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Bluewater Bay #9

When to Hold Them

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Doran Callaghan doesn't know when to fold ’em. His gambling has landed him in debt and in jail, and now it’s got him stuck in the sticks in a reintegration program. He wants to turn his life around, but old habits come knocking, and some creditors are harder to shake than others.

Xavier Wagner cares more about the National Park he works in than the people around it, until a stranger awakens desires he didn't know he had. Doran's natural submissiveness turns Xavier’s ideas of how to treat a lover upside down. But Doran doesn't seem to know about boundaries—or even to have any—and Xavier’s not sure that Doran will say no if he needs to. Which means someone’s going to get hurt.

While Xavier struggles with his principles, Doran's past comes calling. Trusting each other is suddenly a matter of life or death, but Doran has to decide whether counting on Xavier—or himself—is a gamble he’s willing to take.

221 pages, Kindle Edition

First published August 15, 2015

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G.B. Gordon

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G.B.Gordon worked as a packer, landscaper, waiter, and coach before going back to school to major in linguistics and, at 35, switch to less backbreaking monetary pursuits like translating, editing, and writing. Having lived in various parts of the world, Gordon is now happily ensconced in suburban Ontario with the best of all husbands.

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3,549 reviews1,090 followers
April 24, 2015
I was lucky enough to get an ARC of this book from the publisher. This is the ninth book in the Bluewater Bay series, but as the series has progressed, the books have become less related and completely detached from the Wolf Landing concept. And that's more than okay.

Xavier is a ranger, more comfortable outside on the trail than inside. He is biracial and has incredibly supporting parents. Xavier is independent, demanding, and likes to be in control.

When Xavier realizes that the "kid" who works in tourist information has a puppy crush on him, he can't resist getting to know him better.

Doran is on probation and in a program for gambling addicts. The blurb is not entirely accurate, as the book states that Doran was never sentenced to jail time. His uncle bailed him out, and he was put on probation.

As Xavier points out, Doran had every rug pulled out from under him. He's scattered and doesn't focus easily, unless he's holding a pencil and drawing.

But Doran isn't shy around Xavier. Xavier does funny things to his insides, and all Doran wants is to be Xavier's.



There's an interesting power dynamic in the relationship. Doran wants to give up all control, but Xavier worries that he's taking advantage of the younger man. Granted, at 22 Doran is only five years younger than Xavier, but he SEEMS much younger than that.

Xavier demands complete honesty, but Doran worries that if he tells Xavier about his past, Xavier will leave him. And Doran doesn't want to be left. Not EVER.

Doran slid both hands into the open jacket and around that big body that was so much warmer than his own. He wanted to wrap himself up in it, wanted ... All of it. Everything.

Xavier has it all together, while Doran is floundering and scared of his own shadow. He actually has reasons to be, and the ending features a rather suspenseful scene in the mountains, which added plenty of tension to the story.

The steamy scenes in this one are beautiful, not kinky, not exactly, a little abstract for my tastes, a little too . . . controlled, maybe?

But there is certainly explosive chemistry and a real connection between the MCs. I loved the way Doran just gave himself to Xavier and the way Xavier possessed him.



I was worried the ending would be too tentative, and while Doran's issues aren't fully resolved (that would have been too easy and unrealistic), Xavier and Doran trust each other and are working on their communication skills. Xavier pushes less, and Doran shares more.

This is relationship-focused story, and the characters are complex and well sketched.

Because the story is told in a dual POV, we are privy to both men's thoughts. Doran's brain goes a hundred miles per hour, while Xavier mulls and analyzes everything. The juxtaposition is fascinating.

The ending is a HEA, not tentative exactly, but certainly there's more to Doran and Xavier's story. I would love a follow-up!
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2,148 reviews1,064 followers
July 6, 2015
Advanced review copy of When to Hold Them provided by Riptide Publishing via Net Gallery in exchange for an honest review. Cross-posted at Reviews by Jessewave.



So, right off the bat, the author gives us a visual of what main character Park Ranger Xavier Wagner looks like. "The guy looked like Luther flipping West from Resident Evil. Or what West might have looked like if he wasn't fighting zombies." Well, I can tell you exactly what Luther West looks like when he's not fighting zombies. He looks like actor Boris Kodjoe. *jaw drops* Now, there are beautiful men in this world, and then there is Boris Kodjoe. I'm kind of a fan, OK? And having that visual throughout this book just kept me warm and happy. (See above for another photo I came across while reading this book. *dies* I'm in M/M fiction heaven.)

