Eine der kreativsten Stimmen des 20. Jahrhunderts von einer ganz neuen Seite.
Tove Ditlevsen gilt inzwischen weltweit als außergewöhnliche Prosaschriftstellerin. In ihrer Heimat Dänemark aber wurde sie von Anfang an auch als Dichterin gefeiert. Ihre erste Gedichtsammlung veröffentlichte sie in ihren frühen Zwanzigern und schrieb bis an ihr Lebensende verspielte, schwermütige, witzige In den Körpern Erwachsener stehen kleine Mädchen auf Zehenspitzen, literarische Errungenschaften und persönliche Niederlagen werden unbeirrt offenbart, und Liebhaber kommen und gehen wie die Jahreszeiten. In schnörkelloser Sprache und originellen Bildern greift sie alle Lebensthemen auf und macht daraus Poesie.
Tove Ditlevsen var en dansk forfatter, som hentede inspiration i sit eget liv som kvinde. I sin digtning og som yndet brevkasseredaktør i Familie Journalen udfoldede hun en dyb psykologisk indsigt i moderne kvinders splittede liv. Hendes evne til at udtrykke sammensatte følelser i et enkelt og smukt sprog fik betydning for flere generationer af læsere.
This was my first introduction to Tove Ditlevsen and now, I'll be reading ALL she ever published. Her poetry (even when short), had a way of transforming me to my childhood self, peering into motherhood, gazing into a mirror at her representations of depression and anxiety and truly, revealed what it is like to be a woman in this world. Absolutely adored, now need to go book shopping for more...
Originally written between 1939-1973 and translated from Danish, this collection of poems by famed author Tove Ditlevsen reminds me that though times and places may change, so much of what we feel and love stays the same. These poems could have been written last year and I would have believed it. Ditlevsen taps into the hopefulness of youth, the anguish of growing old(er), and the ruins of love in a way that hit close to home more than once.
I imagine translating poetry to be a challenging task (how to keep the meaning while not losing the style?), and so I commend the translators for doing an amazing job here. I felt so much of what Ditlevsen tried to convey.
I received an advanced copy through Netgalley in return for an honest review.
Sinds Tove Ditlevsens beklijvende Kopenhagen-trilogie had ik nog niets anders van haar vertaalde werk gelezen. Dat er nu ook poëzie van haar verscheen, vond ik een goede reden om dat opnieuw te doen. Het werd een beetje een tweeslachtige leeservaring, die uiteindelijk toch positief uitviel.
Een niet chronologische, uitgebreide bloemlezing als deze was volgens mij in elk geval de juiste keuze. Want misschien meer dan een poëtische reis wordt hier een sfeer, een vrouwenleven, misschien zelfs een Deense vorm van fado en saudade geschetst.
De tweeslachtigheid zit voornamelijk in de stijl van de gedichten. Zoals in het voorwoord al aangehaald gebruikte Tove Ditlevsen gedurende een bepaalde periode fragmenten uit volkse smartlappen en schreef ze gedichten op rijm die niet altijd even sterk uit de verf kwamen.
Maar zoals gezegd werd haar hele poëzie-oeuvre door elkaar gehusseld en dat is weldoordacht gedaan, waardoor je altijd wel opnieuw op een pareltje of een reeks overtuigende, ontroerende of dieper gravende gedichten stuit. En die zijn er genoeg, met uiteenlopende onderwerpen. Mijn favoriete gedicht werd 'Zondag', omdat ze zo juist beschrijft wat voor gevoel zondagen al sinds mijn kinderjaren in mij oproepen. Maar net zo goed vond ik 'Schaamluizen' geweldig.
De titel van de bloemlezing dekt perfect de inhoudelijke lading. Rode draad is de verloren kindertijd, het kwijtspelen van de sterke emoties en indrukken die ze als kind, puber en jongvolwassene beleefd heeft en waar ze vaak hartstochtelijk naar terugverlangt nu ze in de wereld van de volwassenen gevangen zit. Dat heeft iets tragisch en iets nostalgisch, maar die termen zijn te beladen voor deze poëzie. Opnieuw kom ik uit bij de melancholie van fado en saudade.
