Phoebe Berman's Gonna Lose It

by Brooke Averick

Meet Phoebe Berman: despite being a hopeless romantic, she’s about to be a thirty-year-old virgin. With one month before her milestone birthday, she's determined to finally lose it...if her own anxiety doesn’t slow her down. The can’t miss debut novel from podcaster and comedian Brooke Averick.

Because is it possible to find true love when going on a date makes you want to throw up?

Phoebe Berman fears the one thing she wants the most: love. Thanks to an extremely unfortunate first kiss attempt, crippling intimacy anxiety has plagued her since she was a teen.

Phoebe has so much going for her: a dream teaching job, a supportive and hilarious group of best friends, and all the romance novels a girl could want at her fingertips—but she can’t help but beat herself up over the one thing she can’t quite seem to figure out. Determined to change this, she drafts up the ultimate "Guide to Losing My Virginity" checklist with the hope of finally getting laid.

Suddenly, she goes from a relatively boring (basically non-existent) dating life to juggling three romantic prospects at once. There's the gorgeous new fourth grade teacher at her school, a former high school classmate that resurfaces through Words with Friends, and there will always be her roommate, who might just be the best friends-to-lovers situation of her dreams.

Phoebe Berman’s Gonna Lose It is a brutally honest and completely relatable story for anyone who’s ever felt stuck between coming of age and coming apart.

Genres: Romance, Fiction, Contemporary, Audiobook, Contemporary Romance, Book Club, Rom Com

304 pages, Hardcover

First published May 26, 2026

About the author

My debut novel, Phoebe Berman's Gonna Lose it, comes out May 26th! Pre-order now :)

Reviews

[Brooke Averick · Rating 5 out of 5]

8/22/25 It’s fine to rate your own book five stars if you worked really hard on it. Looking forward to discussing chapter 26.

3/12/26 Popping in here again to say that I just finished what will be my final read before pub day. I really did the damn thing didn't I. I still love chapter 26 the most but chapter 20 is up there.

[Sara Carrolli · Rating 4 out of 5]

MISS PHOEBE ILY!!!!! (4.25 star 🌟)

Phoebe has extreme intimacy anxiety & is turning 30 in 30 days, so writes a list on all the things she has to do in order to lose her virginity before then

I absolutely loved following Phoebe, she is so REAL & feels like a normal girl with normal anxieties and isn’t afraid to let the reader in on that. It was wonderful seeing her and her friend group, and also trying to figure out who she was gonna end up with

A wonderful debut & I would absolutely recommend if you want a story that feels realistic and fresh, but also has great rom-com elements

[emma · Rating 4 out of 5]

one time brooke averick mentioned my goodreads on a podcast and that was very cool, if only because it set me on the path to reading this book.

and thank god it did!

in all the romance novels i've read, some good and some bad and some very good and some crimes against humanity, none has conveyed the anxiety that dating and sex can bring like this one.

what a sweet, genuine, truly funny book this is. brooke averick manages to capture the voice and humor that makes everyone love her so exactly on the page, and build such a wonderful cast of characters to go with it.

i enjoyed this whole book of friendships and finding yourself, but the last few chapters blew me away.

bottom line: lovely.

(thank you to the author for the arc!)

[Megan · Rating 5 out of 5]

second read: at the risk of repeating myself—there are no words to describe the pride radiating off of me as i flipped through the pages of this book. and i do mean flip bc i stayed up all night on a school night to finish. as someone who is not a fiction reader this book gripped me from the very beginning. in the words of gwyenth paltrow: i laughed, i cried a number of times, i sweat, i danced, i got a shot, i ate, and i had many epiphanies—the greatest of all was witnessing phoebe berman’s never ending stream of love stories.

first read: i don’t even have the words to describe how wonderful this book is & how proud i am of brooke!!!!!

[Abbie Konnick · Rating 5 out of 5]

4.5 🌟 I loved this book!!! Such a unique, funny, and relatable romance novel…And it didn’t turn out like I thought it would! I think you’ll love this one too if you’re looking for a little something different this summer :)

[Jaime Fok · Rating 4 out of 5]

4.25

This one was a trust the process book for me... but it all paid off in the end!

For the first half, this felt like just a fun romcom - reminiscent of all of those teenager "lose my virginity" romcoms we used to watch in the 2000s. I felt like things were moving pretty well in terms of plot, but I just didn't see how this story would blow me away.