Doran Callaghan is a 22 year old kid really down on his luck. He has a gambling addiction that landed him in jail and is working a menial job to pay off his large debt, all under the watchful eye of his probation officer. He does web design for the Bluewater Bay's Tourist Information site and his office window is across the street from a gas station. Every Sunday afternoon, like clockwork, an overly handsome Park Ranger fills his tank and grabs some lunch. Doran has been pining over the man for weeks and has finally gotten up enough courage to go across the street and buy a sandwich while the Park Ranger is there. His tongue ties in knots and he finds himself ducking out of the store pretty quickly, but not before learning the man's name.

Xavier Wagner is an avid outdoorsman who finds himself back in the closet after college. He moves back to his home town and gets a job helping to maintain his beloved National Park. His parents live nearby and are kind and supportive but he still feels like something is missing in his life. Even regular hook-ups with men are surprisingly unfulfilling.

When Xavier meets Doran, he realizes exactly what has been missing in his life. His need/want/desire to control someone is the bedroom. *squeeeeee* Doran is naturally submissive and really needs someone to help him get his shit together. Someone to take control.

Match made in heaven, right? Not just yet. These men are realistic is the expectations of one another and manage to find out what works and what doesn't work with their respected kinks. (Between all the hot monkey sex that is)

I really enjoyed this story and the drama that eventually threw Doran and Xavier closer together. While Doran comes off as kind of a doormat at first, he proves to be anything but. And that is the sexiest thing of all.

Recommended! Hot sex, pretty boys and OMG, did you know Boris Kodjoe has a new talk show with his wife that premiered TODAY?
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611 reviews372 followers
August 7, 2015
Consider me pleasantly surprised.

I wasn't sure what to expect going in. The Bluewater Bay series series has been a mixed bag for me, and the initial reviews for this book weren't exactly stellar either. But almost as soon as I began reading, I knew this would be a winner.

First, I'm really glad that this series has moved away from the Wolf's Landing (pseudo-Teen Wolf) plotline. I had absolutely no interest in the intricacies of the show, or the effects of fame. And I'm happy that we've gotten to see more of the town of Bluewater Bay as the series has progressed. 'When to Hold Them' took it a step further, and also showed the natural beauty of the surrounding Olympic Peninsula. Between the small-town setting and the wilderness, I was in reader heaven.

Doran struggles with a gambling addiction, and is currently in a state rehabilitation program, working to pay off his gambling debts and manage his addiction. I hadn't read anything that deals with gambling addictions before, so this book was informative to say the least. What stood out to me was Doran's quiet strength. He made many mistakes, but he's working hard, and giving up a lot, to fix them. The only bright spot in his life is when he gets to see the hot park ranger visit the gas station across the street once a week.

Xavier is a park ranger, preferring solitude and the outdoors to human company. He lives outside of Bluewater Bay, only going in to town a couple of days a week. When he runs in to Doran, he realizes that the younger man has a crush on him. He knows he should shut that down quickly, but finds himself increasingly attracted to Doran. What I liked most about Xavier was the self-doubt. He's normally an independent in-control person, but when it comes to Doran, he's full of questions and uncertainty. It made him real, and made me like him a lot more than I would have if Xavier was another one of those "I know best, let me fix you" alpha-male characters.

I really liked that G.B. Gordon tried something new by writing a naturally submissive character, but not resorting to the usual D/s or BDSM line. Doran needs order and control, which Xavier provides for him. But that order and control doesn't come in the form of whips or kneeling, it's in the form of having physical contact, being held at night, and knowing that he has a place where he belongs.

That's not to say that there isn't some hot sex. Doran certainly likes to be dominated in the bedroom, and Xavier likes to do the dominating. Once the two get over their initial hang-ups, they're on fire!

I really enjoyed 'When to Hold Them'. For those who haven't read the other books in the series, this works great as a stand-alone. It appears to be the last book in the series for now, but the Riptide website does say 'more to come'. I'd recommend 'When to Hold Them' for folks who enjoy small-town MM romances with a comfort/healing theme.


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594 reviews1 follower
June 5, 2015
4.5 Stars

This is my favorite book in this series so far (except for The Deep of the Sound, because Amy Lane has a ranking of her own and nobody comes close to her IMO), and I'm so glad it deals with regular guys. It seems like the books are farther and farther away from the movie theme this series started with, and I'm so happy about that!

I loved everything about this book, the characters, the plot, the writing; there was no unnecessary drama added just for the shock factor, and the danger, when it came, was dealt with in a way that worked perfectly for me. There were no stupid characters who don't do what they're told, no complication that result from said stupid characters, it wasn't prolonged or dramatized to the point where it becomes painful or laughable. I just finished a book where that was the case, and I was annoyed to no end, so I can really appreciate the fact that this book was so nicely written.

