Innocent, Vol. 2

イノサン [Innocent] #2

by Shin'ichi Sakamoto

Nel XVIII secolo la Rivoluzione Francese divenne il punto di partenza della società moderna. Charles-Henri Sanson fu un altro dei protagonisti che visse tra le sue ombre: era infatti il quarto capofamiglia del casato Sanson che svolgeva il lavoro di boia a Parigi. Si alza il sipario sull'epopea storica che ritrae l'"innocenza" con cui affrontò nobilmente il suo destino crudele!

Genres: Manga, Historical Fiction, Historical, Comics, Horror, Fiction, Seinen

192 pages, Paperback

First published September 19, 2013

About the author

Sakamoto Shin'ichi (坂本眞一) is a Japanese mangaka.
He is mostly famous for his series Innocent and Innocent Rouge.
He is currently working on #DRCL midnight children based on the classic by Bram Stoker.

Reviews

[daph pink ♡ · Rating 4 out of 5]

Anyone who knows me well is aware of my reasons for staying. I thought the beautiful anatomy scenes were really great. And Marie, the sister, who is so adorable, is someone I am looking forward to.

[juls ˚⊹♡ · Rating 4 out of 5]

₊⊹♡ 4 stars ⋆˙⟡

‘’With my generation, I will end this cursed family line. And one day, I will create a world without executions— that is my vow to you ..!’’

i love the mc sm 🙏

[Ostrava · Rating 2 out of 5]

Decent enough to make for an entertaining reading, but the writing is still very amateurish. For example, a better writer would have known how to communicate Charles' change in a less jarring way.

But I find the premise interesting enough to wish to continue with the story. Let's see where it goes...

[hyacinthuss · Rating 5 out of 5]

still beautiful still dark af

[Reza Qalandari · Rating 5 out of 5]

قلبم درد گرفت...

[Monsour · Rating 4 out of 5]

This volume is focus on the early days of Chevalier Charles-Henri Sanson de Longval as france royal executioner.



and the concept of the social cause/society of the old regime.


France back then were divided into three estates:

First Estate
High-ranking members of the Church aka. Clergy(higher or lower)
Privileged classes

Second Estate
Nobility: like the nobility of the sword(the Sanson's are in this category) or nobility of the robes. There mostly government official or soldiers with ranks.
Monarch.

Third Estate
Everyone else - from peasants in the countryside/cities, wealthy or non-wealthy merchants, blacksmits, whores, labourers, etc.(all of them are unprivileged)

[꒰ sonia ꒱ · Rating 4 out of 5]

і як дивитися в очі людям які тобі довіряють але яких ти маєш вбити

[Loay Mohammed · Rating 4 out of 5]

Volume 2 Continues With All The Advantages in Volume One and Goes Deep into building it characters and introducing supporting ones, the art work is bloody and describes what our protagonist is facing but there are still some issues with some panels I can’t get anything out of them or sometimes the art work quality drops by a little bit especially with the edges drawing I don’t know if it’s an issue with the source I’m reading from or is it from the original material

[Paola (Minpao) · Rating 4 out of 5]

Que cruel y denso todo, dios, en verdad me ha dejado en shook

[isa · Rating 4 out of 5]

sinto que esse mangá tem tudo que um leitor quer encontrar
tem bons personagens
tem um desenvolvimento de personagem tremendo, inclusive dos secundários
tem uma trama principal que se entrelaça com tramas paralelas
a arte é simplesmente linda
mas estou guardando o 5 estrelas porque sinto que os próximos tomos podem me surpreender

[Lepicentrecult · Rating 4 out of 5]

Toujours autant passionnant. Ce tome est beaucoup plus explicite. Attention il y a du contenu pour adulte plusieurs fois. Ce tome est plus profond, plus sombre. On découvre un peu plus sur cette famille et les dynamiques qui s’en dégage. Nous avons un Charles Henri qui exècre les exécution. Mais qui doit vite reprendre la successiion de son père.

[nica · Rating 4 out of 5]

sincera, i disegni sono così sublimi che mi hanno messo ansia tanto da aver interrotto la lettura.
Ho deciso di riprenderla proprio perché la trama è molto bella e sono molto curiosa di sapere come si evolverà.
Volume fantastico, macabro e crudo in pieno mio genere.