However, getting into the second half... OH MY GOODNESS this surprised me. I did not predict some of the things that happened in the story, and loved this romance book taking me by surprise - which happens only very rarely. I loved seeing Phoebe come into herself and gain confidence, I loved seeing her navigate friendships in her 30s, and I loved how this romance didn't feel too polished and perfect. Even when we were in our happy moments, our characters' anxieties and issues didn't magically just disappear - they just learnt how to manage them. And I loved how realistic that felt.

Overall, this is one felt like it was written for the millennials. From the humour to the references, I feel like I was the definitely target audience for this one.

[Lottie Smalley · Rating 5 out of 5]

4.5 ⭐️ for PHOEBE! 🩷🍒 i went into this one thinking it would be fun & funny (which it is), but i did not expect to feel so SEEN by it!

phoebe felt like a real person to me. her anxiety, especially around intimacy, was written in such an warm and relatable way. this is a book with therapy DONE RIGHT! i absolutely loved that aspect. phoebe’s sessions with sandy felt so honest and actually helpful to read. and they made it really easy to connect with phoebe from the start!

she really deals with the kind of anxiety where you know something isn’t actually dangerous, but your body reacts like it is anyway! it’s literally the worst! and it’s such an exhausting mental battle! as someone who deals with avoidance anxiety in a totally different area of life, this book made me feel much less alone in it. like maybe it’s not that something is wrong with you, we just all have own hangups we have to work through.

the romance aspect is quite fun, but what i appreciated most is that it’s really about phoebe learning how to show up for herself! do hard things! and challenge the stories she’s been telling herself for years! but i did really like how all three love interests played different roles in phoebe’s life too (instead of just being there for drama). they all felt distinct and well developed!

on top of all the emotional stuff, phoebe is genuinely funny. she made me laugh out loud so many times, which was very needed throughout the story 😌 i think a lot of people will see themselves in her! and all the musical theater references? just the cherry on top!!! 🍒

overall i just loved the mental health rep in this and how it also didn’t define phoebe at all! such a witty, warm, relatable book and it’s definitely a new favorite of mine. super bingeable & i think it’s gonna be an absolute HIT this year! (p.s. thank you so much to crown publishing for the ARC!)

💌 p.s. this has late summer / early fall energy (think labor day, september vibes), so honestly this would be such a good end-of-summer read if you need one!

[mal · Rating 5 out of 5]

suck it nakit (positive connotation)

[Every Chapter Matters · Rating 2 out of 5]

2.5
Thank you, PRH Audio Publishing Group for my ALC.

I want to start by saying, don't know anything about Brooke. It feels like she may have a bit of a following, but I don't know who she is or what she is (part of/in/etc). So don't hate me!

I did not enjoy this story. The writing isn't terrible -- she does a good contrast between show and tell, but the writing also felt quite juvenile at times.

I did not like Phoebe. At. All. I do empathize with the anxiety aspect, but overall this character was two-dimensional, annoying, childish, and not a fun POV I liked being in. Her whole friend group felt very immature overall. The most annoying group of (nearly) 30 year olds! Who on Earth adds "rear-end a random guy" as a goal for meeting someone. Accidents are not romantic. That's borderline crazy. And they all spoke the same. No one really had any of their own personality.

(Potential Spoiler Ahead)
Out of the "men" she could have chosen for her love interest, I feel like Brooke had friends to lovers RIGHT there and then created a random-ass twist for that storyline. Didn't like this. Did not feel natural in this storyline. While there was constant lacking in tension between almost everyone, this relationship with her friend was the only potential in the pages. And the guy she did end up with, they had absolutely zero chemistry the entire novel! How? How? Seriously, how?

The idea of the story is okay. I just don't think Phoebe should have been the main character for it.

This was just not for me. I hate giving debut novels low ratings -- and again, I think the writing wasn't as distracting as other debut novels, so I do think Brooke could end up writing something really good (for some, this is that book). I hope to read another novel from her at some point.

[Sody Gentry · Rating 5 out of 5]

This is my new favorite book ever. Perfect story involving family, chosen family, and love. I’ll never forget where I was when I read the big key piece feature plot twist.