I liked Doran a lot, I understood how and why he became addicted to gambling, but I also appreciated his maturity when it came down to analyzing his behavior. The chemistry between him and Xavier was off the charts, and even though I thought their relationship progressed too fast, I didn't feel like it wasn't real. The sex wasn't overly descriptive, but it was smokin' hot and there an emotional connection between them that made it very powerful.

Xavier was a very real guy, he demands honesty above all else. He doesn't try to fight the crazy attraction he feels towards Doran, but he's not very sure of himself when it comes to his need to dominate Doran. I loved how that played out, I loved how they communicated about it; I thought the perfect balance was achieved once Xavier stopped being so pushy and Doran started sharing himself more.

I loved the ending, although I'd love a follow-up a few years from now. I bet their kink will be even kinkier, and I'd love to see how Doran changed now that he's secure and feels like he belongs. Great book!
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6,222 reviews489 followers
November 7, 2016
I immediately bought this book (yay for discount :p) after I finished Bluewater Blues because I fell in love with Gordon's writing. I loved the fact that these two books only related to Bluewater in terms of surroundings. I read the earlier books but I have never been a fan of romance about famous people. I prefer the guys and gals next door; which is probably why small town romance is one of my favorites.

Anyway, I loved this as well!! Loved it. Gosh, I think I can add G.B. Gordon books in the Bluewater Bay universe to my watch-list. I just loved his characters and their troubles. And Gordon's writing! For me Gordon's writing made me feel like being wrapped inside a warm blanket when I read it.

I thought Doran as adorable with his crush over Xavier, but I also loved him for fighting with his gambling addiction. I loved Xavier for immediately wanting to protect Doran but at the same time also fighting his internal struggle of controlling one in the bedroom. I even enjoyed their scenes in the bedroom, probably because I loved these characters that I wanted to devour every scenes they had together.

It probably didn't start as a 'balanced' relationship before, with Doran more like a wounded puppy that needed to be taken care of in the beginning. But I think they both are going to be just fine in the end.

Bottom line a very good hurt/comfort read for me :)
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3,726 reviews113 followers
October 11, 2015
ARC provided by the publisher through Scattered Thoughts and Rogue Words in exchange for an impartial review.

Doran Callaghan is paying the ultimate price for his gambling addiction—jail, probation, and a reintegration program that lands him in the town of Bluewater Bay, working part time for the tourist bureau. Most of his work is behind the scenes working on their website, newsletter, and brochures. The office is only open for a few hours each weekend, so he and his coworker have a lot of flexibility in how they schedule the rest of their work week, but Doran manages to make sure he’s there every Sunday at noon because that’s when the gorgeous park ranger, Xavier Wagner, steps into the mini-market across the street. Every Sunday, like clockwork, the truck pulls up and out steps tall, dark, and handsome. Doran has to meet him. He just has to. So he scrapes together enough change to go across the street when the ranger is there. Unfortunately, his first impression—that of a tongue-tied kid—isn’t the best impression to leave on the man of his dreams.

Xavier Mayne doesn’t know what it is about the blond, good-looking kid, but he knows he’s attracted, and since he hasn’t felt that way in quite a while, the next time he sees him, he acts on that attraction and invites the young man out to eat. What they discover is that Doran has a submissive side, and Xavier has a strong compulsion to take charge. But he’s afraid that Doran just doesn’t know how to say no, and nothing about his behavior so far has shaken that belief.

Doran is afraid to share his history with Xavier because once he gets to know the big man, he’s hooked and he’s afraid Xavier will shun him if he knows the truth. He feels safe and secure with him and he loves the feelings he has when Xavier is near. But when they start to act on those feelings, Doran fails to make Xavier believe he can be trusted. Xavier has firm beliefs about truth and trust, and Doran is simply not living up to them. When a miscommunication sends Doran running to a gambling site, they nearly miss their chance at happiness. But when the loan shark Doran knew in the past shows up, it’s Xavier he turns to, and Xavier who is the only person Doran can truly trust.

I really enjoyed this story. It can definitely be read as a standalone since the only thing it has in common with the other stories in the series is the setting. It was emotionally compelling to watch Doran as he struggled with consequences of his life choices, and he finally accepted responsibility for his own actions. And it was equally compelling to watch Xavier as he came to terms with who he is as a gay man, a lover, and a potential Dom. The scene where the two declared their love for each other was completely unexpected and really terrific. Their love and their laughter expressed the joy to be found when one finds the other half of one’s soul.

This was my first story by this author, but it won’t be my last. I recommend this one to lovers of M/M romance, especially those who like an age-gap, early stage D/s relationship, angst, and those who simply can’t get enough of Bluewater Bay.