Dat laatste is deels ook te wijten aan een tweede thematiek, nl. die van de stad en de armere, rauwere buurten waar Ditlevsen opgroeide. Op die manier sloot de bloemlezing dan weer aan bij haar Kopenhagen-trilogie, met angsten, twijfels, kritiek op verwachtingspatronen en mannen, en vooral dat sterk en weerbarstig innerlijk oog als voornaamste drijfveren voor haar ars poëtica. 3,5*
Skaityti Tovės Ditlevsen eilėraščius buvo lyg skaityti Sylvią Plath, perrašytą Virginijos Kulvinskaitės. Gal net ir supratau, kodėl ji visų pirma poetė, o tik po to - tokia nuostabi autofikcinė prozininkė. Vis dėlto labai džiaugiausi, kad pirma skaičiau Kopenhagos trilogiją ir dar prisiminiau raktinius įvykius ar įvaizdžius, gyvenimo etapus; tie eilėraščiai neatsirado visai tuščioje vietoje. Atskirai džiaugiausi rinktine, išdėstyta chronologiškai iš visų Ditlevsen išleistų rinkinių ir vieno pomirtinio, kai sulig kiekvienu vis mažiau nejaukumo, vis daugiau noro šokti į akis, sakyti "o ką jūs man" ir sykiu ieškoti žodžių kažkokiam nuolatiniam gyvenimiškam nejaukumui ir ilgesiui. Svajonė: kad "Baziliskas" išverstų kurią nors Ditlevsen rinktinę, o gal ir šią, kad būtų galima ją patirti bent per vienos, o ne per dviejų kalbų slenkstį.
Iš eilėraščių atrodo, kad vaikystė jai visam gyvenimui liko ne kaip ideali, bet kaip kartais romantizuota, o dažniau tiesiog bent jau aiški patirtis:
The Schoolchildren
They stumble along like scattered troops every morning, come rain or shine, milk-moustached and shaking off sleep, perpetually small and never on time.
You recognize them by their serious eyes, by the fog of dreams lifting from their heads, always in a hurry, they don't notice you: you're a faraway season they don't yet dread.
They agonize over a stain in a book, they're tormented by a math's exercise, and they expect far too much happiness from becoming childhoodless and wise.
Watching them you remember how lonely you felt in a never-ending dawn, while every blossom slept on its branch and the grown-ups' curtains were still drawn.
Your narrow bed, the lightbulb's dull glow, your bedroom rancid with need; always too small, too late out the door, full of sadness you'll never concede.
(p. 46)
Ir ta mergaitė iš pavadinimo, gyvenanti joje, anaiptol nėra nei žaisminga, nei svajinga, veikiau toks senos sielos, suaugęs vaikas, nieko gero nesitikintis iš jokios ateities:
Sunday
[...]
The church bells ring. The children's nostrils fill with an inherited, hopeless smell. Across their sweet faces slides a temporary ugliness. The gleam in their eyes beings to wither.
But we all look forward to Sunday, the whole week, our whole life we look forward to hundreds of long, pointless, eviscerating Sundays. The family day, the boarding house day, the secret lover's hell. The day the adults' sickening greyness seeps into their children and instils the bewildering sadness of every Sunday to come.
(p. 58)
Atrodo, kad daugiausia ir pasižymėjau jos tekstų apie vaikystę, jie atrodė baugūs ir liūdni, projektuojantys visą savo ligtolinį gyvenimą į tą nepažinų vaiką, tuo pat metu kupini ir atjautos jam, ir distancijos. Skaitydama galvojau, kad tie veidai iš jos romano (Veidai) poezijoje beveik visi priklauso vaikams, užsikloja vienas ant kito, atkartoja, ataidi vienas kitą ir ne gausina supratimo ar kontakto, o, priešingai, mažina, jį atitolina. Paskui ir ji pati eilėraštyje beveik tą patį ir parašė. Va pora tokių:
Childhood
The picture of a child floated past them, sat upright in his frame, smiling sweetly; moving carefully the way he always knew, wearily knew they expected him to.
Once again it worked. Look, their voiced quieted. The room grew peaceful. Imperious hands lowered. Everything became clear: their naive affection, all their sharp, demanding simplicity.
Never disturb them. Never leave your frame. Much was easy, but some things were never learned. Worst were the joys they handed him, made for someone else, made for a well-defined child, unadult and adored.
Worst was thanking them through the smiling mask. Worst were their greedy eyes that wanted whatever distant, dangerous thoughts were sneaking through his unknowable mind.
The picture of a child stayed with them. A fearful child never left his frame. Happiness was merely a guest in his heart. The deep grooves of anxiety lead back home.
(p. 61)
Self Portrait 4
On my childhood street lives an old woman who remembers me as a little girl. I was unruly she says the whole building shook when I bounded down the stairs from the fourth floor.
This picture of me inserts itself and distorts like when a photograph is taken on top of another.
I fear the place I hold in other people's memory. They remind me of things I have forgotten.
They stole my face before it was worn out and wear it often on top of their own.