For ONCE I can relate to the main character of a romance novel. I am Phoebe, you are Phoebe, we are all a little bit of Phoebe. Through phoebes story I have learned to love myself again. I found myself smiling ear to ear giggling on one page and then wiping tears from my cheeks on the next. I recommend for everyone between the ages of 16 to 96.

Because I have read PBGLI, I have been changed for good.

[Mysha · Rating 5 out of 5]

Oh my gosh this was so good. I had so much fun during every second of this, and ahh how I loved the friend group in this book!!!

We follow Phoebe who is about to turn 30 soon. She loves love but is still a virgin and unable to go on dates and stuff because of her anxiety. If vomitting is something you can’t handle I’d steer clear from this because there is a lot of anxious puke in this story!! She receives a letter from her younger self about how she hopes she’s had sex by now…but that’s not the case. Thus, she creates a checklist in order to lose her virginity before she turns 30.

We follow 3 potential prospects of Phoebe’s who there may be some sort of connection with:
1) Finn — he’s a new coworker of hers (he’s a fourth grade teacher while she teaches kindergarten at the same school)
2) Matthew — a guy she went to high school with but reconnected with years later on Hinge (they have more of a long-distance virtual relationship where they send each other wordles and crossword scores)
3) Johnathan — Phoebe’s best friend and roomate who knows her better than anyone else.

Romantic prospects aside, this story really was about Phoebe. Her anxiety and how hard she is on herself was really lovely to read about and done with lots of care. Although it can be frustrating to feel the way she does, this book itself wasn’t heavy or overly emotional which I appreciated. I found myself laughing out loud many times, CRINGING SO HARD AT THE SECOND HAND EMBARRASSMENT (tickling Teacher Rob?!??! Papercut on her butt?!?!?!?), and having the absoloute time of my life reading this. Additionally, her friend group felt so real and I loved all of them so much!

Also chapter 20… i was flabbergasted. Maybe I’m just dumb but i did NOT see that coming. Definitely an extra star for that because I love when a book you think is gonna be predictable actually surprises the heck out of you.

When I heard this was a debut novel I was so surprised!!! I’ll definitely be keeping an eye out for any other book later written by this author :)

[Lindsay Baker · Rating 1 out of 5]

take off the rose tinted glasses everyone!! objectively a bad book and would not have been published/popular if she was not a famous influencer.

and before yall think i’m a troll— im a 20 y/o wannabe-author/college student. I’ve been a huge fan of BNCMAP and Brooke as an individual creator for years now.

without further ado,

this book was objectively bad. the writing didn’t hit at all, and phoebe was a juvenile character. from the content warnings (and lack of such content), this book could really be marketed to YA, since the writing style more accurately would cater to younger readers.

i’m glad brooke got this opportunity, but it’s sad (reverse poetic justice, maybe) to see influencers get big book deals and lead-ins to writing careers when others have to work harder to get their work out there, honing their craft rather than their followings.

in terms of writing and plot: the parentheses felt weird and juvenile (maybe this is where i’m thinking it leans YA), and there is a continuity issue with her classroom and the students in it—definitely something that should have been caught.

also, the plot started out good!! what happened!!! cringy, but had that cliche commercial appeal that middle aged women go wild for. however, it all fell apart within the second 2/3 of the book.

it’s obvious (like she has discussed) that due to being an influencer, she sold the book only with a partial manuscript. i feel like a lot of the higher starred reviews were paid promotions by PRH or fans of brooke who are reading the book who are unable or unwilling to separate brooke as a beloved internet personality and brooke as a silver-spooned/hand-fed (but unfortunately unearned) author.

i understand why she made certain plot decisions—phoebe being anxious about choosing one out of the three guys—and poof! suddenly two options can’t be used, and the third is justified easily and made to seem like he was the best choice all along (spoiler alert: he was not). the writing and plotting felt lazy to me in terms of this choice, which was essentially the plot of the whole book lmao. phoebes friend group was unrealistic as well, arguments got resolved immediately and forgotten about, when the issues were real and would linger/hurt more in normal situations.

overall, i would not read this book again, i wouldn’t recommend it to anyone, but if some sort of movie or anything came out, i would probably watch it (just like phoebe, i am addicted to screens). maybe things will come across better on screen. the book may be a perfect fit for other people!

i get publishing an influencer from a marketing perspective (sales are sales!) but as an author who has to go through the querying process, it makes my heart sad (and maybe a bit jealous, scorned, whatever the word) to see maybe-not-deserved opportunities get handed to people who haven’t truly done (or understand) the work.

please keep in mind that as i’m writing this review, i am a huge fan of brooke and everything she does, and i hope she learns from this novel and is able to grow and improve in book two!

