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Ο κόσμος είστε εσείς
Αν θέλετε, λοιπόν, χρησιμοποιήστε τον ομιλητή για να παρατηρήσετε τον εαυτό σας. Χρησιμοποιήστε τον ομιλητή σαν έναν καθρέφτη, δείτε μέσα του τον εαυτό σας χωρίς καμιά παραμόρφωση και απ’ αυτό μάθετε τι πραγματικά είστε. Εκείνο, λοιπόν, που είναι σημαντικό, είναι να μάθετε για τον εαυτό σας όχι σύμφωνα με κάποιον ειδικό, αλλά να μάθετε παρατηρώντας τον πραγματικά. Κι εκεί θα βρείτε ότι ο κόσμος είστε εσείς. Το μίσος, ο εθνικισμός, ο άνθρωπος των θρησκευτικών σχισμάτων, ο άνθρωπος που πιστεύει σε ορισμένα πράγματα και που δυσπιστεί απέναντι σε άλλα, ο άνθρωπος που φοβάται κτλ. είστε εσείς.
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First published August 12, 1972
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J. Krishnamurti
1,336 books4,268 followersJiddu Krishnamurti was born on 11 May 1895 in Madanapalle, a small town in south India. He and his brother were adopted in their youth by Dr Annie Besant, then president of the Theosophical Society. Dr Besant and others proclaimed that Krishnamurti was to be a world teacher whose coming the Theosophists had predicted. To prepare the world for this coming, a world-wide organization called the Order of the Star in the East was formed and the young Krishnamurti was made its head.
In 1929, however, Krishnamurti renounced the role that he was expected to play, dissolved the Order with its huge following, and returned all the money and property that had been donated for this work.
From then, for nearly sixty years until his death on 17 February 1986, he travelled throughout the world talking to large audiences and to individuals about the need for a radical change in humankind.
Krishnamurti is regarded globally as one of the greatest thinkers and religious teachers of all time. He did not expound any philosophy or religion, but rather talked of the things that concern all of us in our everyday lives, of the problems of living in modern society with its violence and corruption, of the individual's search for security and happiness, and the need for humankind to free itself from inner burdens of fear, anger, hurt, and sorrow. He explained with great precision the subtle workings of the human mind, and pointed to the need for bringing to our daily life a deeply meditative and spiritual quality.
Krishnamurti belonged to no religious organization, sect or country, nor did he subscribe to any school of political or ideological thought. On the contrary, he maintained that these are the very factors that divide human beings and bring about conflict and war. He reminded his listeners again and again that we are all human beings first and not Hindus, Muslims or Christians, that we are like the rest of humanity and are not different from one another. He asked that we tread lightly on this earth without destroying ourselves or the environment. He communicated to his listeners a deep sense of respect for nature. His teachings transcend belief systems, nationalistic sentiment and sectarianism. At the same time, they give new meaning and direction to humankind's search for truth. His teaching, besides being relevant to the modern age, is timeless and universal.
Krishnamurti spoke not as a guru but as a friend, and his talks and discussions are based not on tradition-based knowledge but on his own insights into the human mind and his vision of the sacred, so he always communicates a sense of freshness and directness although the essence of his message remained unchanged over the years. When he addressed large audiences, people felt that Krishnamurti was talking to each of them personally, addressing his or her particular problem. In his private interviews, he was a compassionate teacher, listening attentively to the man or woman who came to him in sorrow, and encouraging them to heal themselves through their own understanding. Religious scholars found that his words threw new light on traditional concepts. Krishnamurti took on the challenge of modern scientists and psychologists and went with them step by step, discussed their theories and sometimes enabled them to discern the limitations of those theories. Krishnamurti left a large body of literature in the form of public talks, writings, discussions with teachers and students, with scientists and religious figures, conversations with individuals, television and radio interviews, and letters. Many of these have been published as books, and audio and video recordings.
This author also writes under: Jiddu Krishnamurti
In 1929, however, Krishnamurti renounced the role that he was expected to play, dissolved the Order with its huge following, and returned all the money and property that had been donated for this work.
From then, for nearly sixty years until his death on 17 February 1986, he travelled throughout the world talking to large audiences and to individuals about the need for a radical change in humankind.
Krishnamurti is regarded globally as one of the greatest thinkers and religious teachers of all time. He did not expound any philosophy or religion, but rather talked of the things that concern all of us in our everyday lives, of the problems of living in modern society with its violence and corruption, of the individual's search for security and happiness, and the need for humankind to free itself from inner burdens of fear, anger, hurt, and sorrow. He explained with great precision the subtle workings of the human mind, and pointed to the need for bringing to our daily life a deeply meditative and spiritual quality.