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3,406 reviews400 followers
December 7, 2017
I was lucky Publisher sent me this book to read.
Doran , ' the kid' yeah, he's 22, but didn't act like 22.
Lack of confidence, probably because of his 'too many baggage' on his shoulder? Who's to blame? Himself.

But I'm glad Xavier has patience for him, maybe because of his kissable lips, or his actually adorable puppy crush on Xavier.
Not a very strong combination for a good relationship.
But I didn't see any relationship until the last few chapters.
It was all Xavier's work. And Doran was just being ' a kid' almost all the time, exceptional when Actually that was very sweet of him.

Doran is definitely 'need' Xavier in his life. He's just like a lost puppy , and Xavier is a right man for him.
We have a happy ending. But there's still so much story that we can see following in the future. I just hope Xavier and Doran are strong enough to face it.

ARC given by publisher through Netgalley.

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1,170 reviews76 followers
August 17, 2015
3.5 Rolls of the Dice.... or Stars. Which ever you like. Rounding up because reasons.

A buddy read with Gabby. You may check out our review at Boys In Our Books. A fun time was had by both of us.
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Author 42 books521 followers
September 2, 2015
I really enjoyed this story--smoking hot sexual chemistry between the guys, a really interesting conflict, and of course, the Bluewater Bay setting.
Gordon's voice is unique in this genre, and I think I will never get enough. :)
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August 25, 2015
ARC of When to Hold Them provided by the the publisher via NetGalley in exchange for an honest review. ​


When to Hold Them is my least favorite of the Bluewater Bay series, thus far. I could not feel the connection between the characters and I didn't much like them. Doran ​constantly acted like a child and Xavier was just too pushy​,​ too quickly. Who demands all of another person's secrets on the first date? Not a reasonable person. I think bossy in the bedroom can be hot, but otherwise, he was just pushy.

I did like the SMART program that Doran got into, though. I'm not really a fan of 12 step programs because they seem to focus on convincing you that you are powerless to change and just how unworthy you are. Seems counter-productive. SMART was different. Make you do the risk analysis and do the work to change your thinking and the compulsion you're battling, while offering support and guidance along the way.

​The sex was hot, but without feeling the connection between the MC's, I'm left with a feeling of meh. A couple of my friends quite enjoyed this one, but me? Not so much.​
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355 reviews63 followers
May 29, 2015
I received an ARC of this book from the publisher via NetGalley in exchange for an honest review.

I readily admit to being a sucker for stories about guys on probation trying to make amends for previous mistakes. Doran is on probation and must attend a programe for gambling addicts as part of his release conditions. He must also hold down a job in a Tourist Information centre. Doran is ashamed of the mistakes he has made and his self-esteem has taken a knock.

Doran has spotted Xavier a ranger, and finally picks up the nerve to speak to him. Doran finds himself desperately attracted to Xavier and also a little tongue tied. His inner dialogue is endearing as he tries to overcome his nerves.

Xavier is independent, demanding, and likes to be in control. Initially he thinks of Doran as a kid, and although he grows to respect Doran he does often call him kid (even though there is only a five-year age gap). Xavier demands total honesty and that is a concern for Doran who believes that Xavier will no longer be interested when he discovers about his past and gambling addiction.

The story is told from both main character's POV, Xavier discovers that he likes to take control, but worries that this may be inappropriate. Doran finds Xavier's dominant approach incredibly sexy. Their love life is certainly spiced up by the dynamic they discover together.

I thought When To Hold Them was beautifully romantic. The characters are complex and well drawn. Xavier has the benefit of supportive parents. He likes to analyse situations and is content with his life as the 'lone wolf'as his dad affectionately describes him. At his core Xavier is honourable.

Doran has not had a steady home life (his mother threw him out of the house uncomfortable with his sexuality) and he feels he let his uncle down so he barely keeps in touch. Doran's thoughts are more scattered. He has an inner strength and artistic nature that Xavier fosters. although he can find focus through his artistry.

This is much more relationship focused than erotic. There is also an unexpected twist that puts both of the protagonists in danger.

I give When to Hold Them a glowing four stars, it took me a couple of chapters to warm to the story, having been intrigued by the blurb. I only realised this is the ninth book in the Bluewater Bay series once I checked it out on Goodreads, perhaps that explains my initial resistance. It works well as a standalone novel, and very soon I was hooked.

