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Ultimate Comics: Avengers vs. New Ultimates
Collects Ultimate Comics Avengers vs. New Ultimates #1-6. The two most powerful super teams in the Ultimate Universe collide in the brawl of the century! A misunderstanding has brought these two colossal teams to blows and their battle may just spell the end for the Ultimate world!
140 pages, Kindle Edition
First published August 1, 2011
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Mark Millar
1,512 books2,565 followersMark Millar is the New York Times best-selling writer of Wanted, the Kick-Ass series, The Secret Service, Jupiter’s Legacy, Jupiter’s Circle, Nemesis, Superior, Super Crooks, American Jesus, MPH, Starlight, and Chrononauts. Wanted, Kick-Ass, Kick-Ass 2, and The Secret Service (as Kingsman: The Secret Service) have been adapted into feature films, and Nemesis, Superior, Starlight, War Heroes, Jupiter’s Legacy and Chrononauts are in development at major studios.
His DC Comics work includes the seminal Superman: Red Son, and at Marvel Comics he created The Ultimates – selected by Time magazine as the comic book of the decade, Wolverine: Old Man Logan, and Civil War – the industry’s biggest-selling superhero series in almost two decades.
Mark has been an Executive Producer on all his movie adaptations and is currently creative consultant to Fox Studios on their Marvel slate of movies.
His DC Comics work includes the seminal Superman: Red Son, and at Marvel Comics he created The Ultimates – selected by Time magazine as the comic book of the decade, Wolverine: Old Man Logan, and Civil War – the industry’s biggest-selling superhero series in almost two decades.
Mark has been an Executive Producer on all his movie adaptations and is currently creative consultant to Fox Studios on their Marvel slate of movies.
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April 29, 2012
One of the things I’ve liked about Marvel’s Ultimate universe is the way that the rise of super powered people plays out in terms of politics. The creation of Captain America during World War II kicked off an arms race that has resulted in decades of efforts to create another super soldier and inadvertently led to the rise of the post-humans and mutants.
In the Ultimate world, America has kept its edge with super humans largely due to the efforts of Nick Fury in his former role as director of SHIELD with his creation of The Ultimates as the government’s official superhero team, and he's worked hard to keep the biological and technogical advances needed to create post-humans out of the hands of anyone else.
Fury not only managed the public face of America’s response to super powered threats, he’s also a sneaky bastard who ran the covert operations as well as being a skilled political player that made him one of the most powerful men in the world. Unfortunately, he lost that gig to Carol Danvers when one of his ops went bad in a public way. But when a guy like Fury decides to get his job back, it’s impossible to know what he’s capable of or how deep a game he’s playing. When Fury’s covert black ops group of Avengers seemingly gets evidence that Carol has turned traitor and has been supplying rogue nations like North Korea with the tech to develop post-humans, you’re not sure if it’s true or if Fury is setting her up. Adding to the confusion, Danvers gets intel fingering Fury as the traitor. That sets The Ultimates and The Avengers on a collision course and we’re not sure who is being played.
In a battle like this that’s being waged as both a very public super hero brawl and a behind-the-scenes political knife fight, it’s inevitable that there will be collateral damage. In this case, it’s Spider-Man who pays the price. This private little war results in Spider-Man being badly wounded while saving one of the Ultimates, prevents him from getting medical attention afterwards and leaves all the other so-called heroes to busy to help him as he fights a pack of his worst enemies alone.
Making Peter Parker the innocent who gets caught in the crossfire is fitting here. From the start of the Ultimate line, poor Spider-Man was often overwhelmed and unprepared for the level of violence and psychotic villains who came his way. Guys like Nick Fury and Captain America admired his bravery but acted like he was a spaz who would need years to turn into someone worthy of playing at their level.
Yet it was always the fifteen year old Spider-Man who was determined to help however he could with nothing but a homemade costume, and he was usually publicly berated for it while The Ultimates got a billion dollar headquarters and an army’s worth of support and were treated as heroes. While Fury and The Ultimates were off fighting each other to see who would get to save the world, it was Peter Parker who got killed saving people.
In the Ultimate world, America has kept its edge with super humans largely due to the efforts of Nick Fury in his former role as director of SHIELD with his creation of The Ultimates as the government’s official superhero team, and he's worked hard to keep the biological and technogical advances needed to create post-humans out of the hands of anyone else.
Fury not only managed the public face of America’s response to super powered threats, he’s also a sneaky bastard who ran the covert operations as well as being a skilled political player that made him one of the most powerful men in the world. Unfortunately, he lost that gig to Carol Danvers when one of his ops went bad in a public way. But when a guy like Fury decides to get his job back, it’s impossible to know what he’s capable of or how deep a game he’s playing. When Fury’s covert black ops group of Avengers seemingly gets evidence that Carol has turned traitor and has been supplying rogue nations like North Korea with the tech to develop post-humans, you’re not sure if it’s true or if Fury is setting her up. Adding to the confusion, Danvers gets intel fingering Fury as the traitor. That sets The Ultimates and The Avengers on a collision course and we’re not sure who is being played.