[Rubén Moragues · Rating 5 out of 5]

[5]

Este ha sido espectacular. Las metáforas visuales, el ritmo y el dibujo brutal de Sakamoto componen una obra maestra.

[nicole · Rating 4 out of 5]

130 pages dedicated to a guy getting drawn and quartered shinchi sakamoto you are CRAZYYY

[Casper Paaske · Rating 3 out of 5]

This is actually the closest this series ever gets to making a comprehensible narrative.

[Nastas'ja Filippovna]

Che volume magnifico ho amato i disegni e alcuni panel come quelli all'inizio durante la decapitazione fallimentare

[Anne · Rating 5 out of 5]

This is good, I just wish I checked the tw first lol

[ㅤmelli ꧔ · Rating 3 out of 5]

i’m loving this series so far but this was a little weaker than the first volume.

[Chelsea · Rating 4 out of 5]

4⭐

[LopaShoqjaIme · Rating 3 out of 5]

AAAA JO I FUTI GISHTIN TE BYÇA AAAA JO

[Angie Ospino · Rating 5 out of 5]

Simplemente bello y depresivo.

[Araceli.libros · Rating 3 out of 5]

El arte sigue siendo espectacular, pero no pude dejar de notar ciertas repeticiones en la trama. Si ya empezamos así con los primeros tomos… Espero que esta tendencia cambie en el futuro.
Además, el cambio de actitud del protagonista respecto a su destino no está bien explicado, no tiene mucho sentido para mí.
Otra cosa es que parece que el mangaka quiere tentar a sus lectores con la promesa de más y más explícitas torturas… medio fucked up.

[dania♡ · Rating 4 out of 5]

Review en ESPAÑOL
Empiezo a notar la diferencia en Charles, y puedo apreciar mejor los otros aspectos de su personalidad.
Respecto a la historia: Cautiva. Es lo que me hizo seguir leyendo.
Respecto al arte: Hermoso. Es un poco impresionante al principio, hasta chocante, pero luego de que me acostumbré al realismo llegué a amarlo.

Review in ENGLISH
I begin to notice the difference in Charles, and I can better appreciate the other aspects of his personality.
Regarding the story: Captive. It's what kept me reading.
Regarding art: Beautiful. It's a bit impressive at first, even shocking, but after I got used to realism I came to love it.

[MontseMH · Rating 4 out of 5]

Una vez situada en las circunstancias de la historia, continua mi interés y fascinación por esta historia y su forma de narrarla, porque a pesar de lo escabroso del asunto, el autor no toma la vía gore (aunque si emocionalmente impactante, porque Charles parece tener un punto Jessica Fletcher... personaje que se encuentra y le cae bien, personaje que tiene que dar matarile....y claro, así uno se trauma rápido), bueno.... el caso es que el autor toma la vía de la metáfora para ilustrar un corte de cuello o un desangramiento.

La historia avanza y se nos van dado detalle del futuro de un personaje secundario, que puesto en paralelismo con el protagonista sus diferencias y similitudes resultan muy interesantes.

[selden · Rating 3 out of 5]

has potential, but it’s already starting to feel a little predictable… i hope it switches it up and like this doesn’t keep happening cause

SPOILERS BELOW!!!

the second charles starting helping this man i’m like yup he’s gonna have to execute him… and guess what’s happening now… he has to execute him. it’s only the 2nd time this is happening so there’s a chance this pattern will stop, but idk with that little nun girl too it seems like it’s gonna keep happening. hopefully when marie grows up and she becomes a central character it’ll get now interesting. i’m gonna hold out for that

edit: i don’t think marie becomes a MC until the sequel🫤wtv i will persist

[G · Rating 4 out of 5]

This volume was steal pushing with the dark tone. It was so graphic and triggering. A lot of heavy topics were brought up and mentioned. Our main character is growing. He’s pushing through his duties even though he hates it. The class system and it’s flaw are introduced to Charles-Henri and how messed up the nobles are to the lower class. He realizes he’s not the only one with problems

[daniela · Rating 4 out of 5]

Loving this protagonist, continues to disturb and amaze.

[Peachy · Rating 4 out of 5]

The tension and pressure in Pomegranate (ch 09), along with those of the previous chapter, were staggering. I felt so sorry for Jean de Chartrois. The creativity of the symbolism and details in the imagery really highlighted how visceral and brutal this scene was.