I love the artistry and craft in G B Gordon's writing, this is the second book I have read (the first being The Other Side of Winter)
On the strength of these two books, I will definitely be adding G B Gordon to my favourite authors pile.
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498 reviews29 followers
October 2, 2015
I think I now need to look into the rest of this series! Things I most liked about this book was the outdoors/park service element, the true struggle of recovering for a gambling addiction, the way the one MC is taking personal responsibility for those he has hurt, and inter-racial relationship. I have not read any of the others in this series, but from reading this one, it looks as if it is okay to read each as a standalone.
Even so, I am now very interested in the rest of the books in this small town series. I have read this author in the past, and very much enjoyed the attention to detail in the descriptions outside of and including the characters. An enjoyable story, and it did its job of introducing me to a wonderful small town atmosphere in Washington State, one of the jewels of the Northwest, and very easily imagined from the descriptions used within the text.
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1,781 reviews1 follower
October 12, 2015

This book is the 9th book of the Bluewater Bay series...but can be read as a stand alone. It takes place in Bluewater and Port Angeles but has nothing in common with the previous books. No one from Wolf’s Landing cast and crew was even mentioned.

I liked Xavier, the fucking hot, dominant Park Service ranger... Doran, well... the shy guy is addicted to gambling and in need to give up control. Xavier seems to be everything Doran ever wanted in a man.
The guys get their HEA but there's still so much story left to be told that I hope to meet them again later in the series.

I look forward to reading more books of the Bluewater Bay universe.
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1,283 reviews49 followers
December 7, 2016
DNF 49%

This book just isn't "working" for me. First off, I was worried about the relationship between the two MC being a D/s which I really have to be in a certain mood to read, but then, as the story progressed, I realized it's more of me not connecting with either character. I don't "get" either of them. They don't feel genuine. Something about them is just off.

Doran is a gambler, at the point I stopped (49%) what I know is he is on a program of getting better, he recently started going to a group (he hates) he has a job and an apartment to live in but he has "restrictions" to help him minimize the opportunity to gamble. So let's start here, this is the WORST time to get in a relationship - not only for him, because he is in a very unstable place, and CERTAINLY not for a guy just meeting him and hearing about the fact he is a gambler paying for his actions. Listen, NO guy would just hop right in and play like he doesn't care. It doesn't make ANY sense AT ALL. It's totally and absolutely UNrealistic. Basically while I got what Doran saw in Xavier, I didn't understand Xavier AT ALL. He was struggling with his attraction to "the kid" (22 years old Doran, younger by 6 years) and also the puzzlement over his need to "boss him around" as Doran seems to crave.

The relationship buildup was non existent, or rather, it moved SO fast, I'm not even sure how it happened. I mean, having sex twice doesn't make a relationship. Especially as they barely know each other. While Xavier was having his difficulties with making Doran own up to his wants but also his limitations, he was basically behaving like someone's mother (not a very patient one..). His temper was hot-cold at times and I didn't get the impression as to why or what triggered those emotions. I didn't get what he saw in Doran except for attraction and maybe a need to "own" him. He knew that right from the start? okay.. maybe.. I don't know. It felt like a relationship I would expect to find between a teacher and his student. Totally off in it's dynamics. I found Xavier to be condescending even. Expecting Doran to answer questions NO ONE answers after such a short time. Xavier kept calling Doran a kid and he WAS. He is immature and seems totally incapable of dealing with life without the carefully structured life build for him. Again, this is NOT the right time to meet someone, specifically when right from the start we see he tries to put Xavier in charge of his actions. While it could be convenient as hell, it's also WRONG on so many levels which means it would have been the time for Xavier to step away. He didn't..

At the beginning I enjoyed the writing, the pace of the story, but as it progressed, I realized I don't even LIKE the two MC. I don't believe them, they are not genuine and their D/s interaction just didn't appeal to me. I really wanted to give this one a better chance which is why I kept reading and hoping to get a better sense of the characters, though we got a little bit of a background it wasn't enough for me to establish WHY they are acting the way they do. Why finding each other is the right "fix" for them when it totally feels as though they are WRONG for each other now because Xavier is exactly the kind of guy who can make everything even worse on Doran (addiction vise) if he EVER let Doran down. I didn't see ANY backbone to Doran. He was a leaf looking for a place to park his lonesome body.

I'm sorry, I know this review sounds horrible. I think it's probably one of the worst I've ever written. I know it has A LOT to do with the BDSM vibe, but it also has to do with credibility which I felt was missing, at least for me. You might feel totally different, or if you ARE into D/s relationship you might really appreciate the interaction between the characters, you might even get it in a way I could never grasp.

One thing I gotta say, this series is SO eclectic! Each book is TOTALLY it's own thing even if the town they live in is the same one and even if some of the characters know each other or work together. Honestly it's hard to know what to expect from each one which is actually a NICE thing. I've read the synopsis of the next book in the series by G.B. Gordon and I gotta say I'm REALLY intrigued, I hope it would leave a totally different impression.