In a battle like this that’s being waged as both a very public super hero brawl and a behind-the-scenes political knife fight, it’s inevitable that there will be collateral damage. In this case, it’s Spider-Man who pays the price. This private little war results in Spider-Man being badly wounded while saving one of the Ultimates, prevents him from getting medical attention afterwards and leaves all the other so-called heroes to busy to help him as he fights a pack of his worst enemies alone.
Making Peter Parker the innocent who gets caught in the crossfire is fitting here. From the start of the Ultimate line, poor Spider-Man was often overwhelmed and unprepared for the level of violence and psychotic villains who came his way. Guys like Nick Fury and Captain America admired his bravery but acted like he was a spaz who would need years to turn into someone worthy of playing at their level.
Yet it was always the fifteen year old Spider-Man who was determined to help however he could with nothing but a homemade costume, and he was usually publicly berated for it while The Ultimates got a billion dollar headquarters and an army’s worth of support and were treated as heroes. While Fury and The Ultimates were off fighting each other to see who would get to save the world, it was Peter Parker who got killed saving people.
August 31, 2022
This was quite fun lol as we have Avengers vs New Ultimates meaning Carol vs Fury's team at each others throat and I love the way these teams go at each other and it makes for a wild read and then we see the trouble Tony is going through and all that and what's happening to Fury and the big battle and the moment with Spider-man that led me to read this volume and yeah its a fun read and by the end of it we see who the villain is and the motive but the interesting thing is what happens in the end and the fallout of it omg.
Yeah the ending would be controversial for sure, and yeah it gets political and I don't wanna get into all that but honestly its only Ultimate universe they could have done it in, never 616. Also that moment with Spidey is so emotional and you can feel the thing with 1610 is gonna change for good now.
Yeah the ending would be controversial for sure, and yeah it gets political and I don't wanna get into all that but honestly its only Ultimate universe they could have done it in, never 616. Also that moment with Spidey is so emotional and you can feel the thing with 1610 is gonna change for good now.
January 15, 2020
The first 3 and a half issues are pretty good and then...lolz...stupid ass shit.
So the first three issues actually build up nicely to the confrontation in the title. When Cap and Thor find a guy who's been given the super soldier sirum turn and become a monster before dying they've had enough of this SHIELD shit. On the flipside have Nick Fury trying to find out who's controlling who, and the secrets behind that. All pretty good and the fight is epic when you see everyone fight. It feels gritty but also exciting and fun.
Then the 2nd half kicks in and it's fucking stupid, dull, and the plot twist is so horrible. Oh don't get me started on how bad a character Tony Stark's brother is. Also...the amount of exposition at the end is insane. Like in a dumb fucking boring way.
So yeah first half is like a 3.5 but second half is awful. So 2 in total.
So the first three issues actually build up nicely to the confrontation in the title. When Cap and Thor find a guy who's been given the super soldier sirum turn and become a monster before dying they've had enough of this SHIELD shit. On the flipside have Nick Fury trying to find out who's controlling who, and the secrets behind that. All pretty good and the fight is epic when you see everyone fight. It feels gritty but also exciting and fun.
Then the 2nd half kicks in and it's fucking stupid, dull, and the plot twist is so horrible. Oh don't get me started on how bad a character Tony Stark's brother is. Also...the amount of exposition at the end is insane. Like in a dumb fucking boring way.
So yeah first half is like a 3.5 but second half is awful. So 2 in total.
December 20, 2018
This is the first Ultimate book by Millar I've read since Ultimates 2 (and even that was quite a while ago). It felt like I was missing parts of the story at times. I've only read this now because it's included in The Death of Spider-man omnibus. I guess it's kind of cool how the two stories connect, even if it's just for a couple of pages. Also, I wasn't very keen on the group of Hulk'd up heroes. But, fall all the faults the story as, it's a damn pretty book.
September 30, 2011
Here's the thing with Mark Millar's run on the Ultimates/Avengers line - if you've liked it thus far, you'll like this also, and vice versa. The only thing I will say is that it's not as good as previous volumes, I'm thinking of when Ghost Rider was out to assassinate the Vice President or when Cap became a vamp and it was up to Blade to take him down.
In this final volume we see the death of a couple of characters, one of them major, and if you've been paying any attention to comics news recently, you'll know exactly which big character I'm talking about. This book shows him taking the first hit that will lead to his eventual death in another volume, "The Death of Spiderman" by Brian Michael Bendis, and is pretty unexpected. That said, the guy who instigates it, behaves afterward in a very strange way. I'm a huge fan of the character that takes down Spidey and I read this thinking "he wouldn't react like this". But hey this is "Ultimates" so it's not canon right?
