their “perfect plan” finds itself going right off the rails! And things get even worse when one of the Black Order sets her sights on the Red Leader! How will the Thunderbolts prevail against the overwhelming cosmic tide of INFINITY? Plus: Delve into the secrets of the most mysterious Thunderbolt, Mercy!
Charles Soule is a #1 New York Times-bestselling novelist, comics author, screenwriter, musician, and lapsed attorney. He has written some of the most prominent stories of the last decade for Marvel, DC and Lucasfilm in addition to his own work, such as his comics Curse Words, Letter 44 and Undiscovered Country, and his original novels Light of the Jedi, The Endless Vessel, The Oracle Year and Anyone. He lives in New York.
What a difference a new author and a new volume make! Still the Thunderbolts, still the same cast as last time (Red Hulk, Deadpool, Punisher, Elektra, Venom, Red Leader), only this time the potential of this combo is realized.
Although Red Hulk/General Ross still has command, he’s willing to let each individual member get a shot at leading the group on a mission of his/her choice between Ross’s own forays against terrorism. So who’s the first person to get their mission pulled out of Deadpool’s musketeer hat – why it’s Frank Castle aka The Punisher. So tell everyone Frank, what kind of mission do you want the group to pull off. Answer: Kill more mobsters!*
Holy Paulie Walnuts! I was so shocked by this revelation, I nearly dropped the book. Way to branch out a little, Frank.
Most of this graphic novel is a tie in to some Marvel Crossover event called Infinity. This has something to do with Thanos and aliens invading New York City. This also screams been there and done that; however the focus here thankfully remains with the Thunderbolts.
About the art: I hate stylized art work, it has a way of detracting from the writing. Did Marvel borrow Jefte Palo from the children’s comics division?
The last issue in this volume has the Red Leader contemplating life during a long trip in a van and it’s excellent.
*For my non-comic reading Goodreads friends, this is pretty much all The Punisher ever does.
So I've been reading all the Inhuman stuff I can find since 2000. I just happened to find out I missed some of the new Inhumans so what better place to start than Lineage.
I have to say I was surprised how weak and incompetent Lineage was when he was introduced. Pre-terrigenesis he doesn't resemble the Lineage I've come to know in personality, but perhaps his Inhuman abilities were the key to his success.
The Thunderbolt story was pretty good and they have an interesting lineup, but that's not what I came for so that's all I'll say about them.
I’m not a big fan of Thunderbolts but I’ve been following the Marvel NOW! series and I was glad to see Daniel Way exit on the last volume and comic book wunderkind Charles Soule step in to take over. And then I saw the heading to the book - Infinity.
Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh. Infinity. That pile’a crap from last year when Jonathan Hickman brought Thanos back and did some stuff that didn’t matter, bored the world, and then left. I did not like Infinity at all. It was a bloated, over-hyped series that was severely underwhelming - a regular Marvel Event basically.
So I was surprised when I found Soule had somehow managed to make something decent out of the Infinity hand he’d been dealt.
When General Ross aka Red Hulk recruited the current Thunderbolts team, part of his sell was that in exchange for their help on his missions, he would lend the team’s support on their own individual missions - as Deadpool puts it, “We’re the selfish Avengers”. This time around, Punisher gets to pick the target so the Thunderbolts head to New York to take out a seemingly untouchable Mafia lynchpin family - and that’s when Thanos’ army attacks!
New York. Aliens invading. Sounds very Avengers movie, no? It is - but not as exciting. Soule decides to split the team into various groups with different stories of varying interest: Punisher, Venom and Elektra go to take out the mob; Red Hulk, Leader and Mercy become embroiled in alien skirmishes; and Deadpool goes for pizza.
The Punisher storyline is ok up to a point but once him, Venom and Elektra make it into the bunker where all the mafia dudes are, it becomes drawn out for no reason. Frank Castle, armed to the teeth, walks into a room full of gangsters: how long do you expect that scene to last - Frank kills everyone in a minute, maybe two? I think the only reason it went on for as long as it did was because Soule was told to keep the plates spinning while events in Infinity reached its climax with the detonation of the terrigen bomb, which plays into this book.
The Red Hulk/Leader/Mercy storyline just didn’t grab me at all. Leader’s trying to sabotage things on the sly and Mercy is just a ridiculously powerful character whose motivations are too abstract for me to care about. They basically hang about staring at the massive alien fleet and wondering how to defeat it until Red Hulk says the right thing to Mercy who single-handedly blows everything up!
