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50 de minute cu Pleşu şi Liiceanu
Durata: 8h 3m
Despre miracolul intalnirii * despre iubire * despre speranta * despre trufie * despre toleranta * despre frica * de ce citim * parabolele raului si judecatii * parabolele pierderii si regasirii * despre umor
E vorba, in aceste dialoguri, de lucruri care ne framanta pe toti, unele pentru ca le suportam zi de zi, altele pentru ca fac parte din constantele vietii insesi. Ce facem cu viata noastra, de ce facem sau spunem prostii, de ce iubim, de ce speram, de ce o intalnire poate fi un miracol, unde trebuie sa inceapa si unde trebuie sa se termine toleranta, ce sens are cititul, ce sa facem cu fricile noastre sunt intrebari care ne privesc pe toti si in jurul carora, constient sau nu, ne construim viata.
50 de minute cu Plesu si Liiceanu
(10 CD-uri audio)
Despre miracolul intalnirii * despre iubire * despre speranta * despre trufie * despre toleranta * despre frica * de ce citim * parabolele raului si judecatii * parabolele pierderii si regasirii * despre umor
E vorba, in aceste dialoguri, de lucruri care ne framanta pe toti, unele pentru ca le suportam zi de zi, altele pentru ca fac parte din constantele vietii insesi. Ce facem cu viata noastra, de ce facem sau spunem prostii, de ce iubim, de ce speram, de ce o intalnire poate fi un miracol, unde trebuie sa inceapa si unde trebuie sa se termine toleranta, ce sens are cititul, ce sa facem cu fricile noastre sunt intrebari care ne privesc pe toti si in jurul carora, constient sau nu, ne construim viata.
50 de minute cu Plesu si Liiceanu
(10 CD-uri audio)
8 pages, Audiobook
Published January 1, 2011
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About the author
Andrei Pleșu
84 books308 followersAndrei Gabriel Pleșu is a Romanian philosopher, essayist, journalist, literary and art critic. He has been intermittently involved in politics assuming the roles of Minister of Culture (1989-91), Minister of Foreign Affairs (1997-99) and presidential counsellor for external affairs (2004-05).
He studied art history at the University of Bucharest and graduated with his bachelor's in 1971. Between 1971 and 1989 he had various jobs like researcher at the Institute of Art History, an institution of Romanian Academy, faculty lecturer in University of Bucharest and consultant for Romanian Artists Union.
After the Romanian Revolution of 1989 that overturned the Communist regime, he was one of the founders of "New Europe College" an institute of advanced studies, and of the cultural magazine "Dilema" (now "Dilema Veche"). He worked as a professor at the Academy of Fine Arts in Bucharest and is now a professor at the University of Bucharest, where he teaches art history and philosophy of religion. He also became involved in politics, serving in various official functions.
Pleşu's early works revolved around art history and theory, but, in time, his essays, published in cultural magazines and elsewhere, became oriented towards cultural anthropology and philosophy. His exuberant writing style gained him recognition as one of the leading Romanian essayists of his age.
Source: Wikipedia.
He studied art history at the University of Bucharest and graduated with his bachelor's in 1971. Between 1971 and 1989 he had various jobs like researcher at the Institute of Art History, an institution of Romanian Academy, faculty lecturer in University of Bucharest and consultant for Romanian Artists Union.
After the Romanian Revolution of 1989 that overturned the Communist regime, he was one of the founders of "New Europe College" an institute of advanced studies, and of the cultural magazine "Dilema" (now "Dilema Veche"). He worked as a professor at the Academy of Fine Arts in Bucharest and is now a professor at the University of Bucharest, where he teaches art history and philosophy of religion. He also became involved in politics, serving in various official functions.
Pleşu's early works revolved around art history and theory, but, in time, his essays, published in cultural magazines and elsewhere, became oriented towards cultural anthropology and philosophy. His exuberant writing style gained him recognition as one of the leading Romanian essayists of his age.
Source: Wikipedia.
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August 24, 2025
50 minutes with Plesu and Liiceanu
10 out of 10
Andrei Plesu and Gabriel Liiceanu have been for some decades the most important thinkers of their country, although they can be wrong – Andrei Plesu seems to dismiss Climate Change in one of these dialogues that have been hosted and broadcast by the state television - and are available on YouTube…there would be a link here, but though the videos have been there for some time, it is not clear if the participants had agreed to their presence – and talks about the cold that we can all feel quite often.
It is preposterous to try and explain here that Climate Change includes extremes (hence it is not just a question of Global Warming, which is confirmed and clear to all, except the very skeptical and hundreds of millions of conspiracy theories enthusiasts, which is not the case of our philosopher, albeit a foolish joker would insist that his faith, belief in god is just the sympathy for yet another conspiracy, only one that is two thousand years old in this situation) and we can assume that Andrei Plesu is relying on God in this matter.