Plus, one of the things that's made Millar such a polarising figure for Marvel fans is the way he does interesting things with characters - there are a number of instances in the book where I'm certain some readers will be outraged and think Millar's gone too far, it's too stupid, but relax, it's just superheroes doing far out stuff - it's what the man's paid to do and he does it well.
If anything, Millar's made this series revolve around a series of real world politics from post 9/11 policing in America, to blind patriotism, and here we see the Iranian Green Revolution taking place in the Ultimates universe as well as an unlikely revolution in North Korea. Millar's introduction of a couple of lesser known characters gives him an easy way out for pinning the evil onto them and wrapping things up with everything almost the way it was before (albeit minus Spidey).
It's a fun, mindless romp with some of the best superheroes ever created. Millar doesn't hold back and while this isn't the best book in the series he's written, it's far from his worst and is very readable to boot.
In this final volume we see the death of a couple of characters, one of them major, and if you've been paying any attention to comics news recently, you'll know exactly which big character I'm talking about. This book shows him taking the first hit that will lead to his eventual death in another volume, "The Death of Spiderman" by Brian Michael Bendis, and is pretty unexpected. That said, the guy who instigates it, behaves afterward in a very strange way. I'm a huge fan of the character that takes down Spidey and I read this thinking "he wouldn't react like this". But hey this is "Ultimates" so it's not canon right?
Plus, one of the things that's made Millar such a polarising figure for Marvel fans is the way he does interesting things with characters - there are a number of instances in the book where I'm certain some readers will be outraged and think Millar's gone too far, it's too stupid, but relax, it's just superheroes doing far out stuff - it's what the man's paid to do and he does it well.
If anything, Millar's made this series revolve around a series of real world politics from post 9/11 policing in America, to blind patriotism, and here we see the Iranian Green Revolution taking place in the Ultimates universe as well as an unlikely revolution in North Korea. Millar's introduction of a couple of lesser known characters gives him an easy way out for pinning the evil onto them and wrapping things up with everything almost the way it was before (albeit minus Spidey).
It's a fun, mindless romp with some of the best superheroes ever created. Millar doesn't hold back and while this isn't the best book in the series he's written, it's far from his worst and is very readable to boot.
June 5, 2012
Maybe I'm not as well-versed in the Ultimate universe as I need to be, maybe Millar doesn't care about providing back story and is only concerned with writing "kewl" scenes, or maybe this was just a bad effort all-around.
You're dropped into the story with the expectation that you'll know exactly what is going on and how all of the characters got into the places they were for the plot to be where it's at (seriously, there's no setup, you're just dropped right in). Even just a one-page recap would help, but anyways...
The setting up of Fury's team is interesting, but once you get into the good guys vs. other good guys plot, it plays on rote plot mechanisms that have been used hundreds of times before and ultimately comes down to a series of "You're doomed now." "No I'm not, I have this secret thing up my sleeve." "Ah, but I can counteract that with this secret thing!" etc. etc. etc. moments.
I've given Millar the benefit of the doubt many times, but I just can't here. This is a lazy effort that you'd be better off skipping.
You're dropped into the story with the expectation that you'll know exactly what is going on and how all of the characters got into the places they were for the plot to be where it's at (seriously, there's no setup, you're just dropped right in). Even just a one-page recap would help, but anyways...
The setting up of Fury's team is interesting, but once you get into the good guys vs. other good guys plot, it plays on rote plot mechanisms that have been used hundreds of times before and ultimately comes down to a series of "You're doomed now." "No I'm not, I have this secret thing up my sleeve." "Ah, but I can counteract that with this secret thing!" etc. etc. etc. moments.
I've given Millar the benefit of the doubt many times, but I just can't here. This is a lazy effort that you'd be better off skipping.
April 12, 2019
A small corner of the Universe now makes a lot more sense. Well, someone else's Universe. Specifically Marvel Comic's Ultimate Universe.
Say you've found out that top agents defending the world against threats were selling secrets to the enemy? And suppose they had found that you were selling secrets. It's an all-out war of Ultimate vs. Ultimate, with the unaffiliated caught in the crossfire, and Spider-Man caught in the cross-hairs!
2019 April 04 Update: Well. I had it marked as Want To Read, so I read it. Or re-read it, since I knew in the first issue of the collection that I had read it before.
Who knows, who I indulge in these minor insanities?
Say you've found out that top agents defending the world against threats were selling secrets to the enemy? And suppose they had found that you were selling secrets. It's an all-out war of Ultimate vs. Ultimate, with the unaffiliated caught in the crossfire, and Spider-Man caught in the cross-hairs!
2019 April 04 Update: Well. I had it marked as Want To Read, so I read it. Or re-read it, since I knew in the first issue of the collection that I had read it before.
Who knows, who I indulge in these minor insanities?