The Deadpool storyline - eh. He gets pizza, does some silly things, kills some bad guys - it’s Deadpool 101. Not too boring but not too interesting either.
The bookend issues aren’t that good either. One focuses on part of Mercy’s backstory and because I don’t care about Mercy, I just wanted the issue to end, and the other is a kind of dream sequence with the Leader that was just pointless.
I really liked Jefte Palo’s art which doesn’t look like superhero comic art and feels more indie-like, so I found it refreshing to see such typically massive, dramatically Marvel things happening rendered in a different way.
I definitely like this new creative team for Thunderbolts and I don’t put its failings down to Soule entirely - I think he’s basically given a broad outline of a story and told to fill in the blanks - but it’s still not a great volume that’s got some ok moments but generally feels overlong and dull for the most part. Now that Infinity’s over and done with and the Thunderbolts are headed (literally and figuratively) in a new direction, I think the next volume will be a more satisfying read. But for a book filled with Infinity crap, it was much better than I expected.
This starts out fine, and no one wants Soule to be the Wunderkind more than me. We need more amazing writers in comics. I *want* more amazing writers in comics.
This small-time, low-key one-mission-at-a-time premise is definitely lowball, and I want it to kick up a few notches but I'll wait to see how Soule handles it.
Decent surface-level use of most characters. Amusing Deadpool moments (mostly). Intriguing Red Leader. Boring Elektra. Way-too-decent Flash Thompson. Punisher is Punisher.
Jefte Palo gives odd art style, and amazingly it sticks around throughout the book - it's not fill-in, it's the real thing. Totally off-center exaggerated mental head trip - Red Hulk has a jaw that Kirk Douglas would kill for and Magic Mike would blow another dude for. It's like Chew on bad Chilean steroids.
Turns out that all told, this book is *fun*. I didn't get it at first, but it's just ridiculous enough, without going over the line into Duggan-level Deadpool garbage puns and stupid one-liners.
I think I'm going to enjoy this one, the more it proceeds. God help us, Soule can use an artist like Palo to keep him from coming off too earnest.
I'm wavering between three and four stars on this book, and I invited Soule and Palo to come over and...convince me. Palo was standoffish but Soule negotiated a killer deal - I think I may have lost rights to my immortal soul but I can't get past page 305's contract clauses so I'll worry about that in ten years.
Charles Soule takes the reins in Thunderbolts Vol. 3, and the addition of a new Rider shakes things up nicely! This volume delivers exactly what you'd expect when Frank Castle is calling the shots: a brutal mission targeting mobsters. Of course, what else would the Punisher have in mind for this crew?
Meanwhile, Red Hulk's dealing with an alien invasion, but honestly, that storyline felt like the least engaging part of the book for me. The real intrigue lies with the final issue, where the Thinker is up to some truly disturbing stuff, setting the stage for a potentially chaotic future for the Thunderbolts.
While the writing is a definite highlight, Soule has a fantastic grasp of the characters, especially Flash Thompson and Frank Castle, the artwork, unfortunately, leaves much to be desired. It's a struggle to find anything positive to say about it; the character renderings are consistently rough.
Despite the disappointing art, the strong writing makes this another surprisingly enjoyable installment. I'm giving Thunderbolts Vol. 3 a solid 3 out of 5 stars.
Art can make a story but it can also truly hamper one. Jefte Palo's work was incredibly subpar here. It did not fit the title in any way and completely made the book worse for wear. The story here also wasn't that good as this team makes little sense. Agent Venom, Ross, and Elektra all make moral choices here that don't really line up with their characters. This was an Infinity tie-in in the loosest of senses. The redeeming factor here is the subplot with Red Leader. Overall, this series has been pretty disappointing.
🇵🇱 Historia mercy, misja Punishera przerwana przez najazd Supergiant i pionków Thanos dokończona przez Deadpoola.. i powrót mózga czerwonego lidera..
🇺🇸 The story of Mercy, The Punisher's mission interrupted by the invasion of Supergiant and Thanos pawns completed by Deadpool.. and the return of the Red leader's brain..