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7,046 reviews869 followers
August 17, 2015
Slick's review posted at Guilty Pleasures Book Reviews

From the start I've been hooked on the books in Riptide's Bluewater Bay series and I've loved most of them; as the series has progressed it is no longer focusing on the Wolf's Landing television show and the people who have come to this sleep Washington town to film but it is focusing on the "regular" people who make up the town. That's not a bad thing, it is just the way the series has evolved and why shouldn't it as the townspeople deserve happiness too. For Xavier Wagner a National Park service ranger he really prefers the wilderness and animals to people but when he runs into Doran Callaghan at the gas station there's something about the "kid" that makes him want to know more. This was a story of contrasts; it was sweet yet extremely sexy, there was good and bad and while some things came quite easily to this pair other things were very difficult. I enjoyed this book especially given that it was an interracial gay romance and the fact that even though one of the main characters had some baggage there wasn't a whole lot of drama or angst.

On probation and in a reintegration program for gambling addiction Doran Callaghan is fighting to change his life one day at a time. He feels the call of gambling even buying lottery tickets every once in awhile just for that gambler's high. At 22 Doran has been through a lot and while his life hasn't always been easy he's brought many issues upon himself. Doran doesn't feel safe, not really yet there is something about the park ranger that he sees every Sunday that lures him and makes him want to take a chance.

Xavier Wagner has a good life with a job he loves and parents that have supported him through everything even accepting that he's gay. When he sees Doran in the gas station he's somewhat intrigued but lets it go because he thinks he's way younger than him but when they cross paths again he can't deny the draw he has towards the young man who really is only 5 years younger. Realizing that Doran brings out his dominate side with his natural submissiveness not only thrills Xavier but scares him as well.

I really enjoyed the push/pull to this relationship and found it both frustrating and fascinating. Doran hates being make to check in and keep on track with his programs because he doesn't have a choice but yet he loves it when Xavier tells him what to do. I really wanted Doran to explore that and figure out why he liked giving up that control to Xavier but hated when he had to do it for others and while I believe it was because it was his choice to give Xavier the control he never really figured that out for himself. I liked that Xavier worried that Doran would allow him to push too far; this wasn't a true D/s relationship yet there were some elements of that involved. I would have liked them to discuss it a little more and perhaps even discuss a safe word but I think that they both felt it wasn't necessary which bothered me slightly. Doran's fear that if Xavier knew everything about him led to some problems and while there were moments of insecurity on both sides I liked that these two didn't play games and communicated fairly well.

I'll admit that I was really hoping that Doran and Xavier's Dad, Karl, would bond over their creativity and was kind of sad that the storyline of Karl needing an apprentice for his furniture designing and building didn't go anywhere. I did however love that Karl was completely accepting and welcoming of Doran into his son's life.

Overall, When To Hold Them was a very good story that was completely driven by the relationship of two seemingly mismatched people. There weren't a lot of extra people in this story to bog it down or even a whole lot of conflict it simply was two people figuring out how to deal with the cards that life handed them and making the most out of it.

Review copy provided for an honest review.
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1,528 reviews44 followers
August 19, 2015
This is a story in the Bluewater Bay series, but can be fully enjoyed as a standalone novel.

Doran is 22 y/o man with a gambling addiction. He ran up some substantial debt to a card shark, and then embezzled money from his uncle's clients in order to pay it back. This was doubly hard to do as Doran respects his uncle greatly--he took Doran in after his mother disowned him for being gay. Doran tries to comply with his parole agreement, attending GA sessions and working at his job in the tourism office redesigning the Bluewater Bay website and travel brochures. He sets aside some of his weekly allowance to repaying his uncle, but the urge to gamble is strong. In fact, the only urge that even compares is Doran's obsession with catching sight of a local forest ranger whose truck appears at the gas station across the street from his office every Sunday afternoon.

One Sunday Doran's too overwhelmed to simply observe--he enters the gas station to buy his lunch at the same time Officer Xavier Wagner is chatting up the attendant. And, a few days later, Doran can't help sneaking a peek inside Xavier's truck. It's a miracle to him that Xavier is polite.

Xavier is a man between worlds. Son of a German emigre and a black woman, he's not "black enough," and he's not "straight enough" for his mother's conservative church. He lives in a cabin in the woods, preferring solitude--though he'd make an exception to bringing home the man-child he caught snooping in his truck. The desires that awaken when he's near Doran almost scare Xavier--he wants to have him, to own him, and Doran is (even more frightening) into it.

Xavier doesn't tolerate secrets or lies, so he's put off when Doran's evasive about his personal history. Doran's so anxious to not be a cast off that he comes to terms with his inner steel, and stands up for himself, which was great to see. The dynamic that is developing here is one of limited D/s with many hints at it going further as more trust develops. The gambling addiction made for a nice character development with Doran--his ability to be so "all in" with Xavier, his impulsiveness, his remorse and "getting it" about chasing the thrill. All of those rounded Doran out nicely.

