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When Was Wales? A History of the Welsh

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When has Wales been able to describe itself as an independent nation and will it ever be able to do so in the future? The question of national identity has affected the Welsh throughout their history. Drawing on myth, legend and poetry and on the talents and ambitions of soldiers, labourers, politicians and churchmen the author tells the story of the Welsh with an understanding of his fellow countrymen.

352 pages, Paperback

First published January 3, 1985

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Gwyn Alfred Williams

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Gwyn Alfred "Alf" Williams was a Welsh historian particularly known for his work on Antonio Gramsci and Francisco Goya as well as on Welsh history.

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96 reviews
July 18, 2022
A hell of a lot of medieval stuff to get through, but really comes alive when he hits the 18th century or so. Wish there was more history like this being written! Serious, accessible, unashamedly Marxist without feeling the need to genuflect to seven different theorists and dress up fairly straightforward stuff in American academic mystification.

It's written in 1985, as the miners strike was being broken and you really feel it. Williams was not even particularly confident that Wales would continue to exist. Funny that he couldn't see a future for the place, but he points to it all through the final chapters. Worth your time!
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7 reviews
April 29, 2021
Amazing book, one I sincerely wish I had read years ago but very grateful that I have done so now. Great insight into what has shaped Wales over the last millennium or so. The last chapter that he would have wrote in 1985 or so really does paint a bleak picture for Wales as a country, would love to think that he would have some more cause for optimism that things are starting to turn a corner if he saw Wales today.
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53 reviews
July 8, 2019
A roller-coaster ride through two millennia of Welsh history, packed with detail and the author's rich, fiery language that leaves the reader catching his or her breath. While 'Gwyn Alf' clearly writes from a Marxist, soft-nationalist perspective, he has an ever-so-fading hope for the future of Wales in the age of Thatcherism (this book was published in 1985) and he sadly did not live to see devolution (he died in 1995) or the re-assertion of Wales' national identity - continually evolving - that has arguably occurred since then. I'd be interested to know what he would make of Brexit if he were alive today. A thoroughly recommended read, although I'd advise you familiarise yourself with at least a basic outline of Welsh history first of all.
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161 reviews5 followers
June 25, 2018
One of my favorite books on generic Welsh history. Gwyn Alf has a unique writing style, and is not afraid to include humor and, dare one say, bias in his works.
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April 30, 2019
Incredibly enlightening book. His closing statements are as true today as they were when he wrote it.
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6 reviews
December 20, 2023
An excellent summary of how Wales as a nation came to be. Gwyn Alf's poetic writing style draws you in and keeps you there. Was seriously hard to put down.
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September 24, 2019
Surprisingly thin on materialist conception of history given that was written by a Marxist.
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16 reviews3 followers
February 23, 2014
Fantastic history of the region of Britain we call Wales' by one of Wales greatest historians. I learned a LOT I didn't know and expanded views on things I had heard of or read about elsewhere. Gwyn Williams put events in context in ways I didn't and probably couldn't have, to give a great, expanded history of Wales. I would totally recommend this book to anyone who wants to learn Welsh history and how it effects what Wales is today. A great book!
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10 reviews1 follower
May 10, 2012
Love Gwyn A. Williams' writing but to study and use him as a secondary source is infuriating!
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January 28, 2021
A history of Wales with fiery prose and a Marxist tinge from the man who introduced Gramsci to the British left.
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