Some good spots here and there, but this series is overall hugely disappointing. I'm glad to be done with this volume. Don't think I'll read any more. Down side to Marvel Unlimited...I get sidetracked and taken down this never-ending path of tangent stories (for the sake of having read it all and needing to know EVERY reference). Gonna start focusing on the good stuff. There are lots of great stories I want to get to.
Charles Soule does it again - he takes this book which has been floundering about and manages to make it not only readable but enjoyable too. The new concept of missions for the team mixes things up nicely, and he runs with the characters so well that its as if they're writing themselves at some points. The only let down here is the artwork - Phil Noto and Gabriel Hernandez Walta both pencil one issue each, which are excellent, but Jefte Palo draws the main Infinity story and his work is often out of proportion and very odd. It works for the sillier moments (mostly with Deadpool), but the rest of the time it just seems out of place.
Started a bit slow. But once things began to escalate, things started to move at a pretty good pace. Deadpool really makes this series. Nothing better than overly violent comic relief!
Ktoś wreszcie poszedł po rozum do głowy i przy serii Thunderbolts nastąpiła zmiana na fotelu autora. Soule nie jest wprawdzie jakimś topowym pisarzem, ale jego opowieść czyta się z pewnym zainteresowaniem, a i całości towarzyszy inna oprawa graficzna. Nieco bardziej kreskówkowa, przerysowana. Pasująca do historii. Pan Palo odrobił kawałek dobrej roboty. Męskie postacie maja tutaj mocno zarysowane szczęki, zaś Elektra wreszcie wygląda kobieco, co wcześniej było dość wątpliwe. Co więcej, kreska pasuje do przerysowanej przemocy, którą nam tutaj zaprezentowano.
Historia jest prosta, aczkolwiek nie jest to wadą. Początek poświęcono wytłumaczeniu skąd do licha wzięła się Mercy. Jest to w jakiś sposób satysfakcjonujące, aczkolwiek nie zostało do końca wytłumaczone, co osobiście dla mnie jest zaletą. Mercy pozostaje zabójczą, niewytłumaczoną siłą, która czerpie siły z pozbawiania przez nią życia ludzi, którzy pragną swojego końca, choć wątek z hinduską boginią Kali uważam za "lekko" przesadzony. Choć chyba wolałbym takie coś, niż fabuły zaprezentowane nam w poprzednich obu tomach.
Ross widząc problemy w drużynie postanawia nieco zmienić koncepcje ich pracy. Zgadza się na wykonywanie co drugą misję zadania wyznaczonego przez losowo wybranego członka grupy. Pierwszy wybór pada na Punishera, ale ten nie jest oryginalny. Mściciel pragnie dorwać specyficzną grupę gangsterów, którzy stanowią trzon całej śmietanki gangsterskiej Nowego Jorku, przez co nawet po rzezi, ta wraca do poprzedniego stanu funkcjonowania, gdyż zawsze znajduje się ktoś na zastępstwo. Paguro jednak nie są na całkiem straconej pozycji, bowiem akurat w momencie całej operacji zaczyna się wydarzenie zwane Nieskończonością... Jest tu kilka spojlerów, bowiem nagle na niebie dochodzi do eksplozji i miasto pokrywa zielona mgiełka, ale nie są one jakieś duże jak... Armia obcych, atakująca Ziemię. Mamy tu też dziecię Czarnego Zakonu Thanosa, które dybie na intelekt Czerwonego Leadera, aczkolwiek jest to krótki wątek z niewykorzystanym potencjałem.
Jest tu kilka zabawnych sytuacji, jak cały wątek Deadpoola, który prawie na początku opuszcza chwilowo grupę, po to aby... Zjeść pizze. Scena z dziewczynką w metrze mnie rozbiła. Wreszcie trafił się autor, który potrafi wykorzystać potencjał komediowy Najemnika z Nawijką w tej serii.
To co mi się nie podobało, to jednak w pewnych momentach oprawa graficzna. Albo naiwność fabuły, która stawiała bohaterów przed czynami całkowicie sprzecznym z ich dotychczasowymi modus operandi. Najbardziej bolała mnie chyba naiwność Venoma. Raziła mnie też zmiana w zachowaniu Mercy i nieco przekombinowany plan Czerwonego Leadera. Po co zaczynał swój misterny plan, skoro i tak go porzucił. Do reszty nie mam zastrzeżeń. Mimo wszystko w końcu polecam.