I had wanted a bit more steam. The sexytimes were nice, but felt whitewashed and ephemeral, removing me from the players which was mildly disappointing. Still the mountainside hunt was an interesting plot point. I appreciated how Xavier took great care of Doran, and left the story feeling as if these two were going to make it long-term. Yay!

I received a review copy of this book via NetGalley.
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Author 70 books740 followers
August 17, 2015
My Review:
This is the first time I've read this author. He has a much more artistic, flowy style of writing than what I'm used to. And I'll be honest with you, I'm still not sure if it was something I liked or not. But overall, the book worked for me. I really liked both characters. Doran is a bit messed up, but everything he's gone through seems pretty harsh for a single mistake. I loved his artistic side and how he could see the world around him in how he would draw it. And I really enjoyed that Xavier is a forest ranger. His love for the outdoors really comes through in the gorgeous outdoor scenes. And I loved Xavier's family dynamic. His dad cracks me up, but watching Xavier take care of his mom melted my heart.

There's a lot going for this book. The setting is phenomenal and made for great climactic scenes that I absolutely adored. Overall, I enjoyed both guys. Xavier isn't so sure, but I love that Doran is willing to do whatever because he knows right away that Xavier is the guy that he wants. It just takes a bit for him to convince Xavier of that. And even that aspect of the story worked for me.

I don't think I've ever read a book with an addicted gambler. It was interesting to see into his mindset and how his addiction was really about the adrenaline rush rather than the win/lose aspect. I enjoyed seeing his struggles within the meetings and his requirements and felt so much empathy for him in that. Religion isn't for everyone and shoving it down someone's throat in that venue seems all kinds of wrong. I definitely felt for the guy...and wanted to get him a good rain-resistant, warm coat!

Xavier is a take charge kind of guy. That really comes forth in his interactions with Doran and he's not exactly comfortable with it. This was where the author's style didn't quite do it for me. Nothing is ever stated. It's all just kind of inferred, even in Xavier's inner monologue. He wants to dominate Doran sexually, but can't even say the actual words in his head. Something about that just didn't sit right with me. I'm a straight-forward girl and I like straight-forward writing. The thing is, I'm not sure if that was a character thing or an author thing. But Xavier is a huge fan of poetry and so I was able to blame a lot of his style of thinking on that, whether that was really the intent or not...LOL.

I received a complimentary copy of this book in return for an honest review.
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1,944 reviews58 followers
August 17, 2015
I have to admit, this wasn't my favorite so far in the Bluewater Bay series, but it was still a great addition.

First, I really liked When to Hold Them. As I said, it was a great addition to the Bluewater Bay series, which is fast becoming one of my favorite M/M Contemporary series. If I had to rank my favorites out of all of the Bluewater Bay books so far, this one wouldn’t fall close to the top. My only reasoning though is because it was so far removed from the rest of the series. That’s not a bad thing though because out of all of the books so far, this one comes closer to a stand alone read than any of the others. Therefore, there’s no reason not to start here if you haven’t picked up any of the other books in the series yet. ;)

Xavier was one of the strongest characters yet and I really liked that about him. He was level headed and devoted to his job and his family. He had a very strong sense of who he was… until he met Doran.

Doran was the complete opposite, but he was trying. He needed direction and more than that he needed self esteem. He was given a chance to turn himself around and he didn’t want to blow it, but he needed some positive reinforcement. Xavier was just the person to give it to him, if he didn’t screw it up.

Xavier and Doran had a lot to learn about each other and themselves and even though their story was a rocky one, I still enjoyed their journey.

There weren’t a lot of supporting characters in When to Hold Them, but I loved Xavier’s parents, especially his dad. He had a great way of stating the obvious, which Xavier needed from time to time.

I’m not sure what’s next for the Bluewater Bay series, but I hope there’s more. As much as I love meeting new characters and finding out what’s going on outside of the Wolf’s Landing cast and crew, I still enjoy catching up with previous characters.

I received When to Hold Them in exchange for a fair and honest review.
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3,977 reviews433 followers
July 17, 2016
Holy cow this book's hot and steamy and seductive with just enough sharpness to stop it becoming all a bit too much.
The two MCs are studies in contrasts and I loved the family acceptance and backbone of strength which allowed Xavier the freedom to be his own man.
Doran's unhappy upbringing also worked as the driving force for his need to find acceptance and a place to call home.
As a pair they were magnificent and even the slightly unbelievable element of the cardshark and his goon chasing them through the wilderness didn't distract from what was a really good tale.
And it's another cover of epic win.
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1,048 reviews19 followers
February 8, 2018
I felt like a largeish chunk was missing in the beginning of this book. They meet, they kiss, they have fumbly sex once and wham, Xavier is thinking Doran has no boundaries and is possibly self destructive. It's like I'm missing scenes, because they haven't done anything more than slightly kinky yet! And he says to Doran "the things I want to do to you", but then it's still very mild. Not that it's not kinky enough, but the way he talks and thinks, it's like they're about to do stuff that could harm Doran physically, which is, to me, at odds with the sex they do have on page. Eh, I'm not convinced, although the book otherwise was OK.
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1,416 reviews142 followers
March 29, 2016
3 Stars

I receive a free eARC of this book from Riptide Publishing via Netgalley in exchange for an honest review.