July 1, 2023
There's conspiracies within conspiracies in this issue as the corruption within SHIELD is exposed. The fallout leads to the Ultimates and Ultimate Avengers at each other's throats. This volume was a lot more text heavy and complicated than the first three, and really, I enjoyed the more straight forward stories of the first three volumes. Not a bad read, but it felt like a big shift in theme for the series.
March 1, 2014
Absolutely brilliant! Mark Millar shows us again why he is a force in this genre. There are enough twists in this graphic novel to keep Marvel fans debating for weeks! More importantly, they are *plausible* twists, not the soap opera melancholy that has become fashionable these days (where everyone is a double agent and/or is dating everyone else). There are two surprises in the ending and the writer gives enough space for multiple superheroes to be featured. A true classic.
April 30, 2020
The writing was another major let down. I mean why do you need a team of awesome heroes all turn into their version of the hulk. It’s like a six year old wrote a comic.
July 29, 2025
Avengers VS. New Ultimates
Marvel, collects issues 1-6
Genetic material for the next crop of U.S. super-soldiers has been stolen. The Ultimates arrive in Bulgaria, encountering a prototype soldier who can’t control his powers. The Ultimates learn the prototypes were destined for China and Nick Fury is the person calling the shots.
Fury offers an incarcerated Punisher a deal, keys to cells and a blind eye to his actions. Frank has his own demands – a laundry list of tools to be used on his fellow inmates. Fury agrees, “It’s all going to my company account.”
Fury offers Blade a deal. SHIELD has Deacon Frost in custody. Frost gave Blade’s mom a vampire kiss, making Blade what he is. Blade says, “I’m in.”
Fury and his team – Punisher, Blade, Hawkeye, and War Machine interrupt a super-human arms deal. Enter Tyrone Cash, the first Hulk. He does what a Hulk does. Blade saves the day. Tyrone says he’s working for Carol Danvers, Director of SHIELD. “She’s been selling state secrets for years.” WTF? I was not expecting that!
Great scene where Tony Stark, recovering from brain tumor surgery, tells his hired model/nurse, he now owns the hospital. He’s checking himself out.
Fury and crew crash SHIELD’s current HQ. Carol is not pleased to see Fury. “Open fire!”
Enter the Ultimates. The battle is on. Fury pleads his case to Captain America. Cap’s not listening. Spider-Man takes a Punisher bullet intended for Cap.
Iron Man takes out Blade. Carol gets taken out by a NYPD police car. As a result, the White House appoints Dr. Gregory Stark, Tony’s older brother, as the new Director of SHIELD.
The Ultimates huddle at Tony Stark’s penthouse. Black Widow thinks Fury was framed.
On the SHIELD Helicarrier, Fury confronts Gregory Stark. He confesses to framing Fury, “Divide and conquer. It works every time.”
Fury asks why Gregory wants to run SHIELD. It’s due to sibling rivalry. “He (Tony) designs a car, so I design a rocket. He becomes a millionaire so I become a billionaire. He buys his way into the super-hero community and I become the man who tells the super heroes what to do.”
Fury is riddled with bullets by Stark’s men in this issue’s cliffhanger.
Flashback to Fury’s crew at Tyrone’s home. Tyrone lives in a mansion. Fury learns the details of Tyrone’s Hulk process. Fury ends Tyrone.
Back in the present, Fury and crew Hulk-up. I was not expecting that!
Meanwhile, things go to hell in North Korea. Gregory Stark’s sold super soldiers arrive and slaughter people. They are led by Spider-Man by order of Gregory. The Ultimates and Fury’s Hulk gang arrive. Cap orders “Don’t hold back.”
Spider-Man dies in the battle.
Tony confronts Gregory. Tony finds an opening. Enter Thor. So long Gregory. Death by lightning.
Cut to New York, Carol resigns from SHIELD. Fury blames Spider-Man’s death on Carol’s lack of control. Fury gets his old job back.
Best quotes:
Thor – “America has a history of creating her own monsters.”
Solid storytelling and packed with characters and twists I did not see coming.
Marvel, collects issues 1-6
Genetic material for the next crop of U.S. super-soldiers has been stolen. The Ultimates arrive in Bulgaria, encountering a prototype soldier who can’t control his powers. The Ultimates learn the prototypes were destined for China and Nick Fury is the person calling the shots.
Fury offers an incarcerated Punisher a deal, keys to cells and a blind eye to his actions. Frank has his own demands – a laundry list of tools to be used on his fellow inmates. Fury agrees, “It’s all going to my company account.”
Fury offers Blade a deal. SHIELD has Deacon Frost in custody. Frost gave Blade’s mom a vampire kiss, making Blade what he is. Blade says, “I’m in.”
Fury and his team – Punisher, Blade, Hawkeye, and War Machine interrupt a super-human arms deal. Enter Tyrone Cash, the first Hulk. He does what a Hulk does. Blade saves the day. Tyrone says he’s working for Carol Danvers, Director of SHIELD. “She’s been selling state secrets for years.” WTF? I was not expecting that!
