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Ms. Marvel (2006) (Collected Editions) #8
Ms. Marvel Vol. 8: War of the Marvels
Collects Ms. Marvel (2005) #42-46. WAR OF THE MARVELS begins! Karla Sofen battles for her life in the streets of Los Angeles as an exciting new chapter in the history of Ms. Marvel begins! Guest starring the New Avengers and...someone we can't tell you about.
118 pages, Kindle Edition
First published January 6, 2010
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February 11, 2021
It's War of the Marvels as Moonstone masquerading as Ms. Marvel in the Dark Avengers fights two aspects of the real Ms. Marvel. It gets a bit confusing and repetitive at times but it's not bad. Reed tends to leave some connective bits of the story out at times that would make the story more cohesive. Sana Takeda's art is very solid if heavily Manga influenced.
April 12, 2011
The story was really good, but the art was
amazing
!
June 17, 2012
Seriously, the first cover of the first issue has Moonstone spreading her legs like a Playboy model? I *think* Reed and his artists mostly get past that, but there's still a lot of skintight costumes and prominently thrust-out bosoms on display here.
Which makes it harder to take the woman-a-woman war here completely seriously. There's a slight undertone of exploitation movie to the proceedings, even though the story itself (the plot's bones) is pretty self-actualizational.
Carol & Catherine struggle to figure out who they are and why they don't feel right "on their own", which has echoes back to Superman III. Still, it's an interesting step on the way towards a breakthrough change for Carol (though not the most helpful storyline on its own). Seeing Ms. Marvel battling Moonstone over and over is a bit tedious, but the undercurrent of "who should wear the mantle of Ms. Marvel" is a tension worth exploring - especially as an outgrowth of the Dark Avengers era.
Much of the art is great, I'll admit, but the wildly different styles as always make it hard to stay in the same mood while reading through the trade.
Here are my plot notes because i can never remember who when and what, when I'm reading later books:
Which makes it harder to take the woman-a-woman war here completely seriously. There's a slight undertone of exploitation movie to the proceedings, even though the story itself (the plot's bones) is pretty self-actualizational.
Carol & Catherine struggle to figure out who they are and why they don't feel right "on their own", which has echoes back to Superman III. Still, it's an interesting step on the way towards a breakthrough change for Carol (though not the most helpful storyline on its own). Seeing Ms. Marvel battling Moonstone over and over is a bit tedious, but the undercurrent of "who should wear the mantle of Ms. Marvel" is a tension worth exploring - especially as an outgrowth of the Dark Avengers era.
Much of the art is great, I'll admit, but the wildly different styles as always make it hard to stay in the same mood while reading through the trade.
Here are my plot notes because i can never remember who when and what, when I'm reading later books:
January 23, 2015
Classic Ms Marvel/ Carol Danvers is back from the dead. She fights Dark Avengers Ms Marvel...dopplegangers,and more. Great artwork,and excellent story.
January 8, 2013
Being a big Thunderbolts fan I couldn't help but thoroughly enjoy the Karla vs Carol Danvers battle for the mantel of Ms. Marvel. This ended up being on of my favorite volumes in this run of Ms. Marvel, despite a few flaws.
What flaws? Well, Danvers death and rebirth was oddly written. Of course no reader actually believed she was dead, but the way the story was told going forward and backward in time over the past book or so was a little odd and made parts of it hard to follow. This was also one of the many times where I felt I didn't really know what level of power Carol has, it really does go up and down depending on what the current writer needs. The art was another minor gripe. It was all great, but it changed so constantly it took away from the story. And there were a few artists that although quite good I didn't feel their style fit the story.
What flaws? Well, Danvers death and rebirth was oddly written. Of course no reader actually believed she was dead, but the way the story was told going forward and backward in time over the past book or so was a little odd and made parts of it hard to follow. This was also one of the many times where I felt I didn't really know what level of power Carol has, it really does go up and down depending on what the current writer needs. The art was another minor gripe. It was all great, but it changed so constantly it took away from the story. And there were a few artists that although quite good I didn't feel their style fit the story.