I liked the depiction of the audience's hypocrisy in I am Innocent (ch 10). While I agree with them that executions should be as swift, painless, and dignified as possible; they really had the audacity to feel pity for Jean de Chartrois and scorn for Charles-Henri when they were the ones making a spectacle of the execution.

I personally find Charles-Henri quite annoying, but he is a tragic character. I do not think of him as a devil yet, but it would be highly inappropriate to call him innocent. He was also a victim of his fate and the cruel crown.

I did not expect the turn of events in Fastidious Family Business (ch 11). For all my ramblings about how Jean-Baptiste seemed at ease with letting Charles-Henri make his own decisions despite his reservations, I am now in awe of how he took responsibility for Jean de Chartrois's messy execution. He literally bloodied his own hands for that. I must say that I admired his gravitas when he stepped onto the gallows.

The juxtaposition of Jean's butchered head tucked into his arms and the grave criminals was heartbreaking and highlighted how unreasonable the justice system at the time was.

I really liked Family Precepts of Fresh Blood (ch 12) because of the elements of anatomy, medicine and its history. It really made for an interesting duality: life and death. There was not a lot that happened in this chapter but it further developed some of the members within the Sanson family including one of Charles-Henri's younger brothers- an eager little thing.

I have not spoken of Anne-Marthe these past chapters but I do like her character very much. As the matriarch, she was doing what she could to uphold their family's practice and reputation. I like her haughty demeanor and quick temper especially in contrast with her son's composure and outward impassiveness.

I love the page wherein Charles-Henri overheard his father saying that discarding the old and the broken is a must to make way for the fresh and the new and preserve the whole.

Father and Son on the Path of Thorns (ch 13) must have been very traumatizing for Charles-Henri.

Charles-Henri's resolve was strengthened by My Battle with Destiny (ch 14). He finally accepted his fate as the future head of the Sanson family and Monsieur de Paris, and decided that he wanted to change the status quo from his position.

The "M"s of Two Houses (ch 15) was such a great chapter! My interest in Marie-Joseph grows with each of her appearance. Her morbid fascination juxtaposed with Marie Antoinette's birth was both ghastly and lovely.

I really loved the panel with the stars.

Girl that Inherited the "Blood" of Natural Talent (ch 16) was as cute as an executioner bonding with his little sister who was morbidly fascinated with the macabre can be. I cannot figure out if it was Charles or Jean-Baptiste whom Marie resented, nor if it was Jean or Marie that Charles said was hated by the household alongside himself.

Immorality's Mercy (ch 17) was so fucking strange to me. I can believe that Charles was a kind person at his very core. But it felt so contrived how he was suddenly being painted as merciful for killing criminals as quickly and painlessly as he can when all his previous executions were slow and terrible deaths due to his incompetence...

I wonder who chose the method of execution...

Things felt like they were picking up in The "Have Not's" Lamentation (ch 18) due to the governance of France and power dynamics within the Sanson family being challenged. Quite frankly, this was also the first time that I've appreciated Charles-Henri.

I am already dreading the moment that Monsieur Damiens will curse the moment he touched Charles.

It broke my heart to witness Monsieur Damien realizing he had nothing left in Spiral of Life and Death (ch 19), and I fear for what he will come back to when they return to the mansion. While Charles's struggles were valid, I appreciate that he was humbled by what he saw outside the comforts (and terrors) of his home. It was so sad how even things so innate to being a human, such as grieving and being sympathetic or compassionate, were luxuries.

The Great Crime of "Lèse-Majesté" (ch 20) was almost exposition-heavy, which is not a bad thing at all. I liked the timing and composition of the panels here. I loved the use of chiaroscuro!

[Chivitouille · Rating 5 out of 5]

Vaya manera de iniciar este tomo, a pesar de saber que lo que seguía era el desenlace del primer encargo que le encomiendan a Charles, aunque algo lógico por lo que implicaba la situación aún así no me lo esperaba. Sin duda resulta un impacto muy grande para el pobre y siendo como es y al no estar del todo preparado; tanto para asumir el papel de verdugo como el hecho de quién es el reo, todo se vuelve un desastre.
Abatido después de esta experiencia y a pesar de que su abuela y su padre siguen obligándolo a tomar parte en las enseñanzas para desempeñar un papel que este a la altura del nombre de la familia, para él todo resulta difícil y no puede afrontar la situación con firmeza.
Ante esto se pone a cavilar sobre lo que podría hacer, puesto que él no se ve desempeñando un papel de esta índole y menos siendo como es. Verlo en esta situación te hace darte cuenta de su manera de pensar y la solución a la que llega solo reafirma el hecho de que es una persona con un enorme corazón, bueno, amable y con una gran inocencia, lo que te hace desear que todo le vaya bien, sin embargo su vida no es fácil.

