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TEENAGE MISFITS AND ADOLESCENT RABBLE-ROUSING TAKE CENTER STAGE IN THIS DARK COMING-OF-AGE TALE

Big Kids is simultaneously Michael DeForge's most straightforward narrative and his most complex work to date. It follows a troubled teenage boy through the transformative years of high school as he redefines his friends, his interests, and his life path. When the boy's uncle, a police officer, gets kicked out of the family's basement apartment and transferred to the countryside, April moves in. She's a college student, mysterious and cool, and she quickly takes a shine to the boy.

The boy's own interests quickly fade away: he stops engaging in casual sex, taking drugs, and testing the limits of socially acceptable (and legal) behavior. Instead, he hangs out with April and her friends, a bunch of highly evolved big kids who spend their days at the campus swimming pool. And slowly, the boy begins to change, too.

Eerie and perfectly paced, DeForge's Big Kids muses on the complicated, and often contradictory, feelings people struggle with during adolescence, the choices we make to fit in, and the ways we survive times of change. Like Ant Colony and First Year Healthy, Big Kids is a testimony to the harshness and beauty of being alive.

96 pages, Hardcover

First published February 23, 2016

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Michael DeForge

69 books420 followers
Michael DeForge lives in Toronto, Ontario. His comics and illustrations have been featured in Jacobin, The New York Times, Bloomberg, The Believer, The Walrus and Maisonneuve Magazine. He worked as a designer on Adventure Time for six seasons. His published books include Very Casual, A Body Beneath, Ant Colony, First Year Healthy, Dressing, Big Kids, Sticks Angelica, Folk Hero and A Western World.

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Profile Image for Dave Schaafsma.
Author 6 books32.1k followers
May 15, 2016
Wow, art comics and alt comics readers, this is the second full length (okay, 96 pages) graphic novel from Michael DeForge, the experimental, surrealistic artist who has done several collections of shorts until now. This one is a kind of comics coming-of-age story, initially very conventional for DeForge, feeling very memoirish, and very harsh and brutal. And then everything/everyone turns into trees and twigs. Yes, you heard that right. The boy in the story has been regularly bullied, beaten up, has been engaging in casual sex with another boy, gets beaten up by his live-in uncle, uncle is kicked out, so a college-age girl (a Big Kid!) moves in, and the kid begins to hang our with her and her Big Kid friends at a pool. He grows up, and we are in this plant/tree world now. A shift happens. What does it mean? It's not clear, but at one point the implication is, we can look back on a particular moment in which everything changed, when he begins to sort of grow up.

A story associating growth with trees, okay, not original, but our assumptions about trees as better than twigs, well DeForge doesn't go there, he can't decide. Then our narrator reflects on various people: Paul McCartney is a tree; John a twig. Bill Murray? Twig. John Candy? Tree. The surreal way he does the trees/twigs idea is anything but cliched, really. The drawing is bizarre and fresh and the colors are psychedelic and inviting. is "growing up" better for everyone? It's not clear.

At one point you are thinking this is a psychedelic/drug experience, too, since all the foliage is surrealistic, but DeForge has his kid narrator say no, he didn't take drugs. The trees and twigs thing just happens. Ordinarily you'd say oh! It's a metaphor for growing up, but I have to say I am not sure it is, or if it is, it is just not that easy to make a correspondence.

If you think of school-based YA as a kind of protected sphere, with limited bad language and limited descriptions of disturbing things like assault, there are some texts that almost deliberately operate outside that sphere, not made for school use, let's say, and this could be one (but I am going to try this out in a class this summer!). The stuff that happens to the kid is realistic, violent at times, disturbing, sort of what might be described as social horror.

In the typical hopeful arc of YA, kids break on through to the other side, they grow, they heal. So this happens here, in a way, "development" happens, he somehow "gets through" terrible bullying and stupid "relationship mistakes," and so on. But this one doesn't have some Dickensian ending, it just ends, as a friendship ends, with some poetic images and thoughts. I thought it was subtle and strange and power and original as hell.

Here is an actual interview with DeForge, that is cool and insightful and interesting.

http://www.thefader.com/2016/02/29/mi...

In the process of reading this book I was reminded that DeForge was for some time a philosophy major. This nudged me to make a connection between his thoughtful, weird work, and the kind of similar, quirky thoughtful work of Anders Nilsen (Big Questions, Monologues for Calculating the Density of Black Holes). Nilsen's stuff is sketchier, deliberately spare, mostly black and white, and "primitive," while DeForge is precise and colorful, but there's a link there between them. They have a complicated relationship with narrative as a means for comfortably explain gin reality/everyday life.