Charles Soule joining as writer has a marked improvement on the series. Characters are much more distinguished and operate with their own objectives and distinct personalities instead of a gelatinous military unit.
Punisher takes centre stage as he gets his chance to lead the team on a mission to further his own agenda as New York's foremost mob killer. Deadpool has some genuinely funny moments bouncing off Castle's hard ass demeanour. The conversations feel like real conversations, not just exposition shouted at one another.
Was pleasantly surprised with this volume, despite being titled "Infinity" as a tie in to the Avengers event, it stands on its own as part of the wider Marvel landscape without being a jarring departure from the status quo of the book.
Feels like this series is starting to get back on the track I expected it to be on from issue 1.
I love the dynamic between these misfits and how they "want to do good" but they're just not very good at it, except by accident. The art in this is pretty extreme so I'm sure it's a love/hate thing for most people and I loved it as something different, but I can definitely see people totally hating it.
Writing and dialogue was hilarious and the whole idea that there's a full-scale invasion of Earth happening and the Thunderbolts are only interacting with it when they have to, because they have other things to do like fight crime lords is great!
This turned out better than it started, the art grew on me through the volume though it definitely has some issues like Elektra’s almost complete lack of personality/character, despite some charm the art definitely suffers in places, especially with the aliens, there are a few one-liners that really land well and the resolution is great. 3.5 stars if I could but since it surprised me a little at the end I bumped it up.
A new member joins the team. It's Punishers time to get his mission done, only problem is that there is an alien invasion going on at the same time, and Deadpool wants to stop for pizza.
A lot of fun, the mission is kind of what you would expect from Punisher. Mercy, the new team member, has a very intriguing power. A good read.
A great series of stories, occasionally marred by some dodgy art. Palo seems to challenge himself to make the Leader’s head bigger in every panel—his blocky style is frequently ludicrous. Thankfully, the cool stories, dose of well-placed humour, and good dialogue forgive the occasional eyesore. A very enjoyable entry in this fun, bloody series.
Z tomu na tom coraz lepiej. Znów prosta fabuła ale to nie minus. Po przeczytaniu 3 części gdzie na początku nie przepadałam za połączeniem tych postaci w jednej drużynie to teraz mam inne podejście. Deadpool to mój faworyt jak, że inaczej. Cała ekipa ma niezłą chemię. Wizulnie nie podobało mi się zbytnio, puki co najlepiej wypada kreska tomu 2. 7,5/10⭐️
Meh. There were some nice amusing moments here, but like most tie-in comics, this one was rather weak. Although I will Soule props for telling a stronger complete story than most tie-bin books manage.
WTF happened to the artwork? We start out with Dillon in book one (I know he is not everyone's cup of tea, but I think he is first-rate) to Phil Noto (who I think most would agree does great work when he has the time for it,...) to here, book 3 with what looks like,... well ... "Deadpool" art. But regardless, the artist did a good job. (Either I grew to like it, or the writing overwhelmed it, not sure which.) But as this writing is so Good, a less cartoonish, and exaggerated style would have changed everything. But this writing is so fun, ... the book endured.
Great group of characters, very well handled by writer Soule, in great (outrageous) scenarios.
This volume had a big change of direction as compared to the previous one. The art style is a lot more cartoonish, and while it is still a collection of dark and gritty characters, there is a lot of humor here. The tie-in to the Infinity event is rather tangential, though it does involve aliens and some new Inhumans. Overall, this was an enjoyable, if rather weird crime story. It was definitely different than the previous volumes, but still quite good, and I think I am more interested in reading more of this than I would be reading more of the previous two.
Soule is at his best in the individual issues. The spotlights on Mercy (#13) and Red Leader (#19) are both tight and interesting character studies. The longer Punisher mission (#14-18) is an improvement over Way's extreme militarism, because Soule does interesting things with characterization (especially for Deadpool!) and also presents a funny interaction of a mob-killing with an alien-invasion. Still, that's never used to its best effect and there are a couple of issues of mindless fighting.
Overall, some great singletons, with a more mediocre filling.
I read this as part of Infinity and loved it so much that I plan on going back to read all the Thunderbolts stuff from Marvel Now. I felt the issues fit in well with the rest of the event, offering both a break and a good story with many funny moments. The art work is not what I'm used to when it comes to comic books, but it fit really well with the title, team, and type of story they were trying to tell. Plus, Deadpool was at his best.