[Holly Dannen · Rating 5 out of 5]

WOW Phoebe is one of my new favorite fictional characters like she deserved the world and more…. I love this book because it’s so unique to any other romance book I’ve read but I’m also devastated because I am craving so much more content exactly like this and where am I supposed to find it???? also I’m inspired by phoebe’s list making and I’m gonna start making more lists to reach goals in my personal life starting now

[will · Rating 5 out of 5]

5/5 - “Maybe it’s not such a terrible thing to go through life at your own pace.”

I am in awe. Phoebe Berman’s Gonna Lose It is a witty, charming and heartfelt debut from comedian and podcaster Brooke Averick. I was so utterly impressed with this book and how Averick was able to use genuine humor, vulnerability and relatability to articulate anxiety (in all its forms), intimacy intimidation and societal pressures on love. I was glued to the page, was kicking my feet, laughed out loud and sat in anticipation wondering what was to come next.

On its surface, this is a romance novel, but it is SO MUCH deeper than that. I do not typically gravitate toward or seek out romance novels, so I went in with an open mind with this. As I traversed through the story, this became more of a coming-of-age tale following Phoebe and her journey of self-discovery utilizing romance as a backdrop through it all.

I absolutely fell in love with Averick’s voice, the prose was addicting. I never wanted to put this book down and absolutely devoured it in such a short amount of time. She curated this story and the character of Phoebe to be someone you care for and want to know how she handles what’s in front of her. This story consumed my every waking thought while reading.

This story takes a turn that I absolutely adored. My jaw was on the FLOOR at certain reveals, truly showcasing Averick’s ability to meticulously weave the narrative into a final crescendo that consumes you.

There were moments in this where I felt validated in my own anxieties, mere experiences and thoughts I’ve had before being conveyed directly on the page. You can clearly see Averick understands the human experience, especially how mental health plays a role in day to day living. Her vulnerability is what makes this book so special and will be the core reason why this book will be such a success.

Overall, this story surprised the hell out of me and is one I highly recommend you pick up. This felt like a warm hug and will bring such comfort to so many. I feel so lucky and honored to be able to experience Phoebe so early, and it’s only right to convey how much I loved this book to all of you.

Please, please, PLEASE pick this book up at your earliest convenience, you will be wrapped up in its charm and will want to reread it all over again after its final pages.

[Gwen · Rating 2 out of 5]

this was a cute and fine book. i could take or leave the romance in it- i don’t think it was developed enough. my biggest problem is the writing. i think if Averick changed the plot around a little and wrote this as a YA book it would be so so so much better. the voice feels too juvenile for the FMC to be 30- it threw me off so bad because she sounded more like an 18 year old. if Averick gave YA a go i think she would kill it. i just don’t think this book felt particularly adult and the voice took me out of it a lot.

6/18/26 edit:

okay i am changing this to 2 stars. i have thought about this book a lot since the original review and it honestly has made me angry to think about it because i just feel like the writing was truly not very good. what pushed me over the edge was i just saw an announcement that this is getting turned into a movie for netflix. the trend of influencers getting book deals when they are not very good writers and there are, i’m sure, a million people out there who can’t get published because they don’t have an existing following is PISSING ME OFF.

this is no shade to Averick specifically, but seeing all these reviews of how amazing this book is is just making me think most of them are her friends or followers just kind of blindly hyping her up. i think she has a lot of room for improvement and again, i think sticking to YA would be a better move for her.

[mary steven · Rating 4 out of 5]

”i used to hate the way my brain worked. sometimes i still do. but i’ve learned to stop beating myself up over it. if the past few months have taught me anything, it’s that everyone has their own hang-ups — their own virginities to lose, so to speak. there’s nothing wrong with that. and there’s nothing wrong with me. there never was.”

this book is very important to a girl like me!!!!

a romance novel unlike any i’ve ever read but one that should have been written 1000 times before because girls like us DO exist. and why shouldn’t we see ourselves in a love story every once in a while?

i truly have so much gratitude for this book - it’s as if i have so much to say that im at a loss for where to start. so gratitude is where i’ll leave it.

for the nervous pukers… we’re gonna be alright!