It was well-written and I liked the characters. I appreciated the respect given to Doran's gambling addiction and the way that it was resolved. The D/s element was not what I normally read, but it was nicely done and very hot. I just wish that the end hadn't felt so out of place. I didn't think the story needed the external drama since there were so many internal issues to deal with.
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478 reviews33 followers
September 11, 2015
I was on the fence for this one, so this is more 3.5 stars overall but in comparison to the books I read before, it has to be four stars. In my G.B. Gordon rating system it isn't. It's a very good book so go forth and read it. IMHO it doesn't measure up the Santuario series by G.B. Gordon, which I pretty much adore.
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Author 3 books29 followers
November 17, 2016
My first introduction to this author was In the Right Light, so I was very excited to find the author continued to write. When to Hold Them has the same qualities that I enjoyed in In the Right Light (beautiful writing, fully developed characters) as well as foibles.

The foibles include a rushed ending and the under developed D/s aspect of the MCs' relationship. Lust at first sight was certainly believable, and maybe, the kinky bits are organic. But how they get to 'I love you' seems almost thrown in because this is a romance. Still, there weren't any typos or continuity errors, the writing was very nice, and NO angst.

So go read it!
207 reviews3 followers
July 24, 2017
Meh. Started as 3.5 and gradually went down on the ratings for me. By the end I had lost most of my connection with the characters and didn't believe in the plot.

I found the addiction element interesting at first, and the alternative to a 12-step program refreshing, but . Also, .

Not a dreadful novel by any means, but missed the mark for me.
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964 reviews117 followers
September 10, 2017
2.5 stars

The writing and plot were mostly good, but something felt off with this story. I couldn’t connect with the characters and I wished everything, from their relationship to Doran’s gambling addiction recovery program, was treated with a little more depth.
Also, the main conflict was a little bit ridiculous. Xavier hadn’t even finished scolding Doran because, according to Xavier, he couldn’t be trusted to state and enforce his own limits, but then he pretended to know every single personal detail of Doran’s life immediately and got pissed off when Doran refused.
In conclusion, this book has good bones, so I could give the author another chance in the future, but I’m pretty sure I’ll forgot everything about it in a couple of weeks at best.
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1,530 reviews
May 17, 2017
I appreciated the fact that one MC is a person of colour, Doran's gambling addiction made the story a bit more intense. Still, their relationship developed at lightspeed () and I couldn't see why; there was too much sex; the dramatic events in the park were a bit too dramatic (. Personal peeve: I don't see why a 26 years old should call a 22 years old ''kid'', especially if the other person doesn't like it.
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2,514 reviews9 followers
October 27, 2018
Another M+M novel from Bluewater Bay even more removed from the glamour of Hollywood and the Series being shot there. Xavier Wagner is black and gay, a big guy who finds it more comfortable working in the wilderness of the nearby National Park as a Forest Ranger. Doran Callaghan is a gay twenty-something wanderer with a gambling addiction placed at a Tourist Bureau to work his computer skills and searching.

The book gets off to a slow start, perhaps Gamblers Anonymous really is boring. It ends with a meet the parents and it can't get more serious than that.
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684 reviews8 followers
February 4, 2017
I really really liked the character of Xavier. Besides having an awesome name (X-Men fan here) he was such an influential and grounding influence on Doran. Another instance of both men being exactly what the other needed mentally and physically. Even though this book is part of the Bluewater Bay series, the town itself doesn't factor all that much in it except for the appearance of Jack Daley from Your Daley Bread and his sister Margaret. Makes sense once you read Bluewater Blues.
143 reviews2 followers
August 11, 2023
Not my favorite from this series or this author. (G.B. Gordon’s Bluewater Blues is much better.) To my view, Doran was too far down the annoying end of the brat spectrum. Insta-lust was handled ok. Drama was a little unrealistic but not too over the top. I did like how G.B. Gordon handled Doran’s addiction and different types of recovery programs. Lastly - this doesn’t affect my rating, but I found it distracting that Doran is described as blond but the cover pic shows him with dark hair.
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