Krishnamurti belonged to no religious organization, sect or country, nor did he subscribe to any school of political or ideological thought. On the contrary, he maintained that these are the very factors that divide human beings and bring about conflict and war. He reminded his listeners again and again that we are all human beings first and not Hindus, Muslims or Christians, that we are like the rest of humanity and are not different from one another. He asked that we tread lightly on this earth without destroying ourselves or the environment. He communicated to his listeners a deep sense of respect for nature. His teachings transcend belief systems, nationalistic sentiment and sectarianism. At the same time, they give new meaning and direction to humankind's search for truth. His teaching, besides being relevant to the modern age, is timeless and universal.
Krishnamurti spoke not as a guru but as a friend, and his talks and discussions are based not on tradition-based knowledge but on his own insights into the human mind and his vision of the sacred, so he always communicates a sense of freshness and directness although the essence of his message remained unchanged over the years. When he addressed large audiences, people felt that Krishnamurti was talking to each of them personally, addressing his or her particular problem. In his private interviews, he was a compassionate teacher, listening attentively to the man or woman who came to him in sorrow, and encouraging them to heal themselves through their own understanding. Religious scholars found that his words threw new light on traditional concepts. Krishnamurti took on the challenge of modern scientists and psychologists and went with them step by step, discussed their theories and sometimes enabled them to discern the limitations of those theories. Krishnamurti left a large body of literature in the form of public talks, writings, discussions with teachers and students, with scientists and religious figures, conversations with individuals, television and radio interviews, and letters. Many of these have been published as books, and audio and video recordings.
This author also writes under: Jiddu Krishnamurti
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August 30, 2024
Krishnaji thinks pointillistic thoughts - like the Impressionist painter Seurat. There is no connectivity in his thoughts or in his argument. These are sharp jabs of a seasoned pugilist, leaving us punch-drunk and stunned.
And the bottom line is You = The World.
Oh no! H.C. Earwicker - or 'Here Comes Everybody' - in Finnegans Wake! How do I, little me, COPE with the implications of that equation? You can’t.
Why not? Because our minds are already way too heavy-burdened.
Empty them, then, Krishnaji enjoins.
How?
Live the NOW!
Guess what? You can’t grasp the NOW, and that’s his point.
UNLESS you live it INTUITIVELY.
Live life only as you feel it.
Now, you have the empty-hearted sheer flow of impressions, like in a Seurat. If you turn off all your discursive mind, you will be able to go with the flow. Slowly.
NOT - ‘That’s a good point,’ or ‘Put That Frame on hold.’ For you can hold on to Nothing! You’re now living a flat dream.
Time slows to a crawl. Who KNEW it forgives the fact that you’re actually LIVING Now? In the PRESENT TENSE.
I mean, that’s Real.
***
So where do we find ourselves now?
Sad to say, we are now in the rough hands of a band of goons - the modern media giants - who have forced themselves into our happy/sad homes, bound us hand and foot...
And forced our minds into the narrow channels of strict behaviourism.
We can no longer be perfectly happy, as we once were in our blithely innocent youth!
All the doors have been marked No Exit.
But wait!
Krishnaji has broken through the door and is now holding the goons at steely gunpoint, while his assistant Common Sense rips down the No Exit signs.
Are we freed?
***
That, friends, is up to us.
If we previously thought we could innocently Drift thru life, we are now unburdened of those illusions.
Life is tough, and requires great strength.
For it contains both immense good - and horrendous Evil.
We have been shown the bare facts.
Now we must Roll Up Our Sleeves and WORK with them!
Right now.
***
In this book, Krishnaji never gets mysterious, magical or mystical.
(Constable Common Sense keeps him on his toes throughout!)
Trust them. They want to Friend you. They’re among the Good Guys.
And the argument of this book is nothing if not direct -
For they just want to Free Our Headspace from its usual Sad, Useless Logjam!
And if you WORK with them they WILL.
And the bottom line is You = The World.
Oh no! H.C. Earwicker - or 'Here Comes Everybody' - in Finnegans Wake! How do I, little me, COPE with the implications of that equation? You can’t.
Why not? Because our minds are already way too heavy-burdened.
Empty them, then, Krishnaji enjoins.
How?
Live the NOW!
Guess what? You can’t grasp the NOW, and that’s his point.
UNLESS you live it INTUITIVELY.
Live life only as you feel it.