[Patrick Johnson · Rating 5 out of 5]

Never have I ever read a romcom book like this!!! A unique perspective for those of us who feel any sort of anxiety around love and even friendships. I feel like i was seeing myself in so many of the characters. What a refreshing read and they way i was crying happy tears by the end!! Highly recommend this book, you will love phoebe for exactly who she is, nobody in this book is perfect yet you fall in love with each character - flaws and all! 10/10

[Rachel Misero · Rating 5 out of 5]

already addicted to this young woman

[Tahls · Rating 5 out of 5]

Ahh, my heart is so happy!! This was so fun and wholesome and funny. From the setup to the ending, the story had me hooked. And the characters are all so charming!

The writing’s smooth and a breeze to read, and the tone balances out the humorous and heavy parts so well. Also the physical book is so cute, I love how much thought went into it and how it perfectly matches the vibe of the story.

The portrayal of anxiety in this made me feel so seen! I know so many other anxious girlies out there will relate. The tender moments between Phoebe and her friends, family members and love interest made my heart soar, they were so special.

I just love Phoebe so much, 😭 she’s so relatable and I’m so glad she got her happy ending. The amount of growth she had in just 30 days was so inspiring and to see how seemingly little things can have the biggest impact is soo real, even if it may take a little time for them to stick.

I laugh, I cried, I gasped—it was the best time. Kudos to Brooke for getting me to read (and LOVE) a book from a genre outside of my go-to range!

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I don’t usually read chick lit but I looove Brooke’s humour and am a huge fan. I’m actually so excited to get into this!

[Sherie P · Rating 1 out of 5]

I was looking forward to this fun premise (even proposed it for book club), but ended up DNFing at 25%, where Phoebe still hadn’t actually connected with anyone.

Her increasingly desperate hookup strategies — including rear-ending someone and advertising herself on Craigslist — felt more juvenile than funny to me. I’d imagined her anxiety would make her more introverted, but instead she came across as extremely chatty and immature — and honestly, more in need of therapy than a hookup plan.

Overall, it felt a bit like an “Are You There God? It’s Me, Margaret” sequel for adults. The debut author may be better suited for YA.

[mackenzie]

★ i hear only the best things ab this one, i can’t wait to meet n love phoebe 🍒🧸⭐

[phideɭia · Rating 3 out of 5]

“I used to hate the way my brain worked. Sometimes I still do. But I’ve learned to stop beating myself up over it. If the past few months have taught me anything, it’s that everyone has their own hang-ups....”
There’s nothing wrong with that. And there’s nothing wrong with me.
There never was.”

right. so. i devoured this in approximately 3-4 hours 😭😭😭 and this is what i can only describe as such an incredibly heartwarming book. oh my god 🥹

it's for the socially awkward people who lie awake at night dissecting conversations from ages past, because well, i fear that may be a touch too relatable. the texting back late because anxiety got the better of you, overthinking every conceivable social interaction ever, yes, all of it. i knew i was going to relate the moment she couldn't bring herself to use her nice pens until there was a sufficiently worthy reason. tell me about it.

it was genuinely funny at times and, yes, occasionally a touch formulaic, but i overlooked that for the most part. the whole thing felt like one of those beloved 2000s rom-coms, all charm and earnestness, except it actually never loses sight of the fact that phoebe's anxiety isn't just another quirky character trait. and honestly? i think i would loved to watch it if it were to be adapted for the screen.

and also, the friends-to-lovers was right there. right there. but i forgive you, ma'am, because i understand why you didn't do it. i respect the decision. i even agree with the decision. but IT WAS RIGHT THERE.

anyway.
my one gripe: the middle sags. there's a stretch where Phoebe juggles her romantic options and it starts to feel repetitive.

“Maybe it’s not such a terrible thing to go through life at your own pace.”

which, honestly, feels like the whole book itself lmao.

now. matthew. [and here is where i must lodge a formal complaint.]

i do wish we'd gotten a little more of matthew's past (a photographer, and they met in high school? hello, 13 Going on 30). i confess i would've loved more of both matthew and phoebe altogether tbh, their history, their dynamic, a few more glimpses into the years that shaped them, just a little more room for their relationship to unfurl. the found family (and the family family), for that matter was wonderfully endearing: kind, understanding, steadfast, oh it was all very lovely to read about. i'd love to read a bit more about the side-characters honestly.

