what frustrates me most is how Shirotani's character is interesting; his self esteem is just horrible( how he constantly is thinking he is disgusting) and how he depends so much on Kurose, even if vehemently hating being with him, is intriguing. So he has things going for him as a character. I actually wouldn't mind to read about these guys fucked up relationship if this were a stepping stone for shirotani to get a hold of himself. But alas, I know they'll be together for the rest of this manga. Because apparently non consensual sex=romance.
Me salen los corazoncitos por las orejas de lo monísimo y dulce que es Shurotani y muero por combustión espontánea de la hotez extrema de Kurose!!!! ¡¡AHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!! #KurotaniForever
I went on a binge and read volumes 2-5 all at once so I'm rating these 4 volumes as a whole. This series is very problematic. Shirotani is forced into doing things after saying "stop" or "no" on multiple occasions. While sure, maybe he eventually wanted Kurose to do things to him...it didn't start out that way. While this series has its issues, it's pretty fast paced and an easy read. I wanted to know what happened next, mainly because I hoped the storyline would change for the better...but so far, it has not.
I don't know. Here we get to learn the reason for Shirotani's sickness, and it makes sense, I suppose. However, I do feel like the story is just... weird? It has parts like the bit about Shirotani's past, which were good and felt serious, and then you have the disturbing sex stuff which feels like it's just there to be hot. I think my problem is that this doesn't feel well thought out and I do not get where she wants to go with is. Compared to a manga like "Saezuru", which has at least somewhat similar themes it doesn't measure up at all and is just weird and fucked up in.a bad way. I will continue reading these because I cannot help being curious how it all turns out, and maybe it all will be better when you read it in one go. Admittedly, I'm rather sceptical about that.
I've appreciated the backstory to Shirotani's OCD and germophobia and also the fact that finally, Kurose has come clean as to what are his intentions and motivations.
Excellent artwork again and the story took a turn for the best.
So, still heartbreaking. Extremely heartbreaking and I really wanna clock a certain character we see in this book. But I do love it since we get more background
Original review: 12/18 We finally, finally get the story on the main character and the cause of his germaphoia, and it was heartbreaking.
Un inicio de tomo intenso, unos capítulos que desvelan el pasado de Shirotani y un final que te deja con ganas de más. Cuando digo que esta historia es adictiva, es que realmente se podría leer los seis tomos de un tirón.
El cuarto tomo es una constante montaña rusa de emociones. Si bien al principio somos participes de una escena culmen, la cual ya nos habían adelantado en el tomo anterior, los siguientes capítulos marcan un antes y un después a la hora de comprender a Shirotani. Es verdad que me ha sorprendido muchísimo el desarrollo de su patología y el como de algo que parece insignificante puede desencadenar un grave problema, condicionando a la persona.
Esto último también está relacionado con que se ve de forma negativa que dos hombres se amen.
Prosiguiendo con la trama del tomo, me ha pillado con la guardia baja el momento en que Kurose confiesa el motivo por el cual se fijó en Shirotani. Es un cúmulo de giros de trama que me han mantenido enganchada desde el principio, ansiando llegar al final para saber en que termina. Y aun así, la autora ha vuelto a dejar la historia en un momento clave, provocando que quiera leer el siguiente tomo.
En general, ha sido un tomo que me ha mantenido enganchada por los continuos giros de trama, más enfocadas en el pasado de Shirotani, dejando parcialmente de lado la tensión y la excitación entre ambos. Pienso que el quinto tomo será parecido a este, pero centrado en la historia de Kurose.
This series is kindly suggested by my very incredibly patient work husband. I think I had this on my shelf for like...a year?
This started out *ahem* veeeeeery explicitly. If you wonder how naughty a smut scene can possibly be in comic format, this is a good example of that.
And then it got really bummery and left me with an incredibly confused downstairs.
Anyway.
This one starts out with a smut scene but the majority of it is a flashback to how Shirotani became a germophobe and it's very sad.
It left me feeling the same way I did in Check & Mate (I know, that's crazy, right?): This protagonist doesn't need a boyfriend, they need a therapist. And I know the love interest in this one is a therapist but this is also a really good example of why you shouldn't have a romantic relationship with your therapist.
It's difficult for me to enjoy this dynamic because the real life ethics of it gives me the ick.