Now, you have the empty-hearted sheer flow of impressions, like in a Seurat. If you turn off all your discursive mind, you will be able to go with the flow. Slowly.
NOT - ‘That’s a good point,’ or ‘Put That Frame on hold.’ For you can hold on to Nothing! You’re now living a flat dream.
Time slows to a crawl. Who KNEW it forgives the fact that you’re actually LIVING Now? In the PRESENT TENSE.
I mean, that’s Real.
***
So where do we find ourselves now?
Sad to say, we are now in the rough hands of a band of goons - the modern media giants - who have forced themselves into our happy/sad homes, bound us hand and foot...
And forced our minds into the narrow channels of strict behaviourism.
We can no longer be perfectly happy, as we once were in our blithely innocent youth!
All the doors have been marked No Exit.
But wait!
Krishnaji has broken through the door and is now holding the goons at steely gunpoint, while his assistant Common Sense rips down the No Exit signs.
Are we freed?
***
That, friends, is up to us.
If we previously thought we could innocently Drift thru life, we are now unburdened of those illusions.
Life is tough, and requires great strength.
For it contains both immense good - and horrendous Evil.
We have been shown the bare facts.
Now we must Roll Up Our Sleeves and WORK with them!
Right now.
***
In this book, Krishnaji never gets mysterious, magical or mystical.
(Constable Common Sense keeps him on his toes throughout!)
Trust them. They want to Friend you. They’re among the Good Guys.
And the argument of this book is nothing if not direct -
For they just want to Free Our Headspace from its usual Sad, Useless Logjam!
And if you WORK with them they WILL.
May 18, 2014
This was my first Krishnamurti book and I am giving it 5 stars because of how much at peace I had felt with my current state of being and my place in this world when I had finished the last page of this book.
Krishnamurtis's books are mostly set in dialogues as they are often transcribed from interviews and talks usually held at universities, tv shows and public spaces. Reading his work is like being part of the audience (minus the part where you get to ask him questions).
What I love most about this book is how Krishnamurti was aware of all the global problems during his era (which by the way, still exist in our time), and suggested that instead of looking for an external solution to these problems, we should perhaps look inwards into ourselves and to discover who we really are and why we behave and act the way we do to cause all the problems we currently face.
He discusses how we are products of our thoughts and experiences, and how we are able to view the people around us and our reality in a different manner when we learn to be unbiased in our thoughts.
I was surprised that Krishnamurti renounced all forms of faith and preferred to stick with logic and rationale when delivering his opinions. He also humbly encourages his listeners to be critical of his words and be part of the discussion rather than to simply agree with him.
I would suggest reading this book in one sitting to fully grasp his concepts and to thoroughly follow his explanations. This book is definitely a re-read to "keep things real" in the near future.
Krishnamurtis's books are mostly set in dialogues as they are often transcribed from interviews and talks usually held at universities, tv shows and public spaces. Reading his work is like being part of the audience (minus the part where you get to ask him questions).
What I love most about this book is how Krishnamurti was aware of all the global problems during his era (which by the way, still exist in our time), and suggested that instead of looking for an external solution to these problems, we should perhaps look inwards into ourselves and to discover who we really are and why we behave and act the way we do to cause all the problems we currently face.
He discusses how we are products of our thoughts and experiences, and how we are able to view the people around us and our reality in a different manner when we learn to be unbiased in our thoughts.
I was surprised that Krishnamurti renounced all forms of faith and preferred to stick with logic and rationale when delivering his opinions. He also humbly encourages his listeners to be critical of his words and be part of the discussion rather than to simply agree with him.
I would suggest reading this book in one sitting to fully grasp his concepts and to thoroughly follow his explanations. This book is definitely a re-read to "keep things real" in the near future.
September 27, 2015
As I recall, Professor Paul Schaick required we read one book, Talks & Dialogues, by Krishnamurti for his philosophy of religion class at Grinnell College. I was so impressed by the author that I went ahead and read this second transcript of his talks at Brandeis, Berkeley, Stanford and UCSC.
October 27, 2009
Big thinking.
The upshot ... its all up to me (or, in your case, you).
Leaves you with a lot of inner work to do.
Good stuff.
The upshot ... its all up to me (or, in your case, you).
Leaves you with a lot of inner work to do.
Good stuff.
December 7, 2023
#57 of 100 self help books
One of the best books I had ever read. This explains everything
One of the best books I had ever read. This explains everything
November 25, 2021
I like the simplicity of his talk, and smoothness of thoughts flow. Krishnamuri takes you in ‘You are the world’ to a very scary corners within yourself. It takes your hand gently, walks with you to the door of those corners and leave you there to enter those doors alone so you could see clearly a magnificent part -if it’s not parts- of yourself was unseen, unfolded, misunderstood and unloved your entire life.