This list has no end date and no timeline. It’s a work in progress.
“So, am I just going to come down with a different mental illness for
every stage of my life?” I had asked Sandy.
“It’s all pretty much the same one.” Sandy smiled. “It just changes as
you do.”
“Oh,” I said, flatly. “Great.”
Sandy smiled at that. And then I did, too.

this is so real which is, you know, a bit funny, a little bleak, oddly comforting too, much like the book itself.

tl;dr we need more books like these 🥹

pre-read
very hopeful about this 🤭

[Violet · Rating 3 out of 5]

2.5 ⭐️

Lots of buzz and countless positive reviews had me so excited for this one! Maybe it's a me thing, but the tale of Phoebe's quest to lose her virginity before her 30th birthday ended up falling flat. I love the anxiety representation but couldn't find much else to like.

•Found family
•Rom-com
•Anxiety + mental health
•Self discovery
•Countdown to 30 checklist

[ن · Rating 1 out of 5]

paid reviews everywhere for those with eyes to see. this was SO awful. i need to start by saying that phoebe is the most immature and self-centred 30-year-old ever; it was painful to read. her friend group is just as bad, and each character has exactly one personality trait that is parroted throughout the book. the love interests were sooooo underdeveloped and read like the author sat down, made a list of her dream traits, and combined them all to make the same three men with different physical traits. the writing was almost childish and her friend group was so fantastical like do we not know what friends are like?? have we had any ever?? just awful overall.

- buddy read w gigi

[Jordyn (readingwithjordyn) · Rating 5 out of 5]

so like…I think I need this book imprinted on my soul. This book is so important for the romance industry and genuinely a book that I have been looking for YEARS!!

Oh the absolute STAR that Brooke is!! One of my MOST anticipated books of the year and I am thrilled to say that PBGLI met every high expectation I had. Thank you so much to Crown Publishing for the free early copy. Phoebe is MY GIRL and this book means soooo much to me 🥺🫶🏻

This is the debut from Brooke Averick aka Lady Efron. It is unlike any romance book I’ve read, because it is for us girls with anxiety and specifically, intimacy anxiety and anxiety over dating! Phoebe is about to turn 30 and still a virgin because of her constant anxiety over being intimate with a guy and opening herself up to someone. She is determined to lose her virginity before she turns 30, and so she makes herself a list of all the things she needs to do to open herself up to the dating world. Soon, she finds herself in the middle of a love square (?) and facing the attention of more men than she ever dreamed.

I have very rarely read a book where I felt SO SEEN by the female main character. Phoebe’s character and the way Brooke wrote this romance book is so important for those of us who struggle with dating, intimacy, and relationships, mainly because of our anxiety and trusting others. This is THE romance book we needed!!

On top of that, I just loved Phoebe’s character so much. She is quirky, creative, passionate, and so so funny. She loves her friends and her people so hard but also makes mistakes and hurts others like the rest of us! But she is always willing to try to do better and push herself to do new things.

Another thing - if you are an audiobook person, Brooke narrates the audiobook and did a FANTASTIC job with Phoebe’s narration and the rest of the characters. I absolutely fell in love with Phoebe’s character and this group of friends. The audiobook was SO FUN!!

This book releases May 26th and you don’t want to miss it!! Book of the year and book of the summer!!

[Destiney Bomberry · Rating 5 out of 5]

YEAHHHH simply unputdownable!!! One of my fav reads this year!!

[ilana · Rating 3 out of 5]

3.5 🌟

Loved the theme and the message, hated the FMC personally

[Flor · Rating 1 out of 5]

dnf • 25%
I was curious to see where it goes but not enough to put up with the writing.

[grace · Rating 1 out of 5]

i was so excited to read this but literally EVERYTHING was super underdeveloped especially the romance and it was written more like a wattpad fanfic (derogatory) or a middle school diary rather than an actual novel

- buddy read with nusaybah 😛😛😛😛

[Demi Raptis · Rating 5 out of 5]

Phoebe is already my best friend and no one can change my mind. I fear the world won’t be the same and time should probably be labelled as BPB and APB (before phoebe berman & after phoebe berman) from here on out, thanks guys