The breakout manga that put CLAMP on the map!At the dawn of creation, the world was a beautiful and tranquil place. Gods and humans lived peacefully together under the Heavenly Emperor's rule. But Taishakuten, a powerful warlord, rebelled against the King, and a violent, chaotic age began....Three hundred years later, Kuyou, the strongest warrior in the land, hears the prophetic words of a revered Six Stars will one day assemble and overthrow this bloody reign. Now, the quest begins to find the Six Stars and fulfill the prophecy before the heavens are torn apart!
CLAMP originally began in 1989 as a twelve-member dōjinshi circle, but by 1990, the circle had diminished from twelve to seven. Of the remaining seven, Tamayo Akiyama, Sei Nanao, and Leeza Sei left the group during the production of the RG Veda manga. Other former members of CLAMP also included Soushi Hishika, O-Kyon, Kazue Nakamori, Yuzuru Inoue and Shinya Ōmi. Currently, there are four members in the group.
In 2004, CLAMP's 15th anniversary as a mangaka group, the members changed their names from Nanase Ohkawa, Mokona Apapa, Mick Nekoi, and Satsuki Igarashi to Ageha Ohkawa, Mokona, Tsubaki Nekoi and Satsuki Igarashi (her name is pronounced the same, but written with different characters) respectively. The August 2004 issue of Newtype USA, a magazine specializing in events of the anime and manga subcultures, reported that the members of CLAMP simply wanted to try out new names. In a later interview with Ohkawa, it was revealed that initially Mokona wanted to drop her surname because it sounded too immature for her liking, while Nekoi disliked people commenting that her name was the same as Mick Jagger's. Ohkawa and Igarashi, wanting to go with the flow of Nekoi's and Mokona's name changes, changed their names as well.
In 2006, they made their first USA public debut at Anime Expo in Anaheim, California. They were well received at the convention, with 6,000 fans in attendance at their panel.
Interesante. Los dibujos me atraen mucho y como siempre Clamp tiene historias bastante originales aunque me faltaría un poco de explicación y contexto en algunas cosas.
No comprendo bien si la o el protagonista es hombre o mujer aún. No me modifica en nada la historia. Todos lo llaman el pero los dibujos me dan a entender otra cosa. En fin. Un detalle mínimo ya que si es hombre o mujer no modifica en nada la historia.
That CLAMP's roots in pretty boys, stretching the human body to extremes, destiny, prophecies and violating killing somewhat powerful but helpless women...goes back a long way.
Disappointing after all the hype. Half-baked plot, flat characters. I don't get a sense of connection with any character, I don't get a sense of why this guy was working for this person he hates or why he continues to harbour this kid who causes him misery, periodically goes all evil-possessed and is supposed to kill him--I can accept that it could happen, but give me a reason (even an emotional one!) of why the heck he would do any of this! There are a few prettily-drawn images, but you need more than that to be a good story.
Taishakuten has murdered the Heavenly Emperor and conquered his throne. The once peaceful kingdom falls into a long period of tyranny where rebellion against the new Heavenly Emperor means the destruction of whole tribes. The legendary Ashura tribe was the first to fall, yet the young Prince survived and prophecy has it that he will gather the six stars who will be the downfall of Taishakuten.
Although RG Veda isn't CLAMP's first work, it is their debut manga. It is loosely based on the Veda Hindu scripts, but as I am not very familiar with those, I really can't say how much freedom CLAMP allowed themselves with this one.
RG Veda is not an easy manga to get into, and definitely not one I would recommend to someone who is new to reading manga. It has a very slow start with a lot of information getting thrown at you. This also leads to a somewhat rocky flow of the story. That being said, once getting through the first volumes, it turns into an emotional and complex story.
There are many characters involved and even though the length of this series doesn't allow us to know all characters in great detail, it is still very easy to feel their pain. What little we know of them looks very real and as the story progresses, one can find that there are many grey characters - even the most villainous ones have their good sides and there are many surprising twists towards the end. There is certainly a lot of drama and suffering in this one, despite the occasional comic relief, you really might not want to start loving these characters too much, CLAMP started early with killing off their characters.