Great scene where Tony Stark, recovering from brain tumor surgery, tells his hired model/nurse, he now owns the hospital. He’s checking himself out.
Fury and crew crash SHIELD’s current HQ. Carol is not pleased to see Fury. “Open fire!”
Enter the Ultimates. The battle is on. Fury pleads his case to Captain America. Cap’s not listening. Spider-Man takes a Punisher bullet intended for Cap.
Iron Man takes out Blade. Carol gets taken out by a NYPD police car. As a result, the White House appoints Dr. Gregory Stark, Tony’s older brother, as the new Director of SHIELD.
The Ultimates huddle at Tony Stark’s penthouse. Black Widow thinks Fury was framed.
On the SHIELD Helicarrier, Fury confronts Gregory Stark. He confesses to framing Fury, “Divide and conquer. It works every time.”
Fury asks why Gregory wants to run SHIELD. It’s due to sibling rivalry. “He (Tony) designs a car, so I design a rocket. He becomes a millionaire so I become a billionaire. He buys his way into the super-hero community and I become the man who tells the super heroes what to do.”
Fury is riddled with bullets by Stark’s men in this issue’s cliffhanger.
Flashback to Fury’s crew at Tyrone’s home. Tyrone lives in a mansion. Fury learns the details of Tyrone’s Hulk process. Fury ends Tyrone.
Back in the present, Fury and crew Hulk-up. I was not expecting that!
Meanwhile, things go to hell in North Korea. Gregory Stark’s sold super soldiers arrive and slaughter people. They are led by Spider-Man by order of Gregory. The Ultimates and Fury’s Hulk gang arrive. Cap orders “Don’t hold back.”
Spider-Man dies in the battle.
Tony confronts Gregory. Tony finds an opening. Enter Thor. So long Gregory. Death by lightning.
Cut to New York, Carol resigns from SHIELD. Fury blames Spider-Man’s death on Carol’s lack of control. Fury gets his old job back.
Best quotes:
Thor – “America has a history of creating her own monsters.”
Solid storytelling and packed with characters and twists I did not see coming.
February 16, 2021
Following directly on from 'Blade Versus The Avengers', this book sees the Avengers discovering a plot that suggests Carol Danvers is a traitor to the United States, whilst simultaneously the Ultimates uncover similar treason with Nick Fury implicated. The two teams are therefore set on the path towards all-out war between them.
The set-up for this book sounds a bit contrived but given the established tensions between just about every hero and every other one in the Ultimate Universe, it's actually pretty believable that their dislike and distrust would leave them open to being pitted against one another. This is particularly true of the Ultimates, the PR-friendly superheroes, and the Avengers, who are the cold-blooded black ops killers of the Ultimate Universe.
I actually found this to be the most enjoyable of Millar's Avengers stories with the tensions between the two teams making a strong core concept and the larger machinations of the person behind it all actually fitting nicely in to what has previous been established. There's also an interesting exploration of the geopolitical ramifications of America hogging most of the super-people.
There are two significant criticisms I would make of this book however.
The first is that the villain of the piece calling out his plans as being like what 'ridiculous supervillains' would do is supposed to be meta and satirical but totally fails in that regard. Just repeating clichés but pointing out that you're repeating them doesn't make you clever (I'm looking at you Scream).
The other criticism I'd make is that, despite the title and him being all over the cover, Spider-Man and his death actually have very little to do with this book.
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The set-up for this book sounds a bit contrived but given the established tensions between just about every hero and every other one in the Ultimate Universe, it's actually pretty believable that their dislike and distrust would leave them open to being pitted against one another. This is particularly true of the Ultimates, the PR-friendly superheroes, and the Avengers, who are the cold-blooded black ops killers of the Ultimate Universe.
I actually found this to be the most enjoyable of Millar's Avengers stories with the tensions between the two teams making a strong core concept and the larger machinations of the person behind it all actually fitting nicely in to what has previous been established. There's also an interesting exploration of the geopolitical ramifications of America hogging most of the super-people.
There are two significant criticisms I would make of this book however.
The first is that the villain of the piece calling out his plans as being like what 'ridiculous supervillains' would do is supposed to be meta and satirical but totally fails in that regard. Just repeating clichés but pointing out that you're repeating them doesn't make you clever (I'm looking at you Scream).
The other criticism I'd make is that, despite the title and him being all over the cover, Spider-Man and his death actually have very little to do with this book.
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November 1, 2017
I definitely liked this two book series.
I read the first one not knowing what to expect, and I read the second one a day later not knowing it was the sequel.
Funny how things work out that way.
It was a great series. Well written. Terrific graphics. The art to color was really fantastic.
I enjoyed how almost every superhero was brought into the fray, well, my favorite, anyway.