In simple words, it would surprises you and leaves you amazed in wonder!
In simple words, it would surprises you and leaves you amazed in wonder!
May 19, 2009
I really liked his speeches and he made me feel better about not having to have to strive or set goals. We can just be.
February 20, 2012
Yes ...We are the World .....a good read for young minds .
March 13, 2022
his thoughts are nuanced but enlightening. I enjoyed this first Krishnamurti book!
July 26, 2020
Krishnamurti will stretch your mind like malleable clay. It's not certain if your mind goes back to where it was before this happens. If you really digest what he's saying (and it's not easy to do so in most cases) it will expand the way you think of yourself and the world around you. That's what all good books do and this is one of them; highly recommended.
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July 31, 2022
كتاب فلسفي لجِدّو كريشنامورتي يتضمن خلاصة ١٢ محاضرة في أربع جامعات أَمريكية.
أحيانًا أشعر بأن الحياة تُقام على الاختلاف. كوني أحب الاختلاف، أحب أناقش الجميع؛ لأن الجميع مختلف. هُناك لذة خاصة بالاختلاف؛ لذة تصاحب سماع وجهة نظر أو اعتقاد مختلف عنك ولكن أحيانًا يحدث بأننا نقضي أغلب وقتنا في سماع من مِن نفس البيئة، الدولة، الاعتقادات، إلخ. لدرجة نظن بأن البشرية لم يعد عندها شيء جديد تقدمه، نسأم - يمكن هذه جزء من حالة "نسيان الوجود" كما أطلق عليها هايدغر - و ننسى بأن الاختلاف لا نهاية له في عالمنا بالتالي لذة هذا العالم بتزايد.
قراءة هذا الكتاب تجربة مختلفة ومُمتعة جدًا! أول مرة أعرف المؤلف. كل شيء مختلف هُنا. قراءة كتاب يخالف اعتقاداتنا العامة فعل مُمتع ويختلف كثيرًا عن مناقشة شخص وجهًا لوجه، مناقشة الناس المختلفة ممتعة ولكن أحيانًا الطرف الآخر يسقط اسقاطاته الخاصة وصدماته ومشاكله علينا بالتالي الوعي وفهم الطرف الاخر سيكون عملية صعبة لأنها مليئة بتوقعات وأفكار… وهذا ما يجعل إيجاد الناس المناسبة للنقاش صعب لأننا أغلبنا غير واعي على انعدام وعيه. أَما قراءة كتاب يخالف اعتقاداتنا فلذة أخرى؛ الكتاب يُقرأ ويحث على المناقشة الداخلية والشك وإعادة اكتشاف الأشياء دون تحيز واسقاطات وأحكام إضافةً على الوقت الكافي لتأمل كل فصل وصفحة.
أحببت المفاهيم الجديدة لمصطلحات اعتدنا أو تبرمجنا على مفاهيم خاصة فيها كالحياة والحُب والموت والعقل المتدين والتأمل وإلخ. مفاهيم جديدة تحمس العقل لأفكار جديدة.
ناقش كريشنامورتي الكثير من الأشياء، أعارض بعضها، وأوافق على النصف الآخر.
سأشارك بعض التساؤلات التي ظهرت عندي خلال القراءة:
هل المقاومة تخلق الفصل والصراع؟ أم تُخلق بسببهم؟
هل فعلًا يختلف المراقب عن الكيان الذي يراقبه (أيّ نفسه)؟ وهل كوننا نضطر أن ننفصل ونراقب أنفسنا يعني يوجد صراع؟
إذا لم وستخدم الفكر كوسيلة للتعلم فماذا سنستعمل؟ هل نستطيع استعمال الحواس دون الفعل والفكر؟
ما هو الذكاء؟ وما هو الذكاء الحقيقي؟
هل لنا أن نفهم أي شيء دون المفاهيم القديمة أو الأولية للأشياء؟ هل نستطيع فهم أنفسنا دون الآخرين؟
هل للعقل حدود؟
كيف لنا أن نعرف الأشياء والشخوص على ما هُم عليه دون تدخل صورتنا ومفاهيمنا أو مشاعرنا وأفكارنا الخاصة عنهم؟
أيمكن أن نشاهد أي شيء دون تدخل مبادىء الألم والمتعة؟
هل التعلم نابع من التجارب والذكريات أم الحقائق أم الاثنان؟ وهل يمكن التعلم من مصدر واحد؟
هل يستطيع العقل أن يتحرر من صوره ومفاهيمه واسقاطاته؟
"الخوف يدمر الحرية."