Also typical for CLAMP is the stunning artwork and ambiguous relationships between characters. Although several of the male characters are a little too bulky for my liking, there's not much left to be desired when it comes to the intricate clothing, backgrounds, hair, weapons and general page layout.
Although he is clearly named as Prince Ashura, our young hero is said to be genderless and has fooled several potential readers, myself included, into thinking him to be a female. I've never felt comfortable with people romanticising his relationship with the god of war Yasha - yes, the two of them are very close, but I can't see it as anything other than a father-son kind of bond. However, there are other queer characters along the way and some of them really come around with a twist that I don't think many people would see coming.
So despite the slow start, this is a wonderful tale of gods, humans, age-long wars and family and love. For all who struggle with getting into this, give it another chance, the second half may very well prove worthy of your time and surprise you in ways you did not see coming.
Le dessin a vieilli, l'histoire va à l'essentiel avec nos protagonistes (un enfant et un guerrier) qui vont accomplir une prophétie qui va soit "détruire le ciel".
Me ha gustado. La verdad, me ha sorprendido en muchos aspectos. El estilo de dibujo se ve mucho más maduro que en Sakura, un poco más cercano al de Tsubasa (o quizá sería mejor decir que Tsubasa se acerca a RG Veda). La historia es ciertamente de corte épico. Tiene todos los rasgos del género. Me ha sorprendido para bien y me ha enganchado.
Honestamente es una historia compleja y tienes que prestarle mucha atención, aunque la trama parece simple, está lleno de detalles.
No es un manga para leer de forma despreocupada, requiere de tiempo y dedicación para poder entenderle y no perder la pista.
Los personajes son increíbles y tienen muchísimo corazón, es imposible no encariñarte con los personajes: Ashura y Ryo son mis personajes favoritos y creo que Yasha sienta un predecente del hombre Gallardo.
Tenía expectativas altísimas de esta historia, y yo creo que eso me jugó en contra; lo que tiene es que va muuuyyy lento, aunque pasan muchas cosas, la trama avanza a pasitos de bebé y por momentos te desesperas... Ah! Pero llega el clímax y todo ocurre de golpe.
Tiene ese detalle que no me gusta en las historias, el prólogo es increíble, tortuoso, maravilloso y lento, pero el clímax y el final lo terminas en 3 capítulos.... Y faltó una especie de Epílogo, o una mejor trascendencia al final.
Aúnque no llegó a mi máximo, veo la calidad, los dibujos hermosos y todos los detalles y definitivamente es un manga muy MUY recomendable.
Definitivamente refleja el tiempo y el sello de Clamp.
It's not a CLAMP series until someone gets loses an eye. Or, in the case of RG Veda, until limbs are chopped, people get eaten by their significant other, and satan's spawn gives up its corporeal self as it regains humanity. As one of CLAMP's early work, the artwork gives you a glimpse towards what will later become known as CLAMP-esque pre-Chobits. My problem with the story is just the dumping of angst galore that doesn't contribute much to the story itself except to add to the gut-twisting effect a la Taishakuten's homicidal rampage.
There seem to be jumps in the story or the flow is just weird, but it made it very difficult for me to connect to the story and understand it, or the characters, I was confused the whole time while reading it, many things weren't explained properly and after reading i had so many questions and things i didn't understand. The story could have been interesting but with the lack of information and fast speed it just turned out to be very confusing.
I slogged through all ten volumes of this early CLAMP series solely to get backstory for Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicle, one of the current CLAMP series which I adore. I am not at all sure that it was worth it. Yay for free library copies?
Beautiful and bloody this epic fantasy, inspired by Indian mythology, drawn with a touch of the Graeco-Roman style tells the story of a once peaceful realm between the heavens and earth dominated by a tyrannical thunder king who’ll brook no opposition. Yet oppose him King Yasha will. Ordered to seek out and murder an old friend, that friend prophecies six stars destined to split the heavens. Guided by her words, Yasha seeks out a mysterious child, the lost heir of the Ashura clan. This deed has terrible consequences, forcing Yasha into the life of a fugitive along the child, pursued by Taishakuten, the Thunder King. What’s more, the child, Ashura, has a darkness within, a meacing alternate personality, quite different from the sweet, affection hungry youngling Ashura appears to be.