June 15, 2019
This volume had some pretty cool ideas that weren’t delved into deep enough in my opinion. The art, while pretty, was not actually good it was very hard to tell various characters apart esp. Carol and Karla
November 6, 2015
This story I cool even if I'm not sure what the heck is going on! There are so many version of Ms Marvel! It's fun though with lots of action.
Really like the art in this one too. Even if Karla is also suffering with the costume up the bum crack issue!
Really like the art in this one too. Even if Karla is also suffering with the costume up the bum crack issue!
January 19, 2023
Slightly repetitive with Ms Marvel vs. Ms. Marvel. But quite an interesting storyline with Moonstone as Ms Marvel battling the different aspects and personalities of Carol Danvers.
It seems that when Carol came back to live, she was split into two. Ms. Marvel and Catherine Donovan, but neither feel whole. Eventually, it's revealed that the story makers gave Carol her wish. But in times of need, a hero is always a hero, and Carol proves she's the hero she wants to be. Her aspect becomes joined once again, and Ms. Marvel is whole again.
Art is lovely, if a little racy at time. I've enjoyed this storyline, but Moonstone vs. Ms. Marvel several times got a little boring. Could have been wrapped up a bit faster and not lost anything in the story.
It seems that when Carol came back to live, she was split into two. Ms. Marvel and Catherine Donovan, but neither feel whole. Eventually, it's revealed that the story makers gave Carol her wish. But in times of need, a hero is always a hero, and Carol proves she's the hero she wants to be. Her aspect becomes joined once again, and Ms. Marvel is whole again.
Art is lovely, if a little racy at time. I've enjoyed this storyline, but Moonstone vs. Ms. Marvel several times got a little boring. Could have been wrapped up a bit faster and not lost anything in the story.
March 15, 2017
This was another quick read with some awesome artwork, but talk about confusing. There's a one-liner explanation that the Storyteller project was responsible for the multiple Carol's, but I don't remember that part of the story on the previous volume - maybe it wasn't ever mentioned. Still, fans of Danvers will enjoy seeing Karla Sofen continue to play the Ms Marvel role in her place, and be glad when balance is finally restored.
January 9, 2019
This is the War of the Marvels featuring an epic battle between Carol Danvers and Karla Sofen for who will be the one and only Ms. Marvel.
The battle between Carol and Karla is epic. The action is intense with each using their power. Carol's a warrior with skills and grit that Karla just doesn't possess, but Karla's advantage is that she's just a ruthless psychopath. Both maintain a line of talking smack that would make most wrestler bow before them and declare in Wayne World'seque fashion, "We are not worthy!"
The book is not one big battle scene. They're interspersed in between Karla and Norman Osborn trying to figure out what they're supposed to do and the journey of Catherine Donovan from LA to New York as she deals without doubts about her own identity. The question of who Donovan is and how exactly this all happened is a bit of a contrivance, but it doesn't ruin the story.
The finale is superb. It leads to a definitive end to the war, a reveal of Karla, and Carol stepping up in probably the most interesting thing she's done in the entire Ms. Marvel series.
Overall, while this is not a great character-defining arc for Carol Danvers, it is a great ride of a story that makes for a fun read.
The battle between Carol and Karla is epic. The action is intense with each using their power. Carol's a warrior with skills and grit that Karla just doesn't possess, but Karla's advantage is that she's just a ruthless psychopath. Both maintain a line of talking smack that would make most wrestler bow before them and declare in Wayne World'seque fashion, "We are not worthy!"
The book is not one big battle scene. They're interspersed in between Karla and Norman Osborn trying to figure out what they're supposed to do and the journey of Catherine Donovan from LA to New York as she deals without doubts about her own identity. The question of who Donovan is and how exactly this all happened is a bit of a contrivance, but it doesn't ruin the story.