"الحب ليس فكرًا ولا متعة."
الأفكار المطروحة:
"ما الذي سيحدث ثورة نفسية بشكل فوري وليس بشكل تدريجي؟ بالنسبةِ لي هذه هي القضية المهمة الوحيدة."
في كل محاضراته المذكورة في الكتاب يناقش كريشنامورتي قضية التغيير الفوري الداخلي بدل التدريجي. يسأل القارئ ما هو الشيء الذي سيدفعنا للتغيير؟ أهو الدافع أم المكافأة أو العقوبة؟ يربط هذا التساؤل بالوعي والأفكار؛ هل ممكن للأفكار حل مشاكلنا؟ هل ممكن لمراقبة أنفسنا تحثنا على التغير الفوري؟ ينتقل لمراقبة النفس ويتحدث عن المراقب (الشخص) والعنصر الذي يراقبه (شعور هذا الشخص، أفكاره، تصرفاته، إلخ) هل فعلًا المراقب والعنصر المُراقب يختلفان عن بعض؟ إذا نعم فَكيف؟! إذا المُراقب بالأصل لديه صورة وفكرة قديمة عن الشيء الذي يراقبه، فأين الاختلاف؟ هل ننظر للأشياء عبر معرفتنا وأفكارنا القديمة؟ وهل يستطيع العقل فصل هذه الصور عن نفسه ويتحرر ليرى الأشياء كما هي بشكلٍ بريء أم سيظل قديم؟
بالنسبة لكريشنامورتي فالفكر أداة قديمة. ولا يمكن للفكر أن يحررنا لأنه ما هو إلا آلة تنتج أفكار قديمة ليست لنا أصلًا. "إذا استخدمنا الزمن (والزمن هو الفكر) كأداة للتحرر من الخوف سنفشل. لا يمكن استخدام الفكر للخلاص من الخوف، الفكر هو مصدر الخوف." ليس فقط التحرر من الخوف، بل الحرية بأكملها لن تأتي من الفكر.
التأمل هو الوعي الحقيقي. ولها طريقته الخاصة. لابد من ممارسة التأمل بجدية وليس للهروب فبالنسبة لكريشنامورتي، أغلب تصرفاتنا وقرارتنا هي للهرب، الدين والمخدرات والسلطات والفلسفة…كل هذا لنهرب من الواقع.
وهذا يأخذنا لفكرة الحرية - أقوى فكرة بالكتاب :) - ما هي الحرية؟ الحرية أن نتحرر من كل الأشياء ومن كل السلطات: السياسية، الاجتماعية، الدينية، العائلية، النفسية، الفكرية، سلطة رغباتنا علينا، وحتى سلطتنا على أنفسنا. يعني، الحرية هي الفراغ، هي الصمت. الحرية بالنسبةِ له هي أن يكون العقل صامت ولكن ليس الصمت المخدر الذي ينبع من السلطة الذي يجعل العقل بليد وثقيل بل الصمت البريء الذي لا تشوبه تصورات وتوقعات ودوافع ولا أي شيء. مجرد صمت. أظن بأن الحرية تبدأ في الفراغ.
"النظر بدقة هو النظر من دون صور، دون أي رموز أو كلمات."
"إذا كان العقل متحررًا من الماضي، ومن التراكم النفسي للتجارب والمعارف. يمكنك أن تكون بريئًا. (…) العقل مريض ومعذب بسبب التجارب، وبالتالي لا يمكنه أبدًا أن بكون بريئًا أو نضرًا أو حيًا."
قد تبدو الأفكار المطروحة في الكتاب - عديدة ولم اذكرها كلها هُنا - غير مألوفة ولكن تضيف لدى القارئ ادراك واسع وجديد للنظر لهذه الثيمات كالحرية والتأمل والآخرين والنفس والسلطة والفكر والعقل.
أحيانًا أشعر بأن الحياة تُقام على الاختلاف. كوني أحب الاختلاف، أحب أناقش الجميع؛ لأن الجميع مختلف. هُناك لذة خاصة بالاختلاف؛ لذة تصاحب سماع وجهة نظر أو اعتقاد مختلف عنك ولكن أحيانًا يحدث بأننا نقضي أغلب وقتنا في سماع من مِن نفس البيئة، الدولة، الاعتقادات، إلخ. لدرجة نظن بأن البشرية لم يعد عندها شيء جديد تقدمه، نسأم - يمكن هذه جزء من حالة "نسيان الوجود" كما أطلق عليها هايدغر - و ننسى بأن الاختلاف لا نهاية له في عالمنا بالتالي لذة هذا العالم بتزايد.