Four stories were contained in this volume. The first was about Yasha, his order to kill the Stargazer Kujou, the Yasha tribe, and the discovery of Ashura. We meet Kujaku, a friendly, charmismatic wanderer of ambiguous loyalties, who’s quite interested in Ashura and Yasha. We also catch a glimpse of the poised, yet discontented Lady Karura, whom like Yasha is not happy with the current rule of Taishakuten. We also see the ruthless Bishamonten in action, one of Taishakuten’s generals who does much of his dirty work. In the second story, Yasha and Ashura begin their quest to find the Six Stars, only to encounter Gigei, dancer for the Star Festival, held in honor of Kisshouten, daughter of the God King, a woman Taishakuten is determined to keep alive, even though he killed her father and stole her father’s throne. The third story hearkens back to the God King’s reign, when the Ashura tribe were his guardian warriors, showing a little of the tension between King Ashura (father of the child traveling with Yasha) and Taishakuten. We end with a tender scene between Ashura and Yasha, followed by an omake where CLAMP decides to have some fun parodying themselves.
This remains one of the most visually stunning if not the most manga, especially for character art I’ve ever seen, lending itself to the epic feel. It has Ashura, a main character of undefined gender whom at times is a cute, chubby cheeked child, at others an otherwordly youth of androgynous beauty. The main arc is a quest for the six stars and to defeat the thunder king, but the developing relationship between Ashura and Yasha is a close second, often driving the quest. This is only the first book and already the body count is high. Two likeable characters both die in this volume, setting Yasha and Ashura more firmly on their path while showing how ruthless their enemies are. Kujaku plays an intriguing part (as well as providing additional eye candy with his sheer beauty) as does the doomed star gazer. All of the characters are a pleasure to behold, offering some variety in Yasha, Karura, Ashura, King Ashura, Taishakuten, Gigei, Kujaku, Kujou, and Bishamonten. Many of these characters, including Ashura appear to have secrets, offering the reader hints of upcoming subplots, uncertainty as to where this epic is going for all that it has the air of a well known legend. For all of these qualities, I give this four stars.
Bueno bueno, hello there! Finalmente habemus comenzado a leer los mangas de CLAMP!!! ¿Quién lo diría?
Para empezar tengo que decir que el manga me gustó, si bien no es el primer manga/historia de CLAMP que conozco, es el debut, por eso lo quería leer primero que todo (teniendo en cuenta que CLAMP hace aparecer a sus personajes en todos sus malditos mangas...).
Al principio, lo empecé a leer y le tenía miedo ajajjaja me parecía que era un poco difícil de entender lo que estaba pasando y tiene tantos personajes que cuesta un poco aprender los nombres (tampoco son nombres muy fáciles que digamos). También me pareció que la trama avanzaba muy rápido y la verdad, pensé que iba a ser un manga peor. A medida que lo fui leyendo, me entretenía y me daban ganas de saber que iba a pasar. El final fue un poco decepcionante porque se mueren TODOS los personajes, menos los protagonistas. De todas formas queda un poco colgado, porque no te muestran que pasa con los otros clanes o como sigue el mundo después de eso. Ni hablar el hecho de que Ashura literalmente mató a Ryu y no le importo nada jajajajajja
Los personajes estuvieron buenos y el arte de CLAMP es inigualable. Muchas de las muertes no me las esperaba y también me pareció como que fueron super violentas, cosa no necesariamente negativa, me gustó.
Para ser el primer manga de CLAMP, me parece perfecto, porque es lit lo que me voy a encontrar en todo este gran camino llamado "masoquismo CLAMP" jajajajajajja No se si lo volvería a leer en el futuro, probablemente no, pero me da intriga en saber si los personajes van a aparecer en otras historias.