I figured how can you go wrong with the Punisher, Black Widow, Hawkeye, Blade, Thor, Fury and Captain America?
Where the first book was written with a little more wit and substance, the second book filled in the gaps.
The plot and storyline was pretty well thought out, and I wasn't bored for a moment.
Fans of the Hulk may want to read... I didn't know much about his mentor, Cash. They're some interesting revelations that are discovered.
Overall, I was pretty impressed.... and I try hard not be... when it comes to superheroes. lol
I read the first one not knowing what to expect, and I read the second one a day later not knowing it was the sequel.
Funny how things work out that way.
It was a great series. Well written. Terrific graphics. The art to color was really fantastic.
I enjoyed how almost every superhero was brought into the fray, well, my favorite, anyway.
I figured how can you go wrong with the Punisher, Black Widow, Hawkeye, Blade, Thor, Fury and Captain America?
Where the first book was written with a little more wit and substance, the second book filled in the gaps.
The plot and storyline was pretty well thought out, and I wasn't bored for a moment.
Fans of the Hulk may want to read... I didn't know much about his mentor, Cash. They're some interesting revelations that are discovered.
Overall, I was pretty impressed.... and I try hard not be... when it comes to superheroes. lol
November 11, 2021
Existen dos Leinil F. Yu, el que llena de acción las páginas con esas rayitas y llenando de personajes interactuando, y el que no tiene ganas de dibujar apenas cumple confunde con todo lo que llena en la hoja. En esta aventura estamos más cerca del primero con momentos bajos pero cumpliendo.
Entiendo que es una de la últimas historias de Mark Millar en Marvel, dejando un nuevo status quo para esos Ultimates que supo reunir.
Había que leerlo y mostrando uno de los momentos finales de Spider-Man, dejando todo.
Entiendo que es una de la últimas historias de Mark Millar en Marvel, dejando un nuevo status quo para esos Ultimates que supo reunir.
Había que leerlo y mostrando uno de los momentos finales de Spider-Man, dejando todo.
May 20, 2023
The end of the Ultimate Comics Avengers line... that just kind of, ends? It touts the death of Spider-Man (an event that barely happens within or is touched on in this book because... well, Spider-Man is not a cast member) and mindlessly moves a bunch of characters around to get to a final publishing date. The universe was coming to a close, an unfortunate editorial move as there was a lot of good contained within the Ultimate Universe and its alternate looks at the heroes and villains we know and love. This just wasn't one of them.
July 23, 2020
3/5 - So I've somehow only ended up with 4/4 graphic novel in the series which is why I was so bloody confused, my fault for not checking.
Two powerful superhero teams fight one another potentially bringing about the end of the world.
For now, I'll assume my rating is because I have no idea what is actually happening and read the previous ones first.
Two powerful superhero teams fight one another potentially bringing about the end of the world.
For now, I'll assume my rating is because I have no idea what is actually happening and read the previous ones first.
September 27, 2018
This was disappointing. Yeah, it's over the top like Millars previous Ultimate Avengers books but it's less fun. The whole Fury/Danvers drama is not interesting, especially considering we never believe either is a traitor. There's stuff to like, but it's not a great series capper.
December 23, 2018
Het verhaal springt van de hak op de tak, maar de mix van superhelden en politiek intrigeert. Tijd om eens doelgericht het Ultimate-universum te ontdekken.
May 1, 2019
The Ultimates are up against the Avengers when evidence shows that Fury and Danvers are traitors. Spider-man is caught up in the fight.
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May 24, 2021
This is mostly bad
June 26, 2021
Actual rating: 2.5 stars
Only read because it's part of the Death of Spider-man storyline, not very interesting on its own.
Only read because it's part of the Death of Spider-man storyline, not very interesting on its own.
July 27, 2022
What a fiasco! No one cares about Spider-man in this comic! Skip it
March 31, 2024
It feels like a one-shot. The Death of Spider-Man concerns a morally grey plot with ambiguous characters and a rather solid, but rushed, ending. For a collection that consists of six issues, this does go hard.
June 14, 2025
This is decently fun but it largely feels like Millar is just playing his greatest hits.
January 9, 2026
Kind of glad I do not collect the Ultimate titles. Try something like Absolute Batman.
March 5, 2015
In my previous post, I had mentioned how Mark Millar's Millarworld comprises some of the most sickening comics you'll ever read (there might be worse, Millar's are certainly the worst that I've ever read). However, the work that he's done for Marvel and DC is more toned down compared to his own comics.That doesn't mean that he doesn't push the envelope when it comes to superheroes. His take on Superman in Red Son remains one of the best Superman adaptations, despite the fact that the 'Boy Scout' is projected in a more authoritarian role. Wolverine's depiction in Old Man Logan casts Wolverine in a more subdued role till the very end when 'The Animal' within takes over. And his 'Civil War' run marked a tumultuous period in the Marvel universe, with its impact being felt for quite a few years.