FUCK THIS IS SO GOOD. I swear this is a psych nerd's wet dream.
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This volume gives us even more of Shirotani's past and what caused his trauma and it's so compelling. It makes you take another look at his mysophobia and whether or not that's even what it is! We find out a lot about Shirotani's perception of his father as a child and what a lot of people don't realize is that an Oedipus complex is much more common (and normal) than you'd think. But typically, it's something that a child will naturally grow out of as they mature. But if you add in sexual trauma at a very young age - that can severely convolute their development and cause some serious psychological harm.
I can literally feel in my soul that Kurose's backstory somehow aligns with Shirotani's in some twisted way and I can't frickin' wait. When he said he wants to make Shirotani as warped as he is - UGH. AMAZING. It's fucked up and I'm here for it.
Neste volume, a relação entre Shirotani e Kurose atinge novos níveis de intensidade e complexidade. As barreiras emocionais e psicológicas de Shirotani são exploradas mais profundamente, trazendo à tona traumas do passado que ainda afetam sua vida presente. A luta contínua de Shirotani para lidar com sua misofobia é retratada com uma sensibilidade que me fez sentir totalmente imerso em sua jornada. A dedicação de Kurose em ajudar Shirotani, mesmo quando confrontado com seus próprios desafios emocionais é tocante. Temos a relação entre eles sendo testada de novas maneiras, e os momentos de vulnerabilidade e intimidade incrivelmente tocantes. A evolução de Shirotani, à medida que ele começa a enfrentar seus medos e confiar mais em Kurose, é lindamente narrada e me deixou profundamente comovido.
Este tomo me dolió en el alma. Conocer el pasado de Shirotani y la raiz de su fobia fue algo que soporte a duras penas. Cada vez lo amo mas, por como quiere curarse y ser feliz... ❤ En este tomo Kurose no me gusto mucho :/
I find it interesting that Shirotani's past and the reason of his germophobia are finally revealed. The story really takes a new light. At first, the poor development of the characters was somehow disappointing, but this changes the feeling of the whole series, at least a little bit. I like that the intentions of Kurose are finally clear as well, talking openly about his fetish. Is the relationship a sane one? Of course not (it doesn't have to be and I can't see how the critics touch this subject), but I like that it becomes, little by little, more 'realistic' and interesting. At least, that's what I'm hoping for.
Each volume gives little information about their relationship, and it seems to give bits of it each time, changing what we previously thought of the story in some manner. At this point, knowing Shirotani's past, I would even believe Kurose isn't real at all. I know he is, but something is clear: Kurose is the manifestation and release of Shirotani's desires. Still, Kurose is a character we still don't understand, but I'm sure we will know more about him as the story unfolds. Either way, its purpose in the story seems more than just a random therapist that makes a germophobe forget his phobia just for the sake of love/lust. The desire of Shirotani for Kurose has a stronger explanation, and I like that. I am curious to see how everything unfolds.
This volume we finally know what caused Shirotani to have mysophobia. And to be honest, I would like to burn that b**** I mean how could a person do that to a kid? Shirotani thinks that he is disgusting because of what happened when he was kid. He never allowed others to touch him or his things. He never touched others or others things. Just because of that disgusting b**** ... UGH! Even though now it's clear what caused the phobia, Kurose has to know this too. But it's clear that Kurose loves him. But I don't get one thing... wasn't Kurose being selfish, to love someone who has mysophobia so that the person would touch Kurose only. It's like he is sure that Shirotani won't go away from him because he is the only one Shirotani can be comfortable touching to, all because Shirotani has mysophobia. I don't know, but I feel like that is a shitty reason to love someone, just because he is fragile and you wanna be the dominant and responsible one. However I kinda like them being together because Shirotani seems to be changing bit by bit and hopefully he will be able to tell Kurose the reason he feels disgusting of himself. The story is somehow getting more interesting. Next volume, you better not disappoint me!
We finally get the background and poor baby. I know the girl is super creepy and what she did is messed up. But wtf dad. She's a minor with a broken family I'm not gonna blame her for her stupid obsession. But wtf dad. He's such a piece of shit for being in this fucked up relationship, bringing her home where his son clearly dislikes it, and then pushing this whole agenda about her being his mom someday. Again. Shes a minor and his student. And instead of fucking around and having an affair with a minor you should be taking care of your little kid. Just the trauma this kid had to go through because of these two idiots I'm-
Also, clearly we ain't getting anything but sex therapy here at the hands of a sadist who just really thrives on pushing my buttons. Where is the healthy growth and healing I was promised??? My baby deserves so much better than being in a messed up super toxic relationship.