قراءة هذا الكتاب تجربة مختلفة ومُمتعة جدًا! أول مرة أعرف المؤلف. كل شيء مختلف هُنا. قراءة كتاب يخالف اعتقاداتنا العامة فعل مُمتع ويختلف كثيرًا عن مناقشة شخص وجهًا لوجه، مناقشة الناس المختلفة ممتعة ولكن أحيانًا الطرف الآخر يسقط اسقاطاته الخاصة وصدماته ومشاكله علينا بالتالي الوعي وفهم الطرف الاخر سيكون عملية صعبة لأنها مليئة بتوقعات وأفكار… وهذا ما يجعل إيجاد الناس المناسبة للنقاش صعب لأننا أغلبنا غير واعي على انعدام وعيه. أَما قراءة كتاب يخالف اعتقاداتنا فلذة أخرى؛ الكتاب يُقرأ ويحث على المناقشة الداخلية والشك وإعادة اكتشاف الأشياء دون تحيز واسقاطات وأحكام إضافةً على الوقت الكافي لتأمل كل فصل وصفحة.
أحببت المفاهيم الجديدة لمصطلحات اعتدنا أو تبرمجنا على مفاهيم خاصة فيها كالحياة والحُب والموت والعقل المتدين والتأمل وإلخ. مفاهيم جديدة تحمس العقل لأفكار جديدة.
ناقش كريشنامورتي الكثير من الأشياء، أعارض بعضها، وأوافق على النصف الآخر.
سأشارك بعض التساؤلات التي ظهرت عندي خلال القراءة:
هل المقاومة تخلق الفصل والصراع؟ أم تُخلق بسببهم؟
هل فعلًا يختلف المراقب عن الكيان الذي يراقبه (أيّ نفسه)؟ وهل كوننا نضطر أن ننفصل ونراقب أنفسنا يعني يوجد صراع؟
إذا لم وستخدم الفكر كوسيلة للتعلم فماذا سنستعمل؟ هل نستطيع استعمال الحواس دون الفعل والفكر؟
ما هو الذكاء؟ وما هو الذكاء الحقيقي؟
هل لنا أن نفهم أي شيء دون المفاهيم القديمة أو الأولية للأشياء؟ هل نستطيع فهم أنفسنا دون الآخرين؟
هل للعقل حدود؟
كيف لنا أن نعرف الأشياء والشخوص على ما هُم عليه دون تدخل صورتنا ومفاهيمنا أو مشاعرنا وأفكارنا الخاصة عنهم؟
أيمكن أن نشاهد أي شيء دون تدخل مبادىء الألم والمتعة؟
هل التعلم نابع من التجارب والذكريات أم الحقائق أم الاثنان؟ وهل يمكن التعلم من مصدر واحد؟
هل يستطيع العقل أن يتحرر من صوره ومفاهيمه واسقاطاته؟
"الخوف يدمر الحرية."
"الحب ليس فكرًا ولا متعة."
الأفكار المطروحة:
"ما الذي سيحدث ثورة نفسية بشكل فوري وليس بشكل تدريجي؟ بالنسبةِ لي هذه هي القضية المهمة الوحيدة."
في كل محاضراته المذكورة في الكتاب يناقش كريشنامورتي قضية التغيير الفوري الداخلي بدل التدريجي. يسأل القارئ ما هو الشيء الذي سيدفعنا للتغيير؟ أهو الدافع أم المكافأة أو العقوبة؟ يربط هذا التساؤل بالوعي والأفكار؛ هل ممكن للأفكار حل مشاكلنا؟ هل ممكن لمراقبة أنفسنا تحثنا على التغير الفوري؟ ينتقل لمراقبة النفس ويتحدث عن المراقب (الشخص) والعنصر الذي يراقبه (شعور هذا الشخص، أفكاره، تصرفاته، إلخ) هل فعلًا المراقب والعنصر المُراقب يختلفان عن بعض؟ إذا نعم فَكيف؟! إذا المُراقب بالأصل لديه صورة وفكرة قديمة عن الشيء الذي يراقبه، فأين الاختلاف؟ هل ننظر للأشياء عبر معرفتنا وأفكارنا القديمة؟ وهل يستطيع العقل فصل هذه الصور عن نفسه ويتحرر ليرى الأشياء كما هي بشكلٍ بريء أم سيظل قديم؟
بالنسبة لكريشنامورتي فالفكر أداة قديمة. ولا يمكن للفكر أن يحررنا لأنه ما هو إلا آلة تنتج أفكار قديمة ليست لنا أصلًا. "إذا استخدمنا الزمن (والزمن هو الفكر) كأداة للتحرر من الخوف سنفشل. لا يمكن استخدام الفكر للخلاص من الخوف، الفكر هو مصدر الخوف." ليس فقط التحرر من الخوف، بل الحرية بأكملها لن تأتي من الفكر.