I don't remember the old woman from my childhood the grown-ups were all the same and ageless. She knows something about me she won't divulge a secret I've never told.
It fills her up and keeps death at bay she tells lies and intends to outlive me. I never took the stairs in bounds I was a quiet child. I hate her.
(p. 106-107)
Ditlevsen eilėraščių vaikystė primena Helle Helle vaikystę iš They, kur lyg ta mergaitė jau paauglė, lyg ne, tu nelabai supranti nei jos, nei jos aplinkos, tik matai paskirus įspūdžius, kurių ir taip kažkodėl per daug. Helle Helle prisiminiau skaitydama "Lietaus" pradžią:
Rain
It always rained on Istedgade. The lamplight spread like big sunflowers in the falling darkness.
Down at the train station the whores came out looking like rich ladies with umbrellas and high heels. You'd imagined them differently and were disappointed.
The stink from the slaughterhouse wasn't as bad as during the day. Drunk men aren't dangerous your friend said child molesters are always sober.
[...]
(p. 85)
Ir galiausiai jos apskritasis kambarys, be kampų ir nelygių atstumų, kur visos formos yra stabilios, patikimos, atitinkančios kontūrus. Po "Veidų" jis labai prašosi būti skaitomas ligos kontekste, ir vis dėlto čia, eilėraštyje, tas ramus buvimas atrodo pasiekiamas ranka ir beveik išsipildęs, įmanomas, apie ką romanas neleido nė pagalvoti:
The Round Room
Stretched to the breaking point by uncontrollable consequences trapped in the unsurmountable like an unwanted pregnancy, I can't help but wonder whether all this was really necessary? Couldn't one have made do with very little; the detail of a detail hardly anything at all something like a coffee tin with a lid that fits and slips soundlessly into place in this world of poorly made objects?
All wholes are too overwhelming a whole person is too much to take improbable, unbearable. All screws and bolts are loose or missing and the spare parts were used up in childhood. Angry mechanics who dropped out before their apprenticeship was over skulk about, convinced the desire to pare myself down targets them.
Things rattle and clink and fall apart - children flew out of me like rubbish down a chute fat and overflowing I gave up on locating the fault and the plumbers arrived too late.
Tiredness runs through my veins I, soon used up, in whose house little strangers accumulate in carelessly pushed-together beds repeatedly replaced with new ones without footboards so they can grow unimpeded in their sleep.
With immense effort I break the water of my undesired life. A loud splash fills the world. We're downsizing I tell the nosy neighbour and retreat to a perfectly round room bringing only the necessities: a coffee tin whose lid fits and slips into place without a sound to my endless delight in the unbroken silence I have craved all my life.
(p. 138-140)
Beveik stiklo gaubtas, ir gal ne veltui - galbūt ta mergaitė nemirė nei su Plath, nei su Ditlevsen, turbūt nemirs ji ir su mumis. Paradoksalu, bet pilni nerimo ir neišsipildžiusių lūkesčių, nepatogių formų, netelpantys į kontūrus Ditlevsen eilėraščiai man tapo savotišku "comfort read", ne atstūmė, o įsileido, pasijutau pabuvusi ir daniškame lietuje, ir ne-hygge gyvenime - net truputį nesmagu, kad tik kaip muziejaus lankytoja, vėliau grįšianti į savo įprastesnių formų gyvenimą. Kažką tarsi likau skolinga ar Ditlevsen, ar tai nenorinčiai numirti mergaitei iš jos širdies.
Ich bin absolut begeistert von diesem Gedichtband! Tove Ditlevsen ist meine Lieblingsautorin und ich liebe es, ihre Werke zu lesen. Die Gedichte sind tiefgründig und berührend, und es ist faszinierend zu sehen, wie sie mit Sprache umgeht. Ihre Worte haben eine tiefe Wirkung auf mich hinterlassen und mich sehr nachdenklich gemacht.
Ich habe auch ihre Kopenhagen-Trilogie gelesen und es ist interessant zu sehen, wie ihre Lebenserfahrungen in ihre Lyrik einfließen. Es gibt viele Parallelen zwischen ihren Gedichten und ihrer Biografie, und man hat alles dadurch noch einmal mehr verstanden und gesehen, wie sie ihr Leben halt auch in zum Beispiel Gedichten verarbeitet.
Ich hab mir schon wirklich lange Zeit drauf gefreut, dieses Buch zu lesen und bin froh, dass es jetzt dann auch auf Deutsch war.
I was genuinely surprised by how much I enjoyed this collection. While I was already aware of Tove Ditlevsen’s critical acclaim, I had primarily thought of her as an author rather than a poet. This collection, however, proved just how multifaceted and talented she truly was.