Una vez teniendo la decisión sobre lo que quiere hacer de ahora en adelante, lo que necesita hacer ahora es comunicárselo a su padre, pero las circunstancias no podían ser de lo peor, una vez más el pobre se ve involucrado en una situación que tanto a él como a mí nos ha dejado sin palabras.
Enterarse de la manera de pensar de su padre tanto en lo que respecta a que él sea el sucesor, como lo que tiene planeado hacer, lo que representan sus hijos y lo desesperado que está porque se conserve el buen nombre de los Sanson, resulta ser todo un shock y lo peor es que su padre se da cuenta de su presencia y actúa con más saña, lo que convierte toda esta situación en algo desagradable de presenciar.
Sin embargo a raíz de esto Charles toma una nueva resolución, lo que marcará una pauta importante de ahora en adelante. Empieza a desempeñar el papel de verdugo sustituto lo mejor posible, de una manera impecable pero siempre agregándole su personalidad y su sello particular.

Me encanta mucho cada vez que hace acto de presencia con esas ropas tan pintorescas de la época y adoro mucho que tenga el cabello largo, confiriéndole un toque de dramatismo y elegancia.
Sin duda el detalle en el dibujo provoca que sea todo un gozo cada vez que aparece de esta manera.

En este tomo tenemos la oportunidad de conocer a dos de sus hermanos quienes resultan ser muy particulares, siendo algo opuestos a él, aunque su hermanita es la que destaca mucho más en este aspecto. Después de ver la interacción que tiene con ella algunas teorías se me han ocurrido y posiblemente no sean tan descabelladas pero todavía es muy pronto para sacar conclusiones anticipadas. Lo que sí es claro es que ellos dos se entienden muy bien.

De igual manera, somos partícipes de uno de los trabajos que tiene que realizar Charles y a pesar de lo cruel que podría llegar a ser para el culpable, sirve de ejemplo para demostrar el tipo de persona en la que se ha convertido él y la manera en como enfrenta su papel de verdugo.
A la par de esto tendremos la participación de un personaje inesperado que jugará un papel importante en esta etapa, que de manera indirecta le mostrará la situación que se está viviendo en los alrededores de la ciudad, siendo más adelante el protagonista de un evento imprevisto.

Hay un momento en esta interacción que me encanta por su cara de sorpresa ante lo inesperado que se va tornando la situación..ha sido algo curioso de presenciar. Otros detalles suceden que muy seguramente tendrán una repercusión en el desarrollo de la historia pero prefiero omitirlas para no arruinarlos.

El final, me dejó en shock, puesto que a pesar de que la abuela se sienta conmovida y hasta realizada, lo que le tocará enfrentar a Charles será algo intenso y aterrador.
Sin duda dejando unas enormes ganas de leer el siguiente tomo.

[47Time · Rating 4 out of 5]

The revolution is coming. The citizens can feel it in the air. Charles too is changing, apparently embracing his heritage, but hoping to usher in a time when executions are a thing of the past. He is more mature this time around. He tries to help people, while also excelling at his job.

I understand that cutting off a man's head is difficult, but dedicating a whole chapter to the swing of a sword - or multiple swings - is a bit much. Sure, it's emotional to kill your lover, but it's too much drawn-out and dramatic for me. Executions were a means of entertainment in those days, but nobody Charles' botched and bloody mess. The spectators turn into a mob and demand Charles' life until his father calms their spirits using the respect the crowd still has for him. Charles later becomes the de facto Monsieur de Paris - its executioner - though oficially he is only a representative. His skills develop accordingly.

After the many autopsies his family carries out on the deceased, Charles has considerable medical skills. He helps a father and child he meets in church. The child has only days to live because of malnutrition and infection, but the father is determined to pay for Charles' effort in making the child's last days confortable. Charles feels attracted to the man as they return to his home to sell off whatever remains of value. They find the house sacked and in ruins. In anger and desperation, the man leaves Charles behind. Charles later learns that the man attacked the king himself and he was promptly sentenced to be executed. Again Charles must execute a man dear to him.