The finale is superb. It leads to a definitive end to the war, a reveal of Karla, and Carol stepping up in probably the most interesting thing she's done in the entire Ms. Marvel series.
Overall, while this is not a great character-defining arc for Carol Danvers, it is a great ride of a story that makes for a fun read.
June 1, 2019
Sweet fancy Moses.
The story is so airless and tepid that you'd imagine that it was written by a classroom of 11 year-olds as an after-school detention assignment.
The pencils are no better. While buxom blondes abound if you read comicbooks, the way that Carol and Karla are drawn is so perversely deformed that I feel guilty reading this in front of my girlfriend.
Don't. Seriously...just, don't.
The story is so airless and tepid that you'd imagine that it was written by a classroom of 11 year-olds as an after-school detention assignment.
The pencils are no better. While buxom blondes abound if you read comicbooks, the way that Carol and Karla are drawn is so perversely deformed that I feel guilty reading this in front of my girlfriend.
Don't. Seriously...just, don't.
June 19, 2018
So far all my encounters of Ms. Marvel involve her fighting some alternate version of herself and doing very little "super heroing".
This story line was a little confusing but the art work was great.
This story line was a little confusing but the art work was great.
April 5, 2018
More of the same that Brian Reed has been doing with this title.
April 23, 2018
4 1/2 This book was complicated but oh so much fun!! Where do we go from here? One more volume to go.
February 10, 2019
Got a little surreal there with the "storyteller babies" changing reality. Seems like they should have given an update on those babies since they're so powerful.
February 22, 2019
This one would have been more fun if it weren't so messy and hurried to clean up the "multiple Marvel" mess.
July 17, 2022
really enjoyed it!! not a lot going on plotwise but the fight scenes were incredible and we're given some more elements to what exactly happened when carol got resurrected
July 14, 2013
Some days I'm frustrated by my own lack of comic book knowledge because I come across volumes like this which I should probably enjoy -- but I'm left confused because I don't have the background and, I think, they tend to rely too much on me having that background.
That said, there really isn't much plot in this one. It's just one long fight-scene between Marvel and Marvel and... Yeah, that gets old. What there is of plot is maybe 6 pages, I think.
I was disappointed with this volume, honestly.
That said, there really isn't much plot in this one. It's just one long fight-scene between Marvel and Marvel and... Yeah, that gets old. What there is of plot is maybe 6 pages, I think.
I was disappointed with this volume, honestly.
July 22, 2013
They've been building up to this confrontation for a while and now they deliver on a great story. It's fast-paced, fun and very entertaining. I came away with an appreciation for Moonstone as a character and hope we haven't seen the last of her.
I was not a fan though of the alternating art styles here. I really liked the manga style art in some issues (I presume these were the ones drawn by Sana Takeda) but I really disliked the art in the alt issues.
I was not a fan though of the alternating art styles here. I really liked the manga style art in some issues (I presume these were the ones drawn by Sana Takeda) but I really disliked the art in the alt issues.
March 30, 2013
Probably my favorite Ms. Marvel trade to date. Part of the identity struggle felt like a rehash from earlier volumes, the dialogue was awful, and the art, while technically sound, bordered on the ridiculous at times. Still, the plot moved, there was plenty of action, and the characters felt somewhat realistic.
June 14, 2011
Loved it. It was really good seeing Carol again. She really is a superhero. Still no sympathy for Karla.
June 10, 2011
4 stars for the artwork, story just an excuse to bring back Ms Marvel.
January 22, 2013
Probably the best I've ever read of Ms. Marvel. I guess that's good? Eh.
May 15, 2016
The art is pretty good but the story arc completely mystifies me. I think I'll stick with DeConnick's runs on Captain Marvel for my future reading.
April 24, 2016
Everything about her storyline is always nuts. I'd love to read a couple books where we just follow Carol doing regular super hero stuff.
June 21, 2017
Read as single issues
June 16, 2017
Ms. Marvel and Moonstone fight against each other when she comes back to life and her death is explained.
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