With 'The Ultimates', he set out to do something similar with the Avengers this time. In fact, Marvel has used a few storylines and general setup of the Ultimates run to establish its cinematic universe (for example, the Avengers being formed by the S.H.I.E.L.D and the government). Of course, Marvel's arrangement with Sony means that Spiderman was excluded from the cinematic universe (though for how long remains to be seen). However, I have wanted to get into the Ultimates universe for some time now. And, I was finally able to do so when I got my hands on the 'Ultimate Avengers vs. New Ultimates: Death of Spider-Man' run by Millar.
Of course, as the title suggests, there is one major setback that we get to read in here. Funnily enough, the only appearance that Peter Parker's Spiderman makes in this issue is to get shot. Apart from that, most of the storyline revolves around the Avengers and the new Ultimates that Nick Fury has surrounded himself with.
The story deals with the creation of new superheroes using the super soldier serum. Only the new superheroes don't work for America. They are born from the serum being illegally sold to various interested buyers in Middle-East, and the sole purpose of this is to take down the dictatorship in these countries and replace it with democracy. All this was achieved by Gregory Stark - Tony's older brother in the Ultimates universe - by creating a misunderstanding between the Avengers and Nick Fury's Ultimates.
Gregory Stark, like his more illustrious younger brother, is shown to be a visionary, albeit with more technological prowess who is hell bent on making the world a 'better' place. And, being the greater of the Stark brothers. Of course, like Tony Stark in the 'Civil War' arc, he has to make a few adjustments for the same. Like taking over as the S.H.I.E.L.D Director first. Along the way he frames Nick Fury for treason and hoodwinks the Avengers into thinking that he is one of the good guys. While there are a few aspects of the character which are not clear in this arc (like how he got the powers that enable him to take down all of the Avengers, including Thor, and wield Thor's hammer), ComicVine assures me that I'll get to know him more if I read the rest of the Ultimates.
Another great aspect of the Ultimates is Nick Fury. Instead of the usual grizzled, war hero veteran, we see a slightly younger, ruthless, ambitious, conniving, and the-man-with-many-backup-plans Nick Fury. Or Samuel L Jackson if you will. Unfortunately, what the movies failed to capture convincingly was the far-seeing genius of Nick Fury. While there were glimpses shown of it in the Avengers movie, what we get to see in these short six issues is a man who will convince the Pope to become an atheist and then become the Pope himself all the while branding the ex-Pope a satanist. This is the Nick Fury that I would love to see in the movies, and maybe some day he will have a larger part to play.
Overall, the series is a great read. The art work is good. The writing, as usual, is very good. And while the death of Spiderman isn't adequately covered in these issues, it was a sad event nevertheless. For anyone wanting to read this though, I would suggest reading the Ultimates #1 first.
With 'The Ultimates', he set out to do something similar with the Avengers this time. In fact, Marvel has used a few storylines and general setup of the Ultimates run to establish its cinematic universe (for example, the Avengers being formed by the S.H.I.E.L.D and the government). Of course, Marvel's arrangement with Sony means that Spiderman was excluded from the cinematic universe (though for how long remains to be seen). However, I have wanted to get into the Ultimates universe for some time now. And, I was finally able to do so when I got my hands on the 'Ultimate Avengers vs. New Ultimates: Death of Spider-Man' run by Millar.
Of course, as the title suggests, there is one major setback that we get to read in here. Funnily enough, the only appearance that Peter Parker's Spiderman makes in this issue is to get shot. Apart from that, most of the storyline revolves around the Avengers and the new Ultimates that Nick Fury has surrounded himself with.
The story deals with the creation of new superheroes using the super soldier serum. Only the new superheroes don't work for America. They are born from the serum being illegally sold to various interested buyers in Middle-East, and the sole purpose of this is to take down the dictatorship in these countries and replace it with democracy. All this was achieved by Gregory Stark - Tony's older brother in the Ultimates universe - by creating a misunderstanding between the Avengers and Nick Fury's Ultimates.
Gregory Stark, like his more illustrious younger brother, is shown to be a visionary, albeit with more technological prowess who is hell bent on making the world a 'better' place. And, being the greater of the Stark brothers. Of course, like Tony Stark in the 'Civil War' arc, he has to make a few adjustments for the same. Like taking over as the S.H.I.E.L.D Director first. Along the way he frames Nick Fury for treason and hoodwinks the Avengers into thinking that he is one of the good guys. While there are a few aspects of the character which are not clear in this arc (like how he got the powers that enable him to take down all of the Avengers, including Thor, and wield Thor's hammer), ComicVine assures me that I'll get to know him more if I read the rest of the Ultimates.