The dialogue is inspiring, there is a great joy in hearing (and eventually watching, the recordings might have been placed on the web by the State Television) two fabulous spirits communicate, debate, not always in perfect agreement, the themes of Love, Special Encounters, Hope, Pride – incidentally, Hope and Positivity are two of ten elements – the others are awe, interest, Amusement (and Andrei Plesu is incredibly jocular at times) inspiration (they are both inspiring), serenity, Joy, Gratitude and Love – of Positivity as identified by the ultimate authority on it, Barbara Fredrickson http://realini.blogspot.com/2015/05/p...
Andrei Plesu manifests a modesty that is endearing and does not dent the gravitas, seriousness, authority with which he talks about the various subjects, though he declines to offer a definitive solution (in the tradition of Socrates) and states that he will not offer enlightenment, solutions to the subject of love and in quite a few other fields…on Love, he explains from the start of the dialogue that he is reserved, and reminds the under signed of Thomas Mann http://realini.blogspot.com/2021/09/t... who had said that we keep hearing people talk of love and how great their feeling is, there are no words to describe it, when on the contrary, Love exists only in art, literature, where the characters keep the same emotion to the end, unlike the humans that lament and lose interest – there is a psychological phenomenon called The Honeymoon Effect, also The Coolidge Effect that show what studies reveal about human love…
Gabriel Liiceanu talks about five years, as the time frame which seems to mark the end of ‘love’, or some relationships that are given the name, whereas studies point to a two years limit which for a large number of people would be the point where they tend to show a bigger interest in the ‘new’ than in the established, present partner…Andrei Plesu tells the story (and the tales are the spice, the ‘pleasure added’ factor that distinguishes the luminary from dry philosophers that are unable to communicate to the public their complicated thoughts, mea culpa for the logorrhea) of his asking Constantin Noica (another demigod of local thought and master for both interlocutors) about advice for love
Constantin Noica said something like ‘choose the woman who declares she will do everything for your future’ and Andrei Plesu concludes (now, he was not sure at the time, decades ago) that Noica had been wrong on this subject, since someone can state that, but without meaning it…he mentions the couples that are hospitalized together and they hate each other so much that they spit at one another…in another instance, we hear the ‘histoire’ of the Peasant who talks to a master Zen about the Zen secret (well, something like that) and he is sent back to feed animals, say goodbye to wife, talk to children again, and again and then he is told this is Zen -what you have done, take care of all your duties and do not forget the Question
In another ‘pilda’, that is attributed to the Christian tradition (only yours truly had heard it with Buddhist protagonists) Monks travel from one monastery to another and they meet with one woman who is unable to cross a river, and she is helped by one monk and then later one other says this was a grave sin, you took the girl in your arms and the ‘sinful’ one replies ‘I took her across and left her there, but you still have her with you’…ascetic does not mean blind it is a long analysis…and we are told that it is interesting how the parables work, apparently simple bible stories have deeper, hidden meanings…
Another story that this listener has liked (it comes to mind that he is into stories and did not have the sophistication, stature to get the complicated arguments, but apparently, he is reduced to hear with mouth opened, the various lullabies) is the one with the rabbi and the treasure, who is told to dig under a bridge, where a guardian comes to ask what is he doing, then the latter mentions that he had had a dream and was told about the treasure, but he does not go about looking for it and then the rabbi follows the clues from the guardian’s dream and…he finds it, the dream within the dream offers the answer…Inception?
Gabriel Liiceanu has his moment of humor (though he is almost always grave and troubled by the state of the world, his country) when he mentions Romeo and Juliet and the fact that he has not seduced her with his ‘pectorals’, but with the word, the mind and the beautiful words (well, Shakespeare’s unless one is buying into conspiracy theories, one of the books I have read recently mentions Queen Elizabeth I as a possible author of the works of the greatest writer of all time, but that is just a joke)
Andrei Plesu may be wrong on the issue of happiness, for he argues that Concentrating on happiness is sure to bring about the opposite effect, and though it sounds and could well be common sense and true, the under signed had been reading for a few years (but more or less stopped about four years ago) positive psychology and it does seem that there are rules that we could, should apply, even Concentrating on Happiness, with rituals that we need to apply every day (exercise the body and mind) use change, gratitude (there is also a ‘Count your blessings exercise), Imagine the Best Possible Future…the list is long and you can find some enlightenment by looking for Tal Ben-Shahar, Sonja Lyubomirsky, Martin Seligman, Ed Diener on the internet and in libraries…
10 out of 10
Andrei Plesu and Gabriel Liiceanu have been for some decades the most important thinkers of their country, although they can be wrong – Andrei Plesu seems to dismiss Climate Change in one of these dialogues that have been hosted and broadcast by the state television - and are available on YouTube…there would be a link here, but though the videos have been there for some time, it is not clear if the participants had agreed to their presence – and talks about the cold that we can all feel quite often.