Como conclusión, me gustó pero no me pareció un tremendo manga. Todavía me quedan ver las OVAs. De todas maneras, le tengo mucha fe a CLAMP y estoy con muchas ansias de seguir leyendo sus obras <3 <3 <3
Ce l'avevo da parecchio ma non ero mai riuscita a leggerlo. Adesso, complice un'offerta molto conveniente su EBay, mi son decisa a cominciarlo e ho recuperato tutta la serie.
La storia è un po' strana, ma il personaggio principale mi sta simpatico. Certo, non capisco perché si porti dietro un ragazzino destinato a ucciderlo che ogni tanto dà di matto e si trasforma in una macchina distruttrice. Insomma, il povero Yasha ha perso tutto a causa di Ashura e nonostante tutto si mettono in viaggio insieme.
Alcune recensioni dicono che le CLAMP hanno preso personaggi e figure della tradizione hinduista e buddhista e le hanno talmente travolte da non lasciare quasi nulla dell'originale. Non posso esprimermi, visto che quello che so di buddhismo e hinduismo è proprio poco.
Perà questa è pur sempre l'opera delle CLAMP ed erano anni che volevo leggerla.
Tra un paio di giorni dovrebbe arrivare il mio ordine e continuerò la lettura.
Me pareció una historia increíble para ser la primera lo publicada por las autoras. CLAMP nos presenta una aventura que sigue a Ashura, un personaje que es guiado por las profecías que hicieron de elle, y que ve su destino marcado por el capricho de las deidades, y de su propia naturaleza. En esta historia hay muchos personajes, cada unx con su historia personal, lo cual me hizo recordar las grandes epopeyas griegas. Se me hizo muy entretenido lo enrevesado de la historia, y me encantó que le protagonista no tuviera género definido, fue una gran incógnita durante la lectura pero me amigué bastante con su aspecto andrógino.
La parte visual me parece BELLÍSIMA. Es increíble la cantidad de detalles que hay por página y lo hermosa que es la estética. Aaaaunque, a veces era mucha información en un espacio bastante reducido.
3.5 - lore heavy, fast paced, and full of beautiful people
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tbh i love the trope "strong warrior man adopts child" (the contrast is so endearing to me) and this is exactly that... except theres SO MUCH lore. i honestly still cant believe that we went through THAT MUCH plot in ONE chapter...
the art is so quintessential clamp. highly detailed and an emphasis on the maximum, all the important characters are very beautiful, and the overall other-worldly atmosphere of it all
overall, has a ton of potential and if i see the next volume ill be sure to pick it up
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No lo odiè pero tampoco ha planteado un enigma o imposibilidad de soluciòn en la historia... por ahora.
Sì se notan varios elementos recurrentes de Clampo, que màs bien serìa la primera vez que aparecen aquì. Lo yaoi, la espada, la guerra y el fin del mundo, los dragones y todas esas cosas. Que tambièn dirìa hay una influencia mìtica y fantàstica como las historias de Dragonlance.
Los dibujos se notan muy 80/90, pero estàn padres. Me gusta el diseño, sin que se me hagan sexys o sexualizados. A ver què ofrece despuès la historia.
I absolutely loved this entire series. It took a bit of time to sort out the characters, because there are quite a few of them. But once I did, I really, really liked this. It basically reads like an RPG, which I'm biased towards. I didn't expect to enjoy this series so much. I'm so glad. There are a lot of really good characters. It's also way more violent than I expected it to be. I am just very surprised, and very glad that I have finally read this.
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Brilliant art with an utterly mixed up jumble of characters. The characters don’t vaguely resemble their Hindu or Buddhist counterparts and often have the exact opposite nature. A misrepresentation of Japanese and Indian mythology whose most redeeming quality is over 600 pages of excellent drawing.
Suitably epic artwork from CLAMP (pay close attention to the hairstyles to avoid confusion), but without more cultural context, it is difficult to really understand the significance of anything going on.
So nostalgic. Cuma aku bingung, segitu pinginnya Yasha-ou mengakhiri rezimnya Taishaku-ten sampai dia chill aja membesarkan anak yang menurut ramalan bakal membunuhnya? Huwah!