Another great aspect of the Ultimates is Nick Fury. Instead of the usual grizzled, war hero veteran, we see a slightly younger, ruthless, ambitious, conniving, and the-man-with-many-backup-plans Nick Fury. Or Samuel L Jackson if you will. Unfortunately, what the movies failed to capture convincingly was the far-seeing genius of Nick Fury. While there were glimpses shown of it in the Avengers movie, what we get to see in these short six issues is a man who will convince the Pope to become an atheist and then become the Pope himself all the while branding the ex-Pope a satanist. This is the Nick Fury that I would love to see in the movies, and maybe some day he will have a larger part to play.
Overall, the series is a great read. The art work is good. The writing, as usual, is very good. And while the death of Spiderman isn't adequately covered in these issues, it was a sad event nevertheless. For anyone wanting to read this though, I would suggest reading the Ultimates #1 first.
October 8, 2012
By far the most confusing and over-the-top arc of the Ultimate Avengers series, this was basically Mark Millar doing some of the set-up for the franchise’s second relaunch, the Ultimates series written by Hickman (Nick Fury back in charge, Triskelions in foreign countries, the elimination of characters created solely for this run, like Tyrone Cash and Gregory Stark). But, in retrospect, maybe Millar was trying too hard to razzle & dazzle. The end product was kind of a mess. Yet despite that fact, this final volume of Mark Millar's "Ultimate Avengers" still manages to score 3 stars. Here's my review, broken down in 3 points:
The good : Tyrone Cash gets killed off! This alone raised the rating by a full star.
Also of note : Gregory Stark sets everybody up, takes over S.H.I.E.L.D. and takes it global. Great potential there. By far the best bit is when Thor fries Gregory Stark to a crisp. I know, it sounds bad, but what follows is hilarious :
- Thor : Got him!
- Tony Stark : Thor, what the hell?
- Thor : What are you talking about? We only had a few seconds where his suit wasn’t working.
- Tony Stark : I meant knock him out! Cap to hit him with his shield or something! I didn’t mean fry him. Oh my god. Look what you’ve done to him! What the hell were you thinking?
The bad : As in "Book 2 – Blade Vs. The Avengers", the way the coloring is done in the book has everybody looking like oiled-up plastic mannequins or something. Ugh. The art itself is messy and at times confusing. The bad coloring job just doesn’t help.
Also not-so-great : the 24-hour Hulk pills. Give me a break. What’s next? 24-hour Thor pills? Cap pills? That’s just lame…
In the WTF department we have the death of Spider-Man, who saves Captain America from the Punisher’s rifle shot. While not exactly a spoiler as this event is actually in the title of the book, what does Spider-Man have to do with anything? It’s such a random thing and it totally kills the mood of the face-punching and the kneecap-shooting. Why couldn’t it happen in his own book?
Overall, not the best Ultimate Avengers book of the series. I’m just glad it’s over.
The good : Tyrone Cash gets killed off! This alone raised the rating by a full star.
Also of note : Gregory Stark sets everybody up, takes over S.H.I.E.L.D. and takes it global. Great potential there. By far the best bit is when Thor fries Gregory Stark to a crisp. I know, it sounds bad, but what follows is hilarious :
- Thor : Got him!
- Tony Stark : Thor, what the hell?
- Thor : What are you talking about? We only had a few seconds where his suit wasn’t working.
- Tony Stark : I meant knock him out! Cap to hit him with his shield or something! I didn’t mean fry him. Oh my god. Look what you’ve done to him! What the hell were you thinking?
The bad : As in "Book 2 – Blade Vs. The Avengers", the way the coloring is done in the book has everybody looking like oiled-up plastic mannequins or something. Ugh. The art itself is messy and at times confusing. The bad coloring job just doesn’t help.
Also not-so-great : the 24-hour Hulk pills. Give me a break. What’s next? 24-hour Thor pills? Cap pills? That’s just lame…
In the WTF department we have the death of Spider-Man, who saves Captain America from the Punisher’s rifle shot. While not exactly a spoiler as this event is actually in the title of the book, what does Spider-Man have to do with anything? It’s such a random thing and it totally kills the mood of the face-punching and the kneecap-shooting. Why couldn’t it happen in his own book?
Overall, not the best Ultimate Avengers book of the series. I’m just glad it’s over.
September 30, 2025
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Danvers and the Ultimates vs Fury and the Avengers.
Man that’s a mess.
Worth the read. They’re finally hitting their stride on more Ultimate Universe titles than Spider-Man. Which I suppose they had better be…
Onward!
Notes. Spoilers.
I get that this Fury is BlackOps to the extreme. But oy.
Official retcon go! It was all a TV show.
… yeah I didn’t make the connection to this being where the shot came from.
Well that’s an in universe way to change it.
I did sort of expect it from that interview he gave. But it’s still a sensible plot line. What next?
Oh that’s sneaky. And you can Hulk without any real side effects? That’s risky. Wonder if we’ll see more of that? Like all the Giant Men in this universe.
He almost gets it.
I don’t think we ever established the “worthy” clause. Still surprising.
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