Spanning the entirety of her career, the collection is thoughtfully arranged, allowing readers to trace the evolution of her voice and style over time. Even her earliest poems are striking in their emotional depth and clarity. Ditlevsen explores themes such as complex family relationships, motherhood, love, divorce, and the many forms of survival inherent to womanhood. Her reflections feel both personal and universal, often achingly honest yet never self-indulgent.
What especially impressed me was her ability to balance the deeply melancholic aspects of her work with moments of dry, wry humor that landed perfectly. It gave the collection a layered tone that felt deeply human.
Reading this has not only given me a newfound appreciation for Ditlevsen as a poet, but also made me eager to explore more of her work. I now feel as though I’ve righted a personal literary oversight, and I’m all the better for it!
Jeg er så glad for, at Tove Ditlevsen har fået en renæssance. Ellers havde jeg højst sandsynligt aldrig fået læst hendes digte og opdaget, hvor smukt og sørgmodigt og humoristisk og hårdslående hun skriver på én og samme tid.
For mig kunne (og kan) Tove noget særligt, fordi hun ikke var bange for at tage afsæt i det banale, det kedelige, som andre lyrikere måske følte sig for fine til, og hun gør det i et sprog, som selv arbejderen eller sågar pigen i 6. klasse kan forstå. I forlængelse heraf skriver Olga Ravn i efterordet at:
“Det er disse digte, der skrives frem i en form, der ikke søger det originale udtryk, som ikke vil make it new. Hvad vil de så? De vil reaktualisere det af traditionen bortkastede, de poetiske brokker på møddingen. Hvorfor vil de det? Fordi det at bruge et ikketidssvarende sprog både er en arbejderdigters fuck you til de fine høj-modernister og samtidig er en måde at genoplive det bortkastede sprog.”
Og udvalget af digte understreger netop, at Tove Ditlevsen ikke blot forstod at skrive sig ud af lyriktraditioner rent stil- og sprogmæssigt, men også på det indholdsmæssige plan, hvor hun giver plads til at dyrke melankolien* og det uskønne i at købe en liter mælk eller få et forkølelsessår*. Hun nægtede at indtage rollen som den tilfredse husmor, som gik op i madlavning, blomsteropsatser og forældremøder*, og det kommer til udtryk i hendes digte til stor glæde for alle andre, som ikke kan genkende sig selv i den typisk tilgængelige kvinderolle.
i am both surprised and not by how greatly i have enjoyed this collection! Ditlevsen seems to have been an adult who clearly remembered what being a child felt like. her poetry is touching, heartbreaking, and very, very special.
Wat houd ik toch ontzettend van het kleine heelal dat Ditlevsen met haar oeuvre heeft geschapen en waar Lammie Post-Oostenbrink ons toegang toe heeft verschaft.
A couple of years ago, I read and loved Tove Ditlevsen autobiographical Copenhagen Trilogy, so when I was offered an advance copy of this collected volume of selected poetry, translated into English for the first time, I jumped at the opportunity. Even if I hadn't been familiar with Ditlevsen's name, the singularly evocative title would've been enough to catch my eye!
As someone who is trilingual, translation fascinates me, particularly in the case of poetry—how do you stay true to the meaning while maintaining the original rhythm and style, not to mention a rhyme? It's a real art, a balancing act on a razor's edge, but since I don't speak Danish to compare, it's impossible to say how well the translators lived up to this challenging task; I can only attest that having read Ditlevsen's (translated) autobiographies, the voice in these selected poems rang true to me.
Written throughout her entire adult life, dated from 1939 to 1973, each of these poems is disarmingly confessional, and a large part of them still resonated with my own modern female experience: The hopefulness of childhood, anguish of lost youth, agonies of growing old(er), devastation of ruined love, a rather conflicted, negative view of motherhood, dark humour, and a certain fascination with death. I believe that a familiarity with Ditlevsen's biography adds important context to these bleak, intense, nihilist poems, and the introduction does a fairly good job at giving an overview of her tumultuous life, explaining the pervasive sense of dissatisfaction and oppressive sadness that blankets the collection.
I recommend this to anyone interested in mid-century poetry by a woman from a working-class background, stifled by the confinements of her gender, and would suggest reading each dated section in tandem with Ditlevsen's autiobiographies to get the full impact of her words.
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Note: I received an ARC of this book in exchange for an honest review.
I want to die in ashen moonlight awhirl with a thousand snowflakes, they will flutter through my hands and hair and wrap me in an icy shroud.