RG Veda is CLAMP’s first work. Back then there were more than four in the team and their style was not that developed, so the overall feeling is somewhat different from the norm. But it still is about ambiguous bishounens in a very dramatic and violent setting.
The story is loosely based on the Hindu Vedas, the oldest epic story in human history, and it is about the battle amongst the Gods over a prophesy foretelling the splitting of Heaven by the coming of six stars. Although there are many attempts at drama, much of the story will feel contrived or even forced, since everything are following a prophesy and such. Free will is hard to find this way. Even when the characters seem to act against their fate, you still feel they are working for it. So having a foretold event telling you what to do, well, ruins a big part of the character charm. But even beyond that, the story is rather simple to begin with. It’s always about the team going to place, witnessing a massacre, someone swearing to take revenge, fighting some mook soldiers, and listening to the prophesy being repeated again and again. It repeats 6 times, one for each star or team member, and then we go to the final showdown. It is not terribly simple but it does repeat in a formulaic way and only the ending is where you get a twist of sorts. Otherwise, it is a rather simple and straight forward scenario.
The characters are, in the usual CLAMP legacy, the meat of the story. Their stories are rather far fetched and somewhat similar (the evil king killed or threatened their tribes, so they join to fight him). Yet their personalities are enjoyable, without ever becoming original or deep or something. The main duo is of course the one getting all the attention, both for being in the epicenter of the prophesy, as well as being … um … homo. Yes, that stuff fujoshi love are present too. Ashura is a hermaphrodite kid, glued to the arms of the hunk of a man that is Yasha. And the rest is history. Ok, I could add the evil king as being a somewhat tragic figure, cursed by fate. All the rest are just extras that don’t really add anything to the story as much as they do in coloring the world and the main duo. Likable but as I said, extras.
The artwork is superb! So majestic and fantasy-heavy you drool over the big panels (as if the homo attention was not enough). This is by far the most detailed and thought-through CLAMP work (besides being their first) and as such it is a step before perfect. Well, the battles kinda suck you see…
In all, it is a very good manga in terms of artwork and atmosphere, while the main characters are very interesting if you dig tragic gayness. Otherwise, it is also repetitive in terms of plot, which moves in a prearranged linear path, so don’t expect too much here.
I read this manga years ago but for some reason I didn't really get the story, so I abandoned the series. But since I'm a huge fan of CLAMP's Tsubasa Reservoir chronicle which contains so many characters from RG Veda, I decided to give that series a second chance. I've forgotten why I ever thought this series was complicated; the story is easy enough for a fantasy work:
a) there is a bad guy b) there is a prophecy which states that you (or, in this case, the hero of the story, Yasha-ou, a former subordinate of the bad guy) have to gather six chosen people to defeat said bad guy c) because the bad guy has influence, the hero is constantly on the run
Well, there are a lot of additions to this basic plot and don't be fooled, I really like this manga. There's action, there's bloodshed, there's a 300 old boy who looks like he's seven and who is considered bad luck, there is a huge amount of exposed men-chest and Yasha-ou's sword hilt looks so phallic it's not even funny anymore. I LIED! IT'S HILARIOUS!
And I snickered when I saw Ashura-ou's pointy ears because I didn't expect that. (His alter ego of Celes has perfectly normal ears. But then again he's little Ashura's Daddy, so it makes sense.)
Altogether very enjoyable! This was my first time reading anything by CLAMP, and I probably will continue to do so.
The story begins with Yasha, leader of the Yasha clan, being sent out into the woods by a seer to find a child of a long-dead tribe. The prophecy states that "six stars" will gather around the boy, and that they will bring about the destruction of the God King, the tyrant of this world. After finding the child and receiving an ominous warning, Yasha and the child, Ashura, return to the Yasha clan. But because the king of the tribe is taking care of Ashura, the Yasha clan is attacked by the soldiers of the God King and destroyed. Now, without a place to go, Yasha and Ashura begin to wander the nation to find the Six Stars and seek vengeance on the God King.
While the beginning is pretty slow, it gets really good really fast, and I found myself reading while eating, doing laundry, and walking down sets of stairs. That might just be me, but I know I really loved this book!