It is preposterous to try and explain here that Climate Change includes extremes (hence it is not just a question of Global Warming, which is confirmed and clear to all, except the very skeptical and hundreds of millions of conspiracy theories enthusiasts, which is not the case of our philosopher, albeit a foolish joker would insist that his faith, belief in god is just the sympathy for yet another conspiracy, only one that is two thousand years old in this situation) and we can assume that Andrei Plesu is relying on God in this matter.
The dialogue is inspiring, there is a great joy in hearing (and eventually watching, the recordings might have been placed on the web by the State Television) two fabulous spirits communicate, debate, not always in perfect agreement, the themes of Love, Special Encounters, Hope, Pride – incidentally, Hope and Positivity are two of ten elements – the others are awe, interest, Amusement (and Andrei Plesu is incredibly jocular at times) inspiration (they are both inspiring), serenity, Joy, Gratitude and Love – of Positivity as identified by the ultimate authority on it, Barbara Fredrickson http://realini.blogspot.com/2015/05/p...
Andrei Plesu manifests a modesty that is endearing and does not dent the gravitas, seriousness, authority with which he talks about the various subjects, though he declines to offer a definitive solution (in the tradition of Socrates) and states that he will not offer enlightenment, solutions to the subject of love and in quite a few other fields…on Love, he explains from the start of the dialogue that he is reserved, and reminds the under signed of Thomas Mann http://realini.blogspot.com/2021/09/t... who had said that we keep hearing people talk of love and how great their feeling is, there are no words to describe it, when on the contrary, Love exists only in art, literature, where the characters keep the same emotion to the end, unlike the humans that lament and lose interest – there is a psychological phenomenon called The Honeymoon Effect, also The Coolidge Effect that show what studies reveal about human love…
Gabriel Liiceanu talks about five years, as the time frame which seems to mark the end of ‘love’, or some relationships that are given the name, whereas studies point to a two years limit which for a large number of people would be the point where they tend to show a bigger interest in the ‘new’ than in the established, present partner…Andrei Plesu tells the story (and the tales are the spice, the ‘pleasure added’ factor that distinguishes the luminary from dry philosophers that are unable to communicate to the public their complicated thoughts, mea culpa for the logorrhea) of his asking Constantin Noica (another demigod of local thought and master for both interlocutors) about advice for love
Constantin Noica said something like ‘choose the woman who declares she will do everything for your future’ and Andrei Plesu concludes (now, he was not sure at the time, decades ago) that Noica had been wrong on this subject, since someone can state that, but without meaning it…he mentions the couples that are hospitalized together and they hate each other so much that they spit at one another…in another instance, we hear the ‘histoire’ of the Peasant who talks to a master Zen about the Zen secret (well, something like that) and he is sent back to feed animals, say goodbye to wife, talk to children again, and again and then he is told this is Zen -what you have done, take care of all your duties and do not forget the Question
In another ‘pilda’, that is attributed to the Christian tradition (only yours truly had heard it with Buddhist protagonists) Monks travel from one monastery to another and they meet with one woman who is unable to cross a river, and she is helped by one monk and then later one other says this was a grave sin, you took the girl in your arms and the ‘sinful’ one replies ‘I took her across and left her there, but you still have her with you’…ascetic does not mean blind it is a long analysis…and we are told that it is interesting how the parables work, apparently simple bible stories have deeper, hidden meanings…
Another story that this listener has liked (it comes to mind that he is into stories and did not have the sophistication, stature to get the complicated arguments, but apparently, he is reduced to hear with mouth opened, the various lullabies) is the one with the rabbi and the treasure, who is told to dig under a bridge, where a guardian comes to ask what is he doing, then the latter mentions that he had had a dream and was told about the treasure, but he does not go about looking for it and then the rabbi follows the clues from the guardian’s dream and…he finds it, the dream within the dream offers the answer…Inception?
Gabriel Liiceanu has his moment of humor (though he is almost always grave and troubled by the state of the world, his country) when he mentions Romeo and Juliet and the fact that he has not seduced her with his ‘pectorals’, but with the word, the mind and the beautiful words (well, Shakespeare’s unless one is buying into conspiracy theories, one of the books I have read recently mentions Queen Elizabeth I as a possible author of the works of the greatest writer of all time, but that is just a joke)
Andrei Plesu may be wrong on the issue of happiness, for he argues that Concentrating on happiness is sure to bring about the opposite effect, and though it sounds and could well be common sense and true, the under signed had been reading for a few years (but more or less stopped about four years ago) positive psychology and it does seem that there are rules that we could, should apply, even Concentrating on Happiness, with rituals that we need to apply every day (exercise the body and mind) use change, gratitude (there is also a ‘Count your blessings exercise), Imagine the Best Possible Future…the list is long and you can find some enlightenment by looking for Tal Ben-Shahar, Sonja Lyubomirsky, Martin Seligman, Ed Diener on the internet and in libraries…
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