التأمل هو الوعي الحقيقي. ولها طريقته الخاصة. لابد من ممارسة التأمل بجدية وليس للهروب فبالنسبة لكريشنامورتي، أغلب تصرفاتنا وقرارتنا هي للهرب، الدين والمخدرات والسلطات والفلسفة…كل هذا لنهرب من الواقع.
وهذا يأخذنا لفكرة الحرية - أقوى فكرة بالكتاب :) - ما هي الحرية؟ الحرية أن نتحرر من كل الأشياء ومن كل السلطات: السياسية، الاجتماعية، الدينية، العائلية، النفسية، الفكرية، سلطة رغباتنا علينا، وحتى سلطتنا على أنفسنا. يعني، الحرية هي الفراغ، هي الصمت. الحرية بالنسبةِ له هي أن يكون العقل صامت ولكن ليس الصمت المخدر الذي ينبع من السلطة الذي يجعل العقل بليد وثقيل بل الصمت البريء الذي لا تشوبه تصورات وتوقعات ودوافع ولا أي شيء. مجرد صمت. أظن بأن الحرية تبدأ في الفراغ.
"النظر بدقة هو النظر من دون صور، دون أي رموز أو كلمات."
"إذا كان العقل متحررًا من الماضي، ومن التراكم النفسي للتجارب والمعارف. يمكنك أن تكون بريئًا. (…) العقل مريض ومعذب بسبب التجارب، وبالتالي لا يمكنه أبدًا أن بكون بريئًا أو نضرًا أو حيًا."
قد تبدو الأفكار المطروحة في الكتاب - عديدة ولم اذكرها كلها هُنا - غير مألوفة ولكن تضيف لدى القارئ ادراك واسع وجديد للنظر لهذه الثيمات كالحرية والتأمل والآخرين والنفس والسلطة والفكر والعقل.
May 20, 2017
这个男人太美，或者说，这个人类太美。这本书碎了我的三观，很难描述初次接触克氏时的阵痛和黑暗，从那以后这么多年总是断断续续读点他的东西…
March 28, 2023
Contents consist from public talks at different Universities - some of these public talks had been recorded in the 70s-80s, which are still open for watching in Youtube.
It is a very thought provoking book, I notice I had to keep my pace down alot for better understanding. I can definitely recommend this book, it's message is timeless. Not that many challenging words, so it's also good for people who are not native english speakers.
It is a very thought provoking book, I notice I had to keep my pace down alot for better understanding. I can definitely recommend this book, it's message is timeless. Not that many challenging words, so it's also good for people who are not native english speakers.
October 9, 2021
One of the best books I've ever read! Maybe the best!😲 What is thought, what is fear, anger, jelousy, pleasure, love, who am I really?.. If you really wanna find out answers for yourself - you must read this book! :)
October 16, 2012
A collection of some of his speeches in different universities. Was not a good choice unfortunately.
March 21, 2022
Living as meditation. What is.
October 28, 2018
The first book I read that exposed me to something inside of myself.
February 7, 2019
Classic JK! Depth and clarity conveyed through words.
September 14, 2024
TWELVE TALKS BY KRISHNAMURTI AT SEVERAL UNIVERSITIES
Jiddu Krishnamurti (1895-1986) was singled out by Charles W. Leadbeater, a leader of the Theosophical Society, as the coming "World Teacher"; and he was groomed for this role by Leadbeater and fellow TS head Annie Besant, who formed an organization, the Order of the Star, to support him in this role. However, in 1929 he famously rejected this role, and became an independent spiritual teacher for the rest of his life, writing many books such as 'Krishnamurti Reader: No. 1,' 'Commentaries on living: First series,' etc.