I must give credit where it is due - Rihito Takarai does understand how one traumatic moment can trigger a lifetime of self-abuse and recrimination. (That horrible girl...!) This volume essentially justifies the darkness of the story, and while it remains firmly in the "unhealthy relationship fetish" subgenre, it deserves credit for actually giving itself a reason to be there.
I’m absolutely LIVING for this series because of how messed up it is.
In this volume we finally learn why Shirotani is a germaphobe, and it’s so heartbreaking! 😭 Like, first of all his dad is gross. Why is he getting involved with a teenager? Second, why is this teenager so evil that she knows where Shirotani usually hides and purposefully has sex with Shirotani’s dad in that room? Like, kill her with fire, y’all 😭 That’s straight up evil.
So, yeah. Shirotani’s self-hatred is all because he masturbated while his dad was having sex because he listened to what other people told him to do when he felt something “down there” 😭 And then that viper of a teenager reinforced multiple times (for different reasons) that Shirotani is disgusting. She truly needs to die by fire 🔥
Anyway. Kurose in this volume finally gets upset and forces distance between himself and Shirotani because Shirotani called him disgusting again. Even though Shirotani thinks of himself as the truly disgusting one 😭
Regardless, Kurose is still on a power trip because he asks Shirotani to kiss his hand before he will help him (even though Shirotani is on the brink of a panic attack). Like, sir. There’s a time and place for power trips, and this isn’t one 😩
Sigo sin entender qué es lo lindo que la gente le ve a este manga, este tomo me resultó más interesante que el resto y por momentos un poquito más decente la relación entre los protagonistas, pero eso no hace que me olvide de lo que ya leí anteriormente. No me produce ternura, ni amor, ni ganas de shippearlos, ni creo que sean sanos el uno para el otro. No puedo apoyar algo cuando está claramente demostrado que no hay consentimiento y se me hace imposible pasarlo por alto a pesar de cualquier otra cosa. Definitivamente este tipo de historia no es para mí, y no puedo hacer más que rechazarla. Leeré el final solamente por curiosidad, pero dudo que mi opinión vaya a cambiar. Me gustó conocer finalmente la raíz de la fobia pero a la vez no me gustó la razón así que sigue siendo un tira y afloja. Me agradó haber conocido un poco el pasado del protagonista, que es algo que vengo preguntándome desde que empecé a leerlo. Pero en términos generales, esta historia no me gusta para nada.
Immer noch ein easy read, deswegen auch wieder wahnsinnig schnell weggelesen. Jedoch hält die Serie für mich einfach nicht, was sie am Anfang versprochen hat. Man versucht hier in diesem Band den Figuren erstmals eine Hintergrundgeschichte zu geben, die für mich zwar aufschlussreich war, jedoch bleiben mir die Protagonisten sehr fremd. Ebenso finde ich, dass man kaum Chemie zwischen den Charakteren spüren kann... weil sie eben kaum Persönlichkeit haben. Bei den expliziten Szenen fange ich langsam selbst an, mich zu ekeln, warum auch immer. Das ganze ist leider oberflächlicher, als ich gehofft habe und klar ist es Yaoi, aber durch viele begeisterte Rezensionen hatte ich eine höhere Erwartung. Naja, schade. Einen Band habe ich noch hier. Den werde ich lesen, aber vermutlich danach die Reihe abbrechen.
Lots of things are happening. The storyline is really starting to pick up. We are finally revealed Shirotoni's past that developed his Germophobia and OCD tendencies. I am not sure how to feel about it to be honest. Do I understand it yes, but it is definitely in the category of f*cked up and slightly weird. I do feel like out of all the manga's in the series, this one is the most dark and twisted.
We also get to see inside of Kurose's head more and I honestly enjoy that. Do I agree with his reasons and intentions...not really but unfortunately there are people in real life that think they same thing. At this point in time, I definitely see the Kurose and Shirotani's relationship on the more abusive side and maybe the author was trying to show this in a different light (doubtful) - I just don't know. Still, I loved the story line and the progress we are getting into the plot.