A huge credit to translator to keep the essence and style of Tove Ditlevsen, ensuring the spirit of the poem isn't lost in the process. A lovely collection about growing up and still being in touch with girlhood and the dreams that spun from that time. As the poet grows older and the poems morph from girlish anxiety to existential dread, the underlying emotion that makes up the poet clings to nostalgia of the past. From first love, to anguish to heartache to yearning and resulting in scorn - as it is so in many relationships, her poems explores these ideas as experiences and ties to her existence as woman in a patriarchal society.
One of the criticisms on Tove's poetry was that it was restrictive in its old-fashioned rhyming scheme when postmodernism and free verses were all in vogue. Its the 50s when poetry dramatically changed, tonally and structurally, Tove continued with the style she had pursued all her life and continued to reaffirm the same battles that were waged on women for decades if not centuries, while her contemporaries were challenging poetic forms and reading experience. Yet the poems she pens are raw and directly speaks to the readers in a grounded honesty.
A great collection that grow over pages, as Tove Ditlevsen evolves from a girl to a woman.
Thank you to Netgalley and Farrar, Straus and Giroux for providing me with a free copy of this e-book in exchange for an honest review.
Tove je moje oblíbená spisovatelka, jako první ale psala poezii. Kdyz jsem teda videla tuhle knihu v knihkupectvi v Berlíně, musela jsem koupit, i kdyz normalne poezii tolik nečtu. Nezklamala, bylo to lidské a autentické. Navíc tim, ze uz znam její život z dalsich knih, jsem se na to dokázala mnohem více napojit.
really enjoyed the simplicity of these poems, very interior and addressing ditlevsen’s childhood self, tumultuous relationships, and her own children. i liked seeing how her writing style evolved throughout the years. a woman’s mind, the secret window, and the adults were my favorite sections. also loved olga ravn’s foreword and the translators’ note. made me want to reread the copenhagen trilogy!
thank you to fsg and netgalley for the e-arc - publishes march 11th!
Det er svært at rate digte. Jo flere jeg læste, jo mere følte jeg, at jeg forstod Tove Ditlevsen, hvilket jeg aldrig har prøvet før. Der er boget sårbart og åbent i dem, der imponerede mig
Zitten echt pareltjes tussen. Hou zo van Tove en haar manier van in de wereld zijn. Gedichten uit haar hele schrijvende leven (zo’n 40 jaar) dus je merkt veel veranderingen qua stijl. Het gedicht over op je tenen lopen, ja zeggen, zelfportret 1, pak mijn hart dan en alleen voor jou zijn het allermooist en liefst.
“Het was vast niet noodzakelijk om met hem te trouwen om vooruit te komen in de wereld, maar niemand had me ooit verteld dat een meisje iets op eigen kracht kon bereiken.”
“Sterven is de zin verliezen / om dingen te slopen / waar een ander van houdt.”
“Liegen is verrukkelijk - met grote blauwe ogen fabuleren over zaken waar je niets van weet.”
“Ik vrees voor / de plek die ik / inneem in andermans hoofd. / ze wijzen me op dingen / die ik zelf vergeten ben.”
“En je weet / dat grote kinderen vaker de / waarheid spreken dan grote mensen.”
Ik snap nu waarom - als we de Kopenhagen-trilogie mogen geloven - iedereen die Tove kende en haar poëzie las volledig in vervoering van haar raakte.
Vooral ‘The Schoolchildren’ vond ik erg lief; hier een stukje daaruit:
They stumble along like scattered troops every morning, come rain or shine, milk-moustached and shaking off sleep, perpetually small and never on time.
En ‘Self Portrait 1’:
I cannot: cook pull of a hat entertain company wear jewellery arrange flowers remember appointments send thank-you cards leave the right tip hold onto a man feign interest at parent-teacher meetings (…) I can: be alone do the dishes read books make sentences listen and be happy without feeling guilty.
Tot slot, passend genoeg, ‘Afterthought’:
When a woman writes little devils swarm her most productive years as well as men whom she only manages to love badly and from a distance
Normalt er jeg ikke den store digtlæser, men denne fine indbundne blå udgave af Tove Ditlevsens digte fangede mine øjne og derfor måtte jeg eje den. Jeg nød egentlig at læse digtene, fordi Ditlevsen skriver i et sprog der er til at forstå, modsat mange andre digtere i den danske litteraturhistorie. Mange fine digte om livets små og store spørgsmål, samt hvem vi som menneske er.
baby's first poetry collection! interesting insight into Ditlevsen's thoughts/ feelings/ worries through different life stages. I also find myself worrying about some of the same things (every second page is dog-eared). There might be emotionally "heavy" topics throughout, but definitely worth the read!