Not everyone will love this stuff, it can for some be off-putting, but for me it is one of the best comics of the year.
Profile Image for Jan Philipzig.
Author 1 book310 followers
July 9, 2016
By the standards of Michael DeForge, Big Kids is a relatively straightforward story. Of course, it wouldn’t be by DeForge if it wasn’t still quite a bit on the surreal, trippy, psychedelic side. “Straightforward” in this case merely means that the story’s topic can be readily identified: Big Kids is a coming-of-age story, no doubt about it. Centered around the themes of sexual identity, family violence and high-school bullying (and drug use?), it’s harsh, poetic and haunting. There is only one real complaint I have: the book's format is way too small, to the point that the font can be difficult to decipher. If you’re sharp-eyed enough and a fan of alternative comics, though, you should check it out anyway!
Profile Image for Bill Hsu.
991 reviews221 followers
April 22, 2021
A wonderfully odd little book, about a queer teen navigating high school and home life. As with DeForge's other work that I've read, his trademark abstract surrealist touches don't always work, but are fascinating when they do.
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Author 35 books439 followers
April 26, 2016
This book blew my mind, reminding me of why I fell in love with DeForge's work in the first place. So inventive, beautiful, sad, funny and original. I can't recommend this enough.
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March 27, 2023
this work is only possible in comics. very good.
Profile Image for Nathan.
Author 1 book5 followers
February 11, 2021
"Kids taking turns spitting in my mouth"

Een veelbeschreven thema in een surreëel jasje, snelle lees, leuke kleurtjes en een psychedelische toets: de ingrediënten voor een uiterst interessant beeldverhaaltje.

Score: genieten
Ps: 1312 𝓕𝓾𝓬𝓴 𝓽𝓱𝓮 𝓹𝓸𝓵𝓲𝓬𝓮
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2,549 reviews914 followers
December 21, 2022
Another weird story from DeForge - this one has a strong queer element to it, which elevated it slightly for me over the other works of his I've read.
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1,472 reviews498 followers
April 7, 2016
Here's what the summary says:
Big Kids is simultaneously Michael DeForge's most straightforward narrative and his most complex work to date. It follows a troubled teenage boy through the transformative years of high school as he redefines his friends, his interests, and his life path. When the boy's uncle, a police officer, gets kicked out of the family's basement apartment and transferred to the countryside, April moves in. She's a college student, mysterious and cool, and she quickly takes a shine to the boy.
The boy's own interests quickly fade away: he stops engaging in casual sex, taking drugs, and testing the limits of socially acceptable (and legal) behavior. Instead, he hangs out with April and her friends, a bunch of highly evolved big kids who spend their days at the campus swimming pool. And slowly, the boy begins to change, too.
Eerie and perfectly paced, DeForge's Big Kids muses on the complicated, and often contradictory, feelings people struggle with during adolescence, the choices we make to fit in, and the ways we survive times of change. Like Ant Colony and First Year Healthy, Big Kids is a testimony to the harshness and beauty of being alive.


That's not at all what I got outta this.
This was a sad read for me, lonely, about an apathetic boy, picked-on by his peers and victim of sleep paralysis, who is secretly seeing his icky boyfriend and then grows up after they break up. As a newly-aware and maybe even empathetic being, or a tree, as grown-up, empathetic beings become in this world, he's even more alone than before.
He's got his mom and their renter, April, who are also trees. In addition, he attracts his icky ex-boyfriend's new boyfriend, Tyson, another recently-become tree. But he loses them all and is a tree alone. He suffers all the feels and doesn't know what to do about it.

Man, this was bleak and I felt weighed-down after reading it.
The art is weird and wiggly, almost cute but closer to off-putting, as is DeForge's style.
And yet, I liked it. I couldn't relate but it reminded me of someone to whom I can relate and that was bridge enough for me.
Profile Image for Peacegal.
11.7k reviews102 followers
February 9, 2018
Here's a story to wrap your head around. A young man is living an ordinary life, until one day he matures into a "tree," and he is on a higher plane of existence and can suddenly see an entirely new bizarre world populated by "trees" and "twigs."

I put these words into quotation marks because the alien-like trees and bright yellow twigs look nothing like anything found in nature.

Like the trees and twigs themselves, this story works on multiple planes. It could be a metaphor about maturity and becoming your own person, or it could be just a bunch of weirdness.
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988 reviews135 followers
November 22, 2022
Incredibly brief compared to the other two Deforge books I've read so far. Sort of a coming-of-age story for a high school boy as he navigates the loss of his first unofficial "boyfriend." Maturity or transformation is represented as humans suddenly becoming trees or realizing they are trees; subsequently, the entire world is related to from this "tree perspective." A kind of emotional and visual symbiosis ensues that I found strangely immersive/welcoming. DeForge twists and warps the lens through which we see ourselves resulting in clarity through distortion.