He asserts, "The inheritance from the past, with its Scriptures, its Savior, is no longer important. One is forced to stand alone, examining, exploring, questioning, doubting everything, so that one's own mind becomes clarified; so that it is no longer conditioned, perverted, tortured." (Pg. 12) Later, he says, "It seems to me that our responsibility is to understand ourselves first, because we ARE the world. This is not an egoistic, limited point of view..." (Pg. 31)
He argues, "Why should one clutter up one's brain, one's mind, with opinions, judgments, conclusions? They prevent clarity and that clarity is denied when the mind observes with a conclusion." (Pg. 41)
He observes, "The speaker is emphatic but don't be persuaded by him, for he has no authority at all. In this matter of finding out, there is no authority, there is no guru, there is no teacher. You are the teacher and the disciple yourself." (Pg. 74) He explains, "I'm not a philosopher, not a lecturer, nor am I representing some ancient philosophy from India---God forbid!" (Pg. 86)
About chanting a mantra, he states, "Obviously the repetition of a series of words... would produce a certain quietness in the mind, a certain quality in the repetitive word tending to make a mind, which is already dull, even duller." (Pg. 125-126)
He admits, "you don't have to read a single book. The speaker has not read a single book about any of these things: philosophy, psychology, sacred books. In oneself lies the whole world, and if you know how to look and learn, then the door is there and the key is in your hand. Nobody on earth can give you that key or the door to open, except yourself." (Pg. 135)
He adds, "The truly religious man, the man who really wants to find out what life is---not from books, not from religious entertainers, not from philosophers who only stimulate intellectually---such a man will have nothing whatever to do with drugs, because he knows full well that they distort the mind, making it incapable of finding out what truth is." (Pg. 141)
This book is an accessible view of Krishnamurti's ideas, presented for a mature audience.
Jiddu Krishnamurti (1895-1986) was singled out by Charles W. Leadbeater, a leader of the Theosophical Society, as the coming "World Teacher"; and he was groomed for this role by Leadbeater and fellow TS head Annie Besant, who formed an organization, the Order of the Star, to support him in this role. However, in 1929 he famously rejected this role, and became an independent spiritual teacher for the rest of his life, writing many books such as 'Krishnamurti Reader: No. 1,' 'Commentaries on living: First series,' etc.
He asserts, "The inheritance from the past, with its Scriptures, its Savior, is no longer important. One is forced to stand alone, examining, exploring, questioning, doubting everything, so that one's own mind becomes clarified; so that it is no longer conditioned, perverted, tortured." (Pg. 12) Later, he says, "It seems to me that our responsibility is to understand ourselves first, because we ARE the world. This is not an egoistic, limited point of view..." (Pg. 31)
He argues, "Why should one clutter up one's brain, one's mind, with opinions, judgments, conclusions? They prevent clarity and that clarity is denied when the mind observes with a conclusion." (Pg. 41)
He observes, "The speaker is emphatic but don't be persuaded by him, for he has no authority at all. In this matter of finding out, there is no authority, there is no guru, there is no teacher. You are the teacher and the disciple yourself." (Pg. 74) He explains, "I'm not a philosopher, not a lecturer, nor am I representing some ancient philosophy from India---God forbid!" (Pg. 86)
About chanting a mantra, he states, "Obviously the repetition of a series of words... would produce a certain quietness in the mind, a certain quality in the repetitive word tending to make a mind, which is already dull, even duller." (Pg. 125-126)
He admits, "you don't have to read a single book. The speaker has not read a single book about any of these things: philosophy, psychology, sacred books. In oneself lies the whole world, and if you know how to look and learn, then the door is there and the key is in your hand. Nobody on earth can give you that key or the door to open, except yourself." (Pg. 135)
He adds, "The truly religious man, the man who really wants to find out what life is---not from books, not from religious entertainers, not from philosophers who only stimulate intellectually---such a man will have nothing whatever to do with drugs, because he knows full well that they distort the mind, making it incapable of finding out what truth is." (Pg. 141)
This book is an accessible view of Krishnamurti's ideas, presented for a mature audience.
August 25, 2021
No review that I write will do this book justice; Krishnamurti is wonderfully patient and brilliant to the audience/his readers. Approaching this subject matter was rather intimidating, but well worth the grunt work and time spent contemplating. A great read for anyone looking to revolutionize the way they see the world! Love and meditation, babyyyyy
July 1, 2018
I spent about three months chewing over this book. I'm grateful to it.
July 19, 2021
Sehr sehr coole Gedanken
May 3, 2024
This book gave me brainfog for a week bc I was thinking so hard ab the way I was thinking . I am 100 times more confused than I was before
December 6, 2025
Outstanding. Very thought-provoking.
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