Also: I liked the pretty colors.
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1,489 reviews39 followers
July 8, 2016
I think we all have gone through a time in our life where we suddenly feel like we are on a different plane of existence than we previously inhabited. This might happen more than once as we mature, suddenly friends who were once the center of our world seem distant, former interests are no longer exciting, our goals change and our perception of the world morphs. In Big Kids DeForge shows us that world from the eyes of a teenage boy. After a break-up he finds himself transformed, into a ‘tree.’ Everything looks different and the things that he used to focus on, obsess over, no longer hold any sway. Some people, including his ex-boyfriend, are twigs, they aren’t able to perceive the greater world the way trees do, they remain in a more fixed, simple reality.

The whole graphic novel, from the story, dialogue and action, to the style and art throughout really resonated with me. The main character tried and failed to fit in with his peers even at the beginning of the story (when he was a ‘twig’), but once he transforms into a tree he’s even more alienated from his peers. One of the most interesting aspects to me was when Tyson, who also recently became a twig, latches onto him, wanting to share in a communal understanding of their recent transformation, but he is already beyond that, though they are both trees he doesn’t want or need Tyson’s reassurance or company and ends up breaking Tyson down, until he is a twig again, and Tyson doesn’t even seem to realize what is happening. I was also fascinated by his parents, his dad was still a twig and his mom a tree, she obviously unhappy with the situation. At the end, somehow, she’d regressed back to twig status as well.

Sometimes I feel like a twig, sometimes I feel like a tree, but universally I feel like whomever I’m trying to communicate with is on the other side of the equation.
Profile Image for Jesús.
378 reviews28 followers
May 5, 2019
Much like his recent Brat, Michael DeForge’s Big Kids dresses up as a countercultural comic, but is in fact a story dedicated to privilege and elitist cultural gatekeeping.

In Big Kids, when a select few people reach a certain point in their lives, an epiphany strikes. When it does, those select people become “trees” and a new plane of existence and experience opens up to them. While it seems to be an epiphany that often strikes people as they grow up, many (or most) never experience it. It’s something like a mystery religion/cult (Gnosticism, etc.) in that becoming a tree gives only the elect a privileged insight.

Big Kids expresses the adolescent fantasy that one has a secret and innate superiority over one’s peers. It’s a fantasy that closely resembles the rhetoric of far-right groups like InCel and its “red pill/blue pill” metaphor, or the far-right’s appropriation of John Carpenter’s They Live as a meme-rich narrative about how only a few can see the truth behind the veil of reality while the gullible “sheeple” go about their daily, ignorant business. I’m not saying that DeForge is secretly a propagandist for the far-right or anything, but his plots work according to the same basic assumptions of privileged insight and knowledge.

After the last DeForge book I read, I’d sworn him off for very similar reasons. But, man, his art is so gorgeous that I couldn’t help myself from trying another of his books. I can now see that there is a distinct pattern across all of his work, and it isn’t just that his work rubs me the wrong way. It actively wants to exclude me. It wants me to feel FOMO. It participates actively in cultural and epistemological gatekeeping. It rationalizes and defends privilege. Most unforgivably, it’s just plain mean spirited.
Profile Image for Tony Vacation.
423 reviews342 followers
April 22, 2016
Deforge's latest tackles a theme familiar in his shorter work: being teenage and gay. That makes it sound triter than I intend. DeForge makes use of his surreal, acid-tinged style to relate a story about the limits of self-awareness. In the world of this little comic such a state is obtained when you realize that everyone who is either a self-aware tree (tall, angular, noodle-like beings) or a repressed twig (stumpy, limbless things), the two co-existing in dramatically different perceptions of the reality around them. But self-awareness does not make a person better than their own preoccupations with petty jealousies, empty sex or the endless threat of self-doubt. A quick and trippy take on the indie coming-of-age story. DeForge is always worth the read.
Profile Image for Liz Yerby.
Author 3 books19 followers
June 25, 2016
This book is one narrative which I think is why I enjoy it so much out of what I've read by deforge so far. It covers young sexuality, gay stuff, awkward teenage feelings well while also getting into his surreal yet beautiful body horror type stuff and is just a real good strong work as a result.
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28 reviews4 followers
September 23, 2016
This was far and away the best graphic novel I've read this year. The message is strong, but not overstated. Smart, but not inaccessible. Emotional, but not sentimental. In terms of art style, it's a little bit eerie, but unique and interesting and adds a powerful, textually inexpressible effect to the overall story, which I consider ideal for the graphic novel. The art is there to express what would be difficult in words, and vice versa; text serves primarily to narrate, to make dialogue, and to propel the story in ways that drawings alone do less effectively. Basically, Big Kids struck a perfect balance. I'd consider the book itself a litmus test for whether the reader is a tree, a twig, or a tentative tree, still twig-like and wavering on the edge.
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1,958 reviews103 followers
February 21, 2018
This is Michael DeForge, coming through. Delivering. A coherent illustration of perspective-bending change, violent and desire-laden social relationships, and characteristically insular characters finding their ways in an unevenly charted world. Individually, panels are not as stunning as his shorter works rise to, but the satisfaction of the sustained delivery is compelling and genuinely moving. Very much recommended: find it at your library!
Profile Image for Shannon McLeod.
Author 4 books23 followers
April 28, 2021
This is my first Michael DeForge book, and I had no idea what to expect. I loved it so much. The surrealism surprised and delighted me. The aesthetics fit so well with the narrative, highlighting the strangeness in aspects of life we deem simple or take for granted on the surface. I have my own interpretation of what it means to be a "tree," and I'm torn between seeking out interviews with DeForge to see if he addresses this or just hanging tight to what this book means to me right now.
Profile Image for Mark Young.
Author 5 books66 followers
December 10, 2016
Totally weird and amazing. Altered perceptions a la Kafka and coming of age stuff a la the best of them. Saying a character sees the world differently is one thing; showing us their view is a mind bender. Awesome artwork and a very deeply felt narrative showing how it feels to be different.
Profile Image for Laura.
19 reviews
June 4, 2022
just witnessed sentient trees having sex (◑́_◑᷅ )
weird and trippy
Profile Image for Marie.
17 reviews
September 30, 2024
J’ai adoré cette BD. 10 étoiles. Autant l’histoire que les images sont incroyables!
16 reviews3 followers
August 30, 2020
A powerful fable about growing up. The formal playfulness DeForge is known for really brings Big Kids to life. It's the kind of story that wouldn't work in anyone else's voice.

Also, I wish there were more weird, short-form OGNs like this easily accessible. The vast majority I discover only because of indie conventions, but it's such a great format to play around in.
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303 reviews67 followers
March 4, 2019
i liked this + finished it in one sitting. the becoming a tree thing was v interesting, albeit a little vague (i did find myself wanting to know more about a lot but it was great as it was too). i thought it was a puberty thing until it mentioned how many adults were still 'twigs' as well as how differently the characters came about the transition. is it a part of becoming ~enlightened~?

i felt a kind of anxiety reading it, i think because picturing my reality turning into something so trippy/surreal was upsetting to a certain part of my brain? would love to read again n take in the illustrations more - was v into the art + color palette, i was just really absorbed in the story the first time around.

first i've read of deforge and i'm eager for more. def recommend !!
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Author 120 books58 followers
April 1, 2021
There's a Tex Avery cartoon where the main character, Big Heel-Watha, after performing some impossible task (which escapes me for the moment) breaks the fourth wall and addresses the audience with, "In a cartoon you can do anything." I feel this equally applies to graphic novels.

"Big Kids" is a coming of age story where possibilities of future personalities literally branch out from the characters as they "tree". The metaphor works, isn't heavy handed, and affords DeForge the opportunity for his trademark surrealistic imagery. I tend to race through graphic novels and this was no exception. It can be comfortably read in thirty minutes. However as the book is about CD-sized and the text is tiny, I had to read this with a strong light directed on the page and the book about an inch from my face. It was worth it.
Profile Image for Laura.
565 reviews32 followers
October 7, 2020
This was really short sweet and sad. Aside from any colony which is really long, the other Michael deforge I have read is in anthology format, so i really liked having a short story live by itself. It was much less bizarre than some of his other stories but had similar body wiggliness, loneliness, kids getting beat up, etc. really beautiful as usual w a very abrupt ending. I loved that the whole thing was in color.
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Author 4 books22 followers
March 24, 2020
As struck as I am by Deforge's visuals, it's the slow build of his lyrical writing that sticks with me. There is a musicality that rings out due to the tempered pacing of the prose, adding a third dimension to Deforge's books.
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9 reviews
February 4, 2021
Como un árbol que sabe su condición subterránea, oculta, inconsciente, esta novela gráfica crece desde el interior. Si hay tal cosa como una novela gráfica radicalmente expresionista (y la raíz no es gratuita en una historia sobre seres que devienen árbol), quizás lo más parecido sea este trabajo de DeForge.
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Author 17 books143 followers
January 15, 2022
What a strange and beautiful little book. I feel like it ends a bit abruptly, but I'm a big fan of the strange, unutterable mood at the core of this book. Looking forward to reading